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    38 Studios was a Rhode Island-based developer/publisher, founded by Red Sox pitcher Curt Schilling.

    Report: 38 Studios Lays Off Entire Staff [UPDATED]

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    No! Majorly sad day.

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    #202  Edited By MordeaniisChaos

    And this is why you don't stake a company's well being on what looks on all accounts to be an extremely traditional MMO.

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    @Jeff said:

    @Milkman said:

    Wow, that's a stone cold e-mail. Not even a "sorry" or a "unfortunately."

    That's probably for legal reasons. Apologizing when terminating someone can potentially open you up to a wrongful termination suit.

    Yeah, but a "thank you for your hard work" wouldn't.

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    #204  Edited By FuzzYLemoN

    THIS NEVER WOULD HAVE HAPPENED IF THEY WOULD HAVE JUST MADE RISE OF NATIONS 2. >:(

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    #205  Edited By AllanIceman

    F me! Someone give Rich a job.

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    #206  Edited By WiqidBritt

    so, how weird would it be if they did put out their MMO, but because of the taxpayer loan from the state, every tax paying citizen in Rhode Island owned a part of the game, like how people in Green Bay own the Packers?

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    #207  Edited By RoyCampbell
    @SkullcrusherMountain said:

    @DjCmeP said:

    @Liquid_Flood said:

    Dear Giant Bomb,

    HIRE RICH GALLUP YESTERDAY. OR TODAY.

    Sincerely,

    A paying member

    You people are really really gross.
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    #208  Edited By kagato

    @SkullcrusherMountain said:

    @DjCmeP said:

    @Liquid_Flood said:

    Dear Giant Bomb,

    HIRE RICH GALLUP YESTERDAY. OR TODAY.

    Sincerely,

    A paying member

    Has anyone heard anything from Rich? I hope he either hasnt been effected or at least has something else lined up, always liked him at Gamespot and at the E3 Giantbomb events.

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    #209  Edited By CornishRocker

    I hope all those laid off land on their feet, this is a shitty situation. CBS, get hold of Rich Gallup already.

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    #210  Edited By PolyesterPimp

    This is sad. I've been laid off before but to not have been paid since the beginning of May only to be let go... This is definitely sad.

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    #211  Edited By ShadyPinesSteve

    I can see why they can't secure additional funding. If you had cash to invest, would you put it into an MMO that's, let's be real here, destined to fail miserably? And that's not a comment on the quality of Copernicus at all. None of us knows how good that game is/was going to be. But it's becoming increasingly clear, at least to me, that the $15 per month MMO model is going by the wayside quickly. There aren't enough people interested in MMOs to keep more than a handful going and viable at that price. Look at something like The Old Republic which has huge money and one of the biggest IPs on the planet behind it. That's doing nicely at somewhere around 1.2 million subscribers after about six months on the market. Does a fledgling IP like Amalur even stand a chance? I don't think so and apparently neither do investors.

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    #212  Edited By chw

    That's too bad. How many employees worked at 38 Studios?

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    #213  Edited By Azteck

    Been watching the live stream of the press conference and the governor just said "If I had any say in the matter, none of these games would have all this violence and sexism in them". Fuck that shit.

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    #214  Edited By ktotheman

    RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICH!!!!!!!!!!!! Hope he and Ben make it out okay!

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    #215  Edited By Dallas_Raines

    Reckoning needed to sell 3 million just to break even, apparently.

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    #216  Edited By leejunfan83

    They had to sell 3 mil of KOA to break even

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    #217  Edited By fisk0  Moderator

    @seannao said:

    Is there any truth to the rumor that Valve is directly hiring, skipping the normal application process, for some of the artists from 38 Studios?

    Probably true, looking at the Twitters, it looks like several studios are extending a hand to 38 Studios. Microsoft Studios, Double Fine, Insomniac, Irrational Games, Red 5 and Perfect World have all posted that they're hiring ex-38 employees. Check the hashtag #38jobs and http://twitter.com/#!/search/38%20studios%20hiringand you'll see they've got plenty of job offers already, it's likely Valve do the same, but maybe not in such an public manner.

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    #218  Edited By fargofallout

    @bcjohnnie Oh yeah, good call. Silly question.

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    #219  Edited By Dallas_Raines

    Oh god, asshole reporter is (unknowingly?) acting like a total asshole on camera.

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    #220  Edited By HonchoGrande

    Does any DLC revenue purchased at this point go to the state?

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    #221  Edited By JazzyJeff

    @Azteck: I head him say the game needed to sell 3 million units just to break even. They really took a gamble on Reckoning, if that's true.

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    #222  Edited By ShadyPinesSteve

    @Azteck: Seriously. I'm sure he's never indulged in any media that has sex and violence in it. What a moronic thing to say.

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    #223  Edited By bigsmoke77

    The RI Governor was just asked what they could have done differently on there side and he said nothing, and then said "I wouldn't have had all of this violence and ... sex in these games"

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    #224  Edited By Dallas_Raines

    @MSUSteve said:

    @Azteck: Seriously. I'm sure he's never indulged in any media that has sex and violence in it. What a moronic thing to say.

    The guy's a Rhode Island politician, you know he's into some shady ass shit.

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    #225  Edited By dvorak

    This was obviously coming down the pipe just based on how the loan payment was made with what was supposed to be their wages. Don't have to pay employees you don't have!

    Now just to hear about the employee's perspective. I'm sure plenty will want to talk, and since 38 won't exactly be having exit interviews, or severance packages, they'll probably tell all. I really have to wonder what the greater fallout of this whole situation will be though, apart from 38. I feel bad for the guys who moved to RI and thought that this would be longer term employment.

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    #226  Edited By SomeJerk

    A need to sell three mill to not crash and burn the entire company.. 
    ..they spent how long and how much before KoA came out? :/

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    #227  Edited By Gizmo

    My reaction;

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    #228  Edited By I_Stay_Puft

    So does this mean that support for KOA: Reckoning has stopped as well in terms of any expansions or updates? Great game and sad news about the layoffs.

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    #229  Edited By fisk0  Moderator

    @Dallas_Raines said:

    Reckoning needed to sell 3 million just to break even, apparently.

    @leejunfan83 said:

    They had to sell 3 mil of KOA to break even

    @JazzyJeff said:

    @Azteck: I head him say the game needed to sell 3 million units just to break even. They really took a gamble on Reckoning, if that's true.

    Didn't they sell around 1.3 million or so? If so, barely halfway to the break even point.

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    #230  Edited By PixelPrinny

    That's a bummer. Best wishes to all those involved.

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    #231  Edited By sinan_617

    They aren't rookies; they'll either bounce back or decide to call it quits. as far as the rest... well, unfortunately too many studios buckled, if not outright collapsed, in recent times. Not a good time to go looking for a job in the field.

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    #232  Edited By dvorak

    @bigsmoke77: It was obviously a dumb shit thing to say, but I'm pretty sure he was just at a loss for words at the moment and just randomly spurted that out. I mean that's barely even a complete thought.

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    #233  Edited By jeanluc  Staff

    Remember when selling 1 million copies was considered a huge success? Now you have to sell at least that to not be a failure.

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    #234  Edited By Slow_pC

    its a sad sad day today.....

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    #235  Edited By Zealousadonis

    The game failed seems kind of harsh, I think they where just expecting too much out of a new IP. But he's not really talking as someone who knows how game sales tend to go so much as he is a politician that has to tell people they lost a bunch of tax payer money.

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    #236  Edited By DeF

    Whoa that shit is seriously fucked up.

    Sorry for all those folks caught in the crossfire. Hope they all find new jobs quickly!

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    #237  Edited By Terranova

    @fisk0 said:

    @seannao said:

    Is there any truth to the rumor that Valve is directly hiring, skipping the normal application process, for some of the artists from 38 Studios?

    Probably true, looking at the Twitters, it looks like several studios are extending a hand to 38 Studios. Microsoft Studios, Double Fine, Insomniac, Irrational Games, Red 5 and Perfect World have all posted that they're hiring ex-38 employees. Check the hashtag #38jobs and http://twitter.com/#!/search/38%20studios%20hiringand you'll see they've got plenty of job offers already, it's likely Valve do the same, but maybe not in such an public manner.

    I'm not surprised that Perfect world is offering they are one of the top western free to play MMO companies out there now and the game world Vid that 38 studios put out did look rather nice.

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    #238  Edited By DukesT3

    @Paul_Tillich said:

    I live in Boston. All media, including sports, are slamming Schilling. That is one sign that lets yo know things are BAD.

    No bloody sock can save this morons ass.

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    #239  Edited By MrMazz

    Well that sucks hopefully the employees land on their feet.

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    #240  Edited By Maluvin

    So just how insane of a goal was selling 3 million within this timeframe for KoA: R? I mean we're talking about a new studio and new IP.

    Guess it depends on how they internally handled their budget.

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    #241  Edited By Jayross

    So much for economic development, eh Rhode Island?

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    #242  Edited By D_Man_Taylor

    Holy shit. That sucks. There were a lot of talented people working there (Mr. Gallup included). I wish them all the best.

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    #243  Edited By Jensonb

    Three million. Three million copies. Are you...Are you fucking KIDDING ME WITH THIS!? Kid gloves are off, what kind of morons were running this thing!? Six years and barely so much as a teaser trailer of your huge money sink project and you bet the farm on selling three million copies of your smaller game from the unknown IP? What kind of idiot runs a startup this way? They were acting like they were freaking Bungie or Blizzard or some noise! Freaking Respawn Entertainment wouldn't get away with having the BALLS of the idiots running 38. Now I'm super pissed. So many talented people working in that company got totally screwed by their ineptitude. So not okay.

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    #244  Edited By thatfrood

    @FuzzYLemoN said:

    THIS NEVER WOULD HAVE HAPPENED IF THEY WOULD HAVE JUST MADE RISE OF NATIONS 2. >:(

    <3

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    38 Studios management can only be described as stunningly incompetent. And thanks for taking Big Huge Games down with you, dicks.

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    #246  Edited By Jeust

    "38 Studios founder Curt Schillingannounced on Twitter yesterday that Reckoning sold 1.2 million copies. Chafee said the game needed to sell closer to three million."

    Selling three millions?! Crazy prediction! Many great games don't sell much more than one million, and they needed to sell three.

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    It's amazing that selling one million copies of a $60 game is considered "poor" today.

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    #248  Edited By beepmachine

    "economic downturn"? Talk about soft language. This whole situation is just greasy.

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    #249  Edited By Zamir

    so is The Hotspot, Time Trotters and Button Mashing coming back now?

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    #250  Edited By sagebirt

    Kickstarter!!!!

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