Activision Axes Franchises, Reveals Studios In Earnings Call

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#101 Posted by kalmis (1558 posts) -

More Spiderman and Transformers games. Awesome.

#102 Posted by Dethfish (3627 posts) -

It was only a matter of time before they stopped with GH. How many more CoDs do they have in them before that franchise needs to "take a break" too? I'm guessing 3 to 4 if they don't change it up soon, and adding a subscription service is not the change I'm looking for.

#103 Edited by djaoni (339 posts) -
@Cyborgmatt said:

" @Bucketdeth: Blizzard are just as greedy as Activision, they go hand in hand tbh. "

Yeah, definitely. 
 
Blizzard milked the Warcraft, Starcraft and Diablo franchises to death with their yearly sequels and almost monthly overpriced DLC before partnering up with Activision. 
 
I mean the fact that we're waiting for Diablo 12 after just 3 months since the last Diablo should be telling.
#104 Posted by themangalist (1718 posts) -

 nononoNONONONONO....
 
F.U.C.K. Kotick. I mean it whole heartedly. FUCK YOU, KOTICK, FUCK YOU.
 I don't think i ever expect it to be jaw-droppingly good, but just so you know, True Crime: HK is the game I've been waiting for half my life. 
 
I've been living in HK almost all my life, and after my first exposure to GTA, i was always hoping there was an open-world game based in that exciting city. Screw New York, there's already too much games based there, and I personally don't even know what it is like; True Crime was probably the first ever game to actually base a game on something completely different, a game based on something I am actually very familiar with. The first I heard of the game I was disappointed it won't feature the real-life streets, but whatever, as long as I can recognize landmarks and get the hang of the style of the different districts, I'm all cool.
 
True Crime always looked sort of janky in the trailers, but it did look promising. I'm sure there are plenty people who actually look forward to playing somethign completely different. But NO, Kotick, you douche.
 
Seriously, Kotick, as a giant in the gaming industry, have you no shame and guilt? Don't you feel that you have the responsibility to promote different titles and smaller studios, and hope to get a loyal fanbase for that? It's not like ACTIVISION can't fucking support the game development of smaller studios with big ambitions, and not taking the slightest financial risk at all... 
 
Money money money. Call of Duty my ass!!! >:(

#105 Posted by Scapegoat (131 posts) -
@JJWeatherman said:
" Thank god Tony Hawk is taking a break too. Activision may be getting smarter after all! "
Let's be honest, Activision aren't stupid. Many of their decisions may seem stupid and insulting to us, a specific population, but in the sense of they are business out to make as much money as possible, they're golden.
#106 Posted by JJWeatherman (14557 posts) -
@Scapegoat said:
" @JJWeatherman said:
" Thank god Tony Hawk is taking a break too. Activision may be getting smarter after all! "
Let's be honest, Activision aren't stupid. Many of their decisions may seem stupid and insulting to us, a specific population, but in the sense of they are business out to make as much money as possible, they're golden. "
Golden is a bit of an exaggeration, but I get what you're saying. I just think pissing off the audience that they've pissed off is probably a bad idea in the long run.
#107 Posted by AgentofChaos (1565 posts) -
#108 Posted by sate2801 (344 posts) -

let's see...
 
" bring online experiences and console play together for the first time"
 
dude, he missed out all those PSN and XBL thingie or he just don't know wtf he's talking about?

#109 Edited by Santadestroy (19 posts) -

While I'm glad to see Guitar Hero finally put down, I am really sad that the DJ Hero series died along with it. That series still had some life left in it for a great third game, but now that'll never happen. All that's left is Call of Duty and Prototype and I don't see either franchise lasting for much longer. I'm indifferent on True Crime: Hong Kong, but I sympathize with those who were looking forward to it. At this point, the only Activision game I'm looking forward to now is War for Cybertron 2...until that gets cancelled.

#110 Posted by Eribuster (483 posts) -

I really wanted to play True Crime. I should have expected this since it has been so long since we heard anything about it.

#111 Posted by RsistncE (4496 posts) -

Without CoD or Blizzard, Activision would tank overnight. Look at the shitacular games they have lined up. A Family Guy game? Is this real life?. On top of that they cancel True Crime: Hong Kong, arguably the only good game in their entire stable of releases. I now herald thee, Craptivision.

#112 Posted by Hailinel (23915 posts) -

Show of hands, who among us, for all the crap we're slinging at Activision for becoming what amounts to "Call of Duty-R-Us," will still be buying the next Call of Duty game when it comes out?  I've never had interest in playing a Call of Duty game, and now I have less interest in Activision products in general, given that any releases I might have had interested in are no longer coming.

#113 Posted by Example1013 (4834 posts) -
@sate2801: There are a bunch of ways you could interpret it. For instance, he could be talking about subscriptions. 
 
Then again, this could be some sort of online integration. Maybe even social networking. Something similar to the Speedwall, or possibly something even more comprehensive (integrated website similar to rockband.com or steam). 
 
The subscription thing could be a bit different as well, even if it were to be implemented. For instance, they might start putting out, say, quarterly map packs, and you buy a subscription that pays it off either before or during release automatically, so that you can just hop online and download the pack. Sort of like pre-ordering, but for DLC. 
 
Hell, they could even be talking about some sort of integrated, in-game (or out-of-game) toolset for map-making (similar to SCII), or possibly straight-up modding (similar to DA:O). I'd be all for a comprehensive SDK because it'd allow for a wider range of gameplay (more realistic damage and shooting, or more arcadey, a wider selection, brand new textures and levels, and possibly even game modes, etc.) 
 
This could also involve DRM or anti-cheat, one of which would probably be well-received at this point. 
 
Activision may also be thinking about some sort of online-only CoD, perhaps with an even more robust and fully-featured multiplayer than the current sytem (some sort of "global" thing would be interesting). 
 
We'll have to wait and see. Perhaps it's none of these. Maybe it is just straight-up pay-to-play with no extra value. Who knows. 
 
Oh, and how is activision the number one publisher? 
 
Because Blizzard.
#114 Posted by robot4me (193 posts) -

GOOD RIDANCE TO CRAP GAMES. Now they need to stop making c o d every year and I might think they like gamers.

#115 Posted by DrPockets000 (2859 posts) -

Fuck, I was looking forward to True Crime.

#116 Posted by TheDudeOfGaming (6078 posts) -

God damn true crime sucks.

#117 Posted by Zaxex (578 posts) -

Thank god they cancelled those games and franchises so they can focus on Call of Duty which is all I ever want, I don't at all feel like those games are all Call of Duty 4 or that Activision is going to flood the market with them until kill that franchise too.  
 
Oh, and I respect anyone who can cancel several franchises, try to justify that, and then go on to announce half a dozen movie/TV games.  
 
Done with Call of Duty; Kodick doesn't want the masses getting any variety or originality.

#118 Posted by kidman (465 posts) -

They better make another DJ Hero game - one of my fav series, GODDAMNIT!

#119 Posted by flufflogic (289 posts) -

That's a pretty clear statement that what they have repeatedly denied is true: they plan to make their Call of Duty series independent of XBL and PSN, and charge for multiplayer access. He states clearly it is a platform, offering a suite of services. That to me sounds like "pay a WoW-like subscription, we don't charge for map packs or multiplayer access any more".

#120 Posted by jakob187 (21642 posts) -

From some of the things I had read, it seemed like Activision isn't killing the Guitar Hero and DJ Hero franchises, but they are merely taking a break on those until 2012 or after. 
 
Nonetheless, Activision and their milking ways are just bullshit.  They need a new original IP that they will SUPPORT instead of just leaving on the wayside *cough* BLUR *cough*.

#121 Posted by RagingLion (1363 posts) -
@megalowho said:
" I did not think it was possible, but it seems like Activision's portfolio is becoming even more bland and unexciting than ever before. No one will fault them for giving Guitar Hero and Tony Hawk a rest, but the fact that those two franchises are in the gutter to begin with is the direct result of poor decisions by management over the years. It's a real shame to see such a huge company with so much developer talent on its payroll commit so fully to eliminating risk taking and creative decision making across the board. "
I think this sums up the situation best.
#122 Posted by Maajin (1052 posts) -

I really feel for the United Front Games guys... Can you imagine what it must feel to work your ass on a project for years and suddenly be asked to throw it all away for the sake of Call of Duty? Not getting your chance to show what you can do when the Robomodo guys got it twice? Really sad news...

#123 Posted by BounceDK (172 posts) -

lmfao CoD dedicated studio. CoD is as generic and boring as a shooter can get.

#124 Posted by Tordah (2471 posts) -

Doesn't surprise me that much. I do wonder how smart it is to invest almost everything into COD, though. That golden goose won't run forever.

#125 Posted by Azteck (7449 posts) -

What's this, more CoD? I never would've guessed!!

#126 Posted by Terranova (582 posts) -
@theplatypus said:
" I really feel for the United Front Games guys... Can you imagine what it must feel to work your ass on a project for years and suddenly be asked to throw it all away for the sake of Call of Duty? Not getting your chance to show what you can do when the Robomodo guys got it twice? Really sad news... "
Have to agree, the game was pretty much done all the content was there and was in a fully playable state just needed polishing and optimising, Whilst the True crime games were not the best in the world they were decent enough, i had fun with them and TC-Hong kong was looking on track to being a fun enough game.. such a shame Activision has the licence for it as it would be nice to see it released under a different publisher maybe even take -Two.   
#127 Posted by zaglis (909 posts) -
@DrPockets000 said:
" Fuck, I was looking forward to True Crime. "
The same here.
#128 Posted by Greenlight13 (99 posts) -

I kind of liked the first True Crime and had high hopes for the new one, so it kind of sucks they're just canning it for the sake of Call of Duty. On the other hand music games needed to die pretty much the moment they started churning out artist-dedicated ones to flood the market. 
 
Also... a Family Guy game?!

#129 Posted by blaakmawf (543 posts) -

Seems like a bunch of sound business decisions.

#130 Posted by EpsilonSE (176 posts) -

Honestly this sounds like justifiable business decisions with poor business strategy. The strategy is, "We are going to stream line our development to give you more of the same stuff you love, and rid ourselves of the same, old, bland stuff you don't. It's win-win!" What they fail to realize is the keyword SAME. One day, COD and WOW will be bland and not exciting to the market. Their approach seems to be resistant to innovation until the franchise dies, and under their current strategy it will cost them every franchise they own, eventually.

#131 Posted by ThePantheon (703 posts) -

No new DJ Hero makes me a sad panda.
 
At least give us more DJ Hero 2 DLC.. i'm eating that stuff up!!!

#132 Posted by XenoZak (170 posts) -

blizzard is in a bad position.. funding the activision fail train

#134 Posted by buft (3301 posts) -
@BradNicholson:  cool!!!! I love that they canned diversity in lieu of creating a system to make us pay more for their biggest franchises. 
#135 Posted by Delicious_Brains (170 posts) -

Ah shit, I was looking forward to a new True Crime. But hey, pumping more resources into that popular shit heap of a franchise, why not.

#136 Posted by KillerFly (396 posts) -

It'd be so great if music games all took a few years off so they could come back when people can actually be excited for one again.

#137 Posted by JuggaloAcidman (272 posts) -

Is it just me or does Activision make some really awful games? Why Blizzard got in bed with Activision is beyond me... COD is there only quality product... And even then... Black Ops... Not my favorite that's for sure.

#138 Posted by TOYBOXX (310 posts) -

It's clear that Activision is relying solely on the console market to make the most money through the Call of Duty franchise, which isn't good. My fear is that they'll run the series to the ground, as they did with the Guitar Hero franchise, by over saturating the market with too many COD games.   

#139 Posted by WilliamHenry (1200 posts) -

Activision is an anomaly to me. You would think a company that makes as much as it does off of its popular franchises would be more willing to put out less profitable/mainstream games because they could easily recoup whatever losses those games would have. It confuses and scares me a bit that they only want to focus on their popular franchises. I guess I can understand that they don't want to lose money at all, but surely they have to realize that they can't rely on COD forever right?

#140 Posted by DukeTogo (1504 posts) -
@rebgav said:
" I can't imagine that Activision is planning a subscription-based COD. Console gamers in general don't tend to go for online-only games in large numbers and a huge portion of COD's audience is too young to own a credit card."
I think you're being a little naive about kids with credit cards, they get their folks to do it for them.  Subscriptions for something like CoD have been discussed before, and it actually makes sense considering the sheer number of people playing them.  Going for a package deal of something like $5 a month for a map every odd month and a weapon or perk every even month.
#142 Posted by xAbleAssassinx (199 posts) -
@Terranova said:   
"TC-Hong kong was looking on track to being a fun enough game.. such a shame Activision has the licence for it as it would be nice to see it released under a different publisher maybe even take -Two."
This would be nice but it's unlikely Take Two will want to invest in another open world game, on top of Mafia 2 and GTA, without guaranteed sales. Although I'd rather see them put out a new True Crime than another Mafia title.
#143 Edited by Lepuke (327 posts) -
@NMC2008 said:

" @Lepuke:  What did they win exactly? Layoffs and hard times? "

Well I suppose what I mean is, on the bright side Harmonix is still operating and producing content. (Which I  purchase and enjoy fairly regularly)
They were recently able to pull off the ability purchase their studio back and are independently owned by themselves now.
At least they still have a fighting chance which is more than people who worked for Neversoft and Red Octane can say...
 
Edit: Well crap, I was in the Rock Band forums and just discovered HMX just laid some people off recently as well, but my above statement is still true.
#144 Posted by Heartagram (1181 posts) -

Not that I'm surprised...but saddened by the DJ Hero News. Was really the only exciting rhythm game out there to me. Even Rock Band 3 was mostly more of the same. Meh 

#145 Posted by LOZZAT (252 posts) -

Awww :( I was looking forward to that new True Crime game, how can they cancel it after all the previews and videos? A bunch of new screenshots were just released really recently. I hate Activision -.- They have NO good franchises now, and even if you do still like COD or whatever, they're going to run their last remaining franchises into the ground! If they cancel everything that's creative or fresh, who the hell's going to buy their games for much longer?

#146 Posted by apoloimagod (117 posts) -

Looks like Activision is relying heavily on the COD franchise. Not a good idea from a business standpoint. The next couple of years don't look so good for Activision, it will all depend on the success of this new COD subscription experiment.

#147 Posted by Terranova (582 posts) -
@xAbleAssassinx said:

" @Terranova said:   

"TC-Hong kong was looking on track to being a fun enough game.. such a shame Activision has the licence for it as it would be nice to see it released under a different publisher maybe even take -Two."
This would be nice but it's unlikely Take Two will want to invest in another open world game, on top of Mafia 2 and GTA, without guaranteed sales. Although I'd rather see them put out a new True Crime than another Mafia title. "
 Yeah that's true,  can't really think of another publisher that would invest  if it were offered other than maybe THQ they do have the saint's row series so another open world style game might be ok with them.  
#148 Posted by haggis (1677 posts) -

It's a bit of a mess, but I can't be upset about Guitar Hero, which seems to be getting the most ink in the mainstream press. It was nice for awhile, but they didn't change up the formula enough to keep it moving forward. It deserved to be axed, shredded, and unplugged.

#149 Posted by IncredibleBulk92 (936 posts) -

Jesus, didn't think they'd be killing off Guitar Hero any time soon.  They've been over milking it for years but to actually get to the point where there's not even a point in making these games in about 5 years is crazy, I though Guitar Hero and Rock band would be the new Mario vs... well not Sonic.

#150 Posted by FlipperDesert (2081 posts) -
@Donos said:
"Also: " and bring online experiences and console play together for the first time." Oh good, now I can use the ethernet cable that's been sticking out of my xbox for the last 4 years. "
Wait, that's what that's meant to be for? I was trying to cram my TV cable in there to see if I could get a signal.

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