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    Alice: Madness Returns

    Game » consists of 11 releases. Released Jun 14, 2011

    Alice is back, and so is her fragile grasp on reality. She must journey through both Victorian London and the dark world of Wonderland to retain her sanity and find out the truth behind her family's deaths, in this long-awaited sequel to American McGee's Alice.

    IGN review is up

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    Solh0und

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    #1  Edited By Solh0und

    6.5/10  Agree or Disagree?
     
    I'm very excited about the game so i personally disagree.

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    #2  Edited By Animasta

    maybe the game isn't as good as you're hoping

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    #3  Edited By Getz

    IGN is staffed by monkeys.

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    #4  Edited By RE_Player1

    Gamespot gave it a 7. I'm looking forward to it but I think I'll wait for it to drop to $39.99. Lot's of EA games have done so relatively quickly on sites like Amazon.

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    #5  Edited By Chop

    Meh...about what I expected. I'm not sure where the random hype for this game is coming from, the first Alice was kinda crummy.

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    #6  Edited By ChickenPants

    The first game didn't do very well critically either but I still loved it. Very much looking forward to checking it out for myself.

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    #7  Edited By iamjohn

    @solh0und: How can you disagree with a score to a game you haven't played?

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    #8  Edited By Solh0und
    @Getz said:

    IGN is staffed by monkeys.

    Or you can say " You can't spell ignorant without I-G-N"
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    #9  Edited By sixghost

    @iAmJohn said:

    @solh0und: How can you disagree with a score to a game you haven't played?

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    #10  Edited By DeeGee

    Nothing I see about this game makes it look very good. I own three copies of Alice in Wonderland, and a crazy gothic version sounds awesome in theory, but just because it has a great concept, it doesn't mean I can overlook how dated it is. Reminds me of a Harry Potter game from around six years ago.

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    #11  Edited By Cincaid

    @iAmJohn said:

    @solh0und: How can you disagree with a score to a game you haven't played?

    I really wonder that as well.

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    #12  Edited By spazmaster666

    So I guess that makes the game only 18.1% better than DNF? Sounds disappointing . . .

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    #13  Edited By phrosnite

    Gamespot gave it a 7/10... Man, I was sooooooo excited about this game. Guess, I will wait for a price drop... WTF with the flops/disappointments this year?

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    #14  Edited By Solh0und
    @iAmJohn said:

    @solh0und: How can you disagree with a score to a game you haven't played?

    I said I'm excited for the game that doesn't mean I have played it or anything. I have played the first game back when I was younger and enjoyed it so when this got announced,I was pumped for it.
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    #15  Edited By Cincaid

    @solh0und said:

    @iAmJohn said:

    @solh0und: How can you disagree with a score to a game you haven't played?

    I said I'm excited for the game that doesn't mean I have played it or anything. I have played the first game back when I was younger and enjoyed it so when this got announced,I was pumped for it.

    @solh0und said:

    6.5/10 Agree or Disagree? I'm very excited about the game so i personally disagree.

    You quite clearly state in your original post that you disagree with IGN's score. And you say you haven't played the game yourself, just that you're excited for it.

    Doesn't explain on how you can disagree to a review to a game you haven't actually played yet. Disappointed? I can understand that. But disagree? That's another thing.

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    #16  Edited By iamjohn

    @solh0und said:

    @iAmJohn said:

    @solh0und: How can you disagree with a score to a game you haven't played?

    I said I'm excited for the game that doesn't mean I have played it or anything. I have played the first game back when I was younger and enjoyed it so when this got announced,I was pumped for it.

    Yeah, but:

    @solh0und said:

    I'm very excited about the game so i personally disagree.

    Surely you can see how it doesn't make sense to say that you disagree with a review when you have no experience with the game being reviewed? I can say Thor is the worst movie of the year and anyone who gave it a good review is stupid all I want, but it doesn't change the fact that I haven't seen Thor and therefore should not be talking about its quality in any way whatsoever.

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    #17  Edited By rmanthorp  Moderator

    Games probably going to be junk... The idea is so outdated I hate all the mary sue shit with Alice...

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    #18  Edited By Crixaliz
    @phrosnite said:
    Gamespot gave it a 7/10... Man, I was sooooooo excited about this game. Guess, I will wait for a price drop... WTF with the flops/disappointments this year?
    I totally agree. First RF: Armageddon and now this.
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    @Getz said:

    IGN is staffed by monkeys.

    Agree even if the game is mediocre time has shown IGN is paid off just like Gamespot,it's hard to get a real sense of the game unless there's a good demo every game needs one.
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    #20  Edited By ApolloBob

    No, no, no I think he's on to something!  Imagine being able to give a game a score based on how much you're looking forward to playing it!  
     
    "I can't wait to play this - it's a 10!"
    "Meh, I might want to play this - 6.5"
    "I have no interest in this game - 2/10"
     
    Think how much time they'd save at IGN if they could pump out reviews this way!

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    #21  Edited By BeachThunder
    @phrosnite said:
    Gamespot gave it a 7/10... Man, I was sooooooo excited about this game. Guess, I will wait for a price drop... WTF with the flops/disappointments this year?
    Well, there's been a lot of high profile games released this year, they're not all going to be masterpieces. Some will be Portals and unfortunately others will be Dukes and Alices.
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    #22  Edited By TheHBK
    @Getz said:

    IGN is staffed by monkeys.

      
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    #23  Edited By iamjohn

    @TheHBK: Hillary Goldstein, relaxing at home.

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    #24  Edited By Solh0und
    @TheHBK said:
    @Getz said:

    IGN is staffed by monkeys.

      
    I wonder if they also write good literature.... 
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    #25  Edited By BlackIrish05

    You can't agree or disagree before playing it...

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    #26  Edited By DeeGee

    @TheHBK said:

    I wonder how many other people watch that clip and immedialy think of that episode from Hey Arnold where Oskar learns to read ...

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    #27  Edited By Grimace

    What are you talking about? 7/10 is a good score.

    Whats the point of a scale if you aren't going to use it?

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    #28  Edited By theoldhouse
    @solh0und: You can't disagree with a review until you play it.  
     
    Thats just dumb. 
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    #29  Edited By Camosid

    @Grimace: I agree. Shouldn't 7 mean the game functions and presents some decent mechanics. Sounds to me like the game works well enough to allow you to enjoy the atmosphere, enviroments, and story. Hell even a 6.5 I would take as the game just has a few major flaws and is maybe a bit repetative.

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    #30  Edited By beforet

    When did 6.5/7 become bad scores?

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    #31  Edited By Camosid

    @Beforet: Wait...what?

    Edit: Got confused. Thought he was saying 6.5 out of 7.

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    #32  Edited By benjaebe

    @Beforet said:

    When did 6.5/7 become bad scores?

    When Metacritic.

    Personally I'm a huge fan of the Alice series and I'll probably enjoy the game a lot. Fuck review scores.

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    #33  Edited By phrosnite
    @Camosid said:

    @Grimace: I agree. Shouldn't 7 mean the game functions and presents some decent mechanics. Sounds to me like the game works well enough to allow you to enjoy the atmosphere, enviroments, and story. Hell even a 6.5 I would take as the game just has a few major flaws and is maybe a bit repetative.

    Anything below 8 means rental(consoles) or "wait for huge price drop" for us PC gamers. These games aren't worth full price. Not to mention that Alice looked for fucking promising. The game looked like a 8.5+. Kevin even said that the old game is superior to the new one.
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    #34  Edited By DeeGee

    I can't believe this game even came out, considering how badly the first game sold.

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    #35  Edited By Solh0und
    @DeeGee said:

    I can't believe this game even came out, considering how badly the first game sold.

    Think we'll see a C&C: Renegade 2?
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    #36  Edited By DeeGee

    @solh0und: I would pay a hundred dollars for that game =(

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    #37  Edited By Camosid

    @phrosnite: Keep in mind. Using Amazon credits and the 15 dollar discount. I got this game for 25 dollars. I already had my huge pricecut. I can see what you mean, I just think people expected too much from Mr.McGee. He has never made a game with great "gameplay".

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    #38  Edited By UlquioKani

    What is with all the IGN hate, they aren't that bad

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    #39  Edited By Camosid

    @UlquioKani: They aren't atrocious, but their website is. I can't stand navigating that place. I have trouble finding the byline and when I want to look for articles written by specific people I have no luck.

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    #40  Edited By UlquioKani
    @Camosid said:

    @UlquioKani: They aren't atrocious, but their website is. I can't stand navigating that place. I have trouble finding the byline and when I want to look for articles written by specific people I have no luck.

    But most of the hate for them on this thread is about their ability as reviewers and journalists. I will agree that their website is a mess
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    #41  Edited By sixghost

    @Grimace said:

    What are you talking about? 7/10 is a good score.

    Whats the point of a scale if you aren't going to use it?

    Tell that to the reviewers, not the people consuming the review. If they are only going to utilize 1/2 of the scale, a 7 is not a good score.

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    #42  Edited By Camosid

    @sixghost: Even if you are saying they are using half the scale. 7/10 is a 3/5 and thats not terrible.

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    #43  Edited By Animasta

    @phrosnite said:

    @Camosid said:

    @Grimace: I agree. Shouldn't 7 mean the game functions and presents some decent mechanics. Sounds to me like the game works well enough to allow you to enjoy the atmosphere, enviroments, and story. Hell even a 6.5 I would take as the game just has a few major flaws and is maybe a bit repetative.

    Anything below 8 means rental(consoles) or "wait for huge price drop" for us PC gamers. These games aren't worth full price. Not to mention that Alice looked for fucking promising. The game looked like a 8.5+. Kevin even said that the old game is superior to the new one.

    lol you care about review scores

    everybody shit on alpha protocol but I paid the full 50 and felt great about doing so, so...

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    #44  Edited By phrosnite
    @Laketown said:

    @phrosnite said:

    @Camosid said:

    @Grimace: I agree. Shouldn't 7 mean the game functions and presents some decent mechanics. Sounds to me like the game works well enough to allow you to enjoy the atmosphere, enviroments, and story. Hell even a 6.5 I would take as the game just has a few major flaws and is maybe a bit repetative.

    Anything below 8 means rental(consoles) or "wait for huge price drop" for us PC gamers. These games aren't worth full price. Not to mention that Alice looked for fucking promising. The game looked like a 8.5+. Kevin even said that the old game is superior to the new one.

    lol you care about review scores

    everybody shit on alpha protocol but I paid the full 50 and felt great about doing so, so...

    I have yet to buy a game below 8 which is worth the $50.
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    #45  Edited By christ0phe

    I feel like the text of the review did not necessarily represent the score

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    #46  Edited By UlquioKani
    @Laketown said:

    @phrosnite said:

    @Camosid said:

    @Grimace: I agree. Shouldn't 7 mean the game functions and presents some decent mechanics. Sounds to me like the game works well enough to allow you to enjoy the atmosphere, enviroments, and story. Hell even a 6.5 I would take as the game just has a few major flaws and is maybe a bit repetative.

    Anything below 8 means rental(consoles) or "wait for huge price drop" for us PC gamers. These games aren't worth full price. Not to mention that Alice looked for fucking promising. The game looked like a 8.5+. Kevin even said that the old game is superior to the new one.

    lol you care about review scores

    everybody shit on alpha protocol but I paid the full 50 and felt great about doing so, so...

    Review scores help people make a decision on a game. It's the reason that they exist (Apart from money). Jeff lost his former job making sure people didn't buy crap. Most reviewers are not fact they are there as guidance.
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    #47  Edited By ProfessorEss

    Hey look! It's all the same posts that are in every topic that has IGN in the title!!
     
    (...I'm actually only posting this because they each need one of these posts too :P)

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    #48  Edited By Camosid

    @Laketown: You have a point. I loved Alpha Protocol as well. The score won't ever effect my enthusiasm for a game, but the review text will.

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    #49  Edited By Animasta

    @Camosid said:

    @Laketown: You have a point. I loved Alpha Protocol as well. The score won't ever effect my enthusiasm for a game, but the review text will.

    oh sure, I was just saying that not buying a game you're interested in because the score goes below an 8 is retarded

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    #50  Edited By ChickenPants

    I don't see why people where expecting such high scores anyways. How many critically acclaimed 3D platformers do you see nowadays? Besides the obvious one that is...

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