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Backtracking: Remembering Grand Theft Auto: Vice City With Retro City Rampage's Brian Provinciano

We run pretty far away, all the way back to 2002, with the designer of Retro City Rampage to talk about his love for Rockstar Games' 80s opus.

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Retro City Rampage not only parodies Grand Theft Auto, but Metal Gear, TMNT and others.
Retro City Rampage not only parodies Grand Theft Auto, but Metal Gear, TMNT and others.

We’ve been waiting for Retro City Rampage for what seems like forever. I first saw the game at PAX 2010, the same year Supergiant GamesBastion was shown for the first time, and it’s still not here.

Retro City Rampage’s official release isn’t far off, however, and the game was just announced for even more platforms: Vita and PlayStation 3 (via PlayStation Network). It's also coming to Xbox Live Arcade, Steam and, WiiWare. Yep, it's still coming to WiiWare.

The open world parody is the brainchild of Brian Provinciano. With Retro City Rampage almost done, I reached out to Provinciano to ask him about his favorite game of all-time. It should come as no surprise his selections comes from the genre he’s lampooning.

When asked, Provinciano picked Rockstar Games’ beloved Grand Theft Auto: Vice City.

I’m still tweaking the format of this feature, too. Suggestions welcome.

GB: Why is Vice City your favorite video game? What makes it stand above everything else?

Provinciano: Maybe it was the right game at the right time, but it evokes such great memories. While I love Super Mario and Tetris and so many others, the game mixed with its soundtrack and tone was just right. There's so much you can do, and you get great feedback satisfaction playing it, doing insane stunts and so forth. It really is the less is more, because while San Andreas expanded the world so much, and GTA IV expanded the detail, Vice City is still my favorite. It's funny though because everyone tells me to pick up Saints Row and that I'll love it, but I just haven't had the time. I played the first half hour of SR3 but need to play more to see if it can stack up.

GB: Do you know how old you were when you first played Vice City? What do you remember?

Provinciano: It feels weird that I'm not saying a game that came out when I was super young. I was 18 or something. I remember going to EB Games on launch day to find out they were sold out but were getting a shipment in the afternoon, so I was hanging around the mall for hours like Jay and Silent Bob until someone walked by and said that Toys R Us had gotten them in, so I rushed over there and nabbed one. I really should've just preordered.

GB: And do you return to Vice City every so often? How come? What changes when you go back?

Provinciano: I do. I even picked up a second copy, the Xbox version just to play it with slightly smoother visuals. It definitely felt weird going back to it after playing Crackdown and GTA IV. The driving felt like it was on rails, like there was a magnet keeping me onto the road. I guess the more realistic (and more difficult to control) physics in games today have made me that much more skilled, where driving in Vice City now seems too easy. At the same time, I'm a fan of fun over realism.

GB: Has Vice City influenced the way you make video games? In what ways?

Provinciano: Absolutely. I can't imagine that I would've created Retro City Ramapage in the first place had I not been such a fan of the Grand Theft Auto series.

GB: When you first played Vice City, you just played games for fun. Today, you make them. How does that color the experience?

Provinciano: It's definitely changed it, a lot. I see and appreciate the craftsman ship of games now more than blindly sit back and enjoy them. However, I still get just as inspired by that as I did my love for the games before that was the case.

GB: Can you point to any part of Retro City Rampage that was specifically influenced by Vice City?

Provinciano: Probably the tone of the game, both its humor and visuals. Although RCR’s humor is far wackier and over the top, Vice City’s humor in my opinion is the best in the series. It’s also unquestionably the most colorful and vibrant, evoking “feel good” vibes not really seen in the others with their gloomier, grittier atmosphere.

GB: Do you have a favorite moment in Vice City?

Provinciano: The game as a whole was great. The story arc worked very well and was the perfect length. When I reflect on my memories though, I see myself driving up and down the strip listening to the soundtrack, flooring the gas and and hitting jumps. In fact, I still pop the game in once and a while and usually just cruise for a bit.

Vice City Stories was part of Rockstar Games' big push on the PSP.
Vice City Stories was part of Rockstar Games' big push on the PSP.

GB: Part of the reason people so deeply love Vice City is the game's spectacular soundtrack. What're your highlights?

Provinciano: We all have our favorite songs, and man, when you’re playing for a while and they come on, it’s just the greatest. That could even be my actual favorite moment come to think of it. There’s some strong connection with the music, where I’d hear a song in real life and feel a strong urge to go and play the game more and vice versa. I felt this with the Midnight Club 2 soundtrack too, it just had that magic to it.

GB: Since you enjoyed Vice City so much, you must have loved Vice City Stories, right?

Provinciano: It’s so weird that I couldn’t get into Vice City Stories even though I like Vice City so much. Maybe the story was just right for me. I’m sure the chosen protagonist had a lot to do with it too, and I know he wouldn’t have been the same without Ray Liotta. It could just be that there are only so many you can do missions based around driving and shooting, so it just didn’t feel as new and exciting. Hard to say.

I know many people at the various Rockstar studios, and they’re all among the hardest working in the industry. They put their all into each game, which is why they’re always so polished and impressive. I’m sure the VCS team put just as much soul into it as the original studio did with Vice City. I’ve probably just had too many years to build up an unbreakable wall of nostalgia towards it, and nothing could ever compare. It makes me wonder if I’d rather have a proper sequel or a next gen remake, and my gut tells me a remake.

GB: In a single sentence, explain to anyone reading this why, if they haven't, they should play Vice City.

Provinciano: Vice City is perfect hit sweet spot, showing these days that less is more.

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To this day I still feel Vice City had the best story of all the GTAs. The later titles started getting a little lost in that department. I know I cheered on Tony Vercetti while I thought CJ was a mindless drone and Nikko seemed completely apathetic which considering the circumstances I couldn't relate to.

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Could never get into Vice City.  Loved San Andreas.

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Vice City is one of the greatest games ever made, in my opinion. Never has a game world sucked me in and immersed me like this one. It makes me smile just to think about it.

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San Andreas was my favourite.

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Edited By PlatypusPlatoon

Just watching the trailer, with its neon colour palette and the new wave soundtrack blaring, brings back incredible memories.

Vice City is absolutely my favourite GTA, too. One of my favourite games of all time.

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If hes a fan of Vice City, why isnt Retro Rampage more like Vice City,, as in open world 3-D instead of 2-D. I think this would be a game I actually want to play were that the case...

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I should fire up Vice City some time to feel the rush of nostalgia after I bought the GTA collection on Steam. Still my favourite GTA game.

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Vice City had the tone, soundtrack and period. It's my favourite in the series. I never finished San Andreas, it just got too big and the characters weren't as interesting.

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@Sooty said:

Best GTA by far!
@believer258 said:

Am i first? Damn it.

Anyway, I never played any of the old GTA's. Do they still hold up or should I just stick with Saints Row?

Controls are dated (the shooting) but it's still fun. Driving in the older games is way better than IV's stupid every single car feels like it weighs a bigillion tonnes approach.

IV's driving is great, any inbred monkey should be able to figure it out within a few minutes. Don't let that hold you back from playing a great game, but the GTA III-San Andreas era games are definitely worth playing.

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After playing the fuck out of GTA III, I was super-pumped for Vice.  When I got Vice and opened the box and checked the map, I thought, "Where's the rest of it?"  Sure, there's a lot of style and the soundtrack is great, but to me, it felt like more of a total conversion of GTA III than a sequel.  The world was tiny and even with the new features and stuff, it felt like more of the same.  Maybe I need to revisit it.  I know GTA III is a tough act to follow and big shoes to fill, but I found Vice to be disappointing.
That being said, DAYUM, SON, I've been waiting for RCR since its Grand Theftendo days.  I remember sending Brian an encouraging email back in high school and he was friendly and fast with his reply.  I will gladly pay for this when it comes out.  And hell, I might get the WiiWare version, too.

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GTA: Vice City is my all time favorite GTA game, it just nailed everything for me. I like the guy in the interview, still have to finish GTA: VCS. I thing I have the PS2 version somewhere around and also the PSP one on my PS Vita.

I keep dreaming that Rockstar will make Vice City 2 or a game in that scope and feel.

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As GTA games go this one was just crammed with the ingredient that seems to be be getting rarer and rarer, and that's charm.

The great thing about the soundtrack is that it wasn't that you were listening to an 80s station, you are in the 80s and the radio stations are playing the music of the day which means you also had 80s DJs and fake 80s adverts all of which were mocked lovingly or horribly but always delightfully. I remember listening to "Video Killed the Radio Star" and thinking that I'd stop playing as soon as the song had finished; it went straight into "Japanese Boy" by Anneka and I had an emotional swell that raised all the hair on my forearms and almost made tears squirt out of my face. I'd never felt anything like it when playing a game. Sometimes you might even cock up a mission because there was no way you were getting out of the car, not while Gary Newman's playing, oh no.

Missions were also funny or goofy and felt like some half dream that could happen if you'd fallen asleep in front of Miami Vice and Ray Liotta brought something special to them all. I had no idea he was so comedic. I finished it in 2008 and only saw Scarface a few months ago and was like "Hey - that's the big house from Vice City!"

It's brilliant, play it. For me it's one of those "Wow, remember when games were like this - meant to be fun?" experiences and it's made me really happy reading the comments in this thread. Cheers.

Here are some familiar faces sharing their feelings.

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Okay. This guy just sold me on his game by having similar tastes to my own.

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San Andres felt like a step backward to me. Loved Vice City, played it endlessly. Missions were great, story was truly comical, the radio stations had incredible personality whether talk or music, such an incredibly solid and memorable experience.

Love Fist!

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@Th3_James said:

@Sooty said:

Best GTA by far!
@believer258 said:

Am i first? Damn it.

Anyway, I never played any of the old GTA's. Do they still hold up or should I just stick with Saints Row?

Controls are dated (the shooting) but it's still fun. Driving in the older games is way better than IV's stupid every single car feels like it weighs a bigillion tonnes approach.

IV's driving is great, any inbred monkey should be able to figure it out within a few minutes. Don't let that hold you back from playing a great game, but the GTA III-San Andreas era games are definitely worth playing.

I'm guessing the difference is realistic driving (think Forza) vs. arcadey (think Burnout) driving?

I can handle realistic driving, but I have always thought that arcadey driving was more fun, especially in open world games. Anyway, if they ever release a GTA III-Vice City-San Andreas compilation I'll be picking it up.

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@Th3_James said:

@Sooty said:

Best GTA by far!
@believer258 said:

Am i first? Damn it.

Anyway, I never played any of the old GTA's. Do they still hold up or should I just stick with Saints Row?

Controls are dated (the shooting) but it's still fun. Driving in the older games is way better than IV's stupid every single car feels like it weighs a bigillion tonnes approach.

IV's driving is great, any inbred monkey should be able to figure it out within a few minutes. Don't let that hold you back from playing a great game, but the GTA III-San Andreas era games are definitely worth playing.

I didn't say I couldn't drive in the game nor was I making out it was hard to do so, it just wasn't as fun because of the ridiculous weight all the cars seemed to have.

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Great article, love Vice City but GTA4 is my favourite because trying to go back and play the old GTA games just reminds me of how bad the controls were

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ove the gta series

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Gta 3, VC, and San Andreas were all amazing but I agree that vice city hit that sweet spot. If love a hd remaster where it's literally exactly the same but in the gta4/5 engine

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The love I have for these last-gen GTA games borders on the absurd, but I think it's largely because they revived my interest in gaming at a time when I was most likely to abandon the hobby. All three of them were released during my college years (except San Andreas which came out right after I left) and they completely blew the lid off what I had come to expect from a video game. The memories of having 10 guys crammed into a tiny room passing the controller around wreaking havoc in GTA III for the first time, blowing off studying for finals in a frantic quest to get 100% in Vice City, and just sitting there in stunned amazement when I first opened up the map screen in San Andreas and realizing the utter magnitude of the scope of that world are all indelible memories that I will always think of when I inevitably wonder 20 years from now why I'm still an avid gamer in my fifties.

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I loved that damn game.

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Vice City is to this day, my favorite GTA game. Hard to top that cast which included Ray Liotta. Vice City Stories was good, but I just didn't like the characters as much. The Jive Drive mission in stories is such a kick to the nuts! UGH

I'm almost tempted to pick up the Ballad of Gay Tony, but think it may pale in comparison to Saint's Row The Third, which I already own.

Anyone else (that has played both of these games) agree?

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@HarlechQuinn said:

Still the best GTA till today...

Nothing beats and will ever beat exploding with your car on a beach while watching the purple/pink sunset and listening to Jan Hammer's "Crockett's Theme"... This is what I call a magic gaming moment...

Yes. Abso-fucking-lutely!

San Andreas, while sprawling, did not resonate with me as emotionally. CJ, also was a total tool.

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For your information:

craftsmanship is all one word.

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Ill be downloading this onto my vita when it comes out. Seems like it'll be fun.

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I can't wait to get this game on Vita.

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VC and SA were great, but I wish 3 would get more love.

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I kinda preferred Vice City Stories over Vice City, at least on PS2, seems Xbox had a slightly better looking and controlling version of VC, and VCS made the controls feel a lot better on the PS2, though it had a lower polycount and lower resolution textures which was offset by better shaders - like GTA3/VC on Xbox the cars had reflections, and the roads had specular highlights that reflected the street lights and stuff wonderfully at night - the original VC on PS2 had much flatter textures and lightning. VCS had a lot more bugs though - and VC wasn't exactly bug free either - VCS had me getting stuck in geometry and hard lock the PS2 within 15 minutes of putting the disc in for the first time.

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Really cool article, Patrick. Vice City was definitely a magical game. My second favourite GTA behind IV.

And thanks to this, I'm now looking forward to Retro City Rampage. Didn't even know it was similar to the earlier GTA games. Sounds awesome.

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@believer258: they hold up as long as you still have context to the time period in which it was released. It happens with most any previous generation game. Its still really fun, its like what Brian said in the interview the driving is a bit wonky feeling compared to how vehicles play in current games. The visuals of course wont be the same and a few frustrations in the saving/mission systems (i.e. dying in a mission having to reload a save and drive all the way back to the mission marker to start it from the beginning again. If you can get over a few things like that its still an awesome game. I did the same stuff as brian did. Driving around the city with that radio going has something to it.

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The big selling points for this was being able to ride Motorcycles and having that washed up actor from Goodfella's as the protagonist. It was such a great game.

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The soundtrack for Vice City was certainly well chosen - I enjoyed it even though I liked very little of that music  during the actual time portrayed (I was into punk and Gothic).  I think San Andreas was the ultimate GTA though. IV sacrificed some of the fun aspect of the game for realism.

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GTA IV had some of the best comedy moments of any video game. Getting drunk with Roman stumbling out of the bar falling into a trash can whilst Roman is drunkenly muttering, proceding to run and road to call a taxi yelling "HEY YELLOW CAR", then getting hit by a cop car with Roman and Niko flying of the hood and getting arrested. Getting out of the Police station the next morning getting a text from Roman disaproving. COMEDY GOLD.

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Good on him, can't complain. GTA VC Was a fantastic game, my favorite in the series was san andreas however. High speed cop chases down the las vantuas high way still gives me fond memories!

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I really do love me some Vice City, still my favorite in the series.