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Bethesda Aware of Texture Issues on Skyrim for Xbox 360

Until a title update comes out, you'll have to make a choice about installing the game.

The launch of a new game from Bethesda Softworks typically means a period where the kinks (the ones that Bethesda can reasonably address, anyway) are being worked out.

Players have been reporting texture streaming issues on The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim for Xbox 360, resulting in some lower quality textures never being replaced by their better looking counterparts.

What are people talking about? This.

Bethesda admits it's a problem, specifically as it relates to the Xbox 360 version being installed.

“We’ve seen a few reports of certain textures temporarily scaling down on the Xbox 360, and not scaling back up,” said the studio on its forums. “We have verified that this issue does not occur when playing off the disk and when the game is fully cached (not installed). Skyrim makes heavy use of the Xbox 360 caching system, and caches over the normal course of play while in menus or interiors. This cache can be wiped when other games are played or when the user manually removes it.”

Of course, not installing the game means you’ll have to deal with longer load times, so there’s a decision in front of potential Skyrim players staring at their Xbox 360 discs after work today.

Bethesda said a title update is in the works to address this issue, but there’s not timeframe for it yet.

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Posted by patrickklepek

The launch of a new game from Bethesda Softworks typically means a period where the kinks (the ones that Bethesda can reasonably address, anyway) are being worked out.

Players have been reporting texture streaming issues on The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim for Xbox 360, resulting in some lower quality textures never being replaced by their better looking counterparts.

What are people talking about? This.

Bethesda admits it's a problem, specifically as it relates to the Xbox 360 version being installed.

“We’ve seen a few reports of certain textures temporarily scaling down on the Xbox 360, and not scaling back up,” said the studio on its forums. “We have verified that this issue does not occur when playing off the disk and when the game is fully cached (not installed). Skyrim makes heavy use of the Xbox 360 caching system, and caches over the normal course of play while in menus or interiors. This cache can be wiped when other games are played or when the user manually removes it.”

Of course, not installing the game means you’ll have to deal with longer load times, so there’s a decision in front of potential Skyrim players staring at their Xbox 360 discs after work today.

Bethesda said a title update is in the works to address this issue, but there’s not timeframe for it yet.

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Edited by Liv

Damn Shoemaker. Posting doubting tweets on Twitter, fueling my doubt. However, as old as my 360 is (late 06, early 07) I prefer my Skyrim installed. The loading times quadrupled when it wasn't installed and crashed a couple of times every hour. I'll stick with lower res textures and a playable game until Bethesda fixes things.

Skyrim is still, all things considered, my game of the year. My muse, my lover, my Achille's heal. Bethesda, I am truly your bitch now --if I wasn't already before, with Oblivion and Fallout 3.

Edit: But it did mean I got my first comment on a GB post. So, yay Bethesda!

Posted by Frenden

Those of you that have it for the Thrixty, how bad are the uninstalled load times?

Posted by RustySpoon

Hmm, so what does it mean if I'm having similar issues without having installed the game?

Posted by BonOrbitz

Thanks Bethesda. Now what about the butt-load of issues the PC version is having?

Posted by drew327

360 and PC are covered, what kind of PS3 issues are we seeing?

Posted by Video_Game_King

Why not just refuse to install it? I've never really had problems with load times in noninstalled games (I refuse to count Duke Nukem Forever simply because the problem seems to be with the game itself).

Posted by Contro

What a mess.

Posted by Rattle618

If you give a shit about this:

1. You are an idiot.

2. You should have bought the PC version.

Edited by PrivateIronTFU

@Rattle618 said:

If you give a shit about this:

1. You are an idiot.

2. You should have bought the PC version.

3. You're a 12 year old. You, specifically.

Posted by kidman

Well that's a fuck up. Also, how about all those people in forums saying there's no way Skyrim is only 3.8 GB.

Posted by MrMuscle

Well damn, im not sure i want the longer load times though so i might just keep it installed.

Posted by ZeForgotten

@Rattle618 said:

If you give a shit about this:

1. You are an idiot.

2. You should have bought the PC version.

Wait so people are idiots because they bought the 360 version and want it to look good? Or are they just idiots because you couldn't think of something smart to say?

Edited by Sn1PeR

@bonorbitz: What PC issues? Crossfire/SLI scaling is pretty bad, but that will be fixed on the driver end. Aside from menu scaling in eyefinity (fixable using memory hacks found on the WSGF for now) I haven't run into any issues (~6-hours in).

Posted by MeatSim

Looks like I will have to suffer through longer load times and loud disc spinning for a while.

Posted by Zabant

@Rattle618: No sir, YOU are an idiot.

Posted by Th3_James

PC VERSION....

Edited by louiedog

If you have a fast external drive you could install it to that. Because the game will be loading from and caching to different places this shouldn't be an issue.

Posted by theuselessgod

Anybody have an estimate on the load time improvements? Fallout 3 and Oblivion were AWFUL if you didn't install them, almost unplayable. How does this roll? Just trying to make a decision here. :P

Posted by BonOrbitz

@Sn1PeR said:

@bonorbitz: What PC issues? Crossfire/SLI scaling is pretty bad, but that will be fixed on the driver end. Aside from menu scaling in eyefinity (fixable using memory hacks found on the WSGF for now) I haven't run into any issues (~6-hours in).

People are reporting numerous issues with the sound being extremely faint, there are weird rubber banding artifacts occurring, GTX 580 usages aren't being fully utilized on i7 systems, extremely low FPS on higher end systems, mouse issues that need to be fixed by tweaking the ini file, low rez texture problems similar to the 360s, and the Steam service is overloaded when trying to install from the retail DVD (that's a Steam issue)...

Posted by aurahack

@ZeForgotten said:

@Rattle618 said:

If you give a shit about this:

1. You are an idiot.

2. You should have bought the PC version.

Wait so people are idiots because they bought the 360 version and want it to look good? Or are they just idiots because you couldn't think of something smart to say?

Both!

Posted by Crunchman

@Rattle618: Have fun with the scraps of a game clearly built for consoles.

Also, I can't directly click on the title of this story from the homepage.

Posted by Moridin

It seems this issue sticks around even if you install it and then delete the install. Or at least it does for me, heh.

I installed last night, got the texture bug, and decided to do some testing.

I uninstalled, cleared my cache, started playing from the disc, and it quickly reared its ugly head again.

The bug seems to be caused by the menu in the game, which blurs the game behind the text when you open it. If I load a save from the main menu, the textures look great. The second I open and close any menu that uses the blur effect it comes right back. It's like the menu blurs everything, but then some things never go back to the way they were before the menu was opened.

I reinstalled the game to get my swift load times and quieter 360 back. It's still odd how some people are getting the bug without having ever installed and others are having no issues at all, installed or not.

Anywho. Gameplay + story > graphics, as we all know. So now I need to return to melting faces in the land of Skyrim. I'm just hoping the title update is swift, so Skyrim can be a pretty place like it should be.

Cheers, gents.

Posted by ShadowSkill11

I don't give a shit. I play the PC version in 1080p on Ultra. I'm good to go.

Posted by BonOrbitz

@Crunchman said:

@Rattle618: Have fun with the scraps of a game clearly built for consoles.

Awwww, but some of us nice folks got the PC version also! :(

Posted by Hammerjelly

I guess I'll just play it off the disc until they patch it, then install it. No big deal.

Posted by gregoryc

The first thing I did was install the game to my hard drive. The lower textures aren't terrible, but they're clearly visible here. Hopefully the update will not take too long.

Posted by rethla

@bonorbitz: And that would be?

Posted by BonOrbitz

@rethla said:

@bonorbitz: And that would be?

Those of us who don't call people "idiots" on forums?

Posted by Claude

Don't they test for these things or do they just say, "Fuck it, we're going gold!"

Posted by Rattle618

@ZeForgotten: @PrivateIronTFU: @Zabant: @aurahack: I have to spell it out then, ok:

This is a game that has one of the strongest modding communities around, if you were so concerned with the quality of the graphics (which should not be the reason you get a TES game in the first place) you should have taken that into account and bought the version of the game that actually supports all that customization. I think it`s great that this game came out on consoles, but you should expect this kind of thing from such old hardware.

You wouldn`t try to run this maxed out on a crappy 5-year-old video card on a pc would you? Then you shouldn`t be expecting this to be flawless on your xbox/ps3.

Posted by 2kings

I second. Motion carried.

Posted by LiquidPenguins

Finish your fucking games before you release them.

Posted by Rekt_Hed

 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
#just a hint of sarcasm ;)

Posted by ptys

Shows how demented the whole fanboy thing is as I was on forum comparing the PS3 to Xbox with screenshots as I was deciding what version to buy and some of the comments were "Xbox 360 textures clearly look better"? Rose coloured specs really can work wonders. I couldn't tell the difference so I got the PS3, lucky I didn't take his advice, LOL.

Posted by confideration

I remember Halo 3 when it came out - Bungie told people to play it off the disk for better performance... the outrage was amazing

Posted by MideonNViscera

I saw the shittier textures and they're definitely preferable to long load times to me.

Posted by Afroman269

At least they're fixing it.

Posted by PrivateIronTFU

@Rattle618 said:

@ZeForgotten: @PrivateIronTFU: @Zabant: @aurahack: I have to spell it out then, ok:

This is a game that has one of the strongest modding communities around, if you were so concerned with the quality of the graphics (which should not be the reason you get a TES game in the first place) you should have taken that into account and bought the version of the game that actually supports all that customization. I think it`s great that this game came out on consoles, but you should expect this kind of thing from such old hardware.

You wouldn`t try to run this maxed out on a crappy 5-year-old video card on a pc would you? Then you shouldn`t be expecting this to be flawless on your xbox/ps3.

How in the hell did you completely miss the point of this article? It's astounding. So basically what you're saying is that if we have a game with good textures, and we load it up, and those textures don't show up like we thought they would, we have no right to complain because we didn't buy it on PC? Even though this kind of stuff rarely, pretty much never, happens on consoles, we should expect it because it's not a brand new PC? You really are 12.

Posted by ZeForgotten

@Rattle618 said:

@ZeForgotten: @PrivateIronTFU: @Zabant: @aurahack: I have to spell it out then, ok:

This is a game that has one of the strongest modding communities around, if you were so concerned with the quality of the graphics (which should not be the reason you get a TES game in the first place) you should have taken that into account and bought the version of the game that actually supports all that customization. I think it`s great that this game came out on consoles, but you should expect this kind of thing from such old hardware.

You wouldn`t try to run this maxed out on a crappy 5-year-old video card on a pc would you? Then you shouldn`t be expecting this to be flawless on your xbox/ps3.

You could have just picked option B and said "I called everyone idiots because I didn't have anything smart to say" because it clearly looks like that you didn't

Posted by drag

oh yeah i guess that's happening to me

i didn't really notice

Posted by 234r2we232

A Bethesda game that doesn't work properly? THIS IS SHOCKING. Maybe it'll be better by the time the GOTY edition comes out...

Posted by Gordo789

@Rattle618 said:

@ZeForgotten: @PrivateIronTFU: @Zabant: @aurahack: I have to spell it out then, ok:

This is a game that has one of the strongest modding communities around, if you were so concerned with the quality of the graphics (which should not be the reason you get a TES game in the first place) you should have taken that into account and bought the version of the game that actually supports all that customization. I think it`s great that this game came out on consoles, but you should expect this kind of thing from such old hardware.

You wouldn`t try to run this maxed out on a crappy 5-year-old video card on a pc would you? Then you shouldn`t be expecting this to be flawless on your xbox/ps3.

Derp? They're patching it. it's all good.

Posted by OldManLight

@RustySpoon said:

Hmm, so what does it mean if I'm having similar issues without having installed the game?

you find the answer to this you let me know,

Posted by TheSouthernDandy

Hmm. Install, possibly have bad textures. 
Don't install, load times, 360 sounds like jet engine.
Install please.

Posted by Helgi

Skyrim is only 3.8 GB? What?

Edited by enemymouse

I hope they patch a hardware mouse into the PC version. I tried the vsync and acceleration tweaks but the pointer is still laggy as all hell.

Posted by TomA

I've been waiting 5 years for this game. I really don't give a shit about a few textures for a couple days.

Posted by The_Big_Rough

@TomA said:

I've been waiting 5 years for this game. I really don't give a shit about a few textures for a couple days.

Damn straight, if a few textures put you off from playing Skyrim I feel sorry for you,

Edited by TheDudeOfGaming
@Rattle618 said:

If you give a shit about this:

1. You are an idiot.

2. You should have bought the PC version.

Pretty much this. It will get fixed, sooner rather than later methinks. But really, if you had a mind to buy Skyrim before release, is this really gonna stop you? Of course not, because it's Skyrim.
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