Capcom: Used Games 'Not a Factor' in Resident Evil: The Mercenaries 3D Lacking Data Reset

The cartridge for this game is nothing like Ocarina of time. To help cut costs which we have then passed on to you the consumer, we opted for a CD-R based internal memory system. The cartridge includes a tiny CD burner that burns the CD-R as you make progress. We looked into the cost of using a CDRW but it tripled productions costs which we didnt want to pass on to you, the consumer.

I call fucking bullshit on greedy ass Capcom.
Activision catches slack for being the same way, but Capcom is almost as bad in my opinion.

What if i wanted to lend it to a friend who wanted to borrow my game and play from the beginning? Stupid Stupid Stupid. Won't be buying it now.

That's some BS if I ever heard it.

@Zor said:

It seem to me, a lot of you are over reacting, especially considering that most of you weren't going to buy the game in the first place. More or less, what i am reading in the comments comes down to, "Oh, a game that i wasn't going to get is doing something that i don't like. This company is doing something stupid and has lost me as a customer... well, if i was going to buy it in the first place, which i wasn't, so in fact my outrage means nothing."

People are concerned about the precedent that this is setting. Maybe this will be used in other Capcom games or games by other developers that more people will care about. Anyone who is not concerned by this is naive or lacking in foresight.

@swfcfan said:

@Zor said:

It seem to me, a lot of you are over reacting, especially considering that most of you weren't going to buy the game in the first place. More or less, what i am reading in the comments comes down to, "Oh, a game that i wasn't going to get is doing something that i don't like. This company is doing something stupid and has lost me as a customer... well, if i was going to buy it in the first place, which i wasn't, so in fact my outrage means nothing."

People are concerned about the precedent that this is setting. Maybe this will be used in other Capcom games or games by other developers that more people will care about. Anyone who is not concerned by this is naive or lacking in foresight.

In what Goddamn scenario is anyone going to want to delete their save data from their cartridge? Not their 'current campaign', their entire save data? Why would you ever do this? There's no earthly explanation, it's not like it's taking up hard drive space, you still have full select of every level in the game, there's no reason to want to delete all data except getting it used and wanting to manually unlock all the maps.

The crazy thing is, I think most of the people getting mad here have never played Mercenaries mode in any Resident Evil game and have no idea how it works. I got yelled at by my friend because he was (and probably still is) under the assumption that not being able to delete your save data means that once you get to the end of the game you can't play it anymore. A normally smart person actually said this to me. I explained Mercenaries mode and how it's just time attack on selectable maps and he still felt like he was getting ripped off (oh, he doesn't have a 3DS, but he was still getting ripped off).

@SecondPersonShooter: If 'unlocking the content' is more important to you than 'playing the game', then maybe a treadmill is more exciting. I play games for the joy of the gameplay, not so I can unlock the parts that make it fun. When I pop Marvel vs. Capcom 3 into my ancient Playstation 3 in a decade, I'm going to be pissed that I have to unlock Taskmaster all over again even though he's my favorite character.

@JamesBr: I don't think you understand how Mercenaries works. It's not a story campaign, it's just Resident Evil in time attack mode. If you want to start over from the beginning, go pick the first map from the menu and use Chris.

@Tober: They can pick the first map out of the menu and play from the beginning.

Once again, I don't think anyone knows how Mercenaries mode works and is just complaining because that's what video game players do. Spend more time whining about shit they know nothing about like a bunch of bitchy trolls than actually enjoying any game.

I have absolutely zero issue with this.

@Brodehousesaid

In what Goddamn scenario is anyone going to want to delete their save data from their cartridge? Not their 'current campaign', their entire save data? Why would you ever do this?

This will effect you current campaign as it will be the only one allowed!

So say your playing a game then your brother plays it for an hour, you restart the game the next day on the same level but now your character is markedly stronger or has a new ability that breaks the level you where playing :(

Sounds great !

This is a shit move on Capcom's part, they can say what they will, but it smells like an attack on the used market, which is fine, but it comes at the expense of the consumer. We can only hope that other companies don't follow suit and do this as well. I cringe at the thought of an RPG where you can't reset the save data.

@Detrian said:

@DrRandle said:

Oh my god again? Really? And from you, of all people, Patrick? I thought you were better than this hype train.

This game does not have a visible "progress." It has high scores, and maybe some character unlocks. This game is not like Resident Evil 4 or 5 where you can just play through a story. It's like Geometry Wars, where your goal is to get a high score by replaying levels. That's it. This is like saying "What if you handed your copy of Street Fighter IV over to your friend?!" The most he would have to do is unlock all the characters, which I remind you, came unlocked in the 3DS version of the game anyhow.

Now if this kind of thing shows up in, say, Resident Evil: The Mercenaries, I can understand it's quite a bit different of a story. But as it stands, with this game, there's no real point to a clear data.

And really, what is the harm in limiting used sales to people? What? You're not going to buy a game used that Capcom was never going to get money for? I'm sure they really feel that loss. It's not like other companies haven't been doing WAY WORST things than preventing a data reset on a game that doesn't even need it in the first place.

Except the game does have progression in the form of a skill tree and custom weapon loadouts.

Wouldn't most people want that shit unlocked from the beginning anyway

@gladspooky said:

@Detrian said:

@DrRandle said:

Oh my god again? Really? And from you, of all people, Patrick? I thought you were better than this hype train.

This game does not have a visible "progress." It has high scores, and maybe some character unlocks. This game is not like Resident Evil 4 or 5 where you can just play through a story. It's like Geometry Wars, where your goal is to get a high score by replaying levels. That's it. This is like saying "What if you handed your copy of Street Fighter IV over to your friend?!" The most he would have to do is unlock all the characters, which I remind you, came unlocked in the 3DS version of the game anyhow.

Now if this kind of thing shows up in, say, Resident Evil: The Mercenaries, I can understand it's quite a bit different of a story. But as it stands, with this game, there's no real point to a clear data.

And really, what is the harm in limiting used sales to people? What? You're not going to buy a game used that Capcom was never going to get money for? I'm sure they really feel that loss. It's not like other companies haven't been doing WAY WORST things than preventing a data reset on a game that doesn't even need it in the first place.

Except the game does have progression in the form of a skill tree and custom weapon loadouts.

Wouldn't most people want that shit unlocked from the beginning anyway

No.

Did EVERYONE miss the line about how you level up your skills?

Sounds like character development. No deal.

@Detrian said:

@gladspooky said:

@Detrian said:

@DrRandle said:

Oh my god again? Really? And from you, of all people, Patrick? I thought you were better than this hype train.

This game does not have a visible "progress." It has high scores, and maybe some character unlocks. This game is not like Resident Evil 4 or 5 where you can just play through a story. It's like Geometry Wars, where your goal is to get a high score by replaying levels. That's it. This is like saying "What if you handed your copy of Street Fighter IV over to your friend?!" The most he would have to do is unlock all the characters, which I remind you, came unlocked in the 3DS version of the game anyhow.

Now if this kind of thing shows up in, say, Resident Evil: The Mercenaries, I can understand it's quite a bit different of a story. But as it stands, with this game, there's no real point to a clear data.

And really, what is the harm in limiting used sales to people? What? You're not going to buy a game used that Capcom was never going to get money for? I'm sure they really feel that loss. It's not like other companies haven't been doing WAY WORST things than preventing a data reset on a game that doesn't even need it in the first place.

Except the game does have progression in the form of a skill tree and custom weapon loadouts.

Wouldn't most people want that shit unlocked from the beginning anyway

No.

why not?

brb, gonna go buy a few used Capcom games.

This is why I love cartridge gaming. In fact it would be awesome if the next generation of consoles was cartridge based. 

Can you say Action Replay? Or whatever 3rd party cheat system available for the 3DS.

I don't buy the capcom excuse, and seeing how some copies are already being resold, they were probly just in trying to curtail preowned sales

All those people complaining, do you even have a 3DS, and if so were you even going to buy the game?

All those people complaining, do you even have a 3DS, and if so were you even going to buy the game?

@first2die said:

All those people complaining, do you even have a 3DS, and if so were you even going to buy the game?

That doesn't really matter. Even if someone doesn't own a 3DS and/or this game now, if this game sells ok it sets a precedent, and then we get shoved down a slippery slope. This is like Oblivion horse armor all over again, but I'd say this is even worse since the only way for the consumer to fight this is not play the game at all. So with that in mind - don't support this nonsense. Shove it up your ass, Capcom.

@KingX said:

@KaneRobot said:

@first2die said:

All those people complaining, do you even have a 3DS, and if so were you even going to buy the game?

That doesn't really matter. Even if someone doesn't own a 3DS and/or this game now, if this game sells ok it sets a precedent, and then we get shoved down a slippery slope. This is like Oblivion horse armor all over again, but I'd say this is even worse since the only way for the consumer to fight this is not play the game at all. So with that in mind - don't support this nonsense. Shove it up your ass, Capcom.

+1

Right, because now EVERY game has horse armor, and after this EVERY game will feature no story but persistent leaderboards and achievements that can only be unlocked once.

Dude, "slippery slope" is called a fallacy for a reason. This doesn't represent a once and for all change to everything, just like horse armor did not.

Buying a used game is like buying a used car or book or whatever in the sense that it is a physical object where ownership can be transferred from one individual to another. However, the outcry on this says that people expect the experience with a used game be almost perfectly similar to that of a brand new game every time, which is not similar to books or cars or any other used experience.

Regardless of the factors. This was just a bad idea.

Well good thing they did this on Mercenaries and not, you know, a good game.

*coughs 'bullshit'*