Despite Everything, Duke Nukem Forever Was Profitable

Profitable for Take-Two, yeah, maybe.  Profitable overall, taking into account the entire development process and all funds sunk into it from various sources?  No fucking chance. 

@HatKing said:

@MajorToms said:

I wonder how many copies of L.A. Noire have actually been sold. Every shop I go into has way too many copies sitting around.

Anyways, who thinks that Duke Nukem will be turned into a "Brah" character? He is the sort of chauvinistic jock of yesteryear, and that translates to the brahs of today. Dear god please don't be this silly Gearbox, Duke has more intelligence than the brahs of today. He needs to have a high level of suave and arrogance, but still be a complete meat head. Most brahs are just meatheads with low level suave and replace arrogance with ignorance.

I would gladly spend five to ten hours with Master Chief, Marcus Phoenix, Captain Price, the dude from Killzone and whatever other "meatheads" you could be referring to over even a half hour with Duke Nukem. That character is fucking unbearable. He always has been and always will be.

You obviously have no fucking idea what your talking about if you'd rather spend 5 hours with Killzone 2 Rico, over Duke Nukem.

@HatKing said:

@MajorToms said:

I wonder how many copies of L.A. Noire have actually been sold. Every shop I go into has way too many copies sitting around.

Anyways, who thinks that Duke Nukem will be turned into a "Brah" character? He is the sort of chauvinistic jock of yesteryear, and that translates to the brahs of today. Dear god please don't be this silly Gearbox, Duke has more intelligence than the brahs of today. He needs to have a high level of suave and arrogance, but still be a complete meat head. Most brahs are just meatheads with low level suave and replace arrogance with ignorance.

I would gladly spend five to ten hours with Master Chief, Marcus Phoenix, Captain Price, the dude from Killzone and whatever other "meatheads" you could be referring to over even a half hour with Duke Nukem. That character is fucking unbearable. He always has been and always will be.

I wasn't actually referring to or thinking of any characters. I was referring to how Duke was adopted off of a real frame of mind that real people had back in those days. If you contrasted it to the people of today, his type of character would be best compared to one of the meat head morons on Jersey shore. I just hope theydon'tmodernize him in this way, is all.

I wonder how many copies of L.A. Noire have actually been sold. Every shop I go into has way too many copies sitting around.

Anyways, who thinks that Duke Nukem will be turned into a "Brah" character? He is the sort of chauvinistic jock of yesteryear, and that translates to the brahs of today. Dear god please don't be this silly Gearbox, Duke has more intelligence than the brahs of today. He needs to have a high level of suave and arrogance, but still be a complete meat head. Most brahs are just meatheads with low level suave and replace arrogance with ignorance.

Why anyone would buy this game is beyond me lol.

@Eyz said:

You know..it was obvious this would make money, quality or not. See, on the same subject, blockbuster movies nowadays... They don't need to make much sense, look polished or have good plot either!

The first Duke game didn't make much or have a good plot and it was still considered great.

Never bet against the Duke.  Everybody knows that.  You don't have to put
a gun to my head.  I'll tell you.  He's A #1.

if nothing else this proves that hype wins over good gaming any day of the week. *sigh*

I always thought that people carefully read about each game before deciding to purchase.

Yeah it's profitable for them because George Broussard funded it out of his own pocket for the longest time. It wasn't just T2's money.

Proof that most people will eat whatever feces you shovel into their mouths if you tell them it's cake!

Despite the hot mess on 360 of horrendous load time, texture streaming issues and bad framerates, I still played Duke to completion and enjoyed it- even played a second time to S rank it.  Sure it was kind of crap in places, but I think everyone was WAY too harsh in their opinions.  Yes, there are much better games out there, but it was a perfectly serviceable FPS with some unique weapons and a different tone than all the super serious military shooter prevalent right now.  Of course I'm not saying they're "wrong" (since you can't have a wrong opinion), but I personally found it a nice change of pace.
 
I think a big part of the problem is that Gearbox removed about half the levels from game because they weren't close enough to being "done" that they could be part of the quick polish job they did.  Chances are when the single player DLC lands and restores the missing levels and weapons it'll be a more complete game.

Profitable for Take-Two, yeah, maybe.  Profitable overall, taking into account the entire development process and all funds sunk into it from various sources?  No fucking chance. 

Glad to hear it. It was a damn good game. Period.

Woooo! Glad to see the lure of seeing how it turned out was enough for people to ignore reviews and actually check it out:) The game is janky as heck; I'll admit it. But that's part of the charm. A game in development that long, by that many dev teams, has to look like a "Frankenstein's monster" of a game. But at the end of the day, it's still fun. And does a decent job of marrying older-school (superior) late 90's FPS game design with newer school (worse), uber easy, uber linear design. 
 
I'm glad it's successful. Because Gearbox gets to make a brand new Duke Nukem now. Well, when they finish their current slate of Borderlands 2 (WOOOOO), Aliens: Colonial Marines (WOOOOO) and...another Brothers in Arms (ZZZzzzzz....eh, at least it's Inglourious Bastards-style, instead of boring old COD style WWII). Hail to the King, baby!

Fuck yeah.

Good. Gearbox took a huge risk and I'd hate to have seen them lose money on anything. Remember this money goes to Borderlands 2!!!!!

You know..it was obvious this would make money, quality or not. See, on the same subject, blockbuster movies nowadays... They don't need to make much sense, look polished or have good plot either!

Kudos to Gearbox for wrapping up the project successfully.

Where did Duke go wrong?

I had a lemon aid stand  that was 4 years in the making that made me a profit.

You know..it was obvious this would make money, quality or not.
See, on the same subject, blockbuster movies nowadays... They don't need to make much sense, look polished or have good plot either!

People really wanted a Duke Nukem Game, just too bad this one took so long and ended up being meh in the end.

I guess that that I am happy that Gearbox was able to get that game out, and as super interested that I am in the game, not $60 dollara interested! If they had released it for $19.99 I would have been all over it day one. Heck, even for $29.99, I would have probably picked it up right when it came out! Still can't wait to grab it on sale or even used eventually!

How will the next game in the series sell when it doesnt have the gimmicky "we spent 14 years to make this game"? Probaby really poorly.

You're right, now that I think about it, Gearbox is extremely busy for next year. No doubt Aliens: Colonial Marines will get delayed until 2013 which means we won't see another Duke game until at least 2015! Hooray for us!

I remember it being pretty high on the NPD list, but that game has been in development since I've been in Kindergarden (and I'm currently entering my second year of college). I'm really surprised they turned a profit.

so, if the next game gets made within a 2-4 year dev cycle, and is totally Self-referential like Jeff was suggesting, i'd be totally up for that.

While I didn't buy or play DNF, i'm excited by the prospect of a new Duke game being made, and if Gearbox is fully developing it, i'm kind of hopeful for it.

Hail to the bling, baby!

Considering the number of people who go to Michael Bay movies, listen to Ke$ha and watch Jersey Shore, I guess this isn't entirely surprising. Always bet on the bad taste of the general public.

@Crunchman said:

BUT AT WHAT COST?

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if transformers can make millions, why cant duke

Let's be clear, it wasn't really worth making, but after 3D Realms collapsed, it was worth finishing for Gearbox and Take Two. That's what this story is saying. If those two companies were saddled with the costs from before they picked it up, it would have been disastrous.

@ryanwho said:

I have a hard time believing they account for the salary of every person who worked on this over the past 12+ years when measuring their gains.

They don't, of course. Randy bought the game in almost finished form for a song.

I'm very proud to say I did not buy it. Nope, I spent my money on Brink instead... yeah, totally didn't get shafted there.

It was an event...they won't be fooled again

Cool, a squeal would be cool. Most cool, uber cool if you will.

If done right Duke Nukem could be hilarious and fun to play, just a shame DNF wasn't.

There is no God.

We live in a world where Adam Sandler movies make bank. This can't be a surprise.

That can't be good for Take-Two if they weren't profitable this quarter despite 4 million sales of LA Noire. At what point do they tell Rockstar to push the finish on the next GTA?

i am rather supprised with this i meen it was in development for about 12 years thats gotta be costly and the reviews were pritty negative :\