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Diablo III to Feature Real Money Auction House for In-Game Items

The countdown to the first bankruptcy claim by a Diablo III player begins now.

It's no secret that Blizzard has struggled over the years with World of Warcraft and its various players/illicit sources making money off items featured in the game. Be it gold farmers in China, dudes selling swords on eBay, or whatever else, the demand for the sweetest of loot is high enough to where people are willing to plunk down actual cash money to get it.

Now, it sounds like Blizzard has figured out how to get in on the action.

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Blizzard today officially unveiled its plans for item transactions within the world of its upcoming action RPG, Diablo III. Similar to World of Warcraft, players will be able to use in-game gold to put items they collect up for sale via an in-game auction house--unlike WoW, however, they will also be able to put up items for cold, hard cash.

The system uses the same player-to-player auction model as the gold-based auction house, but, you know...for money. Each region will have its own respective currency, and players who sell items will have the option to keep the money in their Battle.net account for future transactions, or cash out entirely via a currently unknown third-party provider.

How does Blizzard make money on this whole process? By taking "nominal" fees, evidently. Blizzard will take a flat fee from the sale price of every transaction, and will also take a fee if you opt to cash out.

The question of the legality of such a system does immediately present itself, especially given the American government's recent crackdown on similar systems employed by online poker sites. Granted, those companies were skirting US gambling law by using offshore companies to house and transfer players' funds, but Blizzard's system does seem on the bleeding edge of what the government is generally okay with when it comes to online fund transfers. In speaking to Joystiq, Blizzard's Rob Pardo did have an explanation for how they plan to try and keep this all above board.

If there's a legal issue at all, it's likely in the "cash out" option. Blizzard is transferring some of the responsibility to the third-party provider and, in order to do that, players will need to choose, right away at time of sale, whether they want to keep the money in Battle.net, or take it out to cash with that extra percentage fee going to the third-party provider. Any money left in the system needs to stay there. Players won't be able to cash it out at any point in the future, except by buying Blizzard products and services. "We're not a bank," says Pardo. "We don't want to deal with all of those additional regulations. So that's going to be the responsibility of our third-party payment provider."

That Joystiq preview features a much longer conversation with Pardo that makes for fascinating reading if you want to learn about how Blizzard plans to make this whole scheme work.

Gotta ask it: How many of you out there would use a system like this? Are you "hardcore" enough to pay cash for the sweetest of loots? Or is in-game gold more-than-sufficient for your play style?

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Bobby Kotick: Come, boy, see for yourself. From here, you will witness the final destruction of your fan base and the end of your insignificant reputation.

[Blizzard employee's eyes go to his frostmourne replica]

Bobby Kotick:You want this, don't you? The hate is swelling in you now. Take your Lich King weapon. Use it. I am unarmed. Strike me down with it. Give in to your anger. With each passing micro-transaction you make yourself more my servant.

Blizzard Employee: No.

Bobby Kotick: It is unavoidable. It is your destiny. You, like Infinity Ward, are now mine.

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@Coreymw said:

@Khann: That's assuming Blizzard doesn't find a way to make using the fake money auction house just as lucrative as the real money auction house. Regardless of who their in bed with, Blizzard are still the best when it comes to balance.

How could they make something that is purely dealing in fake money be just as lucrative to gold farmers as something that deals in real money....?

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@PenguinDust said:
The question I have is will all the "purples" be sold for real-world cash leaving nothing but "greens" for the virtual currency auction house?  Would that put getting really good items in the hands of those willing to pay real money only?  I'm not sure how fair that is since it turns the cash driven auction house into a privileged-only store.   This is what happens in the F2P MMOs I've seen.  
My fears exactly. If no one will sell for in-game currency, then where does this leave us?
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Does this mean I could hypothetically quit my day job and get rich by playing Diablo 3 and selling in-game items instead?

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@Khann: I don't know. That's why they are the best. They wouldn't create a real money market and not find a way to balance it because they know what would happen. They know that people gravitate towards real money. They've been doing this for a very long time, they aren't going to (I hope) release a game where an in-game currency market isn't used. It would be a waste of resources on their part. This is obviously all conjecture.

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@Tordah said:
Does this mean I could hypothetically quit my day job and get rich by playing Diablo 3 and selling in-game items instead?
That sounds like a future that leads to you dying from a blood clot after not moving for 12 hours in a row.
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@Coreymw said:

@Khann: , Blizzard are still the best when it comes to balance.

Bwhahahaha! sorry that made my day, unless you meant their Checkbook.
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I don't like where this is going.

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@Sinful: After I wrote that and clicked the post reply button, I realized my mistake. They may not be the best, but they are still very good at it.

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If I ever find an item that sells for a few hundred bucks I'd totally sell it and just use whatever slightly less good weapon I was already using.

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Man this is gross. I don't mind the micropayments for stuff in TF2 since their impact on the game is fairly minor, and the guns are all fairly easily obtained in-game, but items in D3 are key. And with Blizzard claiming there is a larger pvp component to the game, this just sounds like a baaaad idea.

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RMT has always been a big reason why people cheat in games (by botting, hacking, etc).  Now that it is officially sanctioned and completely legal, watch as cheating becomes even more rampant.  I don't see how RMT is anything but inherently bad for games.
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@ryanwho said:
@Binman88 said:
I actually think this is kinda awesome. The game will still behave exactly as people hoped, with the added option to buy and sell in game items. If you choose to ignore it, this will have absolutely no bearing on your experience whatsoever.
Except that the people who utilize it will be on the same server as you when you play online. Would it be acceptable for someone to be able to buy some kind of rocket launcher for COD and make no distinction between people who purchased the OP item and people who didn't? Would that have no bearing on the experience, being mixed in with people who basically always win PvP cus they spent more real money? You guys are pulling at threads here. Like beaten wives, these apologists.
it's 4-player max and co-op only, if this was diablo 2 your complaints would be totally valid though. and i'm pretty sure it's disabled in hardcore/pvp
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As a former WoW player who would sometimes sit with a level 80 character, 10 gold to my name and gear that wouldn't get me into the dungeons where I could earn the real money, the idea of being able to buy a great shield for real cash is another reminder of why I'm so glad I'm not playing WoW anymore.

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If the AH in WoW is any clue to the future of D3's then its going to suck badly.
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"Capitalism, ho!"

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I predict the GB crew barely speaking about this on the Bombcast, and what little speaking they do will be insults to those who have a problem with it.

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I don't see the problem here. You could already buy items for Diablo 2 with real money.

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I don't like the direction these companies are taking with games. Today's games are incomplete betas due the company's agenda to nickle and dim us to death to gt the complete experience. 

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Let me guess Activision is going to get money from each transaction.

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I have no issues with this. Starcraft 2 has a shop where you can sell mods and maps for real money or give them away. Blizzard knows the same thing that happend with Diablo 2 will happen again . So why not give players as safe way to do it.

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@Chavtheworld said:
The fact that there's another auction house that doesn't use real money makes me think this isn't a problem.
one problem, anyone who finds something truly valuable and rare who also is not stupid will not sell it on the normal auction house will they? 
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blizzard sticking it to d2jsp
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Well... at least Diablo 3 isn't an MMO?  I guess?  Except that it still sort of is, so, this feels really weird to me... This seems like it could go real bad.

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least Blizzard is not selling gold/item themself, yet

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@Khann said:

I predict the GB crew barely speaking about this on the Bombcast, and what little speaking they do will be insults to those who have a problem with it.

I don't think even Brad would have the gall to go "look they have to make money, haters gonna hate". You have to be super fargone to see this as a good thing. I think Brad and Vinny will both kinda sorta not care for it, someone might say "its optional", which isn't something anyone who's ever played a PvP multiplayer game could ever say with a straight face, then they'll both admit that this won't keep them from buying it. I don't see them shitting on the fans other than Ryan who just likes having a reason to do it regardless. In fact, I could see this really ticking one of them off possibley. Maybe Jeff? For people used to Diablo 2 online and PSO and things like that, its really hard to acclimate to whatever the hell Activision and Blizzard are trying to turn online into. 
 
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"How does Blizzard make money on this whole process? By taking "nominal" fees, evidently. Blizzard will take a flat fee from the sale price of every transaction, and will also take a fee if you opt to cash out."
 
This game better suddenly be fucking Free to Play then, if not, Blizzard can kiss my ass on this one.

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Time to make some paper, Diablo style!

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@Khann said:

I predict the GB crew barely speaking about this on the Bombcast, and what little speaking they do will be insults to those who have a problem with it.

Yeah probably. I always cringe when they talk about Diablo because they get most stuff wrong. Can't blame them though, it's an old game and I'm into it a lot more than a majority of people.
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@ryanwho said:

@Khann said:

I predict the GB crew barely speaking about this on the Bombcast, and what little speaking they do will be insults to those who have a problem with it.

I don't think even Brad would have the gall to go "look they have to make money, haters gonna hate". You have to be super fargone to see this as a good thing. I think Brad and Vinny will both kinda sorta not care for it, someone might say "its optional", which isn't something anyone who's ever played a PvP multiplayer game could ever say with a straight face, then they'll both admit that this won't keep them from buying it. I don't see them shitting on the fans other than Ryan who just likes having a reason to do it regardless. In fact, I could see this really ticking one of them off possibley. Maybe Jeff? For people used to Diablo 2 online and PSO and things like that, its really hard to acclimate to whatever the hell Activision and Blizzard are trying to turn online into.

Yep, fair call. I'd say that's a pretty spot on assessment.

I am having a really hard time enjoying anything about the direction this industry is going.

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Well this is dumb.

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@Khann said:

I am having a really hard time enjoying anything about the direction this industry is going.

i just hate that in 10-15 years, i'll have to play weird gutted or not even functional versions of most of the games i own, because their online service shut down or something, and there's no way to get it going lan/tunneled with third party software, because piracy.
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As long as there are tradable/sellable items, there will be a 3rd party black market.  Because WoW doesn't let you buy gold, there is a market for it.  Which is dodgy and leads to things like accounts being hacked to steal all their goods. Which is a drain on time and resources for both players and companies.  By condoning the act, the companies cut way down on it.  they won't likely eliminate it buut by giving players a safe easy way to access it, they will minimize the negative impact 3rd parties have on the game.  This is something players want, if players didn't want it, all the foreign sellers would go out of business.  The payers who don't want it are free to not use it. 

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Wow... I'm about this close [ ] to just giving up on video games if shit like this being in ever dam game is what to expect from this point on. I'm sick and fucking tired of being nickle an dimmed in every god dam game. I honestly can;t remember the last time I got to buy a game that was complete and not had some parts of it cut for DLC.

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this is disgusting, well im not buying the game now lol

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The more I see and hear of Diablo 3 the less I want to play it. Dungeon crawlers don't interest me anymore...

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The cold hard truth is that this system WILL exist, no matter what. Blizzard is just accepting it and getting it organized as opposed to spending resources trying to fight it. It's like if the government legalized pot and taxed it, or rather if game companies realized people WILL ALWAYS pirate their game and figured out some alternative to DRM lockout systems.

I'm more upset about always needing a internet connection to play.

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@ryanwho said:
 You guys are pulling at threads here. Like beaten wives, these apologists.
Man gets upset on the internet and starts using inappropriate hyperbole. News at 11.
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@ryanwho said:

@Khann said:

I predict the GB crew barely speaking about this on the Bombcast, and what little speaking they do will be insults to those who have a problem with it.

I don't think even Brad would have the gall to go "look they have to make money, haters gonna hate". You have to be super fargone to see this as a good thing. I think Brad and Vinny will both kinda sorta not care for it, someone might say "its optional", which isn't something anyone who's ever played a PvP multiplayer game could ever say with a straight face, then they'll both admit that this won't keep them from buying it. I don't see them shitting on the fans other than Ryan who just likes having a reason to do it regardless. In fact, I could see this really ticking one of them off possibley. Maybe Jeff? For people used to Diablo 2 online and PSO and things like that, its really hard to acclimate to whatever the hell Activision and Blizzard are trying to turn online into. I like speaking for people I don't know.

What do you mean by 'super fargone'? You made an extremely oblique rant about your problems with the GB personalities but forgot to put the part in where you told me why you think this is a bad thing. What is Actibliz 'trying to turn online into'?

Because it looks like they are just taking the grey market that already exists for virtual items and codifying it. If they were directly selling high end loot for money that would be a little different.

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"If there's a legal issue at all, it's likely in the "cash out" option. Blizzard is transferring some of the responsibility to the third-party provider and, in order to do that, players will need to choose, right away at time of sale, whether they want to keep the money in Battle.net, or take it out to cash with that extra percentage fee going to the third-party provider. Any money left in the system needs to stay there. Players won't be able to cash it out at any point in the future, except by buying Blizzard products and services. "We're not a bank," says Pardo. "We don't want to deal with all of those additional regulations. So that's going to be the responsibility of our third-party payment provider."

Someone should ask Blizzard if they will have to sign up with that "third party" company in order to get your cash, I.E. linking a checking/credit account to them ect.

Yet another service you're tethered to in order to enjoy a simple game.

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@Mumrik said:

"How does Blizzard make money on this whole process? By taking "nominal" fees, evidently. Blizzard will take a flat fee from the sale price of every transaction, and will also take a fee if you opt to cash out." This game better suddenly be fucking Free to Play then, if not, Blizzard can kiss my ass on this one.

heh ... there is no chance in hell this is going to be F2P

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My initial reaction was a confused one. I can see both pros and cons but as of now I'm mostly concerned about ninja looting and buying top gear for an unfair advantage in PvP. Finding a really rare ring and knowing "shit, I could make actual money with this one" does sound kind of interesting.

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@Buzzkill: THIS LOOKS SHOPPED. I CAN TELL FROM SOME OF THE PIXELS AND FROM SEEING QUITE A FEW SHOPS IN MY TIME.
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I don't really have a major issue with this, but I don't see why anybody would put items on the in-game money AH, everyone is just going to try their luck for real money on any item they find. I don't have a problem with it, but I'm certainly worried about it.

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I will never use this feature, but it's great that it's there.

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It doesn't impede my gameplay experience. Whatevs'.
I suppose the best stuff is BoP (bind on pickup) anyways. Whatevs'.
And PvP will be a joke either way. Whatevs'.
As long as they don't fuck me with this. Whatevs'.
 
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@valrog: Yep it took 5 seconds and MS paint lol. The message from the picture is its relation to the quote. Essentially Blizzard wants to be "hands-off" in any respect to ending up in the jam PayPal was before it was considered a bank. So Blizz's bright idea is to create sort of a CoinStar feature where you dump your tickets in the bin, the machine offers you credit or cash ect. This just leads me to concerns over how easy is it for criminals to exploit that third party company over the gaming giant that is Blizzard ect, is their security better ect, and last but not least SHOPPING MALLS INSIDE VIDEO GAMES WTF? IT'S JUST A FREAKING GAME. I log in to have fun, not go shopping. Don't you?

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I'd rather not be fucked over when my ISP has a hiccup while playing my single-player game.