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E3 Needs to Grow Up

Despite a growing call for change, the organizers of E3 have no plans to address the booth babe issue at the industry's biggest show.

I'm sure these women are well versed in the talking points for Namco Bandai's upcoming fighting game.
I'm sure these women are well versed in the talking points for Namco Bandai's upcoming fighting game.

There’s been no shortage of discussion about women and video games this past week.

The conversation’s been driven by the gross response to Anita Sarkeesian’s nearly finished Kickstarter about the unfortunate and exclusionary tropes of female video game characters, and the quickly scrutinized comments from a producer on Tomb Raider about a potential rape scene (a description the studio has walked back) in the new game.

These are all good, uncomfortable conversations to have, but if we're talking about the depiction of women in games at such a serious level, how do we still have E3 booth babes? Other than for easy hits in web galleries, anyway.

The commonly referred to booth babe (also known as a "woman") is hired solely to wear skimpy clothing with a game or company’s logo and take photographs with attendees (who does that, by the way?). Typically, they are not well versed in the product they are hired to represent.

It seemed like a good time to check in with the Entertainment Software Association, who manages E3.

Despite some of the recent heated conversation, there are no plans to shift E3 policies.

"Exhibitors determine for themselves what is the best representation for their companies. Models are welcome if companies would like to have them, but that's an individual exhibitor decision,” said ESA VP of media relations and event management Dan Hewitt in an emailed statement to me yesterday.

Ghost Recon Commander designer Brenda Brathwaite sparked a vocal debate on Twitter over booth babes before she headed to the E3 show floor last Thursday.

“I dread heading off to work at E3 today,” she said. “The show is a constant assault on the female self esteem no matter which direction I look. I am in good shape, yet it is impossible not to compare. I feel uncomfortable. It is as if I walked into a strip club w/o intending to. These are the policies of @e3expo and @RichatESA. I feel uncomfortable in an industry I helped found.”

Her comments found plenty of support, such as Inside Network managing editor AJ Glasser.

@br The worst is when I get so good at seeing right through it that I forget they're actually women underneath the barely-there clothes.

— AJ Glasser (@Joygirl007) June 7, 2012

It’s not a new critique, but it was louder this year, and there seems to be a growing desire for change.

There was also the usual “what’s the big deal?” responses, including 3D Realms co-founder George Broussard.

@br I think you/others take it too seriously. It's not some academic event. It's a glitz show full of spectacle. #serious_business

— George Broussard (@georgeb3dr) June 7, 2012

It’s been a few years, but the ESA policy on booth babes has changed from E3's inception. The last major shift came in 2006, as new penalties, fines and policies were introduced regarding women featured in E3 exhibits.

"What's new in 2006 is an update and clarification of the enforcement policies; as we do from time to time, we have taken steps to ensure that exhibitors are familiar with the policy and how it will be enforced," said E3 show director Mary Dolaher to Reuters at the time.

A violation of the clothing policy would result in, at first, a warning, and then a $5,000 fine. Here’s what the handbook from 2006 said to exhibitors considering booth babes--er, sorry, live models:

"Material, including live models, conduct that is sexually explicit and/or sexually provocative, including but not limited to nudity, partial nudity and bathing suit bottoms, are prohibited on the show floor, all common areas, and at any access points to the show."

Hewitt told me there have been no changes to ESA policy since 2006.

Maybe there should be. Consider this anecdote that didn’t even take place on the show floor itself.

This was one of the first results the search term
This was one of the first results the search term "Devil May Cry strippers" gave me, sorry.

We arrived to our Capcom appointment, I plunked down with Lost Planet 3, and Alex Navarro was ushered over to play Devil May Cry. In a room of kiosks, there were pole dancers. It’s unclear what that has to do with Devil May Cry. The girl hired to skimpily waltz around was sitting on the floor, looking bored. Everyone in the room is focused on playing the game, and Alex wasn't playing Devil May Cry in a see-through bubble. No one on the show floor could see this room. Can someone explain how this helps anyone do their job?

Elsewhere, I refused to play any 3DS games at Nintendo’s booth because the company didn’t have a table with machines, and instead tethered its lineup to attractive women. I let that gimmick slide when Nintendo pulled the same trick at the original 3DS unveiling, but I’ll just wait until those games are out now, thanks.

Nintendo probably thought it was a cute idea. I doubt (and this is my sincere hope) Nintendo meant to undermine the credibility of women at gaming’s biggest show. It's still ignorance. Many of the issues regarding women and E3 aren’t overtly offensive, and can be easily rationalized by those who don’t see a problem.

That’s okay--we should have a debate about it.

And this is all hardly an issue that’s exclusive to games. The same week as E3, the Computex Summit was happening in Taipei, and computer manufacturer ASUS sent out the following tweet:

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That tweet has since been deleted and ASUS released an apology, obviously.

I can gripe all I want, but the most effective solution has to come from the ESA itself. Only the ESA can enforce regulations on exhibitors, and let them know this archaic marketing tool needs to go away. If games are growing up, so does the way we go about advertising them in front of, ostensibly, a bunch of professional. This isn’t 1994.

PAX figured this out years ago, even if there have been incidents along the way (i.e. Lollipop Chainsaw at PAX East).

“Our definition of a ‘booth babe’ has been a model (male or female) that has been hired to stand/sit in skimpy clothing to market the product,” said Penny Arcade president of business development in 2010. “If that person knows the product inside and out then it’s less of an issue. A company representative that can interact with attendees in a way that provides value as opposed to ‘hey stare at my body’ is something that we encourage whether or not that representative is physically attractive or not.”

If E3 is supposed to represent the industry’s best, why can’t it figure out how to respect its own attendees?

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I don't care for "booth babes" but I also don't care for the way many of the women I see in public dress. During the summer, it's very common to see them in booty shorts and a tight tank tops. Guess what? People love shit like that. It's their business. If companies want to objectify women and women want to objectify themselves that's their business. Stop with the holier than thou, pretentious nonsense.

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@YukoAsho said:

@Marokai said:

While I think there`s plenty of blame to go around for all the controversy (journalists who are complicit, sites that abuse it for pageviews, etc etc) I find the idea that Giant Bomb should just be our wacky entertainment puppets to be kind of gross. This site is supposedly be funny and pleasant and entertaining, but it`s also not meant to be just a more goofy Gamespot. Giant Bomb has always had a deeper and more opinionated edge, and that should never go away.

While I agree that deep, concise stuff is great for the site, GB can't go low-brow one moment and high-brow when it wants to join the angry mob. Sorry, but if your editorial content (and that's what most of the site's content, from articles to quick looks to TNTs, is) is all over the fucking place, you should be called out for it, and GB is wildly inconsistent when they endorse a game that revels in vulgarity while waggling the fingers at booth babes.

I bowed out of the conversation in favor of sleep last night, but thanks for what you wrote. Your reply was to the heart of what I was getting at.

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Sex sells plan and simple, and plus whats the problem with providing people with jobs even if they don't "get it" or whatever, people need to stop being so pretentious and just realize it's a part of society and honestly booth babes exist cross genres via sports, beverages, etc. so for anyone to think that these booth babes are a serious problem in the gaming culture need to rethink their position or grow up

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you know what's funny? grown men who play video games telling the video game industry to grow up

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@YukoAsho said:

@Marokai said:

While I think there`s plenty of blame to go around for all the controversy (journalists who are complicit, sites that abuse it for pageviews, etc etc) I find the idea that Giant Bomb should just be our wacky entertainment puppets to be kind of gross. This site is supposedly be funny and pleasant and entertaining, but it`s also not meant to be just a more goofy Gamespot. Giant Bomb has always had a deeper and more opinionated edge, and that should never go away.

While I agree that deep, concise stuff is great for the site, GB can't go low-brow one moment and high-brow when it wants to join the angry mob. Sorry, but if your editorial content (and that's what most of the site's content, from articles to quick looks to TNTs, is) is all over the fucking place, you should be called out for it, and GB is wildly inconsistent when they endorse a game that revels in vulgarity while waggling the fingers at booth babes.

Vulgarity does not equal an endorsement of sexism and misogyny.

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I bet if you had girls stand around in Burqas people would be even angrier, claiming that they are just afraid of the female body or some stupid crap like that.

Booth babes arent a completely awful thing to have, but it should at least be done more tastefully. At least make them know about the game.

The screenshot of the asus tweet gets to me though, thats a pretty funny joke i think even a woman would say is no big deal. And the girl is in proper attire. Thats proof that some people take things way too seriously.

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Really, REALLY disappointed with the GB community on this. There's lots of really awful places on the internet where you can go be the worst, don't do it here.

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Booth babes are paid to do a job. So we should campaign to put them out of work?

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I just think this is a good reminder about how mature this sites coverage of E3 has been the last few years. Not that I want it to change (I'd say most of us actually love it), but criticizing "the industry" for the immaturity is getting old.

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Whatever guys, don't use this as a forum to shit all over Patrick and Giant Bomb because you can. Just because a lot of us don't agree with the views of this article doesn't mean you can just dump all over everything else and make the fight about something else. Just stop it, guys.

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@Socialone said:

You mean to say the video game industry should aim to be more mature than other fields of entertainment such as professional sports, motorized racing, Hollywood cinematography and major musical labels by putting an end to machismo in its products and expositions?

Good luck with that.

Exactly. Like it or not modeling is a profession. To compare Games with another large industry, Automotive shows also have attractive females posing next to inanimate objects. Consumer electronics shows, particularly in Asia, also have ladies showing off the latest stuff. When E3 returned to the big spectacle showcase for gaming this is the stuff that should be expected. Maybe tighten up the dress code a little, but objecting to models at a trade show is hypocritical horseshit.

The ESA should make a decision. Is E3 a large spectacle with huge expensive booths and ladies showing off video games? Or is it a serious summit between the media and publishers akin to the 07 and 08 shows. Can't have it both ways.

I kinda wish it were 1994, where we didn't have this "games journalism" thing.

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@Napalm said:

Whatever guys, don't use this as a forum to shit all over Patrick and Giant Bomb because you can. Just because a lot of us don't agree with the views of this article doesn't mean you can just dump all over everything else and make the fight about something else. Just stop it, guys.

If the topic is brought up, you get people arguing over the various elements and angles of that topic. The nature of games journalism and the coverage of the industry at large is a big part of the overall topic that is being brought up here specifically because Patrick basically just ignored that side of it entirely. The "journalists" in this industry share a large part of the blame, and I don't see why that part of this controversy is forbidden, apparently. It's not as if their feelings are going to be hurt, or something.

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been asking this question for weeks, about how woman are portrayed and treated in the video game scene, and how it makes no sense that sexism is allowed to run rampant... even though there are many woman in the video games industry and many who play.

It is disgusting and appalling; i thought we were better than this.

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when i saw the lollipop chainsaw chick at pax in that pink suit i nearly shit myself. definitely a little less coverage than what i would consider appropriate but that's an extreme example. it's the same thing with auto shows and other events where there's plenty of women in skimpy outfits selling/promoting stuff. i don't see that big of an issue tho... and i think it has been blown out of proportion slightly. there are much worse ways women are objectified and most of the booth babes i've run into seemed to be having a great time. fucking relax people, women... they exist.

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@EXCellR8 said:

when i saw the lollipop chainsaw chick at pax in that pink suit i nearly shit myself. definitely a little less coverage than what i would consider appropriate but that's an extreme example. it's the same thing with auto shows and other events where there's plenty of women in skimpy outfits selling/promoting stuff. i don't see that big of an issue tho... and i think it has been blown out of proportion slightly. there are much worse ways women are objectified and most of the booth babes i've run into seemed to be having a great time. fucking relax people, women... they exist.

She makes those costumes herself. If she's comfortable wearing them and representing the game then who are you to judge what is or isn't appropriate? That was a rhetorical question by the way.

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@CaptStickybeard said:

@Gerhabio said:

silly variations on "sexism doesn't exist anymore/ it's just a video game/ it happens to men too"

Are you somehow implying that it doesn't happen to men too?

Look, this is exactly my point. Men get really defensive. Yes, it happens to men too. It does. But for whatever reason, people think the opression of one group somehow negates the opression of another, which is ridiculous. Too negatives only make a positive in math. Men (and conservative women) get super defensive whenever sexism is mentioned, as if they were annoyed by the obstacles of others! As if it were a burden to be more privileged than others. It happens to men too but that is no excuse to not pay attention ot the objectification of women in the media, something they are disproportionately victims of.

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@Napalm said:

Whatever guys, don't use this as a forum to shit all over Patrick and Giant Bomb because you can. Just because a lot of us don't agree with the views of this article doesn't mean you can just dump all over everything else and make the fight about something else. Just stop it, guys.

When people stop white knighting then maybe people won't dump all over them, and this includes both Klepek and many forum users here.

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The Booth babes are fucking Creepy every year I go I avoid them as much as possible. They are paid to flirt with you putt on way more make up than they should and it so artificial and fake it is like I am being subtly being hit on by a plastic fucking robot. It is not sexy at all it does the opposite effect.

nintendo is the worst because they strap crap to these paid fake babes that are paid to flirt with you and you can add on top of that they have a fucking video game hardware strapped on there body with a cheep chain like device it makes it 12 times more creepy and uncomfortable.

The chicks at fucking hooters Also creepy as fuck that Is why I went there once with some guy who talked me into it and never went back again.

Oh and most of the women game DEVS that are making the games are way more sexy than those booth babes anyway and smarter.

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I say tell the ESA to lift the booth babes from arriving at E3 because we love attractive women. I don't know how they couldn't change any rules, but we need the booth babes back to E3. It's what every video game geek wants. Whether it's PAX, or Comic-Con, or TGS, we know incidents is not a problem (just like the cosplay of Juliet Starling in Lollipop Chainsaw) but to me I think the ESA is gone a little too far about the ruling of booth babes.

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@Damien_Azreal said:

Seems some have forgotten that a few years ago... they did away with Booth Babes at E3 because of complaints like this.

Then, at the next E3... all the press did was complain that the show floor was boring. That the booths looked empty and uninviting. They then began talking about how the booth babes weren't objectifying women.

And they were all happy the next year when Booth Babes were back.

Seems we've gone full circle again and a lot of the press have forgotten the stupidity from a few years ago.

The stopping the "booth babe" nonsense part was fine and needed there was just many other rules also that it became "boring". You can have all the noise music and whatever but they threw out the good with the "bad".

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@Napalm said:

Whatever guys, don't use this as a forum to shit all over Patrick and Giant Bomb because you can. Just because a lot of us don't agree with the views of this article doesn't mean you can just dump all over everything else and make the fight about something else. Just stop it, guys.

Pretty much this. it's why I pulled out of the conversation because (as fucking always) it descended into shit talking and back biting.

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You know what this all is. You got your Anti-feminist girls who pretty much wish they had the power and equal stature of man in this world and then the white knights who get defensive/offensive over the slightest things.

Why must something be eradicated just cause it makes you and some others uncomfortable and feel it looks bad for women when not everyone feels that way. Even said women. Your opinion is not universal.

The slandering of the female gender and vocal superiority of men is the problem. None of which happened at E3.

But no. All of yal who side with Torch-man Patrick believe you speak for victims... Plz. Its cause of people like you that this world has sooo many major problems. You overblow borderline issues yet won't act upon the major issue solving as feverishly.

Fuck your morals. They're just one-sided ideals you don't care to understand within the broad scope of the issue.

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@SharkMan: How were women treated poorly at E3? You brought it up here so I presume you mean to apply women were hurt by men in any kind of form at E3. Those women were given the oppertunity at a job, they took it knowing what they would be doing, and did their jobs and earned money. Some love doing stuff like that. It's a career believe it or not and it's up to them to decide if wearing attractive clothing is sexism or not. The ones that accepted the jobs know thats all it is. They weren't told to be whores. They were their not to be paraded but to entertain and draw faces people.... And it worked considering PAtrick was apparently inspired so much by clothed pairs of boobs that he made this garbage of an article.

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A couple years ago I went to one of those 3DS pre-release customer previews hosted by Nintendo. It was hosted and run exclusively by attractive women. I'm not saying women can't run these events, but when you have people mispronouncing basic Nintendoisms, like pronouncing Mii as "My," it's clear that they're reciting from a learned script they've only read and never had spoken to them.

It made me real uncomfortable during the bits where you had to observe stuff instead of actually having hands-on time with the thing and I left as soon as I was able to, didn't play a single demo station.

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@dekkadekkadekka: Well the fault falls on the booth babes for not studying their craft and not the organizers. Nothing wrong with the organizers wanting booth babes, but both parties could try harder in aqua-mating things better. No sexism there though.

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Do you come with the game?

Edit: Yeah I know. This must have been posted at least 10 times before I got here.

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@Socialone said:

You mean to say the video game industry should aim to be more mature than other fields of entertainment such as professional sports, motorized racing, Hollywood cinematography and major musical labels by putting an end to machismo in its products and expositions?

Good luck with that.

Ding ding! This is a waste of bandwith. And if it really does offend you? Take some advice:

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I think people are getting a little off course talking feminism and the objectifying of women.

The point that, I think Patrick is trying to make, is that these booth babes are representing a company or product that they don't know much about in many cases. The problem that he is pointing out is not necessarily that they are scantily-clad, but that they are poorly representing, directly and indirectly, the products, and in some cases even distracting from the product.

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@Milpool said:

I think people are getting a little off course talking feminism and the objectifying of women.

The point that, I think Patrick is trying to make, is that these booth babes are representing a company or product that they don't know much about in many cases. The problem that he is pointing out is not necessarily that they are scantily-clad, but that they are poorly representing, directly and indirectly, the products, and in some cases even distracting from the product.

So if you were at a fashion show and saw something you liked would you talk to the model who was wearing it or the designer?

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@Vorbis: Ugh. Booth dudes. Gross.

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If E3 needs to "grow up", then so do the TV, movie, and music industries.

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As someone who isn't a journalist I'd just like to say that I really like boobs and also that sexy women have never made me buy or enjoy a game more than I would have otherwise.

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@Milpool said:

I think people are getting a little off course talking feminism and the objectifying of women.

The point that, I think Patrick is trying to make, is that these booth babes are representing a company or product that they don't know much about in many cases. The problem that he is pointing out is not necessarily that they are scantily-clad, but that they are poorly representing, directly and indirectly, the products, and in some cases even distracting from the product.

Yes, because Usher is totally a proper representation of the audience he performed for. Oh wait, Patrick didn't talk about Usher.

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Sorry but even as someone who's a fan of equal rights and not objectifying anybody, I do not see what is wrong with having pretty women who choose to show up and get paid to be pretty being in these booths.

Isn't telling them "you can't do this here" the same as telling them they can't work at the job they have chosen to do, because they are pretty and female. And isn't that more chauvinist and objectifying than allowing them?

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Breaking White Knights News: if you don't agree with Patrick, you don't get it. Thanks for the laugh, guys.

Professionalism is one thing I think hasn't been brought up yet. This is a blog, but is categorised as a news article. Where is the unbiased reporting? Covering both sides of the argument? You have no testimony from an actual booth babe. The amount of disrespect -- practically dehumanisation of booth babes as she-devils in this article is sexist as fuck and no respect is given to what they might think, ostensibly because Patrick thinks they're all brainless bimbos.

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Do the games lack that much content that they have to get the booth babes out?

Booth babes don't make me want to go out a buy a game.

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I dont see what they have to do with games, so why are they here? Only to attract attention of the mainly male audience. Just like a huge billboard or loud music. I think game companies should attract peoples attention through great games and big news, but on the other hand its so much easier to just buy a pair of loud speaker and rent some booth babes....

So here is my conclusion: Forbid those attraction amplifiers and the companies are forced to create great products!

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@smcn said:

2012 rolls on as the most embarrassing year for people who like video games and aren't manchildren.

I'm a manchild and I'm pretty embarassed.

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Breaking White Knights News: if you don't agree with Patrick, you don't get it. Thanks for the laugh, guys.

Professionalism is one thing I think hasn't been brought up yet. This is a blog, but is categorised as a news article. Where is the unbiased reporting? Covering both sides of the argument? You have no testimony from an actual booth babe. The amount of disrespect -- practically dehumanisation of booth babes as she-devils in this article is sexist as fuck and no respect is given to what they might think, ostensibly because Patrick thinks they're all brainless bimbos.

Fucking thank you. I am so sick of Patrick's LiveJournal becoming the front page, especially when it's bullshit like this. After all the crap this week about feminist Kickstarters and the "sexist" Tomb Raider games, Patrick goes on to write about how these women are clearly just eye candy and know nothing about video games.

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Regardless of my feelings on this issue which I won't bother stating here, I will say that between articles like this, the Worth Reading feature and Patrick's sensationalist headline ("Why Telltale's Knocking on Death Door"), I feel like GiantBomb is becoming PatrickKlepeck.com. I'm not one of those "Patrick haters" who comments negatively on any of his posts although I have often pointed out typos in his articles just because I'm anal about stuff like that. But I would prefer visiting this site if I were exposed to a variety of features by different people on staff. Lately it feels, as the previous commenter noted, like Patrick's "LiveJournal." If anyone on staff sees this comment, please take it to heart. For me, part of the annoyance of this article has nothing to do with its content per se, it's the fact that GiantBomb is becoming a vehicle for Patrick to dispense (his usually un-proofread!) mini-editorials.

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"E3 NEEDS TO GROW UP! I'M SO TIRED OF THE SHAMELESS ATTENTION SEEKING!"

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If the E3 responsables don't intend to change this, the best response might be to parallelly deploy also more sparsely clothed booth boys at the stands: aren't there more and more female gamers out there who might appreciate...?

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Oh! Cry me a river! You all act like the girls are stupid kids that doesn't know what they are doing. It's their JOB. They were fully aware that this is part of the modelling career, when they ACTIVELY pursued it. They get paid hansomely for it, and they like showing themselves off. And you know what, they probably care a lot less than you guys do. It's actually sexist of you to presume that these are bothered by it. They aren't slave kids! They are profesionals!! Now stop the condescending attitude and appreciate the beautiful bodies they WANT to show you!

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@EnduranceFun said:

Breaking White Knights News: if you don't agree with Patrick, you don't get it. Thanks for the laugh, guys.

Professionalism is one thing I think hasn't been brought up yet. This is a blog, but is categorised as a news article. Where is the unbiased reporting? Covering both sides of the argument? You have no testimony from an actual booth babe. The amount of disrespect -- practically dehumanisation of booth babes as she-devils in this article is sexist as fuck and no respect is given to what they might think, ostensibly because Patrick thinks they're all brainless bimbos.

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Sorry but even as someone who's a fan of equal rights and not objectifying anybody, I do not see what is wrong with having pretty women who choose to show up and get paid to be pretty being in these booths.

Isn't telling them "you can't do this here" the same as telling them they can't work at the job they have chosen to do, because they are pretty and female. And isn't that more chauvinist and objectifying than allowing them?

Well said, sirs or madams. :)

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I feel like any well thought-out post disagreeing with Patrick writing this will just get downplayed by a bunch of "HATERS GONNA HATE" posts and some HILARIOUS macros from memegenerator.net.

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The whole female exploitation argument is bullshit.

Aside from some super emo teenagers and religious nuts, I don't know a single guy who is disgusted with porn. Jeff and Ryan have both cracked jokes on the podcast about how they like porn, and I think it's a safe bet most guys when left to their own devices will enjoy a little porn now and then. That doesn't mean they're pornaholics, but seriously - what sexually active male is out there fighting a crusade to get the porn industry shut down and banned due to their moral outrage? Yeah, no. Aside from prostitution, porn is about as exploitative as it gets - even that is a fine line. So, if you're morally okay with enjoying porn, it's a bullshit hypocritical argument to cry foul at women being exploited as eye candy at events like E3. However exploited the booth babe is, she's not getting split roasted and cummed on...for money...

This whole argument is a cover for the truth that no one wants to come out and say: Men have their fair share of negative self image and general lack of self confidence, especially when it comes to women. That leads to an outright nervousness when forced to be in contact with a hot babe. To make matters worse, the press is working at E3. They're moving from place to place getting shit done. That means they're going to be tired, sweaty, run down, and maybe a little hung over - they don't have the opportunity to present their best appearance to the booth babes when they are forced to interact with them to get the info they need when they provide coverage. It's not that every guy wants to try and pick up every cute girl. It's just depressing to think a hired gun might be silently judging you with contempt while you are there trying to get work done. I mean really - Nintendo chained all the 3Ds units to these women? Really? For those trying to get work done, this is a situation that is only made more stressful and difficult by forcibly inserting sexuality into it.

I agree the practice is distracting for the press who are actually trying to get work done, but let's be really honest about what's going on here instead of trying to twist this into a discussion about morality. Hot women have an effect on men. Period. Some men get nervous, others get cocky and a little rude, others become introverts and play it off like they aren't intimidated, or turned on, etc. But every straight guy notices some change when a hot woman is around.

I work at great company filled with experienced professionals. 90% of the company is men over 30 with wives, kids, mortgages, etc. We act professionally because we like our company, we make good money, and our families are counting on us to do strong work and bring home the fat pay checks. Everyone is very polite and I've seen no significant drama in the 5 years I've been there. About three month ago, my department hired a _HOT_ young girl. She is honestly a 9 or 10 and she knows it. She spends a lot of money on high end clothes, make up, drives two hours once a month to visit her hair stylist, etc. She's not even my type at all, but I can say without reserve she is really gorgeous. And she's had an impact on the social dynamic around the office.

Suddenly guys who were not all that helpful or interested when her position was previously held by a guy are now floating around her desk seemingly at all times. She asked me for help the other day on an issue, I came over to her desk and within 2 minutes, two other guys came over to see if she needed any additional help - she didn't ask for their input, they just saw me over there and decided they needed to insert themselves into the situation. I bailed and went back to my desk. I wound up doing the work one of those guys was responsible for because he were too busy buzzing around her. It's a little frustrating, but not unexpected. This is the effect beautiful women have on men. It is as unavoidable as sunshine.

I can see how booth babes only complicate the work that needs to be done at E3 by the press and business folks, but let's take a step back and really look at the situation again. Are we really upset that some young college girl is getting paid a few hundred bucks to stand around and look pretty for a week? Really? I don't think that's the issue.

Thoughts? Am I totally off base here?

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Giant Bomb, filling that purely fun space that other gaming Web sites ignore ...

except when it's running sanctimonious feminist opinion pieces. I guess when taking a paycheck from G4 Patrick had no problem with Olivia Munn blowing hot dogs and parading around for teen fanboy ratings on a regular basis.

Next week on Giant Bomb, how strip clubs objectify women and force them to parade in front of men against their will. Men who never, ever lech over females at any other time.

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Ironically, when someone sees something that harms no one, gets offended by it and demands the practice be changed to accommodate their tastes and makes a big stink of it as done in this article, it's typically pretty obvious that they need to grow the fuck up.

I'm talking to you, Patrick. This whiny, stupid article is a joke. Booth babes? You're getting upset about BOOTH BABES? And you argue this while posting yaoi fanart you found online objectifying a male character? Seriously? Can you really be that detached? Sex sells, always has always will. Trying to vilify the drive that motivates every living creature on Earth is childish. Are you afraid these women will give you cooties?

To think a woman would claim it was an assault on her self esteem. The audacity, the selfishness. Does she think she's the center of the universe? She feels she's assaulted because she doesn't feel as pretty as these women?

Should Cirque Du Soleil fire the Gemini Brothers because male audience members feel inadequate by comparison? Should world famous chefs be forced to close shop because normal husbands and wives feel their self esteem is wounded because they can't cook as well? Should the Olympics and athletic sports be shut down entirely so as not to offend everyone who wishes to be that athletic, but hasn't gone through the training? Why give out grades at school? The less intelligent students might get depressed they don't perform as well as their classmates. Unbelievably childish "ME ME ME" thinking.

Not to mention the remarkable immaturity of the mindset that any descent from your opinion is trolling. Anyone who disagrees is a misogynist or trolling to stir up controversy. Why address their arguments when you can dismiss them with an ad hominem, right? You don't have to listen to what those big ol' meanies say!

Here's a thought Patrick, if you don't like what goes on at E3, don't go to E3. If it offends you so much, get a job in another field instead of kicking up false controversy in the hopes of getting in on some of that internet feminism money.

To simplify, grow up Patrick. Just grow up.

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I am proud to be a Manchild. I am proud to support gamers be they male, female, cisgender, trans, or genderqueer. I think Anita Sarkeesian is a poorly-researched, misinformed dilettante who mismanaged a common situation, validated her trolls and put herself and all her followers at risk for further harassment. I think feminist Gamers deserve a better voice. I don't think that covering up sexy images in a misguided attempt to lower testosterone levels will turn every would-be creep and stalker into John Mayer. I think booth babes are silly and unnecessary, but I also think shaming grown women for what they do with their own bodies is deplorable. I refuse to be sex-shamed for my hobby until every boat, auto and trade show (you know, real man grown-up stuff) takes away their slinky spokes models as well.