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E3 Needs to Grow Up

Despite a growing call for change, the organizers of E3 have no plans to address the booth babe issue at the industry's biggest show.

I'm sure these women are well versed in the talking points for Namco Bandai's upcoming fighting game.
I'm sure these women are well versed in the talking points for Namco Bandai's upcoming fighting game.

There’s been no shortage of discussion about women and video games this past week.

The conversation’s been driven by the gross response to Anita Sarkeesian’s nearly finished Kickstarter about the unfortunate and exclusionary tropes of female video game characters, and the quickly scrutinized comments from a producer on Tomb Raider about a potential rape scene (a description the studio has walked back) in the new game.

These are all good, uncomfortable conversations to have, but if we're talking about the depiction of women in games at such a serious level, how do we still have E3 booth babes? Other than for easy hits in web galleries, anyway.

The commonly referred to booth babe (also known as a "woman") is hired solely to wear skimpy clothing with a game or company’s logo and take photographs with attendees (who does that, by the way?). Typically, they are not well versed in the product they are hired to represent.

It seemed like a good time to check in with the Entertainment Software Association, who manages E3.

Despite some of the recent heated conversation, there are no plans to shift E3 policies.

"Exhibitors determine for themselves what is the best representation for their companies. Models are welcome if companies would like to have them, but that's an individual exhibitor decision,” said ESA VP of media relations and event management Dan Hewitt in an emailed statement to me yesterday.

Ghost Recon Commander designer Brenda Brathwaite sparked a vocal debate on Twitter over booth babes before she headed to the E3 show floor last Thursday.

“I dread heading off to work at E3 today,” she said. “The show is a constant assault on the female self esteem no matter which direction I look. I am in good shape, yet it is impossible not to compare. I feel uncomfortable. It is as if I walked into a strip club w/o intending to. These are the policies of @e3expo and @RichatESA. I feel uncomfortable in an industry I helped found.”

Her comments found plenty of support, such as Inside Network managing editor AJ Glasser.

@br The worst is when I get so good at seeing right through it that I forget they're actually women underneath the barely-there clothes.

— AJ Glasser (@Joygirl007) June 7, 2012

It’s not a new critique, but it was louder this year, and there seems to be a growing desire for change.

There was also the usual “what’s the big deal?” responses, including 3D Realms co-founder George Broussard.

@br I think you/others take it too seriously. It's not some academic event. It's a glitz show full of spectacle. #serious_business

— George Broussard (@georgeb3dr) June 7, 2012

It’s been a few years, but the ESA policy on booth babes has changed from E3's inception. The last major shift came in 2006, as new penalties, fines and policies were introduced regarding women featured in E3 exhibits.

"What's new in 2006 is an update and clarification of the enforcement policies; as we do from time to time, we have taken steps to ensure that exhibitors are familiar with the policy and how it will be enforced," said E3 show director Mary Dolaher to Reuters at the time.

A violation of the clothing policy would result in, at first, a warning, and then a $5,000 fine. Here’s what the handbook from 2006 said to exhibitors considering booth babes--er, sorry, live models:

"Material, including live models, conduct that is sexually explicit and/or sexually provocative, including but not limited to nudity, partial nudity and bathing suit bottoms, are prohibited on the show floor, all common areas, and at any access points to the show."

Hewitt told me there have been no changes to ESA policy since 2006.

Maybe there should be. Consider this anecdote that didn’t even take place on the show floor itself.

This was one of the first results the search term
This was one of the first results the search term "Devil May Cry strippers" gave me, sorry.

We arrived to our Capcom appointment, I plunked down with Lost Planet 3, and Alex Navarro was ushered over to play Devil May Cry. In a room of kiosks, there were pole dancers. It’s unclear what that has to do with Devil May Cry. The girl hired to skimpily waltz around was sitting on the floor, looking bored. Everyone in the room is focused on playing the game, and Alex wasn't playing Devil May Cry in a see-through bubble. No one on the show floor could see this room. Can someone explain how this helps anyone do their job?

Elsewhere, I refused to play any 3DS games at Nintendo’s booth because the company didn’t have a table with machines, and instead tethered its lineup to attractive women. I let that gimmick slide when Nintendo pulled the same trick at the original 3DS unveiling, but I’ll just wait until those games are out now, thanks.

Nintendo probably thought it was a cute idea. I doubt (and this is my sincere hope) Nintendo meant to undermine the credibility of women at gaming’s biggest show. It's still ignorance. Many of the issues regarding women and E3 aren’t overtly offensive, and can be easily rationalized by those who don’t see a problem.

That’s okay--we should have a debate about it.

And this is all hardly an issue that’s exclusive to games. The same week as E3, the Computex Summit was happening in Taipei, and computer manufacturer ASUS sent out the following tweet:

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That tweet has since been deleted and ASUS released an apology, obviously.

I can gripe all I want, but the most effective solution has to come from the ESA itself. Only the ESA can enforce regulations on exhibitors, and let them know this archaic marketing tool needs to go away. If games are growing up, so does the way we go about advertising them in front of, ostensibly, a bunch of professional. This isn’t 1994.

PAX figured this out years ago, even if there have been incidents along the way (i.e. Lollipop Chainsaw at PAX East).

“Our definition of a ‘booth babe’ has been a model (male or female) that has been hired to stand/sit in skimpy clothing to market the product,” said Penny Arcade president of business development in 2010. “If that person knows the product inside and out then it’s less of an issue. A company representative that can interact with attendees in a way that provides value as opposed to ‘hey stare at my body’ is something that we encourage whether or not that representative is physically attractive or not.”

If E3 is supposed to represent the industry’s best, why can’t it figure out how to respect its own attendees?

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been asking this question for weeks, about how woman are portrayed and treated in the video game scene, and how it makes no sense that sexism is allowed to run rampant... even though there are many woman in the video games industry and many who play.

It is disgusting and appalling; i thought we were better than this.

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@Napalm said:

Whatever guys, don't use this as a forum to shit all over Patrick and Giant Bomb because you can. Just because a lot of us don't agree with the views of this article doesn't mean you can just dump all over everything else and make the fight about something else. Just stop it, guys.

If the topic is brought up, you get people arguing over the various elements and angles of that topic. The nature of games journalism and the coverage of the industry at large is a big part of the overall topic that is being brought up here specifically because Patrick basically just ignored that side of it entirely. The "journalists" in this industry share a large part of the blame, and I don't see why that part of this controversy is forbidden, apparently. It's not as if their feelings are going to be hurt, or something.

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@Socialone said:

You mean to say the video game industry should aim to be more mature than other fields of entertainment such as professional sports, motorized racing, Hollywood cinematography and major musical labels by putting an end to machismo in its products and expositions?

Good luck with that.

Exactly. Like it or not modeling is a profession. To compare Games with another large industry, Automotive shows also have attractive females posing next to inanimate objects. Consumer electronics shows, particularly in Asia, also have ladies showing off the latest stuff. When E3 returned to the big spectacle showcase for gaming this is the stuff that should be expected. Maybe tighten up the dress code a little, but objecting to models at a trade show is hypocritical horseshit.

The ESA should make a decision. Is E3 a large spectacle with huge expensive booths and ladies showing off video games? Or is it a serious summit between the media and publishers akin to the 07 and 08 shows. Can't have it both ways.

I kinda wish it were 1994, where we didn't have this "games journalism" thing.

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Whatever guys, don't use this as a forum to shit all over Patrick and Giant Bomb because you can. Just because a lot of us don't agree with the views of this article doesn't mean you can just dump all over everything else and make the fight about something else. Just stop it, guys.

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I just think this is a good reminder about how mature this sites coverage of E3 has been the last few years. Not that I want it to change (I'd say most of us actually love it), but criticizing "the industry" for the immaturity is getting old.

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Booth babes are paid to do a job. So we should campaign to put them out of work?

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Really, REALLY disappointed with the GB community on this. There's lots of really awful places on the internet where you can go be the worst, don't do it here.

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I bet if you had girls stand around in Burqas people would be even angrier, claiming that they are just afraid of the female body or some stupid crap like that.

Booth babes arent a completely awful thing to have, but it should at least be done more tastefully. At least make them know about the game.

The screenshot of the asus tweet gets to me though, thats a pretty funny joke i think even a woman would say is no big deal. And the girl is in proper attire. Thats proof that some people take things way too seriously.

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@YukoAsho said:

@Marokai said:

While I think there`s plenty of blame to go around for all the controversy (journalists who are complicit, sites that abuse it for pageviews, etc etc) I find the idea that Giant Bomb should just be our wacky entertainment puppets to be kind of gross. This site is supposedly be funny and pleasant and entertaining, but it`s also not meant to be just a more goofy Gamespot. Giant Bomb has always had a deeper and more opinionated edge, and that should never go away.

While I agree that deep, concise stuff is great for the site, GB can't go low-brow one moment and high-brow when it wants to join the angry mob. Sorry, but if your editorial content (and that's what most of the site's content, from articles to quick looks to TNTs, is) is all over the fucking place, you should be called out for it, and GB is wildly inconsistent when they endorse a game that revels in vulgarity while waggling the fingers at booth babes.

Vulgarity does not equal an endorsement of sexism and misogyny.

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you know what's funny? grown men who play video games telling the video game industry to grow up

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Sex sells plan and simple, and plus whats the problem with providing people with jobs even if they don't "get it" or whatever, people need to stop being so pretentious and just realize it's a part of society and honestly booth babes exist cross genres via sports, beverages, etc. so for anyone to think that these booth babes are a serious problem in the gaming culture need to rethink their position or grow up

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@YukoAsho said:

@Marokai said:

While I think there`s plenty of blame to go around for all the controversy (journalists who are complicit, sites that abuse it for pageviews, etc etc) I find the idea that Giant Bomb should just be our wacky entertainment puppets to be kind of gross. This site is supposedly be funny and pleasant and entertaining, but it`s also not meant to be just a more goofy Gamespot. Giant Bomb has always had a deeper and more opinionated edge, and that should never go away.

While I agree that deep, concise stuff is great for the site, GB can't go low-brow one moment and high-brow when it wants to join the angry mob. Sorry, but if your editorial content (and that's what most of the site's content, from articles to quick looks to TNTs, is) is all over the fucking place, you should be called out for it, and GB is wildly inconsistent when they endorse a game that revels in vulgarity while waggling the fingers at booth babes.

I bowed out of the conversation in favor of sleep last night, but thanks for what you wrote. Your reply was to the heart of what I was getting at.

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I don't care for "booth babes" but I also don't care for the way many of the women I see in public dress. During the summer, it's very common to see them in booty shorts and a tight tank tops. Guess what? People love shit like that. It's their business. If companies want to objectify women and women want to objectify themselves that's their business. Stop with the holier than thou, pretentious nonsense.

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@Marokai said:

@sirdesmond said:

Booth Babes just insult their intended audience (me and others on this site) by thinking that a pretty woman being near something will make me buy it.

Considering some of the defenses of the practice in this thread alone, I think it works.

Yep and as long as it works, it's not going away.

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@sirdesmond said:

Booth Babes just insult their intended audience (me and others on this site) by thinking that a pretty woman being near something will make me buy it.

Some booth babe do get the people attention on there game, like the Bayonetta both babe,

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@sirdesmond said:

Booth Babes just insult their intended audience (me and others on this site) by thinking that a pretty woman being near something will make me buy it.

Considering some of the defenses of the practice in this thread alone, I think it works.

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Booth Babes just insult their intended audience (me and others on this site) by thinking that a pretty woman being near something will make me buy it.

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@goatmilk said:

The booth babes or whoever could have turned down that job but they didn't. They chose to do it. They could've chosen to do anything else but they chose to dress up that way and stand around for guys to ogle them.

Because only men go to E3, amirite?

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@YukoAsho said:

For example, we have that... Enlightening picture by . Nice to see those horrid, bigoted views haven't gone anywhere.

Unfortunately, most of the internet is full of cavemen and trolls, and the media is more than happy to take their TV time and page hits.

Don’t worry, my girlfriend made me pay for that one pretty bad.

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The booth babes or whoever could have turned down that job but they didn't. They chose to do it. They could've chosen to do anything else but they chose to dress up that way and stand around for guys to ogle them.

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@chaosnovaxz said:

Totally agree.

Booth babes are objectifying to women, as well as insulting to the male audience for what their existence implies about that audience's maturity.

werd up

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Jesus, this seems like such a pointless issue. Guess what complainers, reailty does not need to 100% fit into your world view. It's like someone who wants to be celibate complaining that it's the fault of a beautiful woman walking down the street that they are having dirty thoughts. Hot women/men exist! If you can't concentrate at E3 cause of booth babes you must be at risk of public masterbation at the beach

If your offended, put on a blindfold, ask the models to cover themselves with a blanket, cut off your balls, or don't go. Must be a slow news summer months issue.

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@Socialone said:

You mean to say the video game industry should aim to be more mature than other fields of entertainment such as professional sports, motorized racing, Hollywood cinematography and major musical labels by putting an end to machismo in its products and expositions?

Good luck with that.

This forum needs a "like" button

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You mean to say the video game industry should aim to be more mature than other fields of entertainment such as professional sports, motorized racing, Hollywood cinematography and major musical labels by putting an end to machismo in its products and expositions?

Good luck with that.

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PAX > E3

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@ineedmoneyplyr said:

Who cares. Do they make you feel that uncomfortable? I agree that their presence maybe a little distracting from the actual games, but I hardly see it as an issue that needs to be addressed or a problem with growing up.

Grown ups like to look at things much worst than E3 booth babes. They are also photogenic and make good pictures. Nobody is the wiser in this situation because everybody is keen on their purpose including the girls. I just think you made a bigger issue than it needed to be.

Translation - "I like lookin at bewbs. Stop trying to take them away from me!"

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A few people already brought up this point, but this whole issue was addressed in 2006 with the serious tone down of E3, and I remember a few weeks ago on the Bombcast the guys were being E3 nostalgic and saying how much those years suck. We're back to the glitz and glamour of E3, and that's what it's for. It's the blown out, insane monster of a show. I'm glad that PAX exists, and when I went to PAX East, I didn't miss the booth babes (although I did run into the Lollipop Chainsaw girl, it seemed kind of ridiculous they had to kick her out.), but that's because PAX was founded on different principles and serves a different purpose. And honestly, PAX is the better show out of the two. But that doesn't mean that E3 should change or grow up, it is what it is.

Face it, video games are never going to "grow up", nor do they need to. Video gaming is a ridiculous idea at its very core, founded on such legendary icons as a plumber who fights mushrooms and a yellow disc running away from ghosts. A world where one guy has to beat up a million others and occasionally eat a turkey that they were carrying. People compare gaming to the film industry all the time, and in the early days of film there was the Hays Code which defined what you could and couldn't be shown in a movie. Nowadays, that notion in film is quaint, and it's easy to see that filmmakers of the day pushed the boundaries of the code all the time and wanted to make more adult fare. Video games never had this problem because they were never taken as seriously as film, and now that they are a serious "art form", people want to back pedal. But you can't. If you can't have boobs, you can't have people being chainsawed in half, you can't have RPGs where kids shoot themselves with pistols to summon magic, you can't portray a terrorist gunning down civilians in an airport.

It's sleazy that game companies use sex to sell video games, but it's not the only trade show that does it, and video games are not going to be the industry that changes the world, people would laugh if it tried.

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@dudebro said: Its all a bunch of trash from shut ins about bloo bloo I dont want to talk about this it makes me uncomfortable. The "they are ugly" comments are the worst though and the people that posted that should reevaluate their shitty lives.

All that being said, Did you nerds actually read the article??? Patrick is stating that the industry has grown up to the point that at a large semi-closed door professional industry expo you dont need fucking "booth babes". Patrick is essentially saying that the expo should reign in the nonsense to shine a better image on the industry itself. Many games are not marketed at all to girls and women but its a huge market that remains largely untapped, and there are many female gamers or potential gamers a product could be marketed to or at least be made gender neutral. Additionally the booth babe bullshit just isn't needed why should a professional trying to get a hands on of a game to write about have to play it tethered to a woman, that's absolutely insane and disgusting.
You can say what you want about sex sells and everyone needs to one up each other but that doesn't matter and is outside the scope of the argument. The IMPORTANT point Patrick is pointing out here is that a blanket ban on "booth babes" and treating the event as an actual industry expo that it is supposed to be shines a better light on the culture and stereotypes that surround gaming.

That's all fine and good, but as I said above, until booth babes stop attracting attention (there is no bad publicity, after all) or until people in the gaming press make some kind of stand, nothing is going to change. Instead of attacking the ESA and saying "hey, why don't you do something about this?", go after the game companies and tell them you (as in, the gaming media) won't play their games. That's never going to happen, because the gaming media needs to write those stories every bit as much as the game companies need them written. Like it or lump it, the pole dancer at the DMC booth got people talking about it.

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Who cares. Do they make you feel that uncomfortable? I agree that their presence maybe a little distracting from the actual games, but I hardly see it as an issue that needs to be addressed or a problem with growing up.

Grown ups like to look at things much worst than E3 booth babes. They are also photogenic and make good pictures. Nobody is the wiser in this situation because everybody is keen on their purpose including the girls. I just think you made a bigger issue than it needed to be.

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@Ohvee said:

Holy crap this article has the worst comments I've ever read.

I say that every few articles that come out on any topic on tine internet. There's too many asshats out there and not enough real decent people. Until real consequence can be introduced to the internet, and good luck with that, we're going to have vile shit come out of all sides of any argument.

For example, we have that... Enlightening picture by . Nice to see those horrid, bigoted views haven't gone anywhere.

Unfortunately, most of the internet is full of cavemen and trolls, and the media is more than happy to take their TV time and page hits.

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@dudebro said:

Its all a bunch of trash from shut ins about bloo bloo I dont want to talk about this it makes me uncomfortable. The "they are ugly" comments are the worst though and the people that posted that should reevaluate their shitty lives.

All that being said, Did you nerds actually read the article??? Patrick is stating that the industry has grown up to the point that at a large semi-closed door professional industry expo you dont need fucking "booth babes". Patrick is essentially saying that the expo should reign in the nonsense to shine a better image on the industry itself. Many games are not marketed at all to girls and women but its a huge market that remains largely untapped, and there are many female gamers or potential gamers a product could be marketed to or at least be made gender neutral. Additionally the booth babe bullshit just isn't needed why should a professional trying to get a hands on of a game to write about have to play it tethered to a woman, that's absolutely insane and disgusting.

You can say what you want about sex sells and everyone needs to one up each other but that doesn't matter and is outside the scope of the argument. The IMPORTANT point Patrick is pointing out here is that a blanket ban on "booth babes" and treating the event as an actual industry expo that it is supposed to be shines a better light on the culture and stereotypes that surround gaming.

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As long as no one is willing to stand for their principles and shun E3 until they make a change, nothing is going to change. Why should it? People will piss and moan and deride E3 for doing it, but they will do it from the show floor, at which point the ESA doesn't care, because they have your attendance and your coverage. I wager that no one told Capcom "I'm not setting foot in there until you send the pole dancer home". I wonder if anyone actually told a Nintendo rep "I am not playing a 3DS strapped to a woman". People talk of outrage and principles, but at the end of the day, they'll turn a blind eye, because they need the web traffic that writing that article on Devil May Cry brings in. While Patrick passed on playing 3DS games, I thought some of the other Giant Bomb guys did?

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E3 should be just about the games. Booth babes are just desperate attempts to get your product to sell. 

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As a martial arts fan few things make me feel worse about being a man that watching the fucking ring girls walk around between rounds. They should be ashamed of what they're reducing themselves to, and the audience should be ashamed as well.

I wonder if the car industry has the same discussions though. Didn't they more or less invent the booth babe as we know her?

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@Seroth said:

It sounds kinda silly to deny us 3DS coverage because the machines were attached to girls, but, eh, whatever. Maybe they were games that didn't need to be covered? I dunno.

Don't worry, they wouldn't have covered the 3ds any way.

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It sounds kinda silly to deny us 3DS coverage because the machines were attached to girls, but, eh, whatever. Maybe they were games that didn't need to be covered? I dunno.

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@Rawson said:

Patrick, one of the first parties needed to make E3 "grow up" are game journalists themselves.

When Destructoid gets to literally go around "chest bumping" booth babes, something's incredibly wrong. Frankly, it makes me embarassed to even like video games when garbage like that is allowed to occur without industry-wide ostracizing.

Also, the glad handing. Yes, you touch on the DMC stripper, but there's also the issue of backstage demos giving out things like food and beer. That's a bribe, plain and simple, and violates basic journalistic ethics.

i found the chest bump video funny tbh.

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@unholyone123:

Hit the nail on the head. thank you.

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@Oni: Your notion of not going to E3 because of booth babes is ridiculous. Patrick is just expressing how he feels on the subject, and if you don't think he should bring it up because he attends E3, than some one obviously shouldn't live in America because they disagree with Barrack Obama's views.

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I'm all for equal rights, etc, etc.. But sex sells. It doesn't mean women should been objectified and made into sex objects. That's not really happening at e3. I don't get in a panty bunch when Chris redfield takes his shirt off and his perfect abs and whatnot. Isn't that the same thing? I feel like if you're going to objectify women, it's not going to be solely because of a video game

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This is the same kind of talk I remember hearing several years ago when E3 was huge and things were getting out of hand. The next year (and the next?) there were no booth babes, no loud music, and a reduced show room. I think the industry felt the impact those quiet E3's and realized that they needed to project and attitude of excitement at these events or people don't actually get as hyped about games. People at home watching streams seeing a dead show room and no pretty faces tend to be less enthusiastic about the products you're trying to sell them.

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@Revenant86: Brometheus, @Revenant86 said:

Jesus Patrick. I have to read a lot of politically correct bullshit at my job, when I come home to plop down and play/read up on some vidya. I want VIDYA ,not this fucking tripe. This "First-World discrimination" issue is the oldest cash grab in the book. Quite frankly, it's at a level so elementary these days that it might as well be up their with sibling rivalries. You want to talk about Discrimination against Women? Look up a friendly little place called SAUDI ARABIA or The Republic of the Congo, THEN we can have that discussion. Until then we need to look around and be thankful that we have what we have, and quit bitching about what we don't. Nothing is perfect, for ANYONE. And it never will be, we need to realize this. Only then will we truly evolve as a society.

Oh the old somewhere else is worse so we shouldn't try to improve things where we are defense. Hey brometheus listen up:fuck you, we should always try to be better.

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Seems some have forgotten that a few years ago... they did away with Booth Babes at E3 because of complaints like this.

Then, at the next E3... all the press did was complain that the show floor was boring. That the booths looked empty and uninviting. They then began talking about how the booth babes weren't objectifying women.

And they were all happy the next year when Booth Babes were back.

Seems we've gone full circle again and a lot of the press have forgotten the stupidity from a few years ago.

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What's next? OH I KNOW! We should make sure that we get rid of all the attractive female journalists, PR representatives, project managers, janitors, or any other woman that some person who has self-image issues has a problem with. Part of growing up, Patrick, is being tolerant of things we don't necessarily like. I think that it's silly to have these women there, but then again, I also know that these women also make a living doing this. So, I'm willing to tolerate them because they have a right to make a living, just like you have a right to make a living complaining about them.

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@Dagbiker:

Not quite. We need to realize that the solutions we put forward to fix our problems will never make EVERYONE happy. In fact, the solution may be worse than the problem it was designed to solve.

Perfect Example Piracy;DRM

I enjoy Videogames, they are my hobby. The videogames industry is to me, like a high-poly bar. You walk in, have a few beers, play some games, and enjoy yourself and have some fun.

It's not really the booth babes or the femenist movement that has me ticked off. It's the dangerous precedent that caving in to this kind of controversy creates. When will it end? When opinions that are diffrent to the norm are silenced? when all men in videogames are short, skinny glasses wearing nerds, and their alternate costumes are fat neckbeards? When all the women wear sweater vests and baseball caps? How much ground are we going to give these People? I don't want the videogames industry to become like the real world. I play videogames BECAUSE they aren't like the real world. Maybe I WANT to beat up on some slutty nuns, or I WANT to play as a big, muscular, smelly monster. I dont care how offensive it is. As long as I am not hurting anyone. And as long as it brings me enjoyment. Why should I have to worry whether or not what I do in MY game offends anyone? It ISN'T the real world, and as such it shouldn't be treated like it. I don't play games because I wan't to be some pencil-necked chump who gets bossed around by a woman. I play videogames because I DON'T.

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What a load of crap.

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You do know these women get paid, right?

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@dudebro said:

Its all a bunch of trash from shut ins about bloo bloo I dont want to talk about this it makes me uncomfortable. The "they are ugly" comments are the worst though and the people that posted that should reevaluate their shitty lives.

All that being said, Did you nerds actually read the article??? Patrick is stating that the industry has grown up to the point that at a large semi-closed door professional industry expo you dont need fucking "booth babes". Patrick is essentially saying that the expo should reign in the nonsense to shine a better image on the industry itself. Many games are not marketed at all to girls and women but its a huge market that remains largely untapped, and there are many female gamers or potential gamers a product could be marketed to or at least be made gender neutral. Additionally the booth babe bullshit just isn't needed why should a professional trying to get a hands on of a game to write about have to play it tethered to a woman, that's absolutely insane and disgusting.

You can say what you want about sex sells and everyone needs to one up each other but that doesn't matter and is outside the scope of the argument. The IMPORTANT point Patrick is pointing out here is that a blanket ban on "booth babes" and treating the event as an actual industry expo that it is supposed to be shines a better light on the culture and stereotypes that surround gaming.

Yes. This. I am totally with you.

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@OllyOxenFree said:

I vote to have this article removed.
No way. This is another excellent example of problems with the games "press." It serves a good purpose.
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No fun allowed.