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EA Explains Why Battlefield 3 Might Not Appear on Steam

Unless Steam changes its policies, EA says the game will be a no-show.

EA has been a vocal critic of Steam's content policies. Valve has not publicly responded.
EA has been a vocal critic of Steam's content policies. Valve has not publicly responded.

As it stands, Battlefield 3 will not be available on Steam when the game releases on October 25.

There have been plenty of indications this would be the case, but Battlefield 3 community coordinator Seeson Mahathavorn took to the official Battlefield 3 message boards to explain the current situation.

"We are intent on providing Battlefield 3 players with the best possible experience no matter where they purchase or play their game," said Mahathavorn, "and are happy to partner with any download service that does not restrict our ability to connect directly with our consumers. We hope to work out an agreement where Steam can carry Battlefield 3."

Hope.

Electronic Arts' relationship with Steam has been strained, as of late, due to an apparent change in Steam's policies regarding downloadable content. An exclusivity agreement over such content for Crysis 2 had Crytek's shooter pulled from Steam. When Dragon Age II: Legacy released last week, Dragon Age II came down from Steam, too. It's likely the same policies were going to be in place for Battlefield 3, too, which is why EA can confidently say Battlefield 3 will not appear on Steam without changes.

"EA offers games to all major download services," said Mahathavorn. "Unfortunately, Steam has adopted a set of restrictive terms of service which limit how developers interact with customers to deliver patches and other downloadable content. No other download service has adopted these practices.

The complete list of other digital retailers where Battlefield 3 will eventually be available is lengthy, and it's not as though EA is positioning Battlefield 3 as an Origin-only exclusive. The complete list, which includes everything from Amazon to Best Buy, is available at the official Battlefield 3 website.

"We are intent on providing Battlefield 3 players with the best possible experience no matter where they purchase or play the game," said Mahathavorn, "and are happy to partner with any download service that does not restrict our ability to connect directly with consumers."

For the moment, that doesn't include Steam.

Since EA started having issues with Steam, Valve has been--and continues to be--silent.

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in my opinion, Steam is much better at customer service than EA is, so I find myself thinking that this must have to do with EA just wanting more money rather than being about giving customers a better experience. With Steam, you make an account, and buy stuff. it's simple. admittedly, the auto-updater is sometimes a pain, if you're like me and like to install mods for games, but it's not a huge problem. EA shoves its social networking nonsense down your throat (see: pre-ordering Old Republic). also, having owned more than one 360, I can say that the way mass effect 2 dlc works is really fucking stupid.

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Does this mean that when PopCap through EA releases a new semi-DLC type game, that game is also pulled?

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@Infininja said:

@Gnorbooth said:

EA has every right to sell their games and DLC and get 100% of the profits. But if that's the case, then don't use someone else's service to promote and sell your games. Because if said service has now helped you in any way with promotion, sales, downloads, hosting, etc, then they are entitled to a cut.

I don't understand why Valve is entitled to a cut. Let's go back to the days of disc-based games and expansion packs. I buy The Sims at Best Buy. I love it. I play the game every day. I then find out that The Sims: Livin' Large came out this week. I'm nowhere near a Best Buy, but Walmart is just up the road. I purchase it there and install it and have a blast all over again.

Why does Best Buy deserve a cut?

This argument doesn't really apply, because if both the game and DLC are on Steam and no where else then why shouldn't Valve get a cut for having it sell on their service? Sure if you bought the game from another service and could use it in conjunction with Steam and Valve demanded a cut of the profits from that then, yes. 
 
 Why should Valve get a cut?
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@gesi1223 said:

@Infininja said:

@Gnorbooth said:

EA has every right to sell their games and DLC and get 100% of the profits. But if that's the case, then don't use someone else's service to promote and sell your games. Because if said service has now helped you in any way with promotion, sales, downloads, hosting, etc, then they are entitled to a cut.

I don't understand why Valve is entitled to a cut. Let's go back to the days of disc-based games and expansion packs. I buy The Sims at Best Buy. I love it. I play the game every day. I then find out that The Sims: Livin' Large came out this week. I'm nowhere near a Best Buy, but Walmart is just up the road. I purchase it there and install it and have a blast all over again.

Why does Best Buy deserve a cut?

This argument doesn't really apply, because if both the game and DLC are on Steam and no where else then why shouldn't Valve get a cut for having it sell on their service? Sure if you bought the game from another service and could use it in conjunction with Steam and Valve demanded a cut of the profits from that then, yes. Why should Valve get a cut?

That's the whole point of this discussion. The game is on Steam, but the DLC isn't. Valve is forcing the DLC to be on Steam in order to get a cut.

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Wow sure alot of People riding the Preverbial balls of Steam and wishing it were a monopoly in the Digital Distribution arena  *Which users have already made it into* 
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It's because people don't understand how bad monpolies can fuck over other buisnesses and consumers alike. When these kids grow up they'll understand how ignorant they're being.
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They need to stop trying to shove Origin down everyone's throats.

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considering how god awful it has been to play EA games, even on consoles for over now I gotta take valve's side here. I mean shit back in original xbox days EA wouldn't even get with the standardized friends list thing. they're just stubborn assholes.

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@WilliamRLBaker said:

Wow sure alot of People riding the Preverbial balls of Steam and wishing it were a monopoly in the Digital Distribution arena  *Which users have already made it into* 

Not sure if it's so much wishing for a monopoly as it is the fear of everyone making their own client eventually.  Part of the reason Steam has done so well is that it's the de facto standard for digital distribution, like a PC version of XBLA or PSN.  Making it so that people have to have a separate account and client for every publisher will almost certainly retard the PC digital distribution market.
 
Which suits me fine as I prefer physical, but that's me. :)
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@SexualBubblegumX said:
@WilliamRLBaker: It's because people don't understand how bad monpolies can fuck over other buisnesses and consumers alike. When these kids grow up they'll understand how ignorant they're being.
All though I fully appreciate all this "DUR HUR MONOPOLIES BAD" discussion, the fact of the matter is that the argument of Steam becoming a monopoly is moot; why? Because Steam is fucking awesome.
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Mindless fanboys should be seen and not heard.