Games for Windows - Live Gets Reformatted, Rebooted

Only few games support the points on this service (the last time I checked) so coldn't care less about it. Especially if this thing doesn't work on XP (not sure if it does).

2 THOUSAND POINTS IN FALLOUT 3
Hell YEAH.

I've got two beefs with GFWL at the moment.

If I fire up Live in Fallout 3, I have to click about an inch below what I'm trying to click on to get it to register. This was occurring before and after the update. It just seems like a ridiculous bug that should have easily been detected and squashed.

More annoying is that GFWL causes Fallout 3 to flake out and crash, because they don't share resources very well. Before the update, it wasn't so bad. I would crash to desktop after a few hours. After the update, I was crashing every 15 minutes. I tried to sign offline to keep GFWL idle in the background, but apparently, you can't do that without signing out your profile, which removes access to your saved games. So, when I want to play Fallout, I have to physically unplug my network cable. It works, I barely crash anymore.

::sigh:: I guess Achievements are nice, though.

Hopefully, they'll get that all fixed up before Windows 7 launches.

GFWL is horrible.  Steam is the way to go.  Good Old Games and GamersGate are also pretty good digital distribution services, but Steam is still the best one.

Never used it, so I'm unaffected.

I noticed some visual changes when I booted up Fallout 3 the other day.  It looks much better than the previous setup.  It is also far more functional.  Everything seems to work just fine on XP.  I'm glad a marketplace will be showing up as well.  I'll buy more PC games if they have GFW abilities; so far, there hasn't been many GFW titles.

I've played Halo 2 and Gears of War for PC. I never really had a problem with it, it lets you send/receive your messages, voice chat with dudes on their X-boxes etc, and get achievements for playing Halo 2. I don't really think it needs much more than that. If I want an Xbox Live experience, I'll hop on my Xbox.

No effect on me , he he !

I don't care for Windows Live, played games that have had it, never bothered to use it.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: Microsoft should outsource Games for Windows entirely to Steam; a much better and more widely used source for tying in games with downloadable content and achievements. The added bonus there is less piracy.

Gabe and Microsoft go way back, so they would certainly have the pre existing relationship to get the two companies to agree to it.

Anybody get vertical mouse pointer alignment issues in Fallout 3 on the GFWL interface? I thought this update would fix that for me, but it has not. Must be Fallout 3 as people with Gears of War are reporting no issues.

bringing back bad memories of Gears of War for the pc.  So many issues around patches and updates for Games for Windows - Live......eugh, i dont feel well.  Still havent managed to complete that game.  Maybe i should reinstall it and find out if this update doesnt crash the game every 20 seconds. 

Steam's awesome, I use that!

My life is missing something! : (

Tbh if you care sooo much about achievements then your life obviously is missing something.

"All Microsoft will do is charge for downloadable content and stop you from modding games because they seem to think people actually give a shit about achievements......"

Lol, someones never been on a GFaqs board.  Achievments are out of hand.  I hope its a bad fad that will pass.  Who do these ppl even show them to ,or let alone ppl who give a flying shit. 90% of achievment are filler shit!

Why would anyone want to use this over Steam?

All Microsoft will do is charge for downloadable content and stop you from modding games because they seem to think people actually give a shit about achievements......

When it comes anywhere close to providing the quality and overall level of support Steam offers to PC players then it might be worth a look, otherwise its just more MS trash filling up my HDD.

All the better to support the PC platform.

Doesn't affect me - I still use XP  :)

That's cool.  I hope it all works out.

Doesnt sound that bad to load up windows which you have to do start your game, and load a client.  Never tried it, and I would prob go to a gaming site before live or steam, but I dont see that being an issue.  Thats just PCs.  Ive been a split console PC gamer for a long time, but lets face it.  PCs have always been way more trouble, more then they are worth these days.

I have yet to play any PC Games with Games for Windows support but I plan to change that when I get Fallout 3.