Something went wrong. Try again later

Giant Bomb News

178 Comments

Gerstmann Takes On... Video Game Wrestling Madness

Let's talk about eSports Entertainment, the further misadventures of SimCity, and occasional outbursts of excitement.

With Alex spending the last week out on vacation, he's asked me to generate a hot column to fill in for his weekly address. I agreed, but I lack the purity of thought that I can only imagine comes from working remotely. No phones to ignore, no emails to avoid returning, no room full of coughing co-workers to worry about. So I don't know that I have any one topic for you this week. I'll... probably meander a bit.

...

I hate machinima. A lot of that probably has to do with the term itself, which manages to make the concept of "recording dumb shit that somehow involves video games" sound like the most pompous thing in the world. It probably doesn't help that most of the early examples of the form were absolutely awful. Do I really want to watch a billion different "funny" "comedy" "skits" recorded in first-person shooters? Hell, I didn't even really want to watch all those Team Fortress 2 videos that Valve made. But over the last couple of weeks I've gotten into Video Game Championship Wrestling, a regular, episodic set of WWE '13 livestreams that combine the chaos of poorly-programmed AI routines with the madness of a set of awkward story creation tools. It also lumps in a bunch of wrestling and video game nonsense, which more or less sums up my upbringing.

eSports Entertainment at its finest.
eSports Entertainment at its finest.

Characters include Little Mac from Punch-Out!! and Nappa from Dragon Ball Z. Woody from Toy Story has been on a tear recently, eventually growing a set of Devil Kazuya wings and threatening to make the other figures "play with their toys." Donkey Kong was the champion until recently, when the belt was stripped from him after it was revealed that he's been using a glitched finishing move that gave him an unfair advantage.

The VGCW somehow manages to be more "real" than real professional wrestling, because the man behind all this madness just writes the stories and makes the matches. Once the action in the ring begins, everything unfolds as a series of dice rolls as AI-controlled characters face off against one-another. The obvious, wrestling-like storylines and twists get tossed out the window when, for example, Ganondorf can't beat Bowser in a rematch that, if you applied wrestling logic and plot theory to it, should have gone the other way. So there's a certain thrill in watching Bazza, the mastermind behind this whole thing, dig himself out of holes that the AI tosses him into time and time again. His writing keeps things light enough to make it interesting regardless of the outcome, and seeing Adam Jensen roll into the ring on his Augmented Bike is, well, pretty funny.

There's a good, small community surrounding the VGCW, running a wiki devoted to the virtual promotion's happenings and filling Baz's Twitch chat room every time he starts up a show, performing the textual equivalent of wrestling chants and other feel-good nonsense. It's a hefty investment, as the shows can last three hours or more, but if you're a specific kind of nutcase, it's amazing. I don't really watch any TV anymore, but I'm willing to watch THQ's astoundingly busted game play itself for hours at a time... that might be weird to some, but it all just strikes me as another example of people entertaining each other. In a world filled with people just streaming themselves playing League of Legends over and over again, it's great to see something more creative and weird providing a sound alternative to all that eSports stuff. It's also the only thing that makes me excited to see what Yuke's does with the next WWE game, since if Yuke's can be counted on for anything, it's creating a broken wrestling game.

If I were writing it I would put the handful of "real people" in the promotion into a heel stable and find a way for the video game characters to drive them out for good. But I'm not!

...

SimCity! Still broken? Well... it's less broken than it was last week, but now we're on the section of the rage wheel where people stop complaining about messed-up servers and start complaining about the nature of the game itself. I tend to agree with most of the people who are complaining about the small city sizes and the over-reliance on neighboring cities, since both of those things make this a SimCity game that I'd rather not play.

Drawing outside the lines.
Drawing outside the lines.

For EA's part, it's still in the middle of an internet rage storm as enterprising modders keep finding ways to disconnect SimCity from its various limitations and disprove a handful of EA's official statements about the nature of the game. Is it offloading complex calculations to the remote servers? Nah, probably not. Does it have extreme issues with how it handles its population as individual Sims move from one part of the city to the other? Yeah, it sounds like it does.

When the internet mobs up and gets angry, it often overreaches and gets into some weird kind of rage land that no sane human would support. But when I look at all the stuff people have been uncovering about SimCity and set that against EA's statements about the game and its slightly condescending tone when attempting to address its detractors... at some point EA is just bringing more of this on itself. The tone of its responses ("I hate to disturb you when you’re playing SimCity") aren't helping them spin this into a positive thing.

Hopefully the people inside EA are taking all of this seriously and not just looking at numbers of cities created or sales figures while attempting to spin this all off internally as yet another example of "the internet's anti-EA bias." I'm sure it'd be pretty easy to lump this in with the Mass Effect 3 outcry and say "well, everyone's just trying to throw rocks at the throne" or something. There are clearly some lessons to be learned here... if EA is actually paying attention, that is.

...

I recently saw a probably-soon-to-be-announced game that I liked quite a bit.

Thumbs up, soldiers.
Thumbs up, soldiers.

Normally I try to stay away from weird, non-specific statements like that. They're annoying and they make it look like I'm lording my position--where this is a fairly common occurrence--over everyone else. So unlike some other people in my line of work, I attempt to keep that to myself until I have something of substance to say. I get the appeal, though. I've done it before. I'll probably do it again. But that's not because I'm trying to tease some future coverage on the site. I'm not trying to make myself seem self-important (though I understand when people call me out for that very reason when this happens). Sometimes I get pretty excited about this stuff, I guess.

Seeing new games is probably the coolest part about this job, especially when coupled with the ability to talk to the people working on the game and hear about why they're choosing this direction. It's easy to get a little jaded by the game business' constant emphasis on business. But I still get a chill down my spine when I see something new for the first time. If I no longer felt that, I'd probably start thinking about getting out of this line of work. And if you're in this line of work and you don't feel that... why are you doing this for a living?

...

If you've got questions for me, ask away over on Tumblr. I've been running a blog over there for a bit after abandoning Formspring (which, incidentally, is shutting down soon). I definitely don't get to everything, but since it's got a decent mobile app it's something I can whittle away at when I'm stuck in Ryan's car heading to and from the office. Oh, and be sure to say hi if you see us at PAX! Come to the panel on Friday night, Boston!

Jeff Gerstmann on Google+

178 Comments

Avatar image for happymeowmeow
happymeowmeow

226

Forum Posts

10

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 8

Edited By happymeowmeow

I love when VGCW is just a huge fracas; it's a last man standing type match and characters just keep filing out the door with their cool intros.

@jeff I finally got a copy of Syndicate today, all your passionate arguments for it during the GOTY casts won me over and was on my "buy it when the price is right" list. Wonder if anyone still plays the multiplayer....

Avatar image for the_official_japanese_teabag
the_OFFICIAL_jAPanese_teaBAG

4312

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Ah yeah I find those machinima videos stupid too. Where they try to make it like a tv show? Yeah, fuck that.

Avatar image for mnzy
mnzy

3047

Forum Posts

147

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

@excast said:

I was wondering how a Video Game Site Wrestling League might work.

The Giantbomb vs Polygon guys in a Survivor Series match.

As long as Ryan Davis gets the Sin Cara entrance everything will be fine.

Jeff would have to have this:

Loading Video...

Avatar image for draxyle
Draxyle

2021

Forum Posts

2

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

Edited By Draxyle

It's definitely the EA arrogance that irritates me the most; they can't make an apology without patting themselves on the back every single time. It makes it hard to believe these statements are coming through un-edited from those Maxis employees when they sound exactly like every statement EA makes when it screws up. They very much think we're dumb while we're hacking their game to uncover an endless slew of lies.

And yes, I tuned in to VGCW for the first time last week, and I am a believer. That was some dumb fun to watch.

Avatar image for deactivated-5f71e1dc474f5
deactivated-5f71e1dc474f5

379

Forum Posts

730

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

VGCW is brilliant.

Avatar image for olivaw
Olivaw

1309

Forum Posts

6

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Edited By Olivaw

@crushed said:

YO GANONDORF LET BOWSER WIN THAT REMATCH

Look at how he refused to pin Bowser in the last few minutes. Ganondorf is an honorable king. He will always have his legacy. Thousand Years of Darkness. Longest streak of title defenses. First double champion. First three-time champion. Defeated Baz and Little Mac at the height of their corporate power. He escaped Gaben's Wallet Squeeze and used it against him. His curse felled over a half-dozen wrestlers in their prime. He even humiliated Bowser in a past Inferno match.

What did Bowser have? That one time Arino nearly beat him? Those two interns that VGCW corporate pays to dress up as "hoes" during his entrance? No, it was the time he easily beat Ganondorf at the height of Ganondorf's reign, and that night it had been exposed that it was all due to cheating. It was all Bowser had, man.

Ganondorf graciously let him win. He's still a Tag Team Champion, and soon he'll be GM of the company. Bowser can have his narrow exhibition victory, then go back to hiding for the next five or ten promotions as usual.

I

fucking

LOVE

VGCW.

Avatar image for olivaw
Olivaw

1309

Forum Posts

6

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Edited By Olivaw

Oh, and Jeff, it's great to hear you're still excited about stuff. Sometimes it seems like you're the most jaded motherfucker in the room, and if you can still get chills up your spine? Then games are still worth paying attention to!

Avatar image for joshthebear
joshthebear

2704

Forum Posts

726

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 2

#GhostNappa

Avatar image for sirdesmond
sirdesmond

1545

Forum Posts

1672

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 3

@turboman: Chikara Pro is the best! I am a massive Dasher Hatfield fan.

Avatar image for captaininvictus
CaptainInvictus

276

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Here, for those of you who can't see the appeal of VGCW, it needs the chat alongside it as a proper "crowd" for the match. VGCW Clem has uploaded many of the recent matches complete with playlists to Youtube. They include the chat, which increases Hype Levels to somewhere around 8995, possibly more.

http://www.youtube.com/user/VGCWclem/videos?view=1&flow=grid

Here's the Casual Champion, Red(formerly Ash Ketchum) defending his title against the challenger, Mario.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hgRpE6V8p8&hd=1

@turboman said:

I love VGCW, but the chats are awful during it.

You should stop watching then because the chat is the best part about it outside of when Wario shows up(because stupid people don't understand why people say "Jewario" and turn it into ACTUAL anti-semitism) or when Barkley fought DK(lol racism is hilarious).

@zaccheus said:

I tried to watch VGCW and was disappointed that there was no commentary during the matches... The characters are amazing and the intros just unbelievable, but who want's to actually watch those matches?

There is commentary. Weren't you listening about the Educated Feet and how This Is Disgusting?!

Avatar image for beard_of_zeus
beard_of_zeus

2021

Forum Posts

4665

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 37

Edited By beard_of_zeus

@flstyle said:

@zaccheus said:

I tried to watch VGCW and was disappointed that there was no commentary during the matches... The characters are amazing and the intros just unbelievable, but who want's to actually watch those matches?

4000+ people as of Tuesday night, part of the fun is the chat amusing themselves.

I guess if you can call that fun. I checked out the VGCW stuff for the first time the last time it was streaming, and enjoyed all the nonsense happening in the game, but the whole time the chat was just parroting whatever was being said by the announcers or in the story scenes in ALL CAPS. Seeing 4,000 people all think they have anything interesting to add to the proceedings when they truly don't is just kind of a bummer. That's the internet though, I guess.

Avatar image for beard_of_zeus
beard_of_zeus

2021

Forum Posts

4665

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 37

Edited By beard_of_zeus

Jeff, glad to see you excited about video games and video game-related wrestling nonsense. :)

Have fun at PAX! Maybe one of these times I'll make it out there...

Avatar image for mocbucket62
MocBucket62

2689

Forum Posts

1106

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 3

User Lists: 7

Edited By MocBucket62

Really enjoyed the read Jeff! Thanks!

Avatar image for captaininvictus
CaptainInvictus

276

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

@flstyle said:

@zaccheus said:

I tried to watch VGCW and was disappointed that there was no commentary during the matches... The characters are amazing and the intros just unbelievable, but who want's to actually watch those matches?

4000+ people as of Tuesday night, part of the fun is the chat amusing themselves.

I guess if you can call that fun. I checked out the VGCW stuff for the first time the last time it was streaming, and enjoyed all the nonsense happening in the game, but the whole time the chat was just parroting whatever was being said by the announcers or in the story scenes in ALL CAPS. Seeing 4,000 people all think they have anything interesting to add to the proceedings when they truly don't is just kind of a bummer. That's the internet though, I guess.

you don't understand how crowds work probably because you are Forever Alone

Avatar image for marblecmoney
marblecmoney

599

Forum Posts

113

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 9

EVERYONE'S GOT A PRICE!

Avatar image for rocospi
Rocospi

271

Forum Posts

52

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Edited By Rocospi

Based on the Simcity successful sales figures, I believe you can describe it as a tactical victory with a strategic defeat.

Avatar image for flstyle
FLStyle

6883

Forum Posts

40152

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 17

@flstyle said:

@zaccheus said:

I tried to watch VGCW and was disappointed that there was no commentary during the matches... The characters are amazing and the intros just unbelievable, but who want's to actually watch those matches?

4000+ people as of Tuesday night, part of the fun is the chat amusing themselves.

I guess if you can call that fun. I checked out the VGCW stuff for the first time the last time it was streaming, and enjoyed all the nonsense happening in the game, but the whole time the chat was just parroting whatever was being said by the announcers or in the story scenes in ALL CAPS. Seeing 4,000 people all think they have anything interesting to add to the proceedings when they truly don't is just kind of a bummer. That's the internet though, I guess.

Exactly. Love it or hate it, it's like a real wrestling event/show/PPV crowd in text form, which for me adds to the craziness.

Avatar image for mrfluke
mrfluke

6260

Forum Posts

-1

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 2

@olivaw said:

Oh, and Jeff, it's great to hear you're still excited about stuff. Sometimes it seems like you're the most jaded motherfucker in the room, and if you can still get chills up your spine? Then games are still worth paying attention to!

agreed, that in the sense that its great that there are still games that get him stoked!

the most jaded remark id probably give to brad imo, as jeff has a pretty balanced opinion these days,

Avatar image for ripelivejam
ripelivejam

13572

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

plz recreate captain olimar and a herd of pikmin in this. are there any midget models?

Avatar image for ilovevideogames
ILOVEVIDEOGAMES

12

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Edited By ILOVEVIDEOGAMES
Loading Video...
Loading Video...

"VGCW" straight up copied this guy , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nv36psYbP8w.

He streams on Twitch because it seems to be more popular than Livestream (obviously).

Take it or leave it, this guy invented this and deserves all credit. "VGCW" is just awful compared to the original show.

Avatar image for slot9
slot9

154

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Very informative. It's like I just read a jar video.

Avatar image for kittyvondoom
KittyVonDoom

447

Forum Posts

117

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Edited By KittyVonDoom

I still find it hard to believe any sane person actually chooses to waste their time and money watching people play video games competitively. I feel guilty enough playing games myself, but watching others be OCD over a game? It feels to be as constructive as watching graphics fly by on a screensaver or someone playing darts.

Avatar image for endurancefun
EnduranceFun

1116

Forum Posts

223

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

@ilovevideogames: Baz credits who he 'copied' the idea from, no idea what you're talking about.

Avatar image for mikkaq
MikkaQ

10296

Forum Posts

52

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 2

Edited By MikkaQ

@jeff Wait, so if there are text-based chants in the VGCW, are there also assholes who keep typing "What?" and think that's still funny?

Avatar image for punkycrisps
punkycrisps

44

Forum Posts

119

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 2

User Lists: 0

Edited By punkycrisps

@russcat: As I understand it, people have only been able to download other players' cities and mess 'em up locally. They don't sync back to the server last I heard.

Avatar image for whirblewind
Whirblewind

20

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

I sometimes wonder if Jeff is anhedonic.

Avatar image for insane_shadowblade85
insane_shadowblade85

1710

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 1

@mikkaq said:

@jeff Wait, so if there are text-based chants in the VGCW, are there also assholes who keep typing "What?" and think that's still funny?

I haven't run into that. I've seen people freaking out (in a good way) about characters doing finishers, even to the point of giving them names; and voicing their love for the music being played during matches. The only times I've seen chants are when Bazza plays them during the livestream. I've heard "This is awesome!" chants from wrestling shows being played when crazy stuff happens.

Avatar image for bourbon_warrior
Bourbon_Warrior

4569

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 1

Edited By Bourbon_Warrior

@jeff Would love to see Giant Bomb host the matches in the chat.

Avatar image for supberuber
SupberUber

346

Forum Posts

7

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 1

Not the best article I've read. I'm not sure if it even qualifies as an article.

Avatar image for captaininvictus
CaptainInvictus

276

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Edited By CaptainInvictus

@ilovevideogames said:

"VGCW" straight up copied this guy *snip*

He streams on Twitch because it seems to be more popular than Livestream (obviously).

Take it or leave it, this guy invented this and deserves all credit. "VGCW" is just awful compared to the original show.

Yeah, no, that guy didn't create it. It's been around for YEARS longer than that guy you linked, there's 6+ year old videos of old WWE games with Kirby, Mario, etc fighting. Sounds like just another butthurt baby, mad that Bazza took an amusing-but-short-lived concept and turned it into something great.

edit: oh hahaha I didn't even notice you linked to Dreyens. Yeah you're crazy misinformed, sorry bro. Dreyens is just some super crazy mad 4chan idiot, THE MOST butthurt of babies, who literally registered a Something Awful account just to post a banme bitching about Bazza and linking to his stream. He's the worst, and if you continue to be a fan of his, you're like, the worst's worstling.

Avatar image for generiko
Generiko

459

Forum Posts

1121

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 4

NL is enough video game wrestling for me

Avatar image for bourbon_warrior
Bourbon_Warrior

4569

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 1

Edited By Bourbon_Warrior

@hailinel said:

@zaccheus said:

I tried to watch VGCW and was disappointed that there was no commentary during the matches... The characters are amazing and the intros just unbelievable, but who want's to actually watch those matches?

I don't know, it's pretty addicting watching the likes of a hilariously constructed Bowser and Ganondorf go at it for half an hour in a ring that's been set on fire.

Vinny should commentate the whole thing.

Avatar image for ottoman673
ottoman673

1289

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 1

Avatar image for av_gamer
AV_Gamer

2885

Forum Posts

17819

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 15

User Lists: 13

Edited By AV_Gamer

Overall, nice article. EA makes people want to hate them, like the New England Patriots. However, as long as fans spent their money and buy their games, they don't care what the people think. For every major corporation, the bottom-line is profit, not heart-warming praises.

Avatar image for trilogy
Trilogy

3241

Forum Posts

210

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 15

I still find it hard to believe any sane person actually chooses to waste their time and money watching people play video games competitively. I feel guilty enough playing games myself, but watching others be OCD over a game? It feels to be as constructive as watching graphics fly by on a screensaver or someone playing darts.

You can say the same thing about any activity on the internet. You and I engaging in this pointless online conversation is a waste of time by that logic. If you're on this website, you probably watch the video content or listen to the bombcast. How is that any different than watching pros play in a tournament? Finding it to be not entertaining is one thing, but it's no more a waste of time than anything else that isn't truly "constructive".

Avatar image for grondoth
Grondoth

572

Forum Posts

1

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Edited By Grondoth

I guess if you can call that fun. I checked out the VGCW stuff for the first time the last time it was streaming, and enjoyed all the nonsense happening in the game, but the whole time the chat was just parroting whatever was being said by the announcers or in the story scenes in ALL CAPS. Seeing 4,000 people all think they have anything interesting to add to the proceedings when they truly don't is just kind of a bummer. That's the internet though, I guess.

Everyone in the chat knows they don't have anything interesting to add to the proceedings. #EDUCATEDFEET IS TRENDING WORLDWIDE and 2FAST are not cogent, serious analysis of what's going on. That's not the point. The point is to yell stupid things in text along side 2 thousand other people yelling stupid things and laugh at how weird everything is getting. Having the whole chat yell BUZZ when they were first talking about another toy only to have the chat all yell OKAY NOT BUZZ when it wasn't a spaceman is the kind of stupid fun that the chat is for.

Avatar image for jillsandwich
jillsandwich

807

Forum Posts

1054

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 5

What did Jeff see? Battlefield 4? Has it not been announced AT ALL?

Follow the money.

Avatar image for ilovevideogames
ILOVEVIDEOGAMES

12

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Edited By ILOVEVIDEOGAMES

@endurancefun: I don't know much but I remember Team Swift came from "Dreyens" previous stream and there's more content from Dreyen's stream that goes back to 2011. Take your bet there.

Avatar image for devil240z
Devil240Z

5704

Forum Posts

247

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 2

How do you watch the old episodes of VGCW? I want to start watching it.

Avatar image for auron570
AURON570

1778

Forum Posts

1029

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 4

Edited By AURON570

VGCW looks like something I'd only check out if I had a lot of time to burn and was feeling really bored with everything... or drunk. Something like Homestuck (which I stopped reading after act 2, I think?)

Avatar image for zombiesatemycereal
zombiesatemycereal

441

Forum Posts

1029

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

"VGCW" straight up copied this guy , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nv36psYbP8w.

He streams on Twitch because it seems to be more popular than Livestream (obviously).

Take it or leave it, this guy invented this and deserves all credit. "VGCW" is just awful compared to the original show.

Bazza at no point claims to be the originator of this, and mentions in his Twitch info that he wasn't the first person to do this. Quit crying.

How do you watch the old episodes of VGCW? I want to start watching it.

http://www.twitch.tv/bazza87

Avatar image for bazza87
Bazza87

2

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Edited By Bazza87

Nice article, thanks for writing this and watching my show. I'm creating the next episode as we speak and aiming to stream this Tuesday. I'm chilling in my channel now at http://www.twitch.tv/bazza87 If anyone has any questsions for me or just wants to chat.

Avatar image for scarycrayons
scarycrayons

353

Forum Posts

134

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Here, for those of you who can't see the appeal of VGCW, it needs the chat alongside it as a proper "crowd" for the match. VGCW Clem has uploaded many of the recent matches complete with playlists to Youtube. They include the chat, which increases Hype Levels to somewhere around 8995, possibly more.

http://www.youtube.com/user/VGCWclem/videos?view=1&flow=grid

Requoting this so people can see the past episodes with the chat recorded.

Without the chat at the side, VGCW is meaningless. With the chat, especially when it's live and nobody knows what's going to happen, it's amazing.

Avatar image for pop
Pop

2769

Forum Posts

4697

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 8

I watched an episode of VGCW and was annoyed at how long matches took, the stories were funny though. I like how Jeff hates something just cause of it's name. I just watch Red vs Blue which I think has evolved to be more than machinima since it has full animations now.

I wonder what that new game Jeff saw is about, Jeff making me curious as fuck. Also when's that xbox press thingy?

Avatar image for bushlemon
bushlemon

357

Forum Posts

3

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Edited By bushlemon

I read the whole article in Jeff's Gaming Minute voice

Avatar image for captaininvictus
CaptainInvictus

276

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Look up "VGCW Clem" on youtube. There's a bunch of recordings split up into individual matches/plot and put into playlists in order.

Avatar image for jeanluc
jeanluc

4063

Forum Posts

7939

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 11

User Lists: 13

jeanluc  Staff

I like machinima (well I like RvB anyways) so I disagree with Jeff there but I have always hated the word.

Avatar image for satelliteoflove
SatelliteOfLove

1379

Forum Posts

2315

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 8

Edited By SatelliteOfLove

@flstyle said:

@zaccheus said:

I tried to watch VGCW and was disappointed that there was no commentary during the matches... The characters are amazing and the intros just unbelievable, but who want's to actually watch those matches?

4000+ people as of Tuesday night, part of the fun is the chat amusing themselves.

I guess if you can call that fun. I checked out the VGCW stuff for the first time the last time it was streaming, and enjoyed all the nonsense happening in the game, but the whole time the chat was just parroting whatever was being said by the announcers or in the story scenes in ALL CAPS. Seeing 4,000 people all think they have anything interesting to add to the proceedings when they truly don't is just kind of a bummer. That's the internet though, I guess.

Stream Monsters have never been a source of Wylde-level wit. Get past their dullard spew and you have Good Stupid for days out of the matches and faux kayfabe (there's a rabbithole of meta) themselves.