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Good News: PSN Back (Maybe) Within a Week, Bad News: Everything Else [Updated]

Sony confirms personal information obtained by outside party. That's fantastic.


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Update 3: Valve has just told me that anyone who connected their PlayStation Network account to Steam via Portal 2 should not be worried, either. 

"Steam has nothing to do with the PSN outage," said the company in the statement.

Update 2: Regarding rumors Sony may have notified banks days ahead of disclosing today's revelations to the public, I have since contacted customer service representatives at both Bank of America and Chase. I personally have accounts at both financial firms and the representatives claimed to have received no information from Sony about a mass breach of credit information.

Update:  For those who were asking, Sony has just confirmed to me there is currently no way to determine what password you were/are using on PSN. If you're worried at all, you should probably change your password used across the Internet.

Some users have suggested counting the number of "stars" in your saved password as a way to help determine what password you may have been using to access PSN. It's a start.

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Sony has been frustratingly quiet about the problems afflicting PlayStation Network since the downtime started last week. Who caused the issue in the first place? When will the service be back online? More importantly, has the disruption opened up my personal information to the intruders?

One, Sony isn't talking specifics, with the latest update on the PlayStation Blog from senior director of corporate communications and social media Patrick Seybold only outlining that the company has identified "a compromise of personal information as a result of an illegal intrusion on our systems."

Two, probably within a week--at least for some parts of PSN. "We have a clear path to have PlayStation Network and Qriocity systems back online, and expect to restore some services within a week," said Seybold. "We’re working day and night to ensure it is done as quickly as possible."

Three, the answer is yes. Here's what was available to intruders: "name, address (city, state, zip), country, email address, birthdate, PlayStation Network/Qriocity password and login, and handle/PSN online ID." It's also "possible" that "your profile data, including purchase history and billing address (city, state, zip), and your PlayStation Network/Qriocity password security answers" were included.

Unfortunately, credit card details remain a mystery. "While there is no evidence at this time that credit card data was taken, we cannot rule out the possibility," added Seybold. "If you have provided your credit card data through PlayStation Network or Qriocity, out of an abundance of caution we are advising you that your credit card number (excluding security code) and expiration date may have been obtained."

== TEASER ==The continued air of "possibility" regarding how severely PSN was compromised, several work days and a full weekend after PSN initially went down, is not a particularly reassuring concept. I'd implore you to read Sony's full statement on the matter at the PlayStation Blog, as the company has complete details on what companies to contact regarding credit card fraud, should you notice any errant activity.

"We thank you for your patience as we complete our investigation of this incident, and we regret any inconvenience," reads the end of the statement. "Our teams are working around the clock on this, and services will be restored as soon as possible. Sony takes information protection very seriously and will continue to work to ensure that additional measures are taken to protect personally identifiable information."

Stay tuned as more developments unfold. If you notice your personal information was compromised, feel free to drop us an email or leave a comment below.
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Fuck you anon.

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As easy as 1-2-3:
1. I cancelled my credit card.
2. Will never buy from PSN ever again.
3. getting an xbox and use cards only from now on.
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Those fuckers better not touch muh trophies, man!

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@Snapstacle said:
" I'd still rather have my identity stolen than pay for XBL. Just sayin"
And I'd rather pay for XBL. Your indignation rings a little hollow, given the circumstances.
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Changing passwords is a gross over-reaction.

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 Update:  For those who were asking, Sony has just confirmed to me there is currently no way to determine what password you were/are using on PSN. If you're worried at all, you should probably change your password used across the Internet.

I don't get that sentence? Is my pass secure? Did they steal it? Somebody clarify please
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i like people belving that psn is the only thing where there credit cards arent safe on the internet. its jsut all depends on if hackers want to target you.  it does indeed suck but then again thats what balance protection is for.


and i may be wrong psn is down to make sure it doesn't happen again not because the psn is in shambles like some are saying.   blame hackers for psn being down not sony for being the victim.
saying  that a week is freakin crazy. but its only online so im not gonna be super depressed about it. and yes i am a PlayStation plus member.



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@Grissefar said:
"  Update:  For those who were asking, Sony has just confirmed to me there is currently no way to determine what password you were/are using on PSN. If you're worried at all, you should probably change your password used across the Internet.I don't get that sentence? Is my pass secure? Did they steal it? Somebody clarify please "
it's secure, but if you're really worried change it anyways
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What's going to really make the difference to Sony is how mainstream media pick up on this. For all I might be pissed now, I'll carry on using PSN once it goes back up, but how many moms will be picking up a PS3 for little Timmy once Fox News has spent 3 weeks talking about how Sony gave out credit card details to terrorists or some such... They could be hugely boned even before 70 million customers decide to take them to court for their imagined piece of the lawsuit pie.

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@megalowho:  The blog post says that the email is on  its way.



people complaining about having to "change all their passwords now" are idiots.  Isn't that like, rule number 1 of the internet? Personally i use a different password for every website/service that needs any sort of billing info.   This could've happened to anyone, and people shitting on sony for it are dumb,  it really could've happened to anyone.  Its just a shame that the asshole hacker community has chosen sony as a target.
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@Grissefar: Me too I'm a bit confused. 
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@Snapstacle said:
" I'd still rather have my identity stolen than pay for XBL. Just sayin
You're a buffoon. Grow up.
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Well I just changed all my passwords (or at least all the important ones I could remember) and cancelled my credit card, so hopefully I should be good.

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This is unfortunate for PS3 owners. I hope this hasn't burned Sony enough to not make their systems as open as they have been but, it probably has. THIS IS WHY WE CAN'T HAVE NICE THINGS! Still, I think it's on Sony for making, from how I understand it, a stupidly insecure network, putting too much trust in the client. Shit happens, hackers be hackin', but it was just waiting to be exploited.

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@Grissefar said:
"  Update:  For those who were asking, Sony has just confirmed to me there is currently no way to determine what password you were/are using on PSN. If you're worried at all, you should probably change your password used across the Internet.I don't get that sentence? Is my pass secure? Did they steal it? Somebody clarify please "
He's just saying that if you're not sure what password you used for PSN, there's no way of finding out. 
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 @MordeaniisChaos said:
" @proggykins said:
" Sony really dropped the ball on this whole situation. It seems the company exists in spite of their consumers. And yet there are still the apologists who will never admit that Sony may have not handled the situation with grace. "
They just responded with a lot more caution then most would. A lot of other services would care more about the front end experience rather than making sure there was no potential for more issues to arise and make matters worse. I dunno about you, but I'd take this approach to having my credit card and personal information out for the taking for some random asshole.I think we can all agree that the people who attacked the system are far more at fault than Sony is for this. Sony is big, and they are not holding back in their investigation or their countermeasures.Also, maybe if people were willing to pay them for the service, they would have the money to more "gracefully" deal with the issue. It's the sacrifice you make when you get a free service like that. "
Taking down the service was probably the only smart thing they did throughout this fiasco. They were largely uncommunicative with their customers and didn't alert people that personal information may have gotten out until days after it happened. 
Another problem is some people are paying for this service, and they lost more than anyone else. Nonpaying PSN users largely only lost the ability to play online, PS+ users lost online play, cloud storage, and are at a greater risk of having their credit card information exposed.
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@Snapstacle said:
" I'd still rather have my identity stolen than pay for XBL. Just sayin"
You might want to do some reading on Identity Theft before you say something as idiotic as that.
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Thanks Sony for waiting this long to officially tell us you fucking assholes.

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If they didn't take fucking forever to release the PSN points cards, I never would have used my card in the first place. Fuck this shit.

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glad i never had a credit card on psn. changed relevant passowrds.

 

wish sony was more cautious about this instead of waiting a week

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LOL Sony.

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Even when i don't have a PS3 i do feel sorry for the gamers who have it and this is happend really really a messed up work from Sony this is not looking good at all. At the moment all of your privacy is at stake and they are not giving any anwsers you really want to hear. 

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guess what: microsoft just unbanned all its consoles. Do u think its because this?

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Great, after I went around and changed all my passwords from the Kotaku debacle, I have to go back through and change them all again. This freakin blows!

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@Phished0ne said:
" @megalowho:  The blog post says that the email is on  its way.



people complaining about having to "change all their passwords now" are idiots.  Isn't that like, rule number 1 of the internet? Personally i use a different password for every website/service that needs any sort of billing info.   This could've happened to anyone, and people shitting on sony for it are dumb,  it really could've happened to anyone.  Its just a shame that the asshole hacker community has chosen sony as a target.
"
Again, no.  Most companies dealing with such sensitive information have better security in place, that's why this type of thing doesn't happen every day.  People are complaining about Sony so much because of how uncommunicative they've been, literally waiting a whole week before telling us how much of our information is now in the hands of criminals, including credit card details.

This is a big deal and Sony are at least largely to blame.  Let's cut the fanboy nonsense, please.
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I'm glad that I don't have credit card information on there, considering that I just buy the cards. But now they may have my address. That's just dandy.

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@Darkstalker
i like people belving that psn is the only thing where there credit cards arent safe on the internet. its jsut all depends on if hackers want to target you.  it does indeed suck but then again thats what balance protection is for.

and i may be wrong psn is down to make sure it doesn't happen again not because the psn is in shambles like some are saying.   blame hackers for psn being down not sony for being the victim.
saying  that a week is freakin crazy. but its only online so im not gonna be super depressed about it. and yes i am a PlayStation plus member.



I think people are more angry with the lack of info from Sony unti now, including me.
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What a joke. Worst thing is Sony probably won't even compensate for all this mess.

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I am glad I never put my card on my psn account now I hope my PSN games stay good. Need to change email if they let me and password.

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If they had announced this a week ago I'd have still been within the 30 days to return my PS3 for a full refund. Oh well.

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Well, this will change my opinion of Sony. I understand that in developing the initial infrastructure for the PSN system they probably gave some thought as to how to secure your information but obviously not enough. I'm hopeful that after this incident nothing like this will occur in the future. Sony seems to be taking the time to revamp PSN to make it safer for all of us to use, which I will never complain about. However, I will not be providing my personal credit card information on PSN, I never have (which at this time seems to have have been a great decision on my part) and never will. I will also not provide that information to XBOX Live either. I always just purchase and redeem codes when I want to fill my wallet on either system, which is annoying, but in a time like this is totally worth it. I'm hopeful that no ones CC# has been compromised by this attack, but I am also confident enough in what Sony is doing that we will not have this issue in the future.
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@gla55jAw said:
" Thanks Sony for waiting this long to officially tell us you fucking assholes. "
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@Phished0ne:  Sony's problem here has been their amazingly bad PR.  Do other companies get hacked? Yes.  Do other companies try to avoid talking about it for a week?  Good god no.
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@Treythalomew said:
" This is crazy talk. If there was any indication that they could have gotten any personal info/CC then they should have said something day one or day two. "
Thats my problem with this mess. I can accept that shit beyonds their control will happen but to sit on this information for the best part of a week is fucking scandalous.
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Hack of the decade?

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I think I may need to go cancel my credit card.....

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Everyone bitching about Sony and how shitty they are for letting this happen, get over yourself.. Lets see you fight Anon and also block every other hacker in the world who sees a opportunity at a company who is weakened. Shit happens. Get over it. Unless your identity was stolen then you have nothing to bitch about except that you cant play online with your friends for a while. Boo Hoo. If you dont like free internet gaming then go to Xbox. Everyone knew and Knows that if you put ANY info on the internet that It has a chance of being stolen, just like your wallet.  Stop Bitching and get over yourselves.

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i hope somebody finds those hackers and give them a really bad day.

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Some users have suggested counting the number of "stars" in your saved password as a way to help determine what password you may have been using to access PSN. It's a start.    



Wait? What?

Are people forgetting their own passwords?
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Just to be safe, I ordered a new card, changed my current PIN, and added mobile alerts to my bank information for extra security.  While it may be overkill and unnecessary, I feel more secure.  It isn't hard to do and is a good suggestion for anyone truly fearful.  For all of those across the Net saying this is no big deal and it happens all the time -- regardless of whether the second portion is true, this absolutely IS a huge deal and many of those folks were the same ones who yesterday said "No way" could anyone's information have been compromised.  I was unwilling to take the chance.  Purely my personal opinion...  

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Who the fuck puts user information as a .txt file?

Steam and XBL both use 256 encryption.  How fucking hard was this for Sony?  I heard they're a fucking technology company.  

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really the only password that you can change at the moment would be your e-mail password for the account that was compromised,  PSN account info can't even be changed or accessed currently since they don't have the web component online either.  Just keep an eye on your accounts, and don't fall victim to phishing e-mails.  Be vigilant with your credit/debit accounts that were tied to PSN, and report anything suspicious to the appropriate places.   I know I'll just pre-emptively request a new number and card, since I'm relatively paranoid about stuff like this.

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@L said:
" Hack of the decade? "
All 16 months of it? Sure, I guess.
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@McShank: Yes, I take the risk whenever I put my information online.  I also expect to be notified when this information has potentially been compromised.  What Sony have done here is criminal and defending them for it is outright retarded.
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@McShank:  In your "defending Sony" fueled rage you forget that most people are angry over the fact that they only noticed all users of this possible identity/credit card theft today.
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I have the worst luck

the day i finally get a PS3 and got to download and play demos of games like heavy rain and killzone and motostorm and not only does the PSN crap out but my information has been compromised - wish i'd bought it a couple days later now

also the only game i bought, metal gear solid 4 had a disc read error and i was stuck on act 3 

i'm thankful i never entered any credit card information; though with the list of other information they have it wouldn't take much to get there anyway

past that solipsism, i'm sorry for anyone who has any trouble because of this especially identity fraud 

 
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Should we be expecting this to happen a lot now that the security of the system is out in the open?

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This is simply insane. I knew Sony wasn't exactly up to speed with the online stuff, but damn...

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I changed my password for every account, like Whiskey Media, associated to my e-mail I used for PSN as they were somewhat similar to the password I used for PSN, yes I am dumb. Also I believe the credit card info on my PSN account is from my old card so I'm safe there. As soon as I am able to log onto PSN I will change that password as well. Thanks Sony... 

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@Make_Me_Mad: It's PSN, not the PS3. So PSP purchases are just as liable.