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Good News: PSN Back (Maybe) Within a Week, Bad News: Everything Else [Updated]

Sony confirms personal information obtained by outside party. That's fantastic.


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Update 3: Valve has just told me that anyone who connected their PlayStation Network account to Steam via Portal 2 should not be worried, either. 

"Steam has nothing to do with the PSN outage," said the company in the statement.

Update 2: Regarding rumors Sony may have notified banks days ahead of disclosing today's revelations to the public, I have since contacted customer service representatives at both Bank of America and Chase. I personally have accounts at both financial firms and the representatives claimed to have received no information from Sony about a mass breach of credit information.

Update:  For those who were asking, Sony has just confirmed to me there is currently no way to determine what password you were/are using on PSN. If you're worried at all, you should probably change your password used across the Internet.

Some users have suggested counting the number of "stars" in your saved password as a way to help determine what password you may have been using to access PSN. It's a start.

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Sony has been frustratingly quiet about the problems afflicting PlayStation Network since the downtime started last week. Who caused the issue in the first place? When will the service be back online? More importantly, has the disruption opened up my personal information to the intruders?

One, Sony isn't talking specifics, with the latest update on the PlayStation Blog from senior director of corporate communications and social media Patrick Seybold only outlining that the company has identified "a compromise of personal information as a result of an illegal intrusion on our systems."

Two, probably within a week--at least for some parts of PSN. "We have a clear path to have PlayStation Network and Qriocity systems back online, and expect to restore some services within a week," said Seybold. "We’re working day and night to ensure it is done as quickly as possible."

Three, the answer is yes. Here's what was available to intruders: "name, address (city, state, zip), country, email address, birthdate, PlayStation Network/Qriocity password and login, and handle/PSN online ID." It's also "possible" that "your profile data, including purchase history and billing address (city, state, zip), and your PlayStation Network/Qriocity password security answers" were included.

Unfortunately, credit card details remain a mystery. "While there is no evidence at this time that credit card data was taken, we cannot rule out the possibility," added Seybold. "If you have provided your credit card data through PlayStation Network or Qriocity, out of an abundance of caution we are advising you that your credit card number (excluding security code) and expiration date may have been obtained."

== TEASER ==The continued air of "possibility" regarding how severely PSN was compromised, several work days and a full weekend after PSN initially went down, is not a particularly reassuring concept. I'd implore you to read Sony's full statement on the matter at the PlayStation Blog, as the company has complete details on what companies to contact regarding credit card fraud, should you notice any errant activity.

"We thank you for your patience as we complete our investigation of this incident, and we regret any inconvenience," reads the end of the statement. "Our teams are working around the clock on this, and services will be restored as soon as possible. Sony takes information protection very seriously and will continue to work to ensure that additional measures are taken to protect personally identifiable information."

Stay tuned as more developments unfold. If you notice your personal information was compromised, feel free to drop us an email or leave a comment below.
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@Semi_Sauce: It was obviously a joke post and everyone that's taken that post seriously has a green name.
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I wonder how many lawsuits we are going to see about this.  Don't a company have to encrpyt personal data or is required too if they store it?  Sony can't seem to do anything right this generation.    
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Great article. I have been following along, some bad stuff going on here. I find it rather coincidental that it happened right after the stuff with Hotz. Will be monitoring my credit card for awhile.

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@reaper2923:  I guess they are hoping you used your mothers credit card to get flower.
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@radion_null: I was wondering the same thing, maybe they were logged into the site before it happened, so its still letting them post?  It is strange...
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gutted i just had an email to say i am one of the users to have had my info taken :(
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@gunstarhero said:
" gutted i just had an email to say i am one of the users to have had my info taken :( "
This is most likely just an email everyone will receive. I don't think this situation is worst for some people while others got lucky.
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Looks like Valve backed the wrong horse in this race.

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@Semi_Sauce said:
" @Snapstacle
I'd still rather have my identity stolen than pay for XBL. Just sayin

Honestly I've had my credit card info stolen twice already from something as simple as giving the waitress my credit card at PF Chang's. It's really painless when you go through Bank of America.
I think that's a dumb statement. "
Haha that guy is a genius! How about giving me your credit card? I need to make some purchases.
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Can someone get them to specifically confirm that PASSWORDs where stolen, because I find it very hard to believe that in 2011 Sony would store passwords. If so, then I have a few suggestions:

* Fire the CTO/similar position without passing go.
* Fire everyone who touched the relevant code and didn't speak up.
* Fire and/or sue for negligence, any code auditors who did not point out this flaw.
* If this flaw was pointed out and someone made the decision to not do anything about it, fire them.
* BEYOND. THE. PALE.

Repeat after me: salt, hash, stretch. Use known primitives. Use good implementations.

Hopefully 'passwords' it's just what marketing spits up when you say 'salts & hashes'.

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@gunstarhero: That's a mass email that 70 million plus accounts are getting.  I just received one for each account I have,
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I guess I'm buying all my PSN stuff through Amazon now. Not going to risk this happening again.

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@Pr1mus said:
" @gunstarhero said:
" gutted i just had an email to say i am one of the users to have had my info taken :( "
This is most likely just an email everyone will receive. I don't think this situation is worst for some people while others got lucky. "
I haven't gotten an e-mail yet. Do you think they are e-mailing say US users first? 
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@ILikeGames said:
" Looks like Valve backed the wrong horse in this race. "
That's what I said.  BTW prepare to be flamed by sony supporters.  Yes, even here on giantbomb that happens.
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@ptc: Not taking Sony's side on this one, but it's fair to say that if a hacker wants to hack almost any system they will likely find a way (btw, that doesn't excuse Sony from encrypting the data which they should clearly have done). MS doesn't have the best record when it comes to software not being exploited and I'll bet almost every one of those tech/gaming platforms will not be laughing too hard at Sony knowing very weil it could have been/might be them
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Flipped out when I read this:

http://lo-ping.org/2011/04/26/psn-hacker-chat-logs/


Any validity to it?  Is the rest of my data safe? 
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I always thought Points-Card people were just being paranoid, but from this day forth, I am going to be one of them.

   And I am canceling my card as we speak.

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I just want to play online again. :U

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Excellent post Patrick. This is the kind of news video game media doesn't have enough of. People call themselves game journalists, but rarely practice journalism to this degree. Most post rumors, offer a bit of their own speculation and then say something like "we'll keep you updated", which usually means they'll wait till someone else does the work and try to be the first to post it. Here you've got sources, interviews with people outside of the game industry, and excellent, actually useful information. Thanks for making Giant Bomb even better.


On topic, I've been watching my online account activity since the breach happened and I suggest everyone else do the same. I already favor my 360 for multiplayer games, but I'll do so even more now. My PS3 has officially been relegated to Blu-Ray player and Uncharted machine.
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I just checked my account record for the credit card I use on PS3 and there was a $22 charge for something. I'm pretty sure it has to be because of this PSN business because I haven't used it in a week, but luckily my bank saw the charge and noticed it was suspicious and put a hold on my card.
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@sleeprockss said:
" I just checked my account record for the credit card I use on PS3 and there was a $22 charge for something. I'm pretty sure it has to be because of this PSN business because I haven't used it in a week, but luckily my bank saw the charge and noticed it was suspicious and put a hold on my card. "
Are you serious? Fuck man sorry to hear that. I'm sticking with Sony for this generation but when the PS4 hits... yeah I'll pass. 
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It took near financial ruin and company meltdown, but we might finally get to change our PSN IDs!

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I have already cancelled my card and have changed my password to any website that uses my PSN id.  Just want to be super cautious.

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PSN Hackers suck!!

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@ILikeGames said:
" Looks like Valve backed the wrong horse in this race. "
Well, they backed the wrong horse for one game. Previous to Portal 2 Valve never backed Sony on anything. In fact they openly talked shit about them. But yeah, the Portal 2 deal seems kind of moot at the moment. 
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This is one of the reasons why I don't use credit card to make online transactions, in this case the cardholders weren't the ones who f**ked up but it was the merchant who did, giving away customers' information due to outside malicious intent.

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Well... not buying anymore Sony products now. >:(

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Meh, I still like Uncharted, Infamous, and Metal Gear way better than any Halo or Gears of War.  So I'll stick with Sony..

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Okay

 "If you have
provided your credit card data through PlayStation Network or Qriocity,
out of an abundance of caution we are advising you that your credit
card number (excluding security code) and expiration date may have
been obtained."

 

Thats BULLSHIT SONY.... T_T god F'in DAMN

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@SleepyDoughnut said:
Well, they backed the wrong horse for one game. Previous to Portal 2 Valve never backed Sony on anything. In fact they openly talked shit about them. But yeah, the Portal 2 deal seems kind of moot at the moment.  "
I don't think Valve would've gone to all that trouble and expense to integrate Steam for one title. They must've already been kicking themselves when the system was cracked wide open, but now I bet they really regret it.
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what about the people who connected steam to there ps3 with portal 2, did they get there steam info passwords screan names secerty questions
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@xhunterpaul said:
" what about the people who connected steam to there ps3 with portal 2, did they get there steam info passwords screan names secerty questions "
Valve has come out and said that none of your information on Steam was accessible through the PSN hack.
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I got to hand to you guys,i would be going off the nutter...
Like a week now and no live,shit thank god i love my xbox 360!
Uncharted and metal Gear where the only games i played on ps3 other then that the rest where Meh!

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I think I'm gonna ignore the whole thing until it's figured out. I got tired of this news already.

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@Ben99: Me too!
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They really haven't done themselves any favours over the last couple of years.
Removing OtherOS was just the start and all their fans are constantly asking for new features for PSN and the XMB, but nothing ever comes.

I personally don't play a lot of multiplayer online, so cross-game chat is the last on my list.

But, not having the XMB being built into games is just stupid really... :/

Rookie mistake when coding.

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credit card is maxed out on other things..so even if they tried to use it it'll be bounced.


still i worry about other things..kind.. why am i not really worried about this stuff.. that unnerves somewhats
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I'm going to guess that Sony won't be able to fix this without resetting the whole system. Accounts included.

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Overuse of the words "may" and "possibly" make it seems like shit's gone really bad.

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Thanks a lot Anom...    I'm super happy that all my personal information is out there. 

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Fucking-A Sony! Fucking-A! Will have to change all my shit now. Thanks a lot!

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Sony can kiss my ass... I'm going to sell my ps3 and pick up a used one on old firmware.  CFW here I come~

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The funny thing about this whole situation regarding the PSN security breach, at least for me personally is, it started and continues during me moving across town. By the time I have some semblance of normalcy in my new place, I'm sure PSN will be up and running 100%. Fo rme, I really haven't missed anything. I write this as my iPhone is tethered to my laptop, awaiting for the internet guy to do his thing here at the new place. Smartphones FTW.

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Darn Shame i like my PS3 Alot but with this maybe more 360 i have both systems but i play the PS3 More love the Trophies But this is Bad Bad for Sony Bad''
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Sony is kinda like EA. Great and varied games but their management and PR is a catastrophe. They have all the resource and talented employees they need to dominate like they did in the PS1 and PS2 days but the suits in management just sabotage everything all the time this gen. And now obviously this.


I've been a fan forever of their games and consoles and while not defending them when they screw up i would just overlook said screw ups and concentrate on what matters, the games. But now this goes beyond just simple bad marketing or stupid Jack Tretton statements or whatever and their consistently poor track record this gen in regards to how they manage their business is appalling.

Hopefully this will be a serious wake up call for them.
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free playstation 3s for all!

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I just got an e-mail saying my personal information has been compromised, and my dad apparently got one too. CRAP!!!