I Asked Sony Why It Hasn't Signed Johann Sebastian Joust

I feel like Sony has give up on Move. Hope some third party gets this on PSN

Is there really a complex and interesting story behind all of this or is it simply that there's little to no demand for it?

@Jazzycola said:

If I wanted to play this I could just buy a box of eggs and some spoons. It's a whole lot cheaper than buying 5 move controllers and a playstation eye.

Exactly! The fact that people are going apeshit over this whole JBJ thing is ridiculous. I played this in summer camp...when I was 9.

@ChrisTaran said:

@deathfromace: Never said it wasn't a game, it's not a videogame as there is no video component whatsoever.

There is a really cool game on the xbox360 that is a videogame and sold as such but there is no video component. Don't recall the name of it anymore but the premise was you are a blind troll and a human is lost in your cave (dont think where was explained) and you use sound to find your way to the human to eat them. A really cool game that uses no video....

@Jazzycola said:

If I wanted to play this I could just buy a box of eggs and some spoons. It's a whole lot cheaper than buying 5 move controllers and a playstation eye.

fuuuuuuuuuuck you're right

They showed their concept loooong ago and have yet to say anything about publishing or release. It seems like creative suicide to give others that long to take the concept (which to begin with is little more than a classic children's game).

This is what annoys me about the whole Papa Quash controversy, Ustwo put out a working game and it was available to play. Meanwhile, we are still waiting to see anything come about Joust. What if it never comes out and is just vaporware?

I want to throw Kleptok at another person. :(

Doesn't the developer stand to profit more from an iPhone/Android game like the one mentioned in the article? I don't know what people would pay for the game on PS Move, but 1-2 dollars in an app store sounds about right. Either that or hope Sony comes around and offers it as a pack-in with the Move.

@deathfromace: Never said it wasn't a game, it's not a videogame as there is no video component whatsoever.

@Video_Game_King: Noby Noby Boy and Linger in Shadows both say hi.

Sony is perfectly happy putting out weird non-games on their platform; I'd say this has more to do with the fact that this thing looks like a million lawsuits waiting to happen.

@Humanity said:

@Giefcookie said:

Most likely because no one owns a Move.

Or also the fact that PS3 is all about video games and JSJ apart from having a really awful name, has almost nothing to do with videogames as you don't even look at a TV. They would have to price it at below $5 or so for anyone to really care about purchasing what essentially is something you might find in a quirky 100 Party Games compilation.

Awful? This game's name is the best I have heard in a long long time. It's genuis actually, because once you've haeard it you probably won't forget it. Also, the game sounds great and I would love to play it - but I'm agreeing with you on your last point, the game does sound a bit small.

@Gordy said:

@ChrisTaran said:

Know why they haven't picked it up? It isn't a video game. Which is why this site should not have an article a month on the game.

Don't be a dick dude. GOD FORBID they talk about things like Cards Against Humanity, or Ticket to Ride, or tons of wide ranging stuff completely unrelated to games like pizza balls, energy drinks, movies, etc.

This is not a games-only site. It's a personality site with a focus on games. Holy fucking christ.

Also, since when has not being a videogame stopped Sony from purchasing cool stuff for the PS3? 4AM did not raise any eyebrows.

My biggest regret from E3 was that I didn't get to check this out. Saw it there, but I just walked on by. Really wish I hadn't. Game seems cool.

If I wanted to play this I could just buy a box of eggs and some spoons. It's a whole lot cheaper than buying 5 move controllers and a playstation eye.

@patrickklepek hey next time you do a YouTube video link for specific time you should use http://youtubetime.com/ to help with that instead of instructing readers to forward to a specific time in the video. It can be done manually but it is just a fast and simple way in case you forget.

@ChrisTaran said:

Know why they haven't picked it up? It isn't a video game. Which is why this site should not have an article a month on the game.

Don't be a dick dude. GOD FORBID they talk about things like Cards Against Humanity, or Ticket to Ride, or tons of wide ranging stuff completely unrelated to games like pizza balls, energy drinks, movies, etc.

This is not a games-only site. It's a personality site with a focus on games. Holy fucking christ.

How many people do you really think have the space to pull this off with 3 or more people? And also own more than 1 or 2 Move controllers?

It's the type of thing that is perfect for Microsoft's fake ideal Kinect setup advertisements and nothing else.

I don't think it will sell at all, much less last more than 10 minutes with anyone who does buy it. Seems pretty obvious why it isn't being picked up.

@ChrisTaran said:

Know why they haven't picked it up? It isn't a video game. Which is why this site should not have an article a month on the game.

How is it not a game?

Know why they haven't picked it up? It isn't a video game. Which is why this site should not have an article a month on the game.

Man, watching this Big Live Live segment make me want to buy it ! The concept is GENIUS !

JSJ does look like a very neat game, albeit not a video game.

Still, I don't have a move controller, or know anyone with a move controller, let alone 4 move controllers to make this game fun. An iPhone version makes a lot of sense, though.

@Ladnar said:

The More You Know. *jingle*

Intel Inside.

@Peanut said:

PSN only + people who actually own Move + people who've already written off Move and tossed in a box somewhere + people who want to play a game with expensive equipment that isn't a videogame + people who might want to play it but don't have the social group that would allow it = No market for this game, beyond a handful of people in the game industry who wouldn't have to pay money for it anyways, and very small groups of enthusiasts.

Did I figure it out?

Thats the jist of it - but game journalists love it!

The whole concept feels pretty vague so it seems like something that would be hard to license or whatnot since the rules to play are incredibly simple.

It feels like it'd do better as a stand alone party game, the PS3 and move are superfluous, it'd be smarter to just release it as that. Toy companies are already putting out cheap motion control toys for 20 bucks, Disney and Mattel have released a ton of children games with motion controls suitable enough for Joust.

PSN only + people who actually own Move + people who've already written off Move and tossed in a box somewhere + people who want to play a game with expensive equipment that isn't a videogame + people who might want to play it but don't have the social group that would allow it = No market for this game, beyond a handful of people in the game industry who wouldn't have to pay money for it anyways, and very small groups of enthusiasts.

Did I figure it out?

The More You Know. *jingle*

If you don't want to read all the comments, they're basically "I've never played this game and it's shit"

This may sound dismissive and pretentious as hell, but I'd say it's because it's less a video game and more a toy type of thing that happens to use a video game controller.

If Move wound up functional on PS4 along with all previous PS3 games, I would happily pick up move controllers and JSJ. But this is the end of a cycle; I can't spend $100+ on a party game at the end of a cycle!

sony should buy the game and use it as a home screen mini game when more than one controllers plugged in and no ones doing anything interesting on the menus. boom joust all the time

Seems like there isn't an overwhelming demand for it even here on the website.

It's dangerous and hard to sell people on the move game that does not use the ps3 or a tv. Why buy something you won't even

@patrickklepek said:

@Evercaptor said:

Still think that I would pay money for that iPhone version because I would rather play it than not play it.

I'm curious how they'd pull that off. It'd be so easy to break your phone.

Do you think that the hesitation to publish this game comes from the inherent risk of injury? I mean, you guys were throwing chairs and shoes and tackling each other, which could only lead to lawsuits and the like, right? If it's a Sony-endorsed product, there's going to be a chance for something real, real awful to happen to people playing it.

This is never coming out. It's too expensive to own so many move controllers, and the risk of breaking shit is too great for anyone to get behind it.
 
Also, I'm I the only one who thinks Patrick writes weirdly? It's something about the combination of first person and something else but I can't quite put my finger on it.
Weird weird weird.

I find this "game" to be extremely boring.

Yeah Sony why don't you try and monetize a niche title that requires people to buy some expensive peripherals no one cares about??????

Jean Buadein rules

@patrickklepek said:

@Evercaptor said:

Still think that I would pay money for that iPhone version because I would rather play it than not play it.

I'm curious how they'd pull that off. It'd be so easy to break your phone.

Do you think that the hesitation to publish this game comes from the inherent risk of injury? I mean, you guys were throwing chairs and shoes and tackling each other, which could only lead to lawsuits and the like, right? If it's a Sony-endorsed product, there's going to be a chance for something real, real awful to happen to people playing it.

@wilsonk said:

Does anyone actually care about JSJ outside of the GB staff? I don't know anyone who owns a Move controller nevermind 7 people who own one.

Exactly, this game doesn't look fun at all.

If i'm having a bunch of people around drinking and having fun, and i happen to own 7 move controllers i still wouldn't want to play this game.

It would have been cool if Papa Quash actually stayed on the store. Then I and others could actually play this game. Even if JSJ comes out (LOL NO) there is no way people are going to pick up a bunch of those Move controllers. At least nobody I know would.

Maybe a different hardware solution is needed. Something stand alone, cheaper and smaller. I know that's not easy but this really seems like something where a toy manufacturer would probably help a lot instead of Sony, Activision or Ubisoft.

Isn't the issue liability? Do you think Sony wants to publish a game with their name on it that encourages people to use Patrick as a battering ram ala the Big Live Live Show Live? Didn't Nintendo catch heat when kids were tossing their Wiimotes at each other? If I was in-house liability counsel for Sony I would be making the X sign in front of my chest ala Tokyo Game Show to signify my opinion as to whether Sony should publish.

think about it

Yes the game is fun.

BUT

How much money could it possibly make to justify the potential liability.

The other danger is that if Sony or some big company does pick it up or make something like it, it will be an ultra gimped version. Like "everyone touch your toes or the light will go off!" instead of trying to make others drop the remote or shake it etc.

I think they should make their own proprietary remotes with gyrscopes and sell the game on kickstarter or something.

I mean sure it doesn't have anything to do with video games really, but still you could potentially sell quite a few units. If the PS3 can do things other than play video games, why can't their peripherals do the same?

Does anyone actually care about JSJ outside of the GB staff? I don't know anyone who owns a Move controller nevermind 7 people who own one.

Tricky's big scoop here is "yeah, I dunno"?

It would probably be a substantial legal hassle to make sure you can't be sued for any injuries or destroyed property.

I still don't really understand the fervor over Papa Quash. So no one is allowed to make anything like this game even for other platforms?

Its funny, I clicked on the article to figure out who John Joust was and now I have become a fan of Jean Baudlin and his 10 string bass.

Wouldn't this game just be a big PR nightmare for Sony if they were to fully embrace it?

Like when the Wii first came out and loads of people threw their Wii Remotes into their TVs.