Konami Not Patching Silent Hill HD on Xbox 360 Because, Well, It's Hard

@poobone said:

FYI I emailed Konami and they apologized and said if I bought the game new prior to 8/8/2012, I could exchange it for any game on this list. I'll be getting the Silent Hill HD Collection on PS3.

Platform	Product Title
NDS	BEYBLADE: METAL FUSION (Hudson)
	BEYBLADE: METAL MASTERS (Hudson)
	Deca Sports (Hudson)
	Yu-Gi-Oh! World Championship 2007
	Yu-Gi-Oh! 5D's World Championship 2011 Over the Nexus
3DS	Pro Evolution Soccer 2011 3DS (PES 2011)
	Pro Evolution Soccer 2012 3DS (PES 2012)
	Frogger 3DS
	Doctor Lautrec and the Forgotten Knights
	Metal Gear Solid 3DS
	Nikolis Pencil Puzzle
	Deca Sports Freedom
Wii	BEYBLADE: METAL FUSION (Hudson)
	Castlevania Judgement
	Dance Dance Revolution (2010)
	Dance Dance Revolution II (2011)
	Dance Dance Revolution II (2011) Bundle
	Dance Dance Revolution Hottest Party 2
	Deca Sports (Hudson)
	Deca Sports 2 (Hudson)
	Deca Sports 3 (Hudson)
	Def Jam Rapstar
	Dewy's Adventure
	Fishing Master (Hudson)
	Karaoke Revolution Glee
	Karaoke Revolution Glee vol. 2
	Karaoke Revolution Glee vol. 3
	Marble Saga Kororinpa (Hudson)
	Pro Evolution Soccer 2008 (PES 2008)
	Pro Evolution Soccer 2012 (PES 2012)
	Rooms: The Main Building (Hudson)
	The Cages: Pro Style Batting Practice
	Wing Island (Hudson)
	Yu-Gi-Oh 5D's: Wheelie Breakers
PS2	Contra: Shattered Soldier
	Frogger: The Great Quest
	Karaoke Revolution Party
	Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty
	Metal Gear Solid 2 Substance
	Metal Gear Solid Essential Collection
	Silent Hill: Shattered Memories
	SLAI: Steel Lancer Arena International
	Suikoden III
	Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
	Yu Gi Oh! Duelists of the Roses
PS3	Birds of Steel
	Blades of Time
	Castlevania Lords of Shadow
	Castlevania Lords of Shadow LE
	Dance Dance Revolution (2010) Bundle
	Hellboy The Science of Evil
	Karaoke Revolution Bundle (2009) Bundle
	Lucha Libre AAA Heroes Del Ring
	Metal Gear Solid HD
	Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots (MGS4)
	Neverdead
	Pro Evolution Soccer 2009 (PES 2009)
	Pro Evolution Soccer 2011 (PES 2011)
	Pro Evolution Soccer 2012 (PES 2012)
	Silent Hill HD
	Silent Hill Downpour
PSP	Metal Gear Solid Portable Ops Plus
	Metal Gear Solid Peace Walker
	Pro Evolution Soccer 2012
	Rengoku
	Yu-Gi-Oh! GX Tag Force 5
XBOX 360	Adrenalin Misfits
	Birds of Steel
	Blades of Time
	Castlevania Lords of Shadow
	Castlevania Lords of Shadow LE
	Dance Masters (Kinect)
	DDR Universe 3 bundle
	DDR (2010) Bundle
	Deca Sports Freedom (Kinect)
	Jimmy Johnson
	Karaoke Revolution (2009) Bundle
	KR Glee vol. 3
	Lucha Libre AAA Heroes Del Ring
	Metal Gear Solid HD
	Neverdead
	Otomedius Excellent
	Otomedius Excellent LE
	Pro Evolution Soccer 2011 (Latin America - 30101 )
	Pro Evolution Soccer 2011 (Canada/US)
	Pro Evolution Soccer 2012 (Latin America - 30126)
	Pro Evolution Soccer 2012 (Canada/US)
	Rock Revolution
	Rumble Roses
	Silent Hill Downpour
XBOX	AirForce Delta Storm
	Bloody Roar Extreme
	Castlevania:Curse of Darkness
	DDR Ultramix
	DDR Ultramix 2
	DDR Ultramix 3 bundle
	DDR Ultramix 4 bundle
	ESPN International Sports 2002
	Frogger Beyond
	Karaoke Revolution Party Game
	King Arthur
	Konami Classics vol1
	Konami Classics vol2
	Metal Gear Solid 2 Substance
	Silent Hill 2: Restless Dreams
	Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
	Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2
	TMNT Nightmare
	Whiteout
	Winning Eleven 9
	WTA Tour Tennis
	Xiaolin Showdown

Not a bad list.

It probably cost 50 or 60 thousand of developer time to move this crap across to the two platforms, then it probably only made 20 or 30 thousand in sales after everyone's cut, then you have a platform it's free to patch on and one that isn't. You're not complete jerks so you still use a programmers time to fix the issues on one platform. I guess after that they didn't see the value in doing that AND paying 40 grand for the honour to patch the other platform.

Here's the real question though, how did it get onto the 360 in the first place with such bad bugs? Don't they have to jump through a thousand hoops in the first place, or is there only quality control for patches?

@hermes: You are seriously overestimating how much this "game" sold

@Devil240Z said:

Whatever. If the PS3 was the one not getting patched no one would say shit.

Yup, you cracked the code! Just a bunch of rampant fanboys around here! No gamers that care about the industry and how publishers treat their broken games post-release, but just a bunch of Xbox 360 fanboys whining about their game not being fixed as it should! Way to read between the lines.

@Godlyawesomeguy said:

@Devil240Z said:

Whatever. If the PS3 was the one not getting patched no one would say shit.

Yup, you cracked the code! Just a bunch of rampant fanboys around here! No gamers that care about the industry and how publishers treat their broken games post-release, but just a bunch of Xbox 360 fanboys whining about their game not being fixed as it should! Way to read between the lines.

Someone needs to invent a [dont take me so seriously] tag for forum posts...

That's really shitty. I'm glad I hadn't purchased this yet. Was waiting for a patch that will apparently never come.

This is Konami we're talking about here. A company that hasn't done a single thing competently in the last two years. Even the one legitimately good game they released, Metal Gear Solid HD Collection, was released on the same day as Modern Warfare 3. I would not be surprised to find out this company is run by chimps.

I typically avoid titles from most Japanese publishers/developers because overall the games they make seem to be too formulaic, but now it seems that some of them don't even bother to support their games when they have major bugs in them.

Is that a Shiba Inu?

That game is not worth saving for 40 grand.

I'm not a Silent Hill fan but I feel bad for everyone who's having these issues.

The porting company probably fired the only Xbox guy and now they don't know what to do with the 360 code.

@Devil240Z said:

Someone needs to invent a [dont take me so seriously] tag for forum posts...

lolwut? :-)

@mr_shoeless said:

@Devil240Z said:

Someone needs to invent a [dont take me so seriously] tag for forum posts...

lolwut? :-)

You know like a spoiler tag.

@Shensai said:

Konami never liked Microsoft to begin with. Racists.

It is more than just a little suspect that they only patch the version released on the Japanese system. A lot of Japanese devs really don't like the 360.

Also, this has got to be the lamest excuse not to patch a game ever.

Stay classy Konami....

@Devil240Z said:

@mr_shoeless said:

@Devil240Z said:

Someone needs to invent a [dont take me so seriously] tag for forum posts...

lolwut? :-)

You know like a spoiler tag.

I was subtly communicating that I believe the smiley face is already the internationally recognized symbol for "don't take this so seriously."

This is one of the first realisations I have seen of my biggest fear during the current generation. Game companies no longer have to worry about getting games out the door working and of a high quality, and people accept it because, HEY PATCH IN THE WORKS.

Well guess what, there isn't one, they have your money, nyah nyah.

Disgusting, and I predict the first of many such cases.

@Skanker: And you are seriously underestimating the size of Konami's pocket.

The "its too costly and too hard to fix it on the 360 (but not on the PS3)" excuse can be understandable in the case of indie developers and rare occurring bugs like Fish, but from a company that makes a lot more than 40k for every game they sell, and a "game" that has serious, easily reproducible issues, its inexcusable.

At that point, one could also argue what is the point of working on a patch for one platform and not the others...

I can count the number of Konami games I own on a closed fist.

What a piece of shit company. Only thing they're mildly competent at is Bemani arcade games and slot machines. I'll rent or buy used if at all.

PS3 owners get patch

360 owners get a free fucking game. and were not talking about some shit, pretty solid selection like mgs collection, lord of shadows, or really rare ps2 games.

@flanker22 said:

PS3 owners get patch

360 owners get a free fucking game. and were not talking about some shit, pretty solid selection like mgs collection, lord of shadows, or really rare ps2 games.

Except for the fact that you need a receipt. And I doubt a lot of people who own this game have kept their receipt.

@mr_shoeless said:

@Devil240Z said:

@mr_shoeless said:

@Devil240Z said:

Someone needs to invent a [dont take me so seriously] tag for forum posts...

lolwut? :-)

You know like a spoiler tag.

I was subtly communicating that I believe the smiley face is already the internationally recognized symbol for "don't take this so seriously."

Only girls use smiley faces. ... men use kitty cats :3

silent hill hd is 1080p on 360 and only 720 on ps3!

This makes me sad.  :(

You know, I sit here and laugh as I read this again...

...because you all honestly voted that EA is the worst company out there. So sad...

@Buman said:

Is that a Shiba Inu?

Yes and he is the mystery dog behind Silent Hill.

Actually..... Konamis doing something better that I haven't seen any site report on. If you have a receipt, you can send the game into konami and they will send a replacement copy. Its on their official facebook page

Or a free game should I say.

@hermes: Oh, I don't care about this situation or their money. I just don't think you can argue that the game sold enough to be able to comfortably cover the costs of the patching by itself.

Konami being Konami.

wow, now thats harsh move :/

"Technical issues and resources."

lol

It sounds like "You're not worth it" to me.

@thechronodarkness said:

Actually..... Konamis doing something better that I haven't seen any site report on. If you have a receipt, you can send the game into konami and they will send a replacement copy. Its on their official facebook page

Only if you bought it before the announcement was made. They're not removing it - a broken product - from sale. If you don't follow publisher announcments you may not know, and buy it anyway.

Cynical.

dick move, Konami

@jakob187 said:

You know, I sit here and laugh as I read this again...

...because you all honestly voted that EA is the worst company out there. So sad...

Because you couldn't vote on a Japanese company.

And because EA is the worst company. ( well atleast within videogame publishing. )

This reminds me of when they decided not to patch the messed up inverted camera controls of Silent Hill Homecoming, bought that at Best Buy for $10 and found out why... Still haven't played it because of those controls, I like inverted and wont change for just 1 game!! I guess the Silent Hill fanbase isn't important enough. Glad Capcom treats the Resident evil fanbase better then this.

Maybe the HD collection didn't sell enough on 360 to warrant a fix in their eyes. Still, poor treatment of customers on Konami's part.

@Zabant said:

This is one of the first realisations I have seen of my biggest fear during the current generation. Game companies no longer have to worry about getting games out the door working and of a high quality, and people accept it because, HEY PATCH IN THE WORKS.

Well guess what, there isn't one, they have your money, nyah nyah.

Disgusting, and I predict the first of many such cases.

BREAKING NEWS!: They NEVER cared. Take stuff like KOTOR 2 that was shoved-out unfinished. I'd far rather live in a time where games can be fixed. Yes, it would be great if games where bug-free all of the time, but stuff like making a release date has HUGE implications on sales, and if there are no sales, then no company, and thus no games.

Damn Konami, what is the deal.

This is a good example of how not to treat your consumers.

@flanker22 said:

PS3 owners get patch

360 owners get a free fucking game. and were not talking about some shit, pretty solid selection like mgs collection, lord of shadows, or really rare ps2 games.

Oh yay, so it's ok to buy a game you really wanted and not be able to play it as long as they give you a totally different game for free...

My roommate owns this HD remake and it's complete fucking garbage, lazy garbage. I don't care if you get 50 free games. If you can't play the one you bought and wanted then it's not ok. It's bribery.

Finished Silent Hill 2, turned on 3. 3 definitely had a better time of it than 2. 3 actually looks pretty good. 2 has a lot of weird issues, the lighting isn't right, there's weird filters all over the screen, screen transitions take way too long considering the technology. All of those aren't present in 3, so I have to assume its because 2 was the one they didn't get the final code for.

What the hell is with Japanese companies (all companies, really) and not holding on to the gold, final masters? How fucking stupid do you have to be to just lose that shit, and then send unfinished code out for the remaster? You see it in the West, too, with EA (or more specifically, Paul Barnett) trying to find the last master for Command & Conquer. Stories from Japan of like old cardboard boxes kept in a storage locker somewhere that have the final code for old Sega games, or code printed onto paper. It's nuts. Thank fuck they seem to have things under control now. I'd hate to be in 2025 and get the Call of Duty dodecology and have MW1 not working properly because it's alpha code that they spent two weeks trying to patch up.

<whew> I came so close to buying this. Thank Zeus, I did not.

@Brodehouse said:

@agentboolen Haha yeah, that game fucked me up. I've spent the last decade playing inverted and then I had to learn default for this one game. Ended up gettin the full thousand on it, too.

I want to play it but that inverted screw up is really keeping me away from that game. There are just way to many games that have inverted correctly implemented just to change for one game, I don't get it back in the 90's inverted was default! One day I might play it but until then the box will just keep gathering dust.... It'll probably just get a half fast cash in re-released on the next systems with the inverted fix and I'll make the mistake of buying that version just to have the audio be glitched like this HD collection.

I remember the original release of this game in graphic detail. I was working with a company called mmo-play.com and they somehow got their hands on an advanced copy. We were all huddled around the office taking turns running around the city. It was one of the first games to scare the crap out of me (Although Dino Crisis freaked me out pretty bad... I don't get it.. I can kill zombies in Resident Evil and not flinch, but add dinosaurs and I'm out, yo.) Anyway, I still love this game. One of the best shooter/horror games of all time. And the movie wasn't too horrible!