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Leaked Q&A Doc Confirms Kinect/Xbox 360 Bundles

And what may be a $199 version of the redesign.

It appears as if Microsoft will do the sensible thing and offer Xbox 360 bundles with its hands-free Kinect controller, as well as possibly offer a $199 version of the sleeker and sexier redesigned Xbox 360--if a leaked internal Q&A has it right.

Kotaku obtained an internal Microsoft document over the weekend, which allegedly says that Kinect will be sold as "part of a bundle with the newly designed Xbox 360 console" in addition to being sold stand-alone.

This is a no-brainer move. Like HGH, everyone is doing it. But Microsoft's lips have remained tighter than Umbrella after a zombie accident... or a corporation that wants to control the PR cycle for a gadget that it believes can extend this hardware generation.  
 
Microsoft hasn't publicly commented on bundles, despite the device's recent unveil at E3 2010, and in spite of how obvious and advantageous the move is.

The price of Kinect hasn't been announced either, but retailers haven't been as quiet. Several are listing a stand-alone Kinect unit at $150.   

Aside from Kinect bundles, the Q&A doc also has a special question about a $199 console, asking simply "Will you sell a $199 version of the new Xbox 360?" In the answer, Microsoft confirms plans to offer one this fall, though, to be generous, the wording is vague. It makes no mention of whether this planned console will be an Arcade unit or a redesigned Xbox 360. But it would be rather silly to offer a stripped down white console--for fifty dollars more, no less--after all these shiny black beasts get out in the wild, no?

I'm in the process of retrieving comment from Microsoft. In advance, I'm guessing it'll be "Microsoft does not comment on rumors or speculation."    
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Posted by BradNicholson

It appears as if Microsoft will do the sensible thing and offer Xbox 360 bundles with its hands-free Kinect controller, as well as possibly offer a $199 version of the sleeker and sexier redesigned Xbox 360--if a leaked internal Q&A has it right.

Kotaku obtained an internal Microsoft document over the weekend, which allegedly says that Kinect will be sold as "part of a bundle with the newly designed Xbox 360 console" in addition to being sold stand-alone.

This is a no-brainer move. Like HGH, everyone is doing it. But Microsoft's lips have remained tighter than Umbrella after a zombie accident... or a corporation that wants to control the PR cycle for a gadget that it believes can extend this hardware generation.  
 
Microsoft hasn't publicly commented on bundles, despite the device's recent unveil at E3 2010, and in spite of how obvious and advantageous the move is.

The price of Kinect hasn't been announced either, but retailers haven't been as quiet. Several are listing a stand-alone Kinect unit at $150.   

Aside from Kinect bundles, the Q&A doc also has a special question about a $199 console, asking simply "Will you sell a $199 version of the new Xbox 360?" In the answer, Microsoft confirms plans to offer one this fall, though, to be generous, the wording is vague. It makes no mention of whether this planned console will be an Arcade unit or a redesigned Xbox 360. But it would be rather silly to offer a stripped down white console--for fifty dollars more, no less--after all these shiny black beasts get out in the wild, no?

I'm in the process of retrieving comment from Microsoft. In advance, I'm guessing it'll be "Microsoft does not comment on rumors or speculation."    
Edited by TheCreamFilling

The only way I'll get a Kinect is either: less than $100 or a good bundle. 

Posted by The_Laughing_Man

 Q: Will you sell a $199 version of the new Xbox 360?
A: We will offer a $199 Xbox 360 this fall.    

That can just mean they are gonna offer the new one with much smaller hard drive at a lower price.  
 
If the price is correct so far. Kinect still seems a bit expensive for 150 bucks. And full 60 dollar games. 
Posted by Krenor

it makes sense, so why not

Posted by Belonpopo

Didn't see that coming!!!

Posted by AhmadMetallic

who gives a fuck 
 
 
alot of people do. Sorry my apologies

Posted by Zeninnnnnnnn
@The_Laughing_Man:  If I'm not mistaken I believe that the first party Kinect games are priced at $40.
Posted by ZeForgotten

Back when it was called Project Natal they said that they would have a 360/Natal bundle coming. 
But when they changed the name I was sure it wasn't gonna happen! 
Oh wait.

Posted by Kifftopher

Are those 120gig xbox360slims they saw at best buy what they'll sell for 199?  Did they accidentally ship some early?

Posted by colinjw

I don't have to get one. I just want to get one.

Posted by Winternet

150 seems way too expensive. It's a very tough sell.

Posted by Meteora

They need to lower the pricing of Kinect, even if it means that they're losing money. I have a feeling that the technology might be too far beyond its time to be commercially profitable. Still, I'll wait until Microsoft announces its price tag and that hopefully third parties start developing genuinely good games for the hardware. 
 
Also I wonder how they're going to work out with the Xbox 360 Slim arcade. They'll probably need to ship with a small HDD since there's a stockpile of older 360s left to be sold.

Posted by Dantekiller

M$ will always over price a peace of crap and tell you its gold the new slim x360 is the same it still over heats natal suck and i dont care to call it kinect 

Posted by jessej07
@Dantekiller: you're my favorite stereotype!
Posted by Waffles13

I really, really hope they ship a Slim 360 with a smaller hard drive for $200. That way, it'll come with the proprietary HDD case and I can slap my illicit 250 gig drive in from my current 360 for cheap.

Posted by Dantekiller
@jessej07: thx i try my best muhahaha you are reading this
Posted by skrutop

News is interesting!

Posted by Parsnip

The $199 unit will be a stripped down version without the internal wi-fi and a smaller hdd (or no hdd at all).

Posted by AzHP
@Waffles13: Sorry to burst your bubble, but the new 360 has a different proprietary hard drive than the old one.
Edited by sickVisionz

I might be imagining things, but I'd swear that Microsoft announced that they'd be bundling Kinect + 250gb 360 for $399 or was that Sony?  I wouldn't be surprised to see Kinect + Arcade Slim for $299. 
 
What I would be interested in knowing is how much memory the new slim will come with.  If it comes with any, even if it's just a 16gb flash card, I could see them dropping the Elite Slim and having three pricepoints: 
$199 Slim, $299 Slim+Kinect, $399 Elite+Kinect. 
 
Multiple SKUs at the same price point (my assumed $299 kinect bundle and the 250gb Elite) would be a bad move

Posted by The_Laughing_Man
@Zeninnnnnnnn said:
" @The_Laughing_Man:  If I'm not mistaken I believe that the first party Kinect games are priced at $40. "
All 60 bucks
Posted by illmatic19
@The_Laughing_Man said:
"

 Q: Will you sell a $199 version of the new Xbox 360?
A: We will offer a $199 Xbox 360 this fall.    

That can just mean they are gonna offer the new one with much smaller hard drive at a lower price.   If the price is correct so far. Kinect still seems a bit expensive for 150 bucks. And full 60 dollar games.  "
Or no hard drive at all.
Posted by crusnchill

I still like how Microsoft approached their red ring problem. 
 
You know, to get rid of the red LED's entirely. Really solves the issue doesn't it?  ;-p 
 
Hopefully the fact that they've gotten rid of those LED's is a sign that they've finally completely solved what causes RROD. 

Posted by zombie2011

I wouldn't mind a 60-80GB model being released for $199, i'd buy that.
 
I don't need 250GB of space seeing i only install the game i'm currently playing on my HDD and i only have 20 or so XBLA games. 

Posted by gunslingerNZ

I think Kinect will sell for $139 or $129. After all the negative reactions to the $150 price point Microsoft would be silly not to drop it a little unless they really don't have any more flexibility on margins at all.
 
The biggest disappointment of it all will be if they are charging $60 for Kinect games. I don't think they showed a single title at E3 worthy of being a full priced game.

Posted by mordecaix7

I think the $199 version of the 360 Slim will include wifi but the difference will be the hard drives:

  • No hard drive included
  • Smaller, 60gb or 120gb hard drive included
I'm more apt to lean toward the no hard drive inclusion so they can make a buck off selling the new slim hard drives.
Posted by Peacemaker

I think Kinect will end up being bundled with a game.  Either that or you may end up being able to buy a Dance central game with the kinect.  I would buy that in a heartbeat.

Posted by MeatSim

Bundle seems like a good deal if it's true.

Posted by hpv
@gunslingerNZ said:
" I think Kinect will sell for $139 or $129. After all the negative reactions to the $150 price point Microsoft would be silly not to drop it a little unless they really don't have any more flexibility on margins at all.  The biggest disappointment of it all will be if they are charging $60 for Kinect games. I don't think they showed a single title at E3 worthy of being a full priced game. "
I don't think they showed a single game worthy of being priced at $15 on XBLA.
Posted by Zereta
@hpv said:
" @gunslingerNZ said:
" I think Kinect will sell for $139 or $129. After all the negative reactions to the $150 price point Microsoft would be silly not to drop it a little unless they really don't have any more flexibility on margins at all.  The biggest disappointment of it all will be if they are charging $60 for Kinect games. I don't think they showed a single title at E3 worthy of being a full priced game. "
I don't think they showed a single game worthy of being priced at $15 on XBLA. "
I thought they showed at least 6 games that I would pay full retail price. Maybe we saw a different list?
Posted by gunslingerNZ
@Zereta: Maybe you've got looser purse strings than most.
Posted by Radar
@Dantekiller said:
" M$ will always over price a peace of crap and tell you its gold the new slim x360 is the same it still over heats natal suck and i dont care to call it kinect  "
Saying M$ makes you look like a complete fucking idiot
Posted by Dantekiller
@Radar said:
" @Dantekiller said:
" M$ will always over price a peace of crap and tell you its gold the new slim x360 is the same it still over heats natal suck and i dont care to call it kinect  "
Saying M$ makes you look like a complete fucking idiot "
this coming from a fucktard, i wonder what made you think i give a fuck what you think oh and by the way ill call it what ever the fuck i want get over your self your the one looking like a  high functioning retard for getting mad at some bull shit i wrote 
Posted by Radar
@Dantekiller said:
" @Radar said:
" @Dantekiller said:
" M$ will always over price a peace of crap and tell you its gold the new slim x360 is the same it still over heats natal suck and i dont care to call it kinect  "
Saying M$ makes you look like a complete fucking idiot "
this coming from a fucktard, i wonder what made you think i give a fuck what you think oh and by the way ill call it what ever the fuck i want get over your self your the one looking like a  high functioning retard for getting mad at some bull shit i wrote  "
u mad bro?
Posted by Dantekiller
@Radar said:
" @Dantekiller said:
" @Radar said:
" @Dantekiller said:
" M$ will always over price a peace of crap and tell you its gold the new slim x360 is the same it still over heats natal suck and i dont care to call it kinect  "
Saying M$ makes you look like a complete fucking idiot "
this coming from a fucktard, i wonder what made you think i give a fuck what you think oh and by the way ill call it what ever the fuck i want get over your self your the one looking like a  high functioning retard for getting mad at some bull shit i wrote  "
u mad bro? "
like i said i dont care im just having fun typing shit i dont care to get mad or have the time for bull shit cya going to sleep
Posted by Radar
@Dantekiller said:
" @Radar said:
" @Dantekiller said:
" @Radar said:
" @Dantekiller said:
" M$ will always over price a peace of crap and tell you its gold the new slim x360 is the same it still over heats natal suck and i dont care to call it kinect  "
Saying M$ makes you look like a complete fucking idiot "
this coming from a fucktard, i wonder what made you think i give a fuck what you think oh and by the way ill call it what ever the fuck i want get over your self your the one looking like a  high functioning retard for getting mad at some bull shit i wrote  "
u mad bro? "
like i said i dont care im just having fun typing shit i dont care to get mad or have the time for bull shit cya going to sleep "
You spew a lot of it for someone who doesn't have time for it
Posted by Cubical

Fuck black  and 250gb 
 
Where is the bundle with a hard  drive bigger than 250gb  and some other color that is not fucking boring like shiny xbox green hell I will even take shiny white.

Posted by xaveri

Microsoft has the Kinect on their own website at $150. Check it out...
 
 http://store.microsoft.com/microsoft/Kinect-Sensor-for-Xbox-360/product/C737B081

Posted by hpv
@Zereta said:
I thought they showed at least 6 games that I would pay full retail price. Maybe we saw a different list? "
I think it's more likely that I just have taste.  But I'm open minded, what're these 6 games that you'd pay full price for that Microsoft showed off on Kinect at E3?