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LeBron James And The Changing NBA Multiplayer Dynamic

What does the Miami Heat's new dominance mean for NBA 2K11?

A new power triangle means new power rankings for NBA 2K11, as the Miami Heat are sure to slide up the boards with its oncoming free agent class starring Dwayne Wade, Chris Bosh, and "King" LeBron James. But will users respond to the inevitable climb, too? I'm guessing they will, though, I could be wrong.

With a theory in mind, I asked NBA 2K representative Chris Snyder for information on NBA 2K10's most-used teams in multiplayer. He responded with some data that isn't helping me feel better about my suspicions.

The top five teams used in NBA 2K10's multiplayer are, in order, according to Snyder: the Cleveland Cavaliers, the Los Angeles Lakers, the Denver Nuggets, the Orlando Magic, and the Boston Celtics
 

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== TEASER ==The theory? It's simple: with its new trifecta of talent, the Miami Heat will become the dominant team picked in this year's version of the game. Unfortunately, with the game not yet out in press or consumers' hands, this is impossible to prove. I thought existing rankings would shed some light on the issue, but what Snyder shared with me doesn't actually make me feel confident in my theory.
 
Here are the two things I observed from the data, the latter of which has me scratching my head.

First: the Shaq-Lebron tandem in Cleveland was enough to push the Cavs over the edge, beating out even recent title holders like the Lakers. If Lebron had that much of an impact for Cleveland, a team with a bad supporting cast, surely he would push Miami, a team that made the top ten last year, over the edge in 2K11. 

Second: But wait! Interestingly, the Boston Celtics, a team with their own trifecta composed of NBA greats Paul Pierce, Ray Allen, and Kevin Garnett placed fifth. It's a spot lower than even the Denver Nuggets, who don't have near the star power. Could this mean that there's a chance Miami won't place first and beat the obvious? Maybe.

Snyder reckons, like I do, that the Heat will move to number one on the list when 2K11 hits later this year, but he did add that free agency isn't over. Other teams, like the New York Knicks, might have some surprises up their sleeves. Regardless, the Celtics tell me that this isn't such a cut-and-dried thing, and the Heat, even with new star power, might not have that much of an impact.

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@suikoden352: Again, you're talking out of your ass. The team got the fans they needed (till your boy Bennett pulled a "Major League" and got rid of all the players the fans were attached to with the purpose of losing and alienating the fanbase). It's not the fans fault that the stadium was designed small when it was remodeled in 95-96. I would expect nothing less than OK supporting the team because then the move would have been a complete waste of one of the best basketball environments in the country. Talk to any NBA player that played a playoff game in Seattle, and they'll tell you about a place they never want to have to play again. The intimacy of the stadium combined with some of the loudest fans in sports made for a very special place to play the game.  
I can't possibly "win", because nothing I can say will suddenly cause Bennett to have a heart attack and force a move back to Seattle. But seriously, I can't imagine supporting a team that moved in from somewhere else (and I include any possible future NBA team in that). I guess major league cities just don't have to experience that, getting expansion teams instead.  
 
Edit: If you guys don't care about the Sonics wins and losses, than why did you take them with you? Why didn't you leave them here like you did with the Storm? Why don't you say anything when ESPN or NBA.com runs a special on the "best Thunder players in history" and it includes guys like Payton?
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" @suikoden352: There's absolutely no reason for instigating problems and/or namecalling. 
 
@AgentJ: You can't do much about a team that was moved because the federal and local governments both denied funding for updates on an arena, even before they were bought out by Bennett.  In the end, both of you are arguing something pointless.  The team is moved, nothing can be done about that, and moreover, I would say that letting 40 years of basketball history die because you've got a beef about it being moved to a different city and state...is kind of doofy.  The Tennessee Titans used to be the Houston Oilers.  A lot of people were butt-hurt about it, but in the end, look at what happened to the Titans - they went on to being a pretty great team when they moved, even going so far as to FINALLY SEEING A SUPER BOWL.  If anything, I would expect that a fan of the Supersonics would want to see the guys that brought them a ton of memories creating new ones for Oklahoma City.  It's all politics, but in the end, enjoy sports for the love of the game, not for all the bullshit trading of players and teams moving to different cities. "

The team had just gotten a remodel of the arena 10-15 years prior. The commissioner called it a fantastic place to play. Frankly, I love that building. It really was a great basketball arena.  
Do you really think people in Houston were ever rooting for the Titans? 
Do you think people in Baltimore cheered for the Indianapolis Colts?  
What about the Rams and Raiders after they left LA?  
It doesn't work that way, especially in a place like Seattle, where the fans put everything out there with their teams. The city has the loudest football, basketball, and soccer venues in the United States because of how much the teams mean to them. 
If someone stole your wedding ring, would you just hope that whoever stole it enjoyed it? It doesn't make any sense. 
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@jakob187:  i'm not the one instigating problems but i'm sorry if you see it that way. i stand by my words and also what i called him but if it offended you then i'm sorry for that was well but i still stand by them. i'm not the one that started the argument if you go back but i'm not gonna get into this anymore. it's stupid and pointless to reason. i've said what i'm gonna say. i'm off to do better things with my time.
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@suikoden352: There's absolutely no reason for instigating problems and/or namecalling. 
 
@AgentJ: You can't do much about a team that was moved because the federal and local governments both denied funding for updates on an arena, even before they were bought out by Bennett. 
 
In the end, both of you are arguing something pointless.  The team is moved, nothing can be done about that, and moreover, I would say that letting 40 years of basketball history die because you've got a beef about it being moved to a different city and state...is kind of doofy.  The Tennessee Titans used to be the Houston Oilers.  A lot of people were butt-hurt about it, but in the end, look at what happened to the Titans - they went on to being a pretty great team when they moved, even going so far as to FINALLY SEEING A SUPER BOWL.  If anything, I would expect that a fan of the Supersonics would want to see the guys that brought them a ton of memories creating new ones for Oklahoma City. 
 
It's all politics, but in the end, enjoy sports for the love of the game, not for all the bullshit trading of players and teams moving to different cities.
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@AgentJ said:

" @suikoden352: Except you took all that with you too. You ripped out OUR HISTORY, OUR VICTORIES, and we can never get them back. Thats why there is ill-will towards the city, and not just the owners and the league.   Oh, and don't expect me to watch. I haven't seen a single game since the NBA died in Seattle.  "

 you are a serious dumb ass. we don't want your victories or your history. we have said that since day one. even the team has said that. we may have the records but we can always just give it back because honestly it's no good to us since the team is called the thunder. not the sonics. they came here with 0 wins and 0 loses. a new history to write of their own and new goals to achieve. if you don't keep up with the NBA then why even argue with me? i don't expect you to do anything. i would like it if you would just drop all this and just quit your bitching. if y'all wanna hate on Oklahoma then go ahead. we honestly don't care.  i don't care for the spurs but does anyone in san antonio care about the haters? no. not one bit. i'm done arguing with you because i have way better things i could be putting my time towards so if you want to hate then go ahead. i don't care and neither does the rest of Oklahoma. you are acting like the Cleveland fans when lebron left for Miami. he didn't owe them anything. he did what he saw was good for him and his family. the sonics got sold because they weren't getting the money they needed or the fans they needed. they saw potential here and we saw the opportunity and we took it. sorry if it went down in surprise to y'all but what is done is done and if you don't like it then go tell david stern and tell him to give ya'll another team. i don't care for arguing with you anymore. say that you won if you want. i don't care anymore. i am out.
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@suikoden352: Except you took all that with you too. You ripped out OUR HISTORY, OUR VICTORIES, and we can never get them back. Thats why there is ill-will towards the city, and not just the owners and the league.  
 
Oh, and don't expect me to watch. I haven't seen a single game since the NBA died in Seattle. 
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@AgentJ:  y'all can keep your ring. y'all can keep your players from the past. y'all can keep the past memories of what was. the thunder are here in the present and the future going forward. we don't want gary and shawn. we have KD and westbrook. we may not have a ring yet but every year we get closer to one. yea, i say we like i'm on the team but the fans are a part of the team and we are all together to support the guys all the way every day. keep your history. i'll gladly give that up to have the present and future of the oklahoma city thunder. we're only gonna get better from here so get your popcorn cuz KD and the team are gonna be puttin on a good show day in and night out this season.
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@suikoden352 said:
" @AgentJ:  i don't wonder really. haters gonna hate. no big. the thunder are here to stay and that's that. if you wanna hate and cry over spilt milk then go ahead. me and the rest of oklahoma are just gonna sit back, relax, and enjoy the team like we have ever since day 1. "
And act like you have a NBA championship ring that you never earned? And pretend that Gary Payton and Shawn Kemp were among your greatest players in team history?
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@AgentJ:  i don't wonder really. haters gonna hate. no big. the thunder are here to stay and that's that. if you wanna hate and cry over spilt milk then go ahead. me and the rest of oklahoma are just gonna sit back, relax, and enjoy the team like we have ever since day 1.
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@suikoden352: ...And you wonder why the people who cried and bled for that team hate your ilk. Don't appreciate what you've got. 
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@AgentJ said:

" @suikoden352 said:

" @AgentJ:  more like y'all didn't care enough to show up for games and support the team enough until it was too late. y'all had your chance to make things right and now the team is better off with fans here who actually sell out the games and show deep strong support. y'all need to stop cryin about it. "

Yeah, you don't have a clue. Why don't you take a gander at this film and get one.  
Its not our fault that the owner and league checked off on an arena rebuild that was "out of date" in 5 years.  
Attendance was at capacity even through most of the decade of losers. It was only when your boy sold off all our players and gave people no hope and no team to watch that people left.  
And even if we were crying, we have full right to. WE HAD 40 YEARS OF HISTORY. Of course, OKC wouldn't know anything about that. 
  
  I hope that after 40 years some town in Nebraska or Alabama steals your team, lies about being "possessed" to keep the team in your city, so that you know what it feels like. But the way the NBA is now, you probably won't even have your team that long.  Watch the movie on the other side of that link, and you will have a FRACTION of an idea of how much this town cares about their team. Hell, they sold out KeyArena for SEATTLE STORM games this year. WNBA. Then you can tell us to forget about it.  "
cool story, bro. =/ QQ i so feel for ya. my deepest apologies. i never knew any of that stuff before now. the more i know. we'll return the team right back over to y'all real soon because Oklahoma is so not ever worthy nor ever has been. I'll get right on that. I'll even make a memo to not forget. i'll even call up espn and have them put your story up on a special espn movie as well. such a heartbreaker. brings me to tears.......
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@suikoden352 said:
" @AgentJ:  more like y'all didn't care enough to show up for games and support the team enough until it was too late. y'all had your chance to make things right and now the team is better off with fans here who actually sell out the games and show deep strong support. y'all need to stop cryin about it. "
Yeah, you don't have a clue. Why don't you take a gander at this film and get one.  
Its not our fault that the owner and league checked off on an arena rebuild that was "out of date" in 5 years.  
Attendance was at capacity even through most of the decade of losers. It was only when your boy sold off all our players and gave people no hope and no team to watch that people left.  
And even if we were crying, we have full right to. WE HAD 40 YEARS OF HISTORY. Of course, OKC wouldn't know anything about that. 
  
  I hope that after 40 years some town in Nebraska or Alabama steals your team, lies about being "possessed" to keep the team in your city, so that you know what it feels like. But the way the NBA is now, you probably won't even have your team that long.  
Watch the movie on the other side of that link, and you will have a FRACTION of an idea of how much this town cares about their team. Hell, they sold out KeyArena for SEATTLE STORM games this year. WNBA. Then you can tell us to forget about it. 
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@AgentJ:  more like y'all didn't care enough to show up for games and support the team enough until it was too late. y'all had your chance to make things right and now the team is better off with fans here who actually sell out the games and show deep strong support. y'all need to stop cryin about it.
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@suikoden352 said:
" @AgentJ:  hate all you want. don't matter to me. "
Yeah, thieves rarely display any remorse for the things they've stolen.
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@AgentJ:  hate all you want. don't matter to me.
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@suikoden352: Fuck. Oklahoma. City. 
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@Homer39 said:
" @AgentJ said:
" Screw the NBA.  
Long live the Sonics. "
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you mean long live the thunder??? lol KD is gonna tear it up this year.
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@fillmoejoe said:
" This just means everyone in multiplayer will pick the Heat. "
Yes, because as a Celtics fan, I want to win as the Heat.  
 
/sarcasm
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Stupidness.

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@DevWil: I know right, this site is about video games and-- wait
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PHOENIX SUNS 4 LIFE

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easy on the haterade guys

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Sports? 
 
*checks the website he is visiting* 
 
O_O  Cool!  Sports game news!!!

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@Levio: Dude, it even has COLA!
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While we are talking basketball, let's add this to the news page too:
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMweS2R4uyg&playnext_from=TL&videos=QLW9nj-E7kw&feature=grec_index

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Wow what important and amazing news!! Heat are gonna be the top played team in online! What!?

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@AgentJ said:
" Screw the NBA.  
Long live the Sonics. "
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ew his leg looks like beef jerky

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@Milkman said:

" Fuck LeBron. "

Yes. He is an egomaniac. Ripped out the heart of his fans. 
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I usually don't give a crap about sports games, especially basketball games, but I found this article surprisingly enjoyable. Just the simple fact that Brad N. took his "theory" and was able to make a real article out of it was something, idk, refreshing.
 
Or maybe I'm just up way too late

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@DevWil said:
" this might be the worst brad n article to date.  i feel bad being a hater, but...seriously. does he even know what website he's putting these stories on? "
Uh...what?
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I will continue to pick the Knicks and lose appropriately over the internet.

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@Milkman said:
"Fuck LeBron. "

Agreed! Carmelo Anthony's a much better player. Denver with love!
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@Raven_Sword: that was hilarious
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According to that picture, LeBron needs to do more squats. That's a fucking chicken leg.

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Dude, the celtics were old and they didn't have dominant players like Miami...that's why they were number 5.  Now Miami has arguably the 2 BEST players in the league and a great "power forward" that can get you 25 and 10 every night.  They WILL be the most used team.

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 No way gamb1t my old roommate ordered the NBA directtv package and watched EVERY SINGLE pathetic game the celtics played every single year, if he had to work he recorded it and watched when he got home. I think you would be surprised how seriously loyal celtics fans are through thick and thin.

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this might be the worst brad n article to date.  i feel bad being a hater, but...seriously.
 
does he even know what website he's putting these stories on?

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Why Boston is fifth: 
 
They have been that trio for several years now.  

Their trio is nowhere near as crazy talented than Lebron-Wade-Bosh (cept maybe Garnett is better than Bosh). 
 
Didn't win the championship the previous year. 
 
Their stars are old.
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@ThomasP said:
" @JJWeatherman said:
" @ThomasP said:
" @TJSmash said:
" Must be a slow news day. "
Actually, this is a great article. BradN has gone the extra mile here. Myself, being a HUGE fan of the 2K series, I'm quite impressed. The stats about the most used teams in 2K10 was pretty interesting and completely make sense from playing the game so much. It was nice to see him get in touch with Chris Snyder, as well. "
I too am a huge fan of the series and I found this article's existence perplexing.  Oh really? People tend to choose teams with good players on them? You don't say.  Brad N also seems to overlook the fact that Bostons big 3 are all over the hill and aren't the exciting and capable players they each once were earlier in their careers (Which makes them less fun in a video game). If you ask anyone if they'd rather play as the team with Carmelo, or the team with those 3 old guys, of course they'd choose the Nuggets. Also saying the Nuggets don't have anywhere near the star power of the Celtics is dumb. Carmelo alone almost has more star power. I'm not even a Nuggets fan, I'm just callin' it like I see it.  How about some news on how 2K11 is actually comin' along? "
What!? I don't find it perplexing at all. He's raising the point that even though Miami has the big three and everyone will choose them they still may not be the best team to play with in the game. In my opinion he raises a good point. The big three of the Celts whether you'd like to admit it or not are deadly with Rondo running the show in 2K10, but the Nuggets rebounding and like you say, Carmelo's speed and star power can overcome that.  Like I said, I found the numbers and orders of the best teams interesting. I did not know that before hand. I thought it was great, and I'm sure he would have let us know of anything else he could have. "  
 At no point did the article mention the "best" teams. It only talks about the ones used most in the online multiplayer. As I'm sure you know though, that data can't even be taken very seriously due to Team-Up mode and the fact that the system chooses the teams instead of the players. The majority of the time, it chooses Lakers vs. Magic too. If not Lakers vs. Magic, than it will choose some of those other 5 mentioned teams. It's rare that Team-Up mode dives very deep into the entire leagues depths. So yeah, skewed numbers. 

But really the thing about the article that I didn't care for was the lack of knowledge when it comes to general stuff. How can anyone call Cleveland's supporting cast "bad"? You don't win 60+ games in the NBA with a bad supporting cast. I mean come on, Mo Williams, Antwan Jamison, Zydrunas Ilgauskas, Anthony Parker, etc. They have awesome players. Unfortunately that team was built around LeBron so it will likely fall apart next year, but that's not really the point. 
 
Uggh. I just didn't like the article. More sports stuff though please, especially NBA stuff. As long as it's not stuff that everyone who cares already knows.
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Grand Theft Rondo will defeat all 3 of them @ once

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looks at picture: nothing wrong 
looks at caption: o_O something is wrong with that leg

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I always use the Detroit Pistons, no matter how bad they are. I can easily beat morons who pick those five teams usually, too.

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@JJWeatherman said:
" @ThomasP said:
" @TJSmash said:
" Must be a slow news day. "
Actually, this is a great article. BradN has gone the extra mile here. Myself, being a HUGE fan of the 2K series, I'm quite impressed. The stats about the most used teams in 2K10 was pretty interesting and completely make sense from playing the game so much. It was nice to see him get in touch with Chris Snyder, as well. "
I too am a huge fan of the series and I found this article's existence perplexing.  Oh really? People tend to choose teams with good players on them? You don't say.  Brad N also seems to overlook the fact that Bostons big 3 are all over the hill and aren't the exciting and capable players they each once were earlier in their careers (Which makes them less fun in a video game). If you ask anyone if they'd rather play as the team with Carmelo, or the team with those 3 old guys, of course they'd choose the Nuggets. Also saying the Nuggets don't have anywhere near the star power of the Celtics is dumb. Carmelo alone almost has more star power. I'm not even a Nuggets fan, I'm just callin' it like I see it.  How about some news on how 2K11 is actually comin' along? "

What!? I don't find it perplexing at all. He's raising the point that even though Miami has the big three and everyone will choose them they still may not be the best team to play with in the game. In my opinion he raises a good point. The big three of the Celts whether you'd like to admit it or not are deadly with Rondo running the show in 2K10, but the Nuggets rebounding and like you say, Carmelo's speed and star power can overcome that.
 
Like I said, I found the numbers and orders of the best teams interesting. I did not know that before hand. I thought it was great, and I'm sure he would have let us know of anything else he could have.
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@TJSmash said:
" Must be a slow news day. "
Nope. Some of the staff believe they will get more attention by posting this as news instead of in the forums.
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Fascinating.

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If I bought a Basketball game, I'd play as the Bulls.

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@ThomasP said:
" @TJSmash said:
" Must be a slow news day. "
Actually, this is a great article. BradN has gone the extra mile here. Myself, being a HUGE fan of the 2K series, I'm quite impressed. The stats about the most used teams in 2K10 was pretty interesting and completely make sense from playing the game so much. It was nice to see him get in touch with Chris Snyder, as well. "
I too am a huge fan of the series and I found this article's existence perplexing. 
 
Oh really? People tend to choose teams with good players on them? You don't say. 
 
Brad N also seems to overlook the fact that Bostons big 3 are all over the hill and aren't the exciting and capable players they each once were earlier in their careers (Which makes them less fun in a video game). If you ask anyone if they'd rather play as the team with Carmelo, or the team with those 3 old guys, of course they'd choose the Nuggets. Also saying the Nuggets don't have anywhere near the star power of the Celtics is dumb. Carmelo alone almost has more star power. I'm not even a Nuggets fan, I'm just callin' it like I see it. 
 
How about some news on how 2K11 is actually comin' along?
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SPORTS GAMES...

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LOL @ boston fans. buncha fakes anyways. they never used to support there team till ALL THE SUDDEN

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This just means everyone in multiplayer will pick the Heat.