Mass Effect 3 Wii U Includes Extended Cut DLC, But...

The existence of this game, as many have pointed out, is strange. Who in their right mind would pick this game up on the WiiU? Also, this makes me wonder how much work it took/is taking for EA to port it to the WiiU, and makes me question whether they actually see it as a sound investment, or if Nintendo is offering them some great incentive to port it over so they can say "Hey, look, we have third party support!" If they really wanted to claim massive third party support, they'd get EA to sell a bundle that has all three games included.

WON'T ANYONE THINK OF THE ARTISTIC INTEGRITY?

@ck1nd said:

Honestly, you would have to have a huge stick up your ass to care about this anymore.

No, that fucking ship sailed in April. If you still care about ME3 endings you've got to be sitting pretty on a Saint Row style dildo bat.

Patrick should stop filing his opinions as news.

Why would you even want to see the original endings?

Lovely. Can't understand why anyone would care about this anymore. Haven't played the extended cut, don't intend to either. Nothing can't fix those 15 last minutes.

@Spaceyoghurt said:

Lovely. Can't understand why anyone would care about this anymore. Haven't played the extended cut, don't intend to either. Nothing can't fix those 15 last minutes.

I am one of the few who actually enjoyed the original ending.

Haven't played the new cut as well and i don't intend to because i was fine with the ending.

Man the Internet made me so sick of mass effect to the point that I never want to see anything mass effect again. I agree with Patrick though an option to see the original intended endings should be present.

This is a stupid thing to take a stand on.

I respectfully disagree with Mr. Klepek's Op Ed here. Pistols at dawn, sir!

I've seen the original ending and post-credits coda on Youtube, and can safely say it is not a pristine artistic vision in need of preservation. It's a sloppy rush job, that may or may not be improved by post-launch additions. If Bioware/EA declare that the Extended Cut endings are the "real" endings for future players, that is totally valid.

If future generations are curious about the original, extra-crappy ending to ME3, they can still view it on the internet, where nothing is forgotten. Whatever your feelings about game authorship, the original authors of Mass Effect 3 "patched" their story. This version is the story now.

@MordeaniisChaos: Could not agree more.

While i like most of Patrick's articles, I can't ever really understand the ones about ME3. They all seem heavily rooted in Patrick's opinion of the situation which has never seemed very informed (even it it might be). So I don't understand the slant of all these ME3 articles and I think they just piggyback on the "entitled video gamer" coverage that this game first got. Its a shame. I mean, I don't know (personally, not "some guy in this thread") anybody who, after seeing the extended cut said "The first ones were better". I think that's because the first ones were exactly the same. You just ended up where you were going in 30 minutes instead of 5 and it feels like you got a better chance to say goodbye to a world that sucked up a hundred hours of your time instead of feeling like someone tore off your arm and ran out of the room.

I think this is totally a non issue and I guess I wonder where the question came from. Is this something Patrick just wanted to know based on his feelings regarding the revision or are people ACTUALLY asking this?

lol

Why is this still a big deal?

Giant Bomb's articles about the ME3 ending are all dumb.

@truckington said:

The entire controversy was completely overblown. Books and movie get their endings changed and edited all the time, even after release. Other games have already had their endings altered by post-release patches before this. It really wasn't the "AMG TEH END OF VIDJA GAEM ART" that people make it out to be. Such a huge fuss over such a insignificant event.

No. This never happened before ever. This copy of Fallout 3 I'm holding doesn't exist. Or this copy of Portal. God, if they added on to the ending of Portal it would've ruined the whole experience for everyone forever.

The endings are still bad on an objective and creative level. You don't end a story as big as Mass Effect with a fricken Deus Ex Machina ten minutes before the end.

That's bad storytelling!

My biggest issue with ME3's ending wasn't the way it ended, it was the way you chose the ending.

As for the WiiU version not getting the "original" versions, I don't see why someone would care. Later releases of a game (be it on a different system or a "gold" release) often have patches included. Especially in this day and age when you have youtube.

I preferred the original endings. The new ones are exposition hell for people with the brain size of mollusks.

Honestly, endings aside, who the hell is going to buy Mass Effect 3 on the Wii U?

"No, Wii U user, you won't be able to see the extremely shitty "endings" to ME3. Instead, you'll have to suffer the relatively less shitty "extended endings".

EA doesn't even know what to keep on being evil anymore.

@Landon: People that buy a Wii U?

The default Shepard in Mass Effect 3 was a goddamned idiot. Even if you don't pick "numerous" for crew deaths during the generation process, many major characters are still dead (jncluding Wrex) and most of the rest of ME2's cast didn't get their loyalty quests done, which means they're toast in ME3. You miss so much going into the game with that hamstrung set-up.

I'd honestly work on that improving that aspect than ensuring that players see the awful original endings, which were still just the new endings with less scenes to explain them, since anyone buying this for the Wii U will be gypped without save files to carry over. But then this is the Wii U version, so they might as well change all the Reapers to Bloopers for all I care. If I buy a Wii U it'll be for the exclusives, as usual.

Eh. The extended cut was much better IMO, and if you really want to see the originals you can always go to YouTube.

No original endings? But that's my entire reason for wanting the Wii U version (and the Wii U, really) in the first place.

@IliyaMoroumetz said:

The endings are still bad on an objective and creative level. You don't end a story as big as Mass Effect with a fricken Deus Ex Machina ten minutes before the end.

That's bad storytelling!

This is not Deus Ex Machina. They built the Crucible throughout the entire game and the delivery of the Crucible is what allows Shepard to make the choice. The Catalyst serves as little more than a guide and observer, similar to Vigil from ME1. They could have taken him out, but then you wouldn't know what the fuck was happening. Even still, you could have stumbled your way into stopping the Reapers. NOT DEM.

@SmokePants said:

@IliyaMoroumetz said:

The endings are still bad on an objective and creative level. You don't end a story as big as Mass Effect with a fricken Deus Ex Machina ten minutes before the end.

That's bad storytelling!

This is not Deus Ex Machina. They built the Crucible throughout the entire game and the delivery of the Crucible is what allows Shepard to make the choice. The Catalyst serves as little more than a guide and observer, similar to Vigil from ME1. They could have taken him out, but then you wouldn't know what the fuck was happening. Even still, you could have stumbled your way into stopping the Reapers. NOT DEM.

So it's a deus ex machina where you spend the entire game building the machina.

This is a stupid thing to take a stand on.

@Shinjitsu said:

@Landon: People that buy a Wii U?

People are going to buy a brand new console then immediately buy a game that not only is the 3rd in a trilogy, but has been out on three other platforms for months?

@Shinjitsu said:

@Landon: People that buy a Wii U?

People are going to buy a brand new console then immediately buy a game that not only is the 3rd in a trilogy, but has been out on three other platforms for months?

@Landon said:

@Shinjitsu said:

@Landon: People that buy a Wii U?

People are going to buy a brand new console then immediately buy a game that not only is the 3rd in a trilogy, but has been out on three other platforms for months?

Yeah, why would anyone buy the Wii U version?

Patricks biased slant on this story is pretty silly. I'm not going to try and sway anyone to ensure that new players can see the worse ending versions when they could just look them up on Youtube. Who cares?

This is silly. The new endings are just extended cuts of the old ones for the most part.

@aceofspudz said:

@SmokePants said:

@IliyaMoroumetz said:

The endings are still bad on an objective and creative level. You don't end a story as big as Mass Effect with a fricken Deus Ex Machina ten minutes before the end.

That's bad storytelling!

This is not Deus Ex Machina. They built the Crucible throughout the entire game and the delivery of the Crucible is what allows Shepard to make the choice. The Catalyst serves as little more than a guide and observer, similar to Vigil from ME1. They could have taken him out, but then you wouldn't know what the fuck was happening. Even still, you could have stumbled your way into stopping the Reapers. NOT DEM.

So it's a deus ex machina where you spend the entire game building the machina.

Throughout the entire game you have Hackett saying that he doesn't know what it's capable of but he thinks the energy released would be enough to destroy the Reapers, and Illusive saying that it's possible to use the Catalyst to control the Reapers. Then you get to the end of the game and it turns out they're both right. What's Deus Ex Machina about that? That it has an AI routine to guide its use? Did you expect to agree with the Reapers when they explained why they love Reapin' so much?

(I think the synthesis ending is a little dumb and weird, but that's why I didn't choose it)

@aceofspudz: Are you being serious? A Deus Ex Machina where you spend the whole game building it? Do you not realize that what you stated is a paradox? By definition, Deus Ex Machina is the use of an unannounced agent to solve a previously unsolvable problem. The Crucible was very clearly announced. And it was always intended to be the solution to a solvable problem.

There are almost no modern examples of DEM. Every writer knows what it is. If you think you see it, it's most likely due to your own mistakenness.

The worst part, was when the Titanic sunk.
 
SHIT SORRY, SPOILER ALERT!!!!

I don't see the point of showing Wii U owners the "original ending". The extended cut ending is basically the same as the original ending but with 5-minutes worth of added cut-scenes—nothing about the extended cut makes the ending any different, it's just a little longer. The "original ending" would just be the same as the extended cut but 5 minutes shorter. Why would BioWare allow that? It wouldn't make any sense.

I also don't think BioWare likes the idea of letting Wii U owners know that, "hey guys, we fucked up when we developed this game a year ago on the Xbox, so here's the shit ending that we originally made AND the still-kinda-shit longer ending we released months later." It's not something I see them doing for multiple reasons.

Why even bother releasing the game on the Wii-U? Total waste of time.

I don't understand why you'd hope for the original endings to be present, Patrick, considering the revisions are all for the better. Seems like a dumb and petty thing to take a stand on and it's not an important option to have at all. Shitty endings vs not as shitty endings. I wonder which people will pick.

@SmokePants said:

@aceofspudz: Are you being serious? A Deus Ex Machina where you spend the whole game building it? Do you not realize that what you stated is a paradox? By definition, Deus Ex Machina is the use of an unannounced agent to solve a previously unsolvable problem. The Crucible was very clearly announced. And it was always intended to be the solution to a solvable problem.

There are almost no modern examples of DEM. Every writer knows what it is. If you think you see it, it's most likely due to your own mistakenness.

It's like people throw words arround to justify their misunderstanding of a very important aspect of the plot... oh.

Regardless on the opinions of the endings a Deus Ex Machina it was not, thank you for making sense.

Bioware did the right thing in changing the endings, I completely hated the original ones and was part of the protest against it. It is hard not to considering how badly they botched it up in the first place.

The only problem I have now is that I will never buy a Bioware game with any confidence, and will hold back from buying especially if I hear Casey Hudson is on the game. I used to preorder them without a thought but now...no way. Very sad.

The original endings fit just fine on youtube. Leave it out, they aren't missing much.

What's the alternative, a ridiculous little pop up asking you which ending you'd like to receive? Because effectively that's what the original ending was, so it could potentially get very meta.

I'm not sure what the point of having the originals on there would be. The Extended Cut is just that, a longer, more detailed ending. It doesn't change anything, just has a lot more fleshed out stuff in it. Don't know why you would prefer the old ones.

Meh. The ending is so bad either way, I don't think it matters whether they give the option or not.

@Metal_Gear_Sunny said:

@MordeaniisChaos said:

This is a stupid thing to take a stand on.

I think its crazy to have a version of this game where you can never see jack, wrex, or thane. (theyre all dead in a default save) :/

Translation: "I really want to talk down to some Wii U owners. Perfect click bait story."

I will give you the title for free "Entitlement U"

I'm not sure why anyone would want to see the original endings instead. Then again, I'm not sure why anyone would buy the Wii U version of Mass Effect 3.

Without a release date for the Wii U (or did I miss that?), releasing Mass Effect 3 on it is worse than "sloppy seconds" where I have a hard time believing anyone would buy this for their Wii U beyond novelty or boredom.

They should fix the ending in the Wii U version by having Mario shoot in from Spaceship Mario and proceed to destroy all the Reapers. That's the best ending. I would buy it again for that.