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Microsoft Laying Off 18,000 Employees

Xbox Entertainment Studios, meant to drive original content to Xbox Live, is already dead.

"The first step to building the right organization for our ambitions is to realign our workforce."

No good news can follow a statement like that. Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella announced plans today for the company to lay off up to 18,000 employees.

Most of those layoffs are coming from the recently acquired Nokia, which Microsoft picked up for $7.2 billion just earlier this year. The Nokia division will account for roughly 12,500 of the planned layoffs.

The first 13,000 layoffs will be determined in the next six months. That seems like an unusually cruel amount of time to wonder if your job is going to be around the next day, but so it goes at big companies.

The Xbox division will not be unaffected, either. Deadline reports Xbox Entertainment Studios, tasked with developing original content for Xbox Live, has been shut down before it even really got off the ground. The Halo-related projects, Halo: Nightfall and a planned TV series, are expected to continue.

"Change is never easy, but I believe the changes announced today help us better align with our long-term goals," said head of Xbox Phil Spencer in a memo to employees. "We have an incredible opportunity ahead of us to define what the next generation of gaming looks like for the growing Xbox community. I have a great deal of confidence in this team and know that with clarity of focus on our mission and our customers we can accomplish great things together. We already have."

The first production from the studio, the soccer-themed Every Street United, launched last month.

You can read the entirety of Nadella's announcement below:

From: Satya Nadella

To: All Employees

Date: July 17, 2014 at 5:00 a.m. PT

Subject: Starting to Evolve Our Organization and Culture

Last week in my email to you I synthesized our strategic direction as a productivity and platform company. Having a clear focus is the start of the journey, not the end. The more difficult steps are creating the organization and culture to bring our ambitions to life. Today I’ll share more on how we’re moving forward. On July 22, during our public earnings call, I’ll share further specifics on where we are focusing our innovation investments.

The first step to building the right organization for our ambitions is to realign our workforce. With this in mind, we will begin to reduce the size of our overall workforce by up to 18,000 jobs in the next year. Of that total, our work toward synergies and strategic alignment on Nokia Devices and Services is expected to account for about 12,500 jobs, comprising both professional and factory workers. We are moving now to start reducing the first 13,000 positions, and the vast majority of employees whose jobs will be eliminated will be notified over the next six months. It’s important to note that while we are eliminating roles in some areas, we are adding roles in certain other strategic areas. My promise to you is that we will go through this process in the most thoughtful and transparent way possible. We will offer severance to all employees impacted by these changes, as well as job transition help in many locations, and everyone can expect to be treated with the respect they deserve for their contributions to this company.

Later today your Senior Leadership Team member will share more on what to expect in your organization. Our workforce reductions are mainly driven by two outcomes: work simplification as well as Nokia Devices and Services integration synergies and strategic alignment.

First, we will simplify the way we work to drive greater accountability, become more agile and move faster. As part of modernizing our engineering processes the expectations we have from each of our disciplines will change. In addition, we plan to have fewer layers of management, both top down and sideways, to accelerate the flow of information and decision making. This includes flattening organizations and increasing the span of control of people managers. In addition, our business processes and support models will be more lean and efficient with greater trust between teams. The overall result of these changes will be more productive, impactful teams across Microsoft. These changes will affect both the Microsoft workforce and our vendor staff. Each organization is starting at different points and moving at different paces.

Second, we are working to integrate the Nokia Devices and Services teams into Microsoft. We will realize the synergies to which we committed when we announced the acquisition last September. The first-party phone portfolio will align to Microsoft’s strategic direction. To win in the higher price tiers, we will focus on breakthrough innovation that expresses and enlivens Microsoft’s digital work and digital life experiences. In addition, we plan to shift select Nokia X product designs to become Lumia products running Windows. This builds on our success in the affordable smartphone space and aligns with our focus on Windows Universal Apps.

Making these decisions to change are difficult, but necessary. I want to invite you to my monthly Q&A event tomorrow. I hope you can join, and I hope you will ask any question that’s on your mind. Thank you for your support as we start to take steps forward in evolving our organization and culture.

Satya

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214 Comments
Posted by Brendan

@sefared: How else would you want them to put it in a sentence? Its no less emotional then saying "getting laid off" and its different from "you're getting fired" in a material way.

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Posted by T_wester

Wow that a hell of lot people to fired :(, that so many are from the Nokia part is not surprising though.

Posted by patrickklepek

I don't understand @patrickklepek 's apparent criticism of the 6 month limbo.

Anyone who is going to be among that 18,000 probably has a good idea if they are going to be among those laid off, so the six months to look elsewhere is hugely beneficial (not to mention things like "hey, maybe now isn't the time to buy a house or buy a new car").

No one who has ever been laid off before would say that having more time would have been a bad thing. A truly out-of-the-blue layoff is absolutely devastating, emotionally and financially. I've been there twice.

I've been laid off before, and when it happened, I was lucky enough to get a two week heads-up from my boss, since I wasn't going to receive any kind of severance. (The reasons for that are complicated.) You're right that having more time to plan for a coming disaster is better than having none, but my criticism of the six months comes from the understanding that people won't know if their jobs are being eliminated. It's possible you are within a department that could/maybe/might have layoffs, but your job might stick around! If these were people being told "your job is being eliminated, you have six months to transition," that might be different.

Posted by Naoiko

Oh my goodness...those poor people!

Posted by Reisz

Holy christ that letter. . . . It reads like it was procedurally generated from a database of meaningless business jargon. What a soulless, awful thing to have dictate your future.

Gross.

Posted by TurboMan

I didn't expect the Xbox channel stuff would ever catch on in the way that they were pitching it, but it sucks to see many people losing their jobs before it was ever given a chance.

Posted by Jetpil0t

Original programming sounded like a terrible idea from the start, something right from an 80s boardroom where no one really understands video games.

As one comment already pointed out, leveraging their total and complete dominance of gaming through Windows 8 on the PC into the Xbox One (which has a Windows OS layer) would be something Sony couldn't do, something people actually want and something that could actually compel someone to innovate something new.

However I expect the 5-10 year plan for Microsoft involves cloud based gaming and streaming services through to the console, it's how you are going to get amazing graphics that will compete or surpass a desktop and with HP looking to go to market with quantum compute solutions in 4 years in the server market, you can bet that's where Microsoft is probably expecting to pull well out in-front and offer something on there you can't get anywhere else.

It seems huge, but I bet this is just a minor and widely anticipated move after acquiring Nokia, using the opportunity to fold in the entertainment division closure and lower the PR buzz kind of smells though.

Posted by Tomba_be

And the management will give themselves a huge bonus for a job well done. Microsofts profits are already higher then normal people can imagine. Next year they might even be higher, but they are still so far beyond a reasonable number it will look exactly the same for you and me. So for some meaningless percentages they've destroyed thousands of peoples lives. Yes I know IT people tend to get jobs easier but there will be many factory/administrative/... employees who will be screwed.

I fail to understand how society keeps accepting this kind of behaviour from companies. I think the people making such decisions deserve to be lynched out on the streets and burned alive for their quest for ever increasing profits.

Posted by BasketSnake

Why don't GiantBomb just hire those 18.000 people and just have them do PLAYSTATION QuickLooks? That'll show them.

Posted by ArtisanBreads

@jimmyfenix said:

@patrickklepek

Do you think the Quantum break TV thing is dead as well? Game informer said MS were declining to comment on it.

I wouldn't be surprised if, at the very least, it was being significantly scaled back.

This would be the worst! So excited to see it.

If you could find out Scoops lets us know.

Posted by Cuuniyevo

@tomba_be: As I am unaware of what Microsoft's bottom line is, I can't speak to that, and I also can't speak to how much their executives are being paid. That being said, IF they are in a bad way, what would you recommend? That the whole company spiral down the drain, like THQ or the old Atari? It sucks but sometimes companies get too big for themselves and have to downsize. The letter does say the employees will receive full severance and help relocating and/or finding new employment. I wish them all the best.

Posted by SpicyRichter

@leebmx said:

Christ, the first sentence of that email. They should definitely fire who ever wrote that. Who the fuck 'synthesises' things to other people. What's wrong with 'explained.' or just 'told you.'

Business language is the most horrible, soul-sucking way of speaking, second only to the language of the military.

At least military language is straight up. I just got my MBA and I can tell you that there is a massive backlash in the business education community against bullshit-talk like this. If I wrote a paper with shit like like this in it I'd probably would have been kicked out of school.

Unfortunately the people running companies now are out of the loop and already have all the bad habits. It turns out that people like being spoken to like people and not be confused by bullshit backwards idiot-talk. I now know, if I ever meet anyone who actually talks like this, they're scared as fuck and don't know what the hell they're talking about.

Posted by shaftwaxer

All of that corporate bullshit PR speak makes my stomach churn. Hopefully the people laid off land on their feet soon.

Posted by VierasTalo

As a Finn I know a lot of people who work at Nokia so this isn't too cool.

I still totally understand why they did this, that company hasn't been doing too hot for a long time now.

Edited by Honkalot

Well, picking up Nokia was probably a bad idea since that company has been dying slowly for about 6 years. Though I bet Microsoft is not at all short of other issues as well.

Just hoping that the people who are laid off are able to land on their feet.

Posted by csl316

Yikes. Times like this I'm glad I work for a smaller company.

Posted by geirr

..and I almost got that Nokia fancy camera phone thing.

Posted by Vrikk

I just love big company PR bullshit emails. Just filled with buzzwords like "commitment" and "alignment" and "core values". It's all crap.

I feel sorry for these employees.

Edited by Crommi
@somejerk said:

But I'm not talking about the 12,500 jobs going from the Nokia parts, the company they planted one of their own into with the mission to drive the company into the ground so hard and so fast that they could buy it for a spittle. Get on it, EU investigatiors.

At least he received 25 million dollar bonus for the job well done, while employees got fired. Take a look at this graph and try to guess when Stephen Elop came to Nokia from Microsoft:

Posted by Tomba_be

@tomba_be: As I am unaware of what Microsoft's bottom line is, I can't speak to that, and I also can't speak to how much their executives are being paid. That being said, IF they are in a bad way, what would you recommend? That the whole company spiral down the drain, like THQ or the old Atari? It sucks but sometimes companies get too big for themselves and have to downsize. The letter does say the employees will receive full severance and help relocating and/or finding new employment. I wish them all the best.

Last year they had about 22 billion dollars of profit. They have 80 billion dollars cash. Their profits grow almost every year. They have more money then a lot of western countries. That's about as far as you can get from being in a bad way I'd say.

IF a company is in a bad way, reorganizing is sensible, because that means in the long run, more people will still have jobs. I think no one is opposed to that. This is not the case for MS. This is about making very few people richer by exploiting thousands. Which is unfortunately the way of the world these days.

Posted by Mr_Creeper

I don't understand @patrickklepek 's apparent criticism of the 6 month limbo.

Anyone who is going to be among that 18,000 probably has a good idea if they are going to be among those laid off, so the six months to look elsewhere is hugely beneficial (not to mention things like "hey, maybe now isn't the time to buy a house or buy a new car").

No one who has ever been laid off before would say that having more time would have been a bad thing. A truly out-of-the-blue layoff is absolutely devastating, emotionally and financially. I've been there twice.

Completely feeling you on this. Six months is a good chunk of time to get things in order. Even if you're not sure if you're one of the unlucky guys on the chopping block, you should be looking for other employment anyways.

Posted by Darson

"employees whose jobs will be eliminated"

That's a real cold way of putting it.

Edited by Luck702

I don't think I've ever seen a company lay that many people off before. I'm no (small) business man, but could somebody tell me if this is normal?

Posted by leebmx

@leebmx said:

Christ, the first sentence of that email. They should definitely fire who ever wrote that. Who the fuck 'synthesises' things to other people. What's wrong with 'explained.' or just 'told you.'

Business language is the most horrible, soul-sucking way of speaking, second only to the language of the military.

At least military language is straight up. I just got my MBA and I can tell you that there is a massive backlash in the business education community against bullshit-talk like this. If I wrote a paper with shit like like this in it I'd probably would have been kicked out of school.

Unfortunately the people running companies now are out of the loop and already have all the bad habits. It turns out that people like being spoken to like people and not be confused by bullshit backwards idiot-talk. I now know, if I ever meet anyone who actually talks like this, they're scared as fuck and don't know what the hell they're talking about.

As I mentioned to another poster, I really don't think military language is 'straight up.' Maybe communication between personel in the field is, for clarity and speed but most of their communication with the media or civilians is based around obfuscating and minimising the impact of their brutal work.

'Collateral damage' for innocent civilians we killed by mistake.

'Liquidated' instead of murder.

'Ethnic Cleansing' instead of genocide.

'Neutralise' instead of kill

'Pacify' or 'subdue,' instead of kill.

Friendly fire - one of the best! Who wouldn't like a bit of friendly fire, sounds so helpful - right?

Surgical strike, 'projectile' instead of bullet or bomb....the list goes on.

Posted by kristov_romanov

The synthesis ending really does fucking suck.

I really do feel for those people.

Posted by Grimluck343

@luck702 said:

I don't think I've ever seen a company lay that many people off before. I'm no (small) business man, but could somebody tell me if this is normal?

They bought a giant company with a bunch of redundant staff, so it wasn't unexpected. It's just on a much larger scale.

Posted by Luck702

@luck702 said:

I don't think I've ever seen a company lay that many people off before. I'm no (small) business man, but could somebody tell me if this is normal?

They bought a giant company with a bunch of redundant staff, so it wasn't unexpected. It's just on a much larger scale.

Couldn't they have just bought the Nokia name instead of wasting money on talent they were just going to axe?

Posted by Ben_H

The Mobile head executive guy's email from today is, at least I think, far worse than this one. He just casually mentions nearly at the end of the email that 12500 of the people he is responsible for are being fired. It's also much wordier and even more crammed with business speak.

The email being mentioned.

Edited by VibratingDonkey

This day has not been good.

18,000 is a lot of people. Far more than I can begin to comprehend...

It's kinda crazy.

It's the entire population of the town I live in.

Posted by Grimluck343

@luck702 said:
@grimluck343 said:

@luck702 said:

I don't think I've ever seen a company lay that many people off before. I'm no (small) business man, but could somebody tell me if this is normal?

They bought a giant company with a bunch of redundant staff, so it wasn't unexpected. It's just on a much larger scale.

Couldn't they have just bought the Nokia name instead of wasting money on talent they were just going to axe?

In fairness, at the time they had some pretty grand plans for the Nokia brand/resources. Then there was a change in leadership and all that fell by the wayside.

Posted by MannyMAR

"Xbox Entertainment Studios, meant to drive original content to Xbox Live, is already dead." - Patrick Kenshiro

Omae wa mo shindeiru.

Edited by DasaKamov

@ben_h said:

The Mobile head executive guy's email from today is, at least I think, far worse than this one. He just casually mentions nearly at the end of the email that 12500 of the people he is responsible for are being fired. It's also much wordier and even more crammed with business speak.

The email being mentioned.

Dear lord, if there was any doubt that executives in multi-billion dollar international companies were being replaced/brain washed by aliens, Stephen Elop's and Satya Nadella's emails should put all doubts to rest.

Especially the former; addressed to "Hello there" (which means "I have no idea who you are and I don't give a rat's ass") and ending in "Regards" (which translates to "I still don't give a fuck to who you are. This is just to let you know my robo-written email is at an end.")

Posted by SpicyRichter

@leebmx said:

As I mentioned to another poster, I really don't think military language is 'straight up.' Maybe ommunication between personel in the field is, for clarity and speed but most of their communication with the media or civilians is based around obfuscating and minimising the impact of their brutal work.

'Collateral damage' for innocent civilians we killed by mistake.

'Liquidated' instead of murder.

'Ethnic Cleansing' instead of genocide.

'Neutralise' instead of kill

'Pacify' or 'subdue,' instead of kill.

Friendly fire - one of the best! Who wouldn't like a bit of friendly fire, sounds so helpful - right?

Surgical strike, 'projectile' instead of bullet or bomb....the list goes on.

Fair enough, what I meant by straight up is that the language they use isn't specifically used to confuse people. Lie and soften the brutality? Sure, but there's no confusion as to what 'ethnic cleansing' or 'pacifying using projectiles in a surgical strike'. Most people can understand that, even if it's just another way of saying 'killing people with bullets'.

Most people wouldn't know how 'an opinion is synthesized' or how 'core competencies are leveraged' though.

The difference is one is used to seem less cold blooded, while the other is used to seem smart. I suppose both are used to obfuscate the truth though.

Posted by Luck702

@luck702 said:
@grimluck343 said:

@luck702 said:

I don't think I've ever seen a company lay that many people off before. I'm no (small) business man, but could somebody tell me if this is normal?

They bought a giant company with a bunch of redundant staff, so it wasn't unexpected. It's just on a much larger scale.

Couldn't they have just bought the Nokia name instead of wasting money on talent they were just going to axe?

In fairness, at the time they had some pretty grand plans for the Nokia brand/resources. Then there was a change in leadership and all that fell by the wayside.

Huh, makes since considering how much MS has changed course the last year. Let's hope the market has room for 18,000 new hires.

Posted by leebmx

The difference is one is used to seem less cold blooded, while the other is used to seem smart. I suppose both are used to obfuscate the truth though.

Yep, that pretty much sums it up.

You may have read it but if you want to read an amazing essay on the uses and abuses of language try "Politics and the English Language" by George Orwell. Written in 1946 but still totally relevant today.

It is a response to Fascism and Communism but is equally applicable to any institution trying to manipulate language to hide the truth, from politics, to the military, business and sports.

Posted by Polaris

I was recently laid off from a job I held for 14 years at another very large company. I suppose this takes MS off my list of potential new employers. Hope all those people make it out of this okay. I still haven't recovered.

Edited by JoelHulsey

Last week in my email to you I synthesized our strategic direction as a productivity and platform company.

Who the hell talks like this?

Posted by InternetFamous

@draxyle: This is actually a common practice. When you estimate for a number of layoffs, you calculate an additional percentage of that to come off as people jump ship because they're too worried. It's likely that 18000 was the number they came up with when really, they knew it was going to be more like 20000 after all was said and done.

Posted by pekoe212

Last week in my email to you I synthesized our strategic direction as a productivity and platform company.

Who the hell talks like this?

I KNOW. I hate business/marketing speak. The worst mutilations/misuses of the English language spring from there, and then spread through media to the masses until everyone is saying things like: "We will realize the synergies to which we committed..." I had a friend who, after working in a office environment for a year, started saying things like "I interfaced with this binder my boss gave me so I could leverage the information there." She'd really fallen down that rabbit hole.

Posted by Crono

Ahh the language of money. Gotta love it. So romantic! /s

Edited by nERVEcenter

As much as this sucks, this is completely necessary for the company.

My own father was at Microsoft during the golden era, the PC boom of the 90's after Apple and IBM were knocked out of the race. He often calls it the most enjoyable period of his life right up until the massive hierarchies and performance reviews. Going through a couple of performance reviews and shooting a couple of other people down to keep his job after doing so much for the company was one of the reasons he took off. Microsoft culture since around 1998 has been poisonous and anti-innovative, where the demands of top execs fight against the kill-or-be-killed culture of the lower tiers. Innovations like touchscreen mobile devices were shot down at the prototype stage for threatening the establishment, and the people who kept their jobs were the people who protected the status quo of Windows and Office. Creating good products like Surface must have taken huge protective measures on behalf of upper management to ensure a creative environment.

Best of luck to everyone laid off. It must hugely suck. But Microsoft as a company has been in need of realignment for a while.

Posted by CommunistFries

"We will realize the synergies to which we committed when we announced the acquisition last September."

When? What? o_o

Posted by SpicyRichter

@leebmx said:

@spicyrichter said:

The difference is one is used to seem less cold blooded, while the other is used to seem smart. I suppose both are used to obfuscate the truth though.

Yep, that pretty much sums it up.

You may have read it but if you want to read an amazing essay on the uses and abuses of language try "Politics and the English Language" by George Orwell. Written in 1946 but still totally relevant today.

It is a response to Fascism and Communism but is equally applicable to any institution trying to manipulate language to hide the truth, from politics, to the military, business and sports.

Excellent, I'll add it to my reading list

Posted by spraynardtatum

Well, it's clear now that Microsoft doesn't give a shit about supplying jobs for people. What a great fucking asset MS is going to be.

They can fuck off with their long term vision. That vision just took food off the table of 18,000 fucking real peoples tables. And 18,000 future opportunities for other people to put food on their tables.

Killing that many jobs should NEVER be taken lightly. That is Madison Square Garden. I don't care what kind of bullshit they wrap around it to justify it. They shouldn't have bought Nokia if this was a consequence.

Posted by thallium

Well, it's clear now that Microsoft doesn't give a shit about supplying jobs for people. What a great fucking asset MS is going to be.

They can fuck off with their long term vision. That vision just took food off the table of 18,000 fucking real peoples tables. And 18,000 future opportunities for other people to put food on their tables.

Killing that many jobs should NEVER be taken lightly. That is Madison Square Garden. I don't care what kind of bullshit they wrap around it to justify it. They shouldn't have bought Nokia if this was a consequence.

You're right but they never did care about supplying jobs for people. They're not in the business of supplying jobs. They're in the business of creating profit. I hate to break it to you but they have a responsibility to create shareholder wealth. Good or bad, that's how it is and that's how they are able to employ people. It'd be good if more people understood that.

Edited by Huey2k2

@thallium said:

@spraynardtatum said:

Well, it's clear now that Microsoft doesn't give a shit about supplying jobs for people. What a great fucking asset MS is going to be.

They can fuck off with their long term vision. That vision just took food off the table of 18,000 fucking real peoples tables. And 18,000 future opportunities for other people to put food on their tables.

Killing that many jobs should NEVER be taken lightly. That is Madison Square Garden. I don't care what kind of bullshit they wrap around it to justify it. They shouldn't have bought Nokia if this was a consequence.

You're right but they never did care about supplying jobs for people. They're not in the business of supplying jobs. They're in the business of creating profit. I hate to break it to you but they have a responsibility to create shareholder wealth. Good or bad, that's how it is and that's how they are able to employ people. It'd be good if more people understood that.

Exactly this.

Like it or not, it is the responsibility of a business to generate profit for the shareholders.

Businesses aren't running with your best interests in mind, they are running to make money.

Employees are just an asset/resource that they need to do it, and sometimes the best way for a company to make money is to cut excess fat.

That is life in Capitalism, I am not saying whether or not I think it is the best way to do things, but that is how it works.

Debating the validity of the system that enables companies to do this kind of thing is fine, but implying that they are some kind of horrible monster for doing it is ridiculous.

Edited by spraynardtatum

@thallium said:

@spraynardtatum said:

Well, it's clear now that Microsoft doesn't give a shit about supplying jobs for people. What a great fucking asset MS is going to be.

They can fuck off with their long term vision. That vision just took food off the table of 18,000 fucking real peoples tables. And 18,000 future opportunities for other people to put food on their tables.

Killing that many jobs should NEVER be taken lightly. That is Madison Square Garden. I don't care what kind of bullshit they wrap around it to justify it. They shouldn't have bought Nokia if this was a consequence.

You're right but they never did care about supplying jobs for people. They're not in the business of supplying jobs. They're in the business of creating profit. I hate to break it to you but they have a responsibility to create shareholder wealth. Good or bad, that's how it is and that's how they are able to employ people. It'd be good if more people understood that.

Yeah, like I said. I don't care what kind of bullshit they wrap around it to justify it. This is devastating and indicative of the way these tech companies have been moving. They're just consolidating wealth and killing opportunities. It would be good if more people wouldn't make excuses for corporations acting terribly because of the almighty dollar. Honestly, I think you should be ashamed for even mentioning that as a reasonable excuse.

This is a powerful and scary move and I don't need lectured about how businesses want to make money. That isn't a free card to throw people around like this.

Posted by spraynardtatum

@huey2k2 said:

@thallium said:

@spraynardtatum said:

Well, it's clear now that Microsoft doesn't give a shit about supplying jobs for people. What a great fucking asset MS is going to be.

They can fuck off with their long term vision. That vision just took food off the table of 18,000 fucking real peoples tables. And 18,000 future opportunities for other people to put food on their tables.

Killing that many jobs should NEVER be taken lightly. That is Madison Square Garden. I don't care what kind of bullshit they wrap around it to justify it. They shouldn't have bought Nokia if this was a consequence.

You're right but they never did care about supplying jobs for people. They're not in the business of supplying jobs. They're in the business of creating profit. I hate to break it to you but they have a responsibility to create shareholder wealth. Good or bad, that's how it is and that's how they are able to employ people. It'd be good if more people understood that.

Exactly this.

Like it or not, it is the responsibility of a business to generate profit for the shareholders.

Businesses aren't running with your best interests in mind, they are running to make money.

Employees are just an asset/resource that they need to do it, and sometimes the best way for a company to make money is to cut excess fat.

That is life in Capitalism, I am not saying whether or not I think it is the best way to do things, but that is how it works.

Debating the validity of the system that enables companies to do this kind of thing is fine, but implying that they are some kind of horrible monster for doing it is ridiculous.

Well, then I'm going to be ridiculous over here. I personally hope you are never a manager or boss if that's how you view employees and your employees will feel the same way. Absolutely 100% gross to me. I don't care how clinical you think you're being.

Edited by KaneRobot

While it's true I pretty much only have that letter to go on, Satya Nadella sure seems like a fucking corporate asshole.

Although if he brings back 1 vs 100 on XBL, all is forgiven.

Edited by RuthLoose

Why is everyone so surprised that Microsoft is dumping Nokia employees en-masse? The whole Windows Phone thing was always just a patent mining operation from the beginning.