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Namco Bandai’s Smash Bros., 3DS XL And Tons More Nintendo News

Because Nintendo’s press conference was so action packed, this had to wait.

Apparently Nintendo’s semi-regular Nintendo Direct events are where fans should wait for exciting news, as tonight’s brought plenty to get everybody talking.

We have the first details on the next Smash Bros., a collaboration between Project Sora (Kid Icarus:Uprising) and, uh, Namco Bandai. Of course, the game is being overseen by the always present Masahiro Sakurai. Due to the Namco Bandai collaboration, apparently the game isn’t years off.

Also, Nintendo confirmed the rumored re-design 3DS (something I’d shot down on the podcast, but looks like I’m wrong on that one), now called the 3DS XL. The machine sports a 90% larger screen, a 4GB memory card, improved battery life, and there won’t be an AC adaptor in the box because...cost savings? The machine will be available on August 19 for $200.

Otherwise? Let’s run down the list.

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Edited by algertman

The reason Nintendo didn't show this stuff at E3 was because FUCK E3 CAN DIE THAT'S WHY! Think about it. They have to share headline space on sites with the other companies for duration of the show which what they don't want. They also have to put on a stage show for the press. The same press who have been singing Nintendo's doom since before the original DS was ever released.

AC adapter will come with the US version.

Posted by kagato

@skrutop said:

I'm not surprised that so many commenters are upset by the 3DS XL's lack of an AC adapter; that's what stood out to me as well. I can understand that it's really important for them to hit the sub-$200 price point, but removing the power adapter is not the way to do that. I don't know if Japan is a different case or not, but how many parents in Europe are going to buy this for their kids without realizing that it doesn't contain a power cord? This is a completely baffling decision by Nintendo. They really come across as having zero idea what they're doing.

Also, I thought reps from Nintendo have said previously that they don't believe in DLC. The DLC stages for NSMB2 clearly seem like throwaway challenge levels, but it's still odd that they're not going to be included with the rest of the game.

Amazon did the same thing with the Kindle, got my girlfriend one for christmas and then had to buy a charger seperately because it only came with a USB. It must cut the cost as the device dropped to below £100 here in the UK.

Im not fussed about a bigger 3DS but my girlfriend will love it, she has a DSi XL and didnt want to get the 3DS because it was too small, though i guess it will be me buying it for her lol

Posted by coakroach

I thought the redesign was a WiiU controller...

Posted by Pikawai

I wish I had waited before buying my 3DS, this is the first and the last time I'll buy something day one. I hope Fire Emblem will come to EU too.

Posted by Marokai

@RoyCampbell said:

We still need games for this fucking thing and they go and redesign it. Incensed.

There are plenty of decent games out and in the pipeline for the 3DS right now. If people are still all pitchforks and torches over the 3DS then you're either not paying attention to them or you're too difficult to please.

Posted by algertman

@Marokai said:

@RoyCampbell said:

We still need games for this fucking thing and they go and redesign it. Incensed.

There are plenty of decent games out and in the pipeline for the 3DS right now. If people are still all pitchforks and torches over the 3DS then you're either not paying attention to them or you're too difficult to please.

If someone is bitching about 3DS lack of games then showing them Vita's release schedule would probably kill them.

Posted by zombie2011

Wow the 3DS XL looks like a baby's toy.

Posted by Stinky51012

Still no

Posted by edeo

Great. It's probably a great business decision for them to leave off the second analog stick. It seems that great business decisions are all that Nintendo is good for anymore. Heaven forbid they confuse grandma or a five year old with a second analog stick.

Posted by jewunit

@617_jbug said:

Nintendo USA says that the AC adapter is in the package for the US. That was only for Japan that no AC adapter was in the package.

Good to know! I had thought the lack of an AC adapter had carried over the the U.S. side of things. The decision to not package an adapter in with the system seemed rather silly.

Posted by RoyCampbell
@algertman said:

@Marokai said:

@RoyCampbell said:

We still need games for this fucking thing and they go and redesign it. Incensed.

There are plenty of decent games out and in the pipeline for the 3DS right now. If people are still all pitchforks and torches over the 3DS then you're either not paying attention to them or you're too difficult to please.

If someone is bitching about 3DS lack of games then showing them Vita's release schedule would probably kill them.

Thanks for the reminder; this is my second resuscitation.
Posted by RoyCampbell
@zombie2011 said:

Wow the 3DS XL looks like a baby's toy.

Imagine a boot-up easter egg where if you hold the 'z' button on a Circle Pad Pro, you'll hear a bunch of squeaky toys and laughing children.
Posted by Zereta

Everyone should stop dreaming about the 3DS. Nintendo does this: Their designs for their consoles, while seemingly weird sometimes, forces them to be innovative. It did with the DS. It sort of backfired, but still kinda worked out with the Wii. Its gonna be the same for the 3DS. The Circle Pad Pro was anomaly which I will never understand, but hey, if you wanna play Resident Evil: Revelations with that, it works, I guess.

3DS is actually a very compelling device in my eyes now, more so than the Vita and the Wii U, both of which I was actually considering picking up this Holiday.

In terms of the games that are already out:

Super Mario 3D Land

Ocarina of Time 3D

Starfox 64

Mario Kart 7

Kid Icarus: Uprising

And games coming out:

Luigi's Mansion

Paper Mario

Epic Mickey: Power of Illusion

New Super Mario Bros 2

And to an extent, Mirror of Fate.

With Super Smash Bros on its way,

The 3DS line up looks fantastic in my opinion. With the XL coming out, I might just grab it end of the year.

Posted by D_train_lives

So... they making a circle pad pro XL now haha...

Edited by ninkendo

Should have posted that 11 minute Dragon Quest X trailer from the japanese Nintendo Direct conference. Game looks so amazing. I suspect when it comes out in english it won't have the monthly fees like Japan does, but even if it does I'll gladly pay them for this game. Only time I'm ever paying for an online RPG

Posted by Zor

Damn, I wanted a second analog in the redesign, but if the improved battery life is great enough, i think i'll pick it up.

Edited by DeF

@Zor said:

Damn, I wanted a second analog in the redesign, but if the improved battery life is great enough, i think i'll pick it up.

it's now 3.5 to 6.5 hours for 3DS games (5-8 for DS games)

@Pikawai said:

I wish I had waited before buying my 3DS, this is the first and the last time I'll buy something day one. I hope Fire Emblem will come to EU too.

yes it will, you seem to have missed that we (EU) had our own Nintendo Direct with Satoru Shibata this morning confirming Animal Crossing and Fire Emblem for early 2013.

Posted by lilarchie232
@mrpandaman
Why no second stick on the 3ds redesign?
And why wasn't this news at E3?
Posted by tactis

I sold my 3DS last year, I dont think this will convince me to buy another one, I think I will wait until they redesign the base model, I want a second analog stick and better battery life.

Posted by Curufinwe

I'll buy a 3DS XL for games like Theatrhythm and Shin Megami Tensei IV.

Those two little bumps to protect the top screen when it's closed really should have been on the first edition of the 3DS.

Posted by fox01313

Still would have been awesome at E3 if they announced a Professor Layton for the WiiU, seems a perfect fit for that console or even just release a collection of the DS games for it.

Posted by The_Nubster

not including the second circle pad is a good move. Segmenting your player base is dangerous, and really confusing for developers. Keep the experiences based around the touch screen and 3D, not a second analog stick.

Posted by bennym6

Fuck yeah Smash Bros.

Posted by buft

I know its not the best idea but the only way im ever buying an other 3ds is if it comes with the second circle pad built in.

Posted by GS_Dan

That thing is hideous.

Posted by MrMazz

WHy wasn't this at E3?

Posted by MattSchwabby

WHY IS THERE NOT A SECOND THUMB STICK ON THAT THING?!

Posted by ptys

Not the redesign I wanted, makes the Vita look small!

Posted by Ohvee

@D_train_lives said:

So... they making a circle pad pro XL now haha...

Doubtful. It was always an optional accessory. There aren't any games on the horizon that would utilize it.

Just like the original DS revisions, this is just an alternative to the 3DS, not a replacement.

Posted by sickVisionz

I hope it's only the folk behind Tekken and Soul Calibur and not the crew who made those beautiful but terrible gameplay Naruto fighting games.

Posted by MormonWarrior

I really want a purple 3DS but I totally would like the XL...there really needs to be a purple XL. Or Maroon or Bronze.

Posted by HarlequinRiot

Wait, if there's no AC adapter in the box, how do you charge it? I must be missing something really obvious.

Posted by Arrested_Developer
@MattSchwabby said:

WHY IS THERE NOT A SECOND THUMB STICK ON THAT THING?!

This.
Posted by Cloneslayer

isnt the 3ds big enough without bigger screens. I love my 3DS but no way I'm getting the XL. Maybe if there was MORE GAMES to play! At least we got some goods ones coming.

Posted by Chicken008

Patrick, it's only the Japan version of the 3DS XL that doesn't come with the AC Adapter.

Posted by CitizenJP

OMG Wario Land. Probably one of my favorite games growing up. Damn, that was the best. <3

Posted by Shuborno

1. It would be amusing to see a Quick Look of someone attempting to play Kid Icarus with the 3DS XL propped up on that stand.

2. So anyone who wants to play the games that have the optional second analog stick are out of luck? Wouldn't devs just completely stop developing for a second analog if it's only available as an add-on for a first-gen 3DS model?

Posted by vinsanityv22

"Because Nintendo’s press conference was so action packed, this had to wait."

lol. That was positively Alex-esque in it's snarkiness and hilarity, Patrick :)

Edited by vinsanityv22

I'm excited that Namco-Bandai has assembled a dream team to do the development for Smash Next. I mean, first off, new blood - especially when it's talented - is always a good thing. Look how refreshed Halo is now that Bungie has moved on and 343 are taking it on. While I'm sure Nintendo will make sure this new game plays like Smash Bros, I'm still excited that new developers are tackling it. And Namco has experience making games for HD consoles, with advanced lighting, complex shaders and detailed, high poly character sculpts. Maybe now it will look better than a higher-res Wii game, hopefully - unlike all other Wii U games Nintendo has been working on. And here's hoping they bring SOMETHING fresh to the table. The core gameplay from Smash 64, Melee and Brawl has already been iterated to perfection - it just depends on who you ask which one is perfect.

I'm also excited to see a larger developer handle the actual development. Sora is too small and there's no way they could get these games done in a timely fashion by themselves. But Namco's super team here? They'll be getting this done much faster than if HAL was working on it; of this I am certain.

Excited for Smash now.

Posted by Begilerath

Since it seems that the best use of 3D is in games that are played on a 2D plane (side-scrollers) with 3D added for depth the lack of a second stick is kind of meaningless.

Posted by pmurph

@Arrested_Developer:

+1

Posted by wolf_blitzer85

Games can be played without a second analog stick you guys.

Posted by Dohers

The pixel density on that thing will be horrid. The design is pretty terrible as well. If I ever get a 3DS it will not be the XL

Posted by Krenor

Mario now has DLC, funny

Posted by Gista

would love to try that kingdom hearts demo....if i could ever get on the friggin eshop...

Posted by Nekroskop

They actually didn't add a second analogue-nub to the redesign. Good job, Nintendo.

Posted by Elazul

@Dohers said:

The pixel density on that thing will be horrid.

It's 96 ppi, which is somewhere between a good PC monitor and an iPad 2. How is that "horrid"?

Posted by jamessmarion

I don't think adding the second analog stick would have been a good idea. Either it A: would have been a built-in control that never would have gotten used, or B: it would have become a staple in most games that came out, meaning that previous 3DS owners would be fuuuuucked.

Posted by heavymetalwaffle

You think they'll lower the price on the original 3ds model? If they do I can probably justify buying one solely for Paper Mario.

Posted by Flyinnmunkee

@Gista: Tell me how the demo is when you get it.