NBA Jam HD Hitting Stores In November, Will Cost 50 Bones

What a complete marketing fuckup by EA.
 
For one, I'm not paying 50 bucks on release day for a game that will be "Patched with more content" later down the road to bring it up to the same retail value as the other(Wii) version.  We all know devs always stick to that time frame/plan and deliver on time right?  I mean, that new Laura croft game will totally have online multiplayer right around the time I stop giving a shit.  So, trying to sell me a watered down, ex-Pack in with NBA elite, less featured than the wii version game with no online multiplayer at only $10 under typical full retail price of a 360 game isn't gonna happen.  Selling me an IOU for content doesnt work. sorry.
 
Second, who the fuck decided any of this was a good idea.  Packing in a watered down version of Jam to boost sales of a shit NBA sim that no one gives a rat's ass about.  Obviously about the time Elite was being seen in all its glory for the absolute fuckup it was, they saw dollar signs for selling an actual retail Jam disk which more people cared about anyway.  
 
At this point, sell me a 1600 point Jam without all your features, the version that was being packed in with elite.  Ill buy that, and then you can try and sell me the IOU'd content down the road for 30 more bucks...  As long as the 1600 point version has online multiplayer im in.  I was super excited for NBA Jam, but now I will pass til its in the bargain bin, at this rate it wont take long anyway.  Sadly, if they had started out with a full 3 console launch of the title, I might have paid 50 for it. 

Must be a lot of not too well off bums playing NBA games these days. 50 bucks for a game that you'll most likely be playing just as much as you would any other sports title, only this one will be hellishly fun? Yeah.. Raw deal.. I guess...

Sweet, I had fun playing this with at my friends already - looks like I can wait for this version.

People would have no problem with the game being $50 had they announced it in a "ordinary" way just like every other games.  The game would still received awesome reviews and will sell millions.  It could be the kind of retro revival that the New Super Mario Bros or the upcoming Donkey Kong Country Returns have enjoyed.
 
But after all these horrible marketing fiasco there is no way EA can come up with a plan that does not piss off anybody.  People's perception of what the game is worth has already been changed.

NBA Jam Tournament Edition was a 70 dollar game.

Damn! I only have one bone.

this is definitely going under the gamefly category

" So people bitched that they put NBA Jam with Elite, and now they're bitching that it's a stand alone product.  That costs the same amount as the wii version.  Except it has online play so it's a better deal.  That is what's happening. "

" Sorry, not paying $50 for a old arcade game, expectations have risen over time.  I'm not going to fork over $50 for a HD version of spyhunter either. "

" @Milkman said:

" I don't understand why everyone is so up in arms about this.. The Wii version is $50 and no one had a problem with that. Plus, this version is in HD and has online. The "free" version that came with Elite was just going to have Exhibition mode. That's like an eighth of the game.  "

   1. No one had a problem with the Wii version coming out at $50 because no one buys Wii games. Wii owners are used to being asked to pay full price for gimped versions of popular titles, so being asked to pay full retail for what would otherwise be an XBLA or PSN title seems par for the course.

I think the problem is that almost everyone thought  it was going to be an Arcade title, priced at 1200/1600. Not a big deal, in a few months the price will be just a few bucks over that.

Sorry, not paying $50 for a old arcade game, expectations have risen over time.  I'm not going to fork over $50 for a HD version of spyhunter either.

This isn't a XBLA/PSN game?  Since I paid $50 for Jam once already, around 15 years ago for SNES, I think I'll wait for the inevitable $20 price point for this version.  

Weird no one wants to pay the same price as the wii version, yet it has more and is hd.

" @Milkman said:

" I don't understand why everyone is so up in arms about this.. The Wii version is $50 and no one had a problem with that. Plus, this version is in HD and has online. The "free" version that came with Elite was just going to have Exhibition mode. That's like an eighth of the game.  "

   1. No one had a problem with the Wii version coming out at $50 because no one buys Wii games. Wii owners are used to being asked to pay full price for gimped versions of popular titles, so being asked to pay full retail for what would otherwise be an XBLA or PSN title seems par for the course.2. The "free" version is all anyone cared about. No one could give a rat's ass about them including a myriad of single player modes, because honestly, it's SINGLE PLAYER. No one goes to a big head 2-on-2 basketball game for the campaign mode. In fact, they would have probably gladly paid 15 for the Vs mode only as a downloadable title.  This is going to sell terribly, however I'm pretty sure once they pop it onto the Games On Demand service for 20 bones, it'll outperform retail. Shame we'll all have to wait that long.    "

EA need to make an arcade spin off of Fifa for current consoles, and no I don't count Fifa Street 3 as that was just tragic.

it's cool
but it's not 50 dollar cool

Fuck nba elite and NBA 2k11  Nba jam is way better than both of those anyway.

So people bitched that they put NBA Jam with Elite, and now they're bitching that it's a stand alone product.  That costs the same amount as the wii version.  Except it has online play so it's a better deal. 
 
That is what's happening.

I was looking forward to this; I loved the original.   But $50?  I'll pass.

I would have rather got this as a downloadable title. It's like paying $50.00 for a super deep HD X-Men arcade game in retail. 
 
This is just a glorified arcade game and I don't think I can personally pay retail prices for that.
And why do the consumers have to suffer for EA's incompetency from NBA Elite 11?
Now, we the consumers have to make up for their loss of sales like it's our fault. 

*sheep noise*

" @Wrighteous86 said:

" @Sil3n7:  People were fine when they had to pay $60 dollars for the game (along with Elite - which many admitted they didn't want) and it had much less in the way of features.  This exact same game came out on the Wii, minus HD graphics and an online mode for the same exact price and no one bitched.  You're getting more than Wii gamers for the same amount of money, and the game reviewed well on the Wii.  That means most reviewers thought it was worth it for gamers to pick it up.  Adding two major features and releasing it on another console for the same price a month later means reviewers probably think it's an even better deal than what the Wii users got.  People just got in the mindset that it would be released cheaper because it was originally a stripped-down pack in.  They've added more to it, to make it on par with the Wii version, so it only makes sense that it would have price parity with that version.  If they added those two features and made it $30 cheaper like some gamers say they wanted/expected/deserved, that would be an enormous "Fuck you" to every gamer that bought it on the Wii. "

No it wouldn't 1. It was going to be free with elite  2. Games on 360 and PS3 command higher standards and lower prices to be worth a damn. Their catalog is leaps and bounds greater than the Wii's. You only need to compete with whats on the platform. So the fact you say "oh the wii version was 50" doesnt mean anything because what does it have to compete with??  Answer: Nothing. "

" But it's the same as the Wii version. Why is there so much bitching? I know that this is the internet but this is a nicer looker Wii version plus online for the same price. "

Funny how there wasn't this much bitching when the Wii version was announced for 50 dollars. 
 
Then if the game didn't sell because it was too expensive people would be like "See, Wii games don't sell." 
 
But now that it's coming out for the other consoles with more features and hd graphics all for the same price people are like, "HELL NO!!"

But it's the same as the Wii version. Why is there so much bitching? I know that this is the internet but this is a nicer looker Wii version plus online for the same price.

" @Sil3n7:  People were fine when they had to pay $60 dollars for the game (along with Elite - which many admitted they didn't want) and it had much less in the way of features.  This exact same game came out on the Wii, minus HD graphics and an online mode for the same exact price and no one bitched.  You're getting more than Wii gamers for the same amount of money, and the game reviewed well on the Wii.  That means most reviewers thought it was worth it for gamers to pick it up.  Adding two major features and releasing it on another console for the same price a month later means reviewers probably think it's an even better deal than what the Wii users got.  People just got in the mindset that it would be released cheaper because it was originally a stripped-down pack in.  They've added more to it, to make it on par with the Wii version, so it only makes sense that it would have price parity with that version.  If they added those two features and made it $30 cheaper like some gamers say they wanted/expected/deserved, that would be an enormous "Fuck you" to every gamer that bought it on the Wii. "

" I don't understand why everyone is so up in arms about this.. The Wii version is $50 and no one had a problem with that. Plus, this version is in HD and has online. The "free" version that came with Elite was just going to have Exhibition mode. That's like an eighth of the game.  "

Yup. Its because Elite was pushed back

" @Sil3n7: That's fine that other people don't want to pay $50. If that's what they want,  they can probably get a copy new for less than $30 by March. I just think it's stupid that people are getting all uppity about this whole "value for the price" thing. It's like when Limbo came out & people bitched that it wasn't worth $15 because it was only 3 hours long and compared it to other XBLA games at the same (or lower) price. Don't compare it to anything else, you decide how much you are willing to spend on the game and go with that. NBA Jam isn't a gimped, half-assed game. EA believes it's worth $50. I feel that I'll most definitely get enjoyment out of the $50 I'll spend on that game.    
 
Also, this thread is probably full of the same people who said they weren't going to buy Left 4 Dead 2 but did anyway. The same people who said that the Modern Warfare 2 maps for $15 were a rip off but bought them anyway. You all want to make a statement about a game's worth? Quit bitching about it and decide with your wallet by not supporting this game. "

 Why are some of you guys seem upset that people are complaining about things being to expensive?
That's what we do!

I like NBA Jam. This doesn't really feel like a fifty dollar game to me, though. I guess I view it in the perspective that I'd turn on my Sega Genesis to play a game of NBA Jam T.E., and that was pretty much it for the week. I like the series. It's goofy fun. I'm just not into it hardcore, and I think it might be hard for me to reason with myself that I would get the most out of it with fifty dollars, y'know? I don't know. I'll need to sit on this for a week or two before I decide whether I'll get it right now.

It'll be interesting to see how this goes down.
 
I think EA may be making a mistake here. Seems to me that they saw a lot of buzz surrounding NBA JAM, a lot of comments about how "I'm gonna buy Elite just to get JAM".
 
The question now is, how many of these people would've actually gone through with this when it was time for the money to change hands, and how many were exaggerating what they really thought it was worth just to express that they like NBA JAM?

Mmm, $40 is the sweet-spot on this game for me.  There just doesn't seem to be enough playtime value in it to warrant a $50 price tag.  On the other hand $40 puts it at the bargain price level in my mind, so I am willing to overlook a lot for that amount.   I'm going to hope that when the game drops next month, some online retailers have it on sale.  And, yes, $10 is a big enough price difference to keep me from buying a game.  It's the same amount (usually) that prevents me from wasting money on collector's editions, too.

If this was $15 on XBLA I'd buy it in a second. Hell, I'd buy it at $20. But $50? Give me a break.

I guess I'll go find my old NBA Jam cartridge then.

I really hate to say trite and cliche things, but in a case like this, it seems appropritate. 
 
*ahem* 
 
"lolumad, bro?" 
 
There I said it.

Rargh! I don't want to spend $50 on this game, EA must be evil!
 
Goddamn, guys. Grow up.

" I'm late to this thread and haven't read every comment but, to me, as a non-Wii owner and NBA Jam fan; I was totally psyched to hear that it was free with Elite.  Flash forward to Elite being utter shit.  "NBA Jam is no longer free with purchase of our $60 Elite game; we shall, instead, charge $50 for said "free game" because our $60 game is a piece of shit and we can't fix as-mentioned piece of shit that quickly but, we love your money."     I understand the stripped  features argument but would those stripped features equal to $50 worth of XBLM purchases? "

I'm late to this thread and haven't read every comment but, to me, as a non-Wii owner and NBA Jam fan; I was totally psyched to hear that it was free with Elite. 
 
Flash forward to Elite being utter shit.  "NBA Jam is no longer free with purchase of our $60 Elite game; we shall, instead, charge $50 for said "free game" because our 
$60 game is a piece of shit and we can't fix as-mentioned piece of shit that quickly but, we love your money."    
 
I understand the stripped  features argument but would those 
stripped features equal to $50 worth of XBLM purchases?

" @Wrighteous86 said:

" The things that annoy me most about modern gamers is the feeling of self-entitlement. "

"

Grow up, cheapskates. 
 
Yes, it was going to be free but only if you bought NBA Elite and it was going to be stripped of features. 

NBA Jam is worth full price any day of the week. It was like this on the SNES, the Megadrive, the PSX, the 64 (Hangtime) and even the remake on PS2.

Where was this price bitching when the Wii version was announced?
 
I'm really asking.  These comments have me dumbfounded.

I was interested in NBA Jam HD after the quick look, but not even to pay full price.

" The things that annoy me most about modern gamers is the feeling of self-entitlement. "