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On With The Bodycount

Codemasters announces new shooter by at least some of the guys behind Criterion's Black.


This is but one of the two released screenshots for Bodycount. 
Black. I feel like my own opinion of Criterion's first-person shooter have been well-established... well, provided you listen to the podcast, anyway. It's weird to me that Codemasters is really pushing its new first-person shooter, Bodycount, as being from the "co-creator and designer of Black," Stuart Black. Black (the game) didn't exactly go on to leave an especially lasting impact on shooters. Heck, I'd expect that a decent number of people don't even remember it at all. But I digress.

Today, Codemasters released two screenshots of the game, which... uh... look a lot like Black to me. Sadly, there's no mention of this being "gunporn 2.0" and I haven't seen anything close to "bullets are our babies" in the released material. That said, the provided quotes say the exact right things that I want to see when someone says they're making a first-person shooter. Here's one from the game's executive producer, Tom Gillo:

“Our core focus for Bodycount is to deliver best-in-class gun play that places the gamer at the heart of the experience,” said Executive Producer Tom Gillo. “From the jaw-dropping devastation caused by firing into enemies or shredding the world around you in a hail of bullets, Bodycount will crystalize that moment of pulling the trigger into an exhilarating sensory overload of action.”

Firing guns into enemy targets should feel positively devastating. Firing a gun should feel like an intensely destructive act. That's one of the things that Black came closest to delivering on, but the constant inclusion of exploding barrels made it all feel like a photo hunt game. "Find the exploding barrel, shoot it, and move forward!"

Oh, hey! Here's the other one! 
Of course, that all sounds a bit more harsh than it should. Black was actually a really neat game, in spots. It just felt like it was being held back somehow, like the design of the levels and environments didn't quite mesh with the firearms well enough.

If there's anything that signifies that this game is coming from dudes who worked on Black, it's this Stuart Black quote:

"If Race Driver: GRID was all about the purity of racing, then everything in Bodycount is absolutely centered on the bullet and its impact on the world."

Yep. That sounds about right. The game is currently set for release in Q1 2011 for Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3. Jeff Gerstmann on Google+
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Posted by Jeff

This is but one of the two released screenshots for Bodycount. 
Black. I feel like my own opinion of Criterion's first-person shooter have been well-established... well, provided you listen to the podcast, anyway. It's weird to me that Codemasters is really pushing its new first-person shooter, Bodycount, as being from the "co-creator and designer of Black," Stuart Black. Black (the game) didn't exactly go on to leave an especially lasting impact on shooters. Heck, I'd expect that a decent number of people don't even remember it at all. But I digress.

Today, Codemasters released two screenshots of the game, which... uh... look a lot like Black to me. Sadly, there's no mention of this being "gunporn 2.0" and I haven't seen anything close to "bullets are our babies" in the released material. That said, the provided quotes say the exact right things that I want to see when someone says they're making a first-person shooter. Here's one from the game's executive producer, Tom Gillo:

“Our core focus for Bodycount is to deliver best-in-class gun play that places the gamer at the heart of the experience,” said Executive Producer Tom Gillo. “From the jaw-dropping devastation caused by firing into enemies or shredding the world around you in a hail of bullets, Bodycount will crystalize that moment of pulling the trigger into an exhilarating sensory overload of action.”

Firing guns into enemy targets should feel positively devastating. Firing a gun should feel like an intensely destructive act. That's one of the things that Black came closest to delivering on, but the constant inclusion of exploding barrels made it all feel like a photo hunt game. "Find the exploding barrel, shoot it, and move forward!"

Oh, hey! Here's the other one! 
Of course, that all sounds a bit more harsh than it should. Black was actually a really neat game, in spots. It just felt like it was being held back somehow, like the design of the levels and environments didn't quite mesh with the firearms well enough.

If there's anything that signifies that this game is coming from dudes who worked on Black, it's this Stuart Black quote:

"If Race Driver: GRID was all about the purity of racing, then everything in Bodycount is absolutely centered on the bullet and its impact on the world."

Yep. That sounds about right. The game is currently set for release in Q1 2011 for Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3.
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Posted by scarace360

cool

Posted by Belonpopo

Looking forward to some new first person IPs

Posted by bjorno

ICE T REFERENCE NICEEE

Posted by AURON570

BOOOOM!

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Posted by buzz_killington

The exec-producers's level of hyperbole is awesome!

Posted by Romination

sooo...
this is some kind of game where you,....
shoot stuff?
hmmm...
intriguing!
 
 
(not)

Posted by Peacemaker

Bad Company 2 is pretty much Black 2.

Posted by Ineedaname

I kinda liked Black, ohhh how much easier was life back before I started using online forums XD.

Posted by Xolare

Sold.

Edited by ArchV1le

As someone who liked Black at the time, I am excited. If nothing else Black did an amazing job of making the guns feel awesome

Posted by ZmillA

those screens look like a clean wii game

Posted by Milkman

Looks like a first person shooter video game to me.

Posted by JJWeatherman

huh.  
 
I bet it turns out no good.

Posted by jakob187

That's great and all, but will it compare to Destruction 2.0 in Bad Company 2 or Red Faction Guerrilla's GeoMod 2.0?  I mean, seriously...shit blows up real pretty in those games.
 
My biggest problem with Black was that even when you were devastating stuff, it all still felt very scripted.  With something like Bad Company 2 or Red Faction Guerrilla, the destruction just feels dynamic and awesome!

Edited by Superfriend

Hey Jeff, I don´t really get your hate for Killer In.. uh I mean Black. It was a kinda cool shooter. Simplistic and  arcadey, like Timesplitters. I really liked playing through this campaign, though only once and on normal. 
But hey, this game was FAR from being bad. You want a bad FPS? Try Painkiller Overdose or something. Just stop hatin´ Black

Edited by Vager

That quote makes the game seem awesome.
Posted by Th3_James
@Belonpopo said:
" Looking forward to some new first person IPs "
i wan't some 4th person shooters, You play a guy on a couch playing a shooter on a console
Posted by Dustpan

Looks like Black.

Posted by Nick

Anyone else think On With The Bodycount, is a better name than Bodycount?
Posted by CharlesAlanRatliff

Curious as to what it looks like in motion!

Posted by berva

yep, looks like Black to me also.  Which is a good thing

Posted by captain_clayman

hey wow this looks like a first person shooter!

Posted by lhaymehr

Green is the new brown!

Posted by MannAlive

i played a little bit of Black recently.  it was barely mediocre.  absolutely nothing special about it.  i would never pick up a game that made me recall my hours with Black b/c there's no reason to ever think about them again.

Posted by artofwar420

Can't wait to play Black 2.
Posted by Th3_James
@Nick said:
" Anyone else think On With The Bodycount, is a better name than Bodycount? "
I would prefer " Massive Corpse Accumulation: It's starting to smell....."
Edited by WiqidBritt

I feel like the Battlefield games (BC2 especially) handles the gun play and bullet effects closest to how I'd want a game to deal with them, i.e. the bullets have an actual trajectory, rather than moving in a laser straight line, you can actually see sniper rounds fall to the ground at long ranges
 
what I'd really like someone to make is a full bullet physics simulation, where each bullet is a fully rendered 3D object and muzzle velocity and bullet trajectory are controlled by a physics engine and how much gunpowder is in the cartridge for that particular gun and the actual mechanics of how that gun works... 
 of course, the amount that such an effort would add to a game would not be worth the amount of computing resources needed to actually run it... but still, I think it'd be fun to try

Posted by Spoonman671

It does look like Black... which isn't good seeing as how that was a PS2-era game.

Posted by DukeEdwardI

LOVED black back in the day.  Played through it 3 times (but that was mostly because I was a poor and had nothing else to play).  Will be keeping an eye on this!

Posted by theMuse

'Extremely Generic Shooter'

Posted by Lambert

Codemasters can't make shooters for shit. Operation Flashpoint: Dragon Rising, and the other game which involved Nazis invading the US. Not interested in this at all. Stick to making racers.

Posted by Skald
@JustTheDoctor said:
" Looks like Black. "
Indeed.
Posted by crusnchill

Yet more FPS's... Oh the excitement... Yawn. (Sarcastic tones couldn't compete with how I just imagined myself saying that.)

Posted by SeriouslyNow
@Peacemaker said:
" Bad Company 2 is pretty much Black 2. "
In what way?  There's no tawdry slow mo effects for no good reason, no glossy black guns for no reason and no ridiculous unjustified hyperbole that tries to make the game seem like its the most SP FPS ever released.  Black wasn't awful, but it also wasn't very good at all.  BC2 isn't the best SP FPS but it is the best MP Battlefield experience to date and a lot of that has to do with the class streamlining, useful 3D spotting mechanic, VOIP between squadmates and Destruction 2.0 kills.
Posted by Deusoma

Wow, I didn't think anybody other than me even remembered Operation Body Count, much less wanted to make a remake. You learn something new every day.

Posted by xAbleAssassinx
@Peacemaker said:
" Bad Company 2 is pretty much Black 2. "
Kind of... except not in the slightest.
Posted by natetodamax

Seems kinda generic so far. I hope they do something interesting with it.

Posted by Kovie

YES!  Even if the screenshots aren't great - I'm totally hyped for this.

Posted by ghostNPC

Codemasters. That's all I had to read.

Posted by Rio

So are you counting bodies? I dont get it.

Posted by Bionicicide

Codemasters seems to only be afloat because of their racers.
 
NSFW
 

Posted by Smersh

Black was fucking awesome!
Bring on another round!!

Posted by PeregrimFalcon

Aww come on. No reference to Ice T's band Body Count?

Posted by Artemis_D
@PeregrimFalcon said:
" Aww come on. No reference to Ice T's band Body Count? "
I was a bit disappointed they missed that one, too.

Posted by eezo

could be interesting :)
Posted by Tordah

Sweet, added to my wishlist!

Posted by Gizmo

After the phailiure that was OFP2, I don't think anyone should hype this game in the slightest.

Posted by AussieBomb
@Superfriend said:
" Hey Jeff, I don´t really get your hate for Killer In.. uh I mean Black. It was a kinda cool shooter. Simplistic and  arcadey, like Timesplitters. I really liked playing through this campaign, though only once and on normal.  But hey, this game was FAR from being bad. You want a bad FPS? Try Painkiller Overdose or something. Just stop hatin´ Black "
O dude a new Timesplitters would be so damn cool
Posted by FlashFlashCarCrash

the only people who remember black are those who had only a PS2 last gen, apparently. For some reason, whenever I hear people speak fondly of that game they ALWAYS only had a PS2. 

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