Pokemon Wii Probably Won't Be A "Core" Game

This sounds about right. I like Pokemon, and I like console RPGs, but the thing I love about Pokemon is that it's an entire game that I can bring anywhere. It was designed for portables, and it works beautifully, unlike shitty, main-console ports of games (CoD Portable) that are made just to sell units. 
 
I do like the idea of having a fully-featured Pokemon game on a home console, in full 3D, that takes full advantage of the system's capabilities (except for motion control, because I'm not fucking waggling to play pokemon), but I also don't think it should be a core release. It should definitely be an ancillary game, like Pokemon Stadium, which did it perfectly.  
 
Pokemon Stadium gave you a bunch of things: an adventure mode, a bunch of minigames, access to battle with "rental" pokemon, so you could just go crazy with teams, and a much bigger area of storage that could be used to hold onto extras if your boxes got full, and to move pokemon between the different games. Also, you could just straight-up start up and run your cartridge on the big screen, if you so desired. 
 
So here's hoping we're talking about Pokemon Stadium 3. 
 
Also, the MMO is another good idea, but once again it can't be a "core" release, like the adventure game. If anything, it might just be basically a giant GUI matchmaking server. Then again, with the advent of tag battles and 3v3s, the possibilities for organizing group events open up. I don't doubt that the game could be made pokemon, but I wouldn't expect it to be a straight-up open-world adventure, necessarily. 
 
Also, I think of Pokemon more like a sort of MW-type thing. The gameplay changes are more tweaks for fans of the series, than a redesign meant to make it all completely fresh and innovative. And really, I'm satisfied with the gameplay as it is, at least within the core games. 
 
But I'm not saying that there's nothing that can be done. I'm saying that a redesign or re-imagining may have its place, but that place is outside of the core games, and the core gameplay. Millions of people still find Pokemon fun enough to make every game a top-seller, so I'm figuring that the people who are tired of it aren't the audience Nintendo is catering to.

Thats disappointing. I wwas eagerly looking forward to what came after Black and White. T.T

Here's how I really see it, I'm either sitting on my chair in my bedroom playing Pokemon on a small LCD screen or I'm playing it on my 55 inch LED. Nintendo need to move forward now, it's been 15 years since its inception on Gameboy. 

Can't say I'm at all surprised, just... still very disappointed.

I've held the golden image in my head of the 3D pokemon game that uses whatever variation of the Tale's series LMBS is working best right now. Fuck that would be amazing. Agility dictates speed, size matters very much, works for 1v1,2v2,3v3, or even...... 4v4...  God even the 4 attack limitation pokemon has WORKS PERFECTLY. 
 
It makes me sad that will never come to pass.

" @Ace829 said:

" @JJWeatherman said:

" Online capabilities these days make his reason somewhat invalid. A Pokemon console MMO that played at least somewhat like the "core" games, could be amazing. "

Why Nintendo hasn't capitalized on this idea is something I will never understand. "

The games already feature quite extensive online features, especially Black and White.  You can trade and battle with random people online or even bring them over into your game to play with. I don't see why the games need any more online aspects than that.  A full fledged MMO just wouldn't work, for several reasons.  I've gone into depth on this matter in the past and don't feel like doing so again, but just to name a few..  -Young audience + MMO's rarely ends well. -Battles are turn based and very slow, not ideal for large scale online play -Subscription fee would put off 90% of their target audience. -Would player's replace random trainers?  If so, this would make it very difficult to progress in the game, requiring you to beat other skilled players to progress.  This not only allows people to pray on the younger or less experienced players but would be a bad mechanic in general.   If NPC trainers still exist, how does it differ from the standard games, if we already have areas in the handheld games to meet up, trade and battle? "

I kinda agree with him. As it is, the game is sort of shallow and is perfect for drop-in drop-out gameplay. Perhaps if the story was stronger or the pacing was more directed, it would be a good fit for consoles.

" @JJWeatherman said:

" Online capabilities these days make his reason somewhat invalid. A Pokemon console MMO that played at least somewhat like the "core" games, could be amazing. "

Why Nintendo hasn't capitalized on this idea is something I will never understand. "

well yeah, aint nothing I like better than pokemon'ing it up when I'm traveling.

" Online capabilities these days make his reason somewhat invalid. A Pokemon console MMO that played at least somewhat like the "core" games, could be amazing. "

" @Ichorid4 said:

" Pure copout. These guys don't have the balls to step up and take their franchise to consoles and big screens, frankly.  There's a lot you can get away with in a handheld game that you can't pull in a real AAA title. Game Freak knows this and is running scared. "

Yes, selling one of the most popular series of all time (which gets more popular and higher rated with every iteration) and having no real reason to put it on another system is running scared. Also, handhelds can't have "AAA" titles because uh "

a bunch of optional stuff you never need to really use

I'm fine with Pokemon being on hand helds forever. I like Pokemon because I can play it anywhere, and for short or long amounts of time.
 
What I would like is some sort of customization of my playable character. I don't really care about the cartoons so the fact that I'm just playing the newest cartoon character is kind of dumb to me. I feel like it would be an easy thing to change, but idk if they ever will.

With every new gameboy the graphics become better and better and the 3DS is pretty much an N64 so at some point they will have to make a full on 3d ( I mean 3d like zelda ocarina of time) Pokemon. 

I'm just waiting for the pokemon mmo.

" @ajamafalous said:

" @DoctorWelch said:

" There hasnt been anything significant introduced to the games that makes them any more interesting and in fact, the only thing they've really been adding is more pokemon which is actually the opposite of what the games need and the only thing that should stay the same. "

That is completely false and shows that you likely haven't played anything past Gen II for more than a few hours if at all. "

No it actually isnt false at all. I've played through a game of every pokemon generation and everything they've added is pointless, insignificant, and doesnt really change the formula or mechanics enough to make it more interesting.  In fact, when you go back and play the older games, the battles and the game itself is paced much better and feels much faster. The newer games seem to be more sluggish and annoying in even the most simplest of aspects. "

Translation: Pokemon games sell what ever new Nintendo handheld they are trying to sell at the moment, so Nintendo said they would hire Yakuza to rape and kill all of our families if we ever made a real Pokemon game not on a handheld.

I really don't understand this. If they made an in depth, fully realized pokemon game for the consoles myself and probably everyone i know would buy it. The only real reason i stopped playing pokemon is because its the same damn thing every year.

" @DoctorWelch said:

" There hasnt been anything significant introduced to the games that makes them any more interesting and in fact, the only thing they've really been adding is more pokemon which is actually the opposite of what the games need and the only thing that should stay the same. "

That is completely false and shows that you likely haven't played anything past Gen II for more than a few hours if at all. "

" Pure copout. These guys don't have the balls to step up and take their franchise to consoles and big screens, frankly.  There's a lot you can get away with in a handheld game that you can't pull in a real AAA title. Game Freak knows this and is running scared. "

Yet another "NO SHIT" article, Brad2. Why not release a real pokemon game on consoles? I've been waiting for one since the SNES.

" @Landon: Pokemon on consoles just won't work as well. Nor will an MMO. And I'm glad they've figured that out too.   I just don't understand what the appeal is. Half the fun was being able to go anywhere, battle, and trade with your school mates or co-workers, or whatever. It's built around social gaming, and what better way to do that then by having your Pokemon with you at all times? That's why, apart from making more money, they release 2 versions. To give people a reason to trade around.     The main Pokemon games are meant for portables. That's the way they were designed since conception.        If all you really want are better graphics, then wait for the true 3DS Pokemon game. I'm certain with all that new horse power they'll have a completely different looking game.   And don't even get me started on arguing against a Pokemon MMO. I don't think there's a worse idea for a Pokemon game than that.  "

Pure copout. These guys don't have the balls to step up and take their franchise to consoles and big screens, frankly. 
 
There's a lot you can get away with in a handheld game that you can't pull in a real AAA title. Game Freak knows this and is running scared.

Pocket Monsters, out of your pocket and on your television!

He's right, a core console mmo, fully 3d real time battles isn't something we've all been waiting for.
 
But I'm still getting white but I really hope they change it up one day.

Just make Pokémon Stadium 3, and I'll be happy.

I know I'm not Nintendo's demographic with this stuff, but everytime I play a pokemon game on my DS, I sure as hell don't do it in public. A home console version would be fun, and would take advantage of available hardware. Just don't make it a Wii game. Whatever comes after that, ideally a console that looks good on modern TVs. 

" The excerpts from the interview only sounds like excuses to me.  The ideas of pokemon they have in mind can be done better on a console with a good internet structure, but they dismiss it as being not what pokemon means to "him". How about what it means to the fans?  It's understandable they won't need to attempt a risky project until the handheld series goes unprofitable which also isn't likely in the near future. "

The excerpts from the interview only sounds like excuses to me.  The ideas of pokemon they have in mind can be done better on a console with a good internet structure, but they dismiss it as being not what pokemon means to "him". How about what it means to the fans?  It's understandable they won't need to attempt a risky project until the handheld series goes unprofitable which also isn't likely in the near future.

I still think it would be cool if they some how translated the idea of Pokemon and everything that the main games in the series is to a console to expand upon what is already there, and to improve various areas.

augh... nintendo, why? Pokemon XD worked fine as a console game,as well as colosseum. so why can't we get closure for that story? I wanna see what happened to Wes.

Hey guys, Game Freak is not going to make the Pokemon game you've dreamed of, since they're content with making the same game they've made for the past 15+ years now, for a younger audience each time. 
 
Surprised?

" Am I the only person on the planet who loves the Pokemon Colosseum games?  "

Am I the only person on the planet who loves the Pokemon Colosseum games? 

Game Freaks - "We are committed to making this series as uninteresting as possible for as long as we can."

Well it's called Pocket Monsters for a reason.

" @Pudge: It is rumoured they're developing a new Pokemon Stadium game, which includes a lite adventure mode, similar to XD and Colosseum.  They're only saying here that it wouldn't be something to rival the handheld games.  "

" There hasnt been anything significant introduced to the games that makes them any more interesting and in fact, the only thing they've really been adding is more pokemon which is actually the opposite of what the games need and the only thing that should stay the same. "