Rage's PC Launch Problems Attributed to Driver Issues [UPDATED]

That's the price you pay for better performance: compatibility cluster fucks like this. But really, is it going to kill you if you can't play the game for a few days while they fix the problem? You're on a fucking computer; go play Binding of Isaac or something.

I only buy ATI cards because nvida charges too much for only a few more FPS in 90% of the cases. Just sucks that most of the time game developers, only use nvida cards to develop their games.

LOOKS GOOD! SHIP IT!

@wolf_blitzer85: Sorry man but I'm going to shoot that comment down. You're clearly speaking from an uninformed position.

I guarantee this wasn't "missed" by the testers. They brought it up, it was shot down higher up the chain. QA departments in every company everywhere have to struggle against business and design decisions in order to get issues addressed.

If you're going to put the blame on some one I'd look at Bethesda or higher up the chain at ID and of course ATI may not be completely guilt free in this as well. It's not like they're known for being on the ball lately.

Chiming in for the "this is why I stopped playing pc games" crowd. I used to be a hardcore pc gamer and didn't even own consoles as a kid growing up. This sorta stuff just completely burned me out and I very rarely look back.

I do have very fond BF1942, Enemy Territory and Fallout 1+2 moments. Fallout 3 really hurt..wish Bethesda would have left it to die..

dunno if its been posted before but i found this one i found on reddit pretty funny

comparison between the different platforms graphicly

http://www.sizefivegames.com/uploads/rage_satire.png

cant wait for the release in europe on friday i think it is, jugding by this image I might run it on my pentium 4 with my voodoo graphics card! :D HEY its an id game afterall

Yeah, driver issues, or John Carmack has simply lost his touch.

---OH GOD, Brad please stop hitting me, it was just a joke, I swear!

@gbrading said:

Kind of expected this to be honest. This is why I'm probably waiting a few months before I play Rage, to when it gets smoothed out. The same thing happens with many PC games these days, sadly.

True, but I can't help but feel even in the 1995-2005 era of pc games, constant issues, glitches, and crashes were pretty common. Like, I'm not sure there's every been a truly "smooth sailing" experience for pc users.

@Dread612 said:

Couple of my friends that got this game both have ATI cards and both are getting terrible texture pop in.

id, look you idiots, ATI makes up 32% of the market, how about you make the game functional to a sizable portion of your potential customers.

http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey

See what I did there? I own a Nvidia card and I personally dislike ATI products because they burnt me with their driver bullshit back in the 90s. However, rather than troll ATI owners, how bout we stand up for our fellow gamers against the companies that do this and demand a better product for our $60 regardless of platform or video card.

oh man the 90's and 2000's both! I became a huge nvidia supporter back then because their cards actually let me play my games. ATI was pure garbage back then.

IF your running a Nvidia 400-500 GTX DO THIS

http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2154357&page=3

Fixed my screen tearing issues instantly Didn't have any problems with texture loading.Game is fun as shit but god damn why didn't they add check pointing.

Its times like this that make me glad to live in the UK when we get games later.  You yanks find all the hidden bugs and we get a patch day 1 when its released over here so its all gravy.
 
will be interesting to see how quickly things get resolved :)

Haha they blame it on the drivers...

Haha some people even bite on that...

@James0890: Because Rage is an exclusively OpenGL game. I can't remember the last time a AAA titles used OpenGL instead of DirectX's Direct3D.

@NaDannMaGoGo said:

Haha they blame it on the drivers...

Haha some people even bite on that...

A person from AMD confirms there is a driver issue : https://twitter.com/#!/CatalystCreator/status/121248985557118976

All - don't use the current Rage performance driver - package includes very old OGL files, that's why you're seeing corruption etc

That's the price you pay for better performance: compatibility cluster fucks like this. But really, is it going to kill you if you can't play the game for a few days while they fix the problem? You're on a fucking computer; go play Binding of Isaac or something.

Haha they blame it on the drivers...

Haha some people even bite on that...

Good news. AConsidering all I had to do to get the game smooth with little pop in was to lower the resolution, I suppose now I can just hope for smooth play at higher resolutions.

@Vegsen:

you mean back in the day, when they could be stored on 1 floppy disk

@ajamafalous: Ok... that's funny.

Official release for Ukraine is the 7th of October, hope they gonna fix something, because I have already pre-ordered the game.

@Dread612 said:

See what I did there? I own a Nvidia card and I personally dislike ATI products because they burnt me with their driver bullshit back in the 90s. However, rather than troll ATI owners, how bout we stand up for our fellow gamers against the companies that do this and demand a better product for our $60 regardless of platform or video card.

Yep, I had the same experience with an expensive ATI card back around 2000 that had problems which prevented a lot of games from being playable at all. The first set of driver updates for the card took something like six damn months. Swore off ATI. In fact, the current ATI card is the first one (and I buy a new top of the line card every 12-24 months) in over a decade. Performs very well and the drivers have been great. However, I've been seeing myself leaning closer toward NVIDIA again, for my next purchase. (Part of what drove me away from NVIDIA this past time was the performance, heat, and noise issues compared to the ATI cards at the same time for the price).

This is literally the worst possible launch that could have possibly happened to id. You couldn't write a worse situation. It's too bad too, because the game is pretty sweet but nobody is going to talk about anything but the tech issues.

*hugs* GTX570

Couple of my friends that got this game both have ATI cards and both are getting terrible texture pop in.

id, look you idiots, ATI makes up 32% of the market, how about you make the game functional to a sizable portion of your potential customers.

http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey

See what I did there? I own a Nvidia card and I personally dislike ATI products because they burnt me with their driver bullshit back in the 90s. However, rather than troll ATI owners, how bout we stand up for our fellow gamers against the companies that do this and demand a better product for our $60 regardless of platform or video card.

It looks visually great, but it’s not the jump forward that I was hoping for gameplay wise.

I still have high hopes for Doom 4.

@Enigma777 said:

And this is exactly why I game on consoles.

Good for you.

I'll continue playing both console and PC games instead of looking for news articles to justify my platform decisions.

@Matthew said:

I don't get it. I have a 580, 2500k, and plenty of RAM. If anything, this game is awesome, because it doesn't make my gpu go above 60c. The Battlefield 3 Beta is pushing the gpu temp to 87c. Rage is fun to play and is looking great on my pc...

Uhm. Battlefield 3 is putting more load on your GPU then, simple. You bought a graphics card, do you not want games to utilise it? Temperatures increase or decrease based on the amount of load the card is under. It's not a case of one game simply being badly designed resulting in high temperatures.

87 degrees isn't going to damage your card, seriously.

@Anthony: The difference is you could, and still can, load an unpatched copy of Starcraft onto any computer in the universe, and it'll work.

@MordeaniisChaos: NVIDIA have their own issues, I remember when they shipped drivers that literally broke hardware because they fucked up the fan profiles.

Although this whole beta driver thing is ridiculous, you shouldn't need any beta drivers in the first place to make the game work properly.

@ribeye said:

yay nvidia sucks less!!!!

Right? I hate my AMD. Still running a 5770 and that thing has issues constantly. AMD always seems to be the ones with issues like this.

How can they blame it on the drivers? You'd think they would have noticed that it doesn't work at all on AMD cards before the game was released.

Awful screen-tearing on NVIDIA SLI setup. There are no video options, so i can't just turn vsync on. Also, Rage is only using like 40% of a single-card (out of 2x560 ti).

And this is exactly why I game on consoles.

@admanb said:

The last few paragraphs are so fantastically PC GAMING.

The last three paragraphs are some of the reasons why I don't really like PC gaming. Using linux, comfort with my current setup in my house and the fact that I work in front of a computer and it feels much better to have a TV (although I could plug a PC to my TV if I was willing to spend money on another PC) are some other reasons.

Hopefully, I'll move about the same time this generation ends. In that case I may go back to PC gaming, with a different setup in my (next) house.

I only had a few texture pop in issues otherwise I've been fine

@Gav47: People have a right to complain when the product they got was shit, if all my others games work fine on AMD cards how is it their fault that Rage is broken at launch?

More like un-smooth things out. Amirite? Anyone?

Sad state of affairs. Almost glad the Australian unlock isn't until Saturday morning.

Seems like an ATI balls-up, as nVidia have been encouraging use of Rage-specific beta drivers (v285.38) since a week or two ago.

Will be interesting to watch this play out. :)

So happy I didn't buy this shit game for $60.

The last few paragraphs are so fantastically PC GAMING.

To be fair, how could id have known that many of their customers would be using ATI or nVidia cards. What are they, 3% of the market??

Lifted this from Reddit, screenshot comparison of Rage per system: 
 

I'm not in the "AMD/ATI drivers have always sucked" department like some people (who probably last used an ATI card in 1999), but this time I think they REALLY fucked up, as in "public apology needed" fucked up.

@Vegsen: No, I just remember when there was no way of fixing them.

I have got to say. I love Patrick's news stories. Great addition to GB.

Crash to desktop :(

Yesterday I put an order in on Amazon for an EVGA GeForce GTX 570 HD SC to replace my GTX 260 that I have had for a few years in anticipation of Rage. Last night, when the steam version unlocked at 11 CST, I started the game with the GTX 260 still in my machine to test how it would run, and sort of get a before/after comparison.

It ran beautifully. Flawlessly, even. Solid 60 fps. My jaw was on the floor.

Then this morning the whole internet has been losing their heads over how broken the PC version of Rage is. For everyone out there having issues, you certainly have my sympathy. But I cannot say the game is broken at all. If anything, it seems like it ran almost "too" well with my 3 year old hardware.

I don't get it. I have a 580, 2500k, and plenty of RAM. If anything, this game is awesome, because it doesn't make my gpu go above 60c. The Battlefield 3 Beta is pushing the gpu temp to 87c. Rage is fun to play and is looking great on my pc...

I'm one of the folks experiencing all the issues listed above. It's absolutely abysmal. I can live with some tearing, but the performance and texture popping are completely awful. I couldn't believe what I was seeing. Along with the random full screen garbage artifacts, and plain 'ol UGLY textures, it's a god damn catastrophe.

Though that's not the only problem. Menus are basically broken when it comes to mouse controls with them being way too sensitive. Then the look mouse controls feel like they are lagging and not as responsive as they should be. I hate to say it, because it is such a overly used complaint by PC gamers, but this really does feel like a console port. It's absolutely appalling Especially coming from id.

guess it's a good thing i'm waiting to get it then, why has there been a few PC releases that have been day 1 buggy?