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Recent Design Changes [UPDATED]

We've been mucking up your favorite websites a bit, by embiggening them.

UPDATE: Based on feedback from our subscribers we recently made the following changes to the video hub.

  1. Logged in users will see the latest videos by default.
  2. You can now toggle auto-play on or off.
  3. Subscribers can now select HTML5 as a video option if they're using a supporting browser. (Chrome, Safari, IE9)
  4. Back button functionality now is completely consistant across the entire page.
  5. Middle clicks and command-clicks act as normal for opening new tabs.
  6. Timestamps added to video thumbnails (this one will be in this afternoon).

We'll continue to monitor feedback and make changes as needed. Thanks for the support.

ORIGINAL STORY: This post is likely a bit overdue. If you haven't noticed by now, the engineers have been fooling around quite a bit on the Whiskey Media sites' design over the last several weeks. Right now those changes only show up on Giant Bomb and Screened, but expect the rest of the network to receive these same updates relatively soon. In general, most of these redesigns have been met with approval, but I felt now was a good time to explain the thought process since we're planning to do a lot more pixel-pushing in the next few months.

In general our team tries to accomplish the following every time we start a redesign project:

  1. Remove clicks and make the content more accessible.
  2. Provide a better experience for the subscribers that support us.
  3. Be pretty.

Today Alexis and Mike launched a new video hub that hopefully hit all three. The page looks the same for subscribers and regular members, but in use they are drastically different. Rather than explain it, check out the video below. Put simply, we removed page loads completely for subscribers so that they can get from video to video much faster.

Pretty cool, huh? Same page and layout, but really a better experience for our paid members. I'm bringing this up because it's something we plan on doing a lot more of as we attack pages to redesign this year and wanted to be upfront with you guys about it. The reasoning is simple. For non-paying members we still have to worry about pageviews. Those pages contain ads, and ads bring us revenue. For subscribers, well, you're already helping us out, so we're gonna build the site towards you as if we were building it for ourselves. That is to say my dream site, a site without clutter and tedium. Biodigital jazz, man.

That said, I still think the Internet is mostly a mess when it comes to UI and we will always try to avoid adding to the pile. For non-subscribers we will continue our policies of not taking away features that exist and not adding undue pageloads that break up content. That means no multi-page reviews, slideshow galleries, or general click traps intended to do nothing but load ads. It's simply a bad way to build the web, and Whiskey Media wants to stay in the not pissing you off business. But as we attack new pages, we do plan on giving subscribers as many high fives as possible.

If you have any questions or concerns please let me know in the comments below or through a private message. If the sillyness of an "embiggen" button has taught you anything, it's that we listen to all the stupid ideas that come our way. Thanks for supporting our sites.

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Edited By unsolvedparadox

Looks pretty slick so far, glad I'm a paying member!

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Edited By allenibrahim
@Meowshi said:
@allenibrahim said:
Awww. I feel like subscribers always get the coolest features now. 
Face it kid, we're nothing but the rabble now.  
Aww man. Someday, I'm going to forma  ragtag group of rebels and we're going to tear down the walls of Whiskey Media's members! And we're going to take their leaders! And we're going to WATCH HAPPY HOURS!! To arms, my bretheren!
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Edited By circ

Glad to see GB/WM keeping things user/customer centric.

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@allenibrahim said:
Awww. I feel like subscribers always get the coolest features now. 
Face it kid, we're nothing but the rabble now.  
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Edited By NHLmaniac

@nigglesmckraken: Firefox doesn't support HTML 5. There is nothing Whiskey Media can do about it.If Mozilla ever adds HTML 5 to Firefox then it should start working automatically on Giant Bomb.

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Edited By beard_of_zeus

@Babylonian said:

You guys are so awesome to us. There was one thing about the autoplayer I didn't like, and within 24 hours, you fix that and then add five more features. Seriously, you're the best.

Totally agree. Many thanks especially for the autoplay on/off toggle.

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Edited By TheHakku

Embiggen has become a reality.

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Edited By rargy

Alright, now it's awesome.

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terrible

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Edited By dexxfm

Can we get FIrefox added to the HTML5 support?

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@Scrawnto: Yup, I know. Just pointing it out, as it doesn't seem like that would be the way it was intended to work.

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Edited By Scrawnto

@Sek0n: Pressing F11 should hide the taskbar/addressbar/etc in chrome.

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Edited By Sek0n

Really loving the new stuff. :)

HTML5 full screen doesn't seem to work correctly though. In chrome it goes into in-browser fullscreen(still see the addressbar/taskbar/etc), and IE9 doesn't even show the fullscreen button.

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@DeeGee said:

@JamesKond said:

@100_Hertz said:

edit edit: Wait, hold on. I just reread the post and watched the video. You're telling me that if I wasn't a subscriber I would be able to actually open videos in new tabs?! Well, what the fuck! In this very specific case, I would actually prefer to not be a paying member.

Also, I do like the embiggen button.

I love using tabs for videos (loading two videos at the same time or whatever) I have been considering becoming a member, but this seems like a bad thing. But hey, room for improvement!

I don't understand this at all. At no point was your ability to right click and select 'open in new tab' taken away.

You're right, at no point was that ability taken away, but the ability to quickly and efficiently with one finger motion tab up multiple videos from the video page using key commands was indeed taken away. And that's something you would value too if it was important to your workflow and the way you've been browsing the web for years. But no worries, because they've already said a fix is forthcoming. Good ol' Top Men.

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Edited By Shimakaze

I love it so far, but There are some things I really would like to have changed. 

  • The video that is set to play next always defaults to the newest video on the site. If watching something like the endurance run it would be much more intuitive to have the next episode played automatically. Also, it might be just me, but when I watch a video from a while back and it loads up the next video it seems like the next video in the relevant list should be played.
  • I would REALLY love a queue/playlist function
  • As commented before, there should be full screen search results with sorting options when pressing enter. (sorting by date added, alphabetical and so on)


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Edited By RPG_Master

Subscribers can now select HTML5 as a video option if they're using a supporting browser. (Chrome, Safari, IE9)  

So I'm assuming y'all are currently using H.264. Any plans for switching to webm anytime soon?

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Edited By coonce

Great post dave. @Subscribers -- thanks so so much for helping us out :)

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Edited By Philzpilz

Thanks guys, you're awesome

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Edited By ChrisTaran

Even with auto play disabled videos continue to auto play. I'm using Chrome 12.0.742.100 on Mac OS X.

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Edited By Silver-Streak

Dave Snider and his Team of Top Men are awesome. No other sites of this nature listen to user feedback on changes. Just look at Gawker and it's nonsense.

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Damn

Dave Snider and the team are goddamn awesome.

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Edited By allenibrahim

Awww. I feel like subscribers always get the coolest features now. 

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Dave, these videos can't even pop up in front of my face Dead Space-style, and it's the 21st century. You guys really need to catch up with the times.

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Auto play button doesn't work for me yet. No matter if it is set to on or off everything still autoplays when I switch videos. Using Chrome.

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Edited By babylonian

You guys are so awesome to us. There was one thing about the autoplayer I didn't like, and within 24 hours, you fix that and then add five more features. Seriously, you're the best.

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new comments design is cool. The keeps getting better.

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Edited By Digi7alS3lf

The redesign looks great.

Is there any update regarding the load times?

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All these layout changes are so fucking sexy, just sleek and amazing.

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Edited By FlipperDesert

Looking pretty slick, I just wish I wasn't a poor student with an iPhone bill and summer coming up.

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Edited By TigerDX

This is a great improvement over the current video stuff. The player still doesn't have keyboard shortcuts for going back 10 seconds or 1 minute, but I guess that's how Flowplayer is and you guys can't really change that.

I'd like to recall the idea Jeff had once about having a way of getting a straight shot of all Giant Bomb original videos. The Featured list almost covers this, but it doesn't include a lot of interviews or I Love Mondays, for example. I want to express how much I think this would be an awesome feature, and really hope there will be a way to get that in the future.

(As an aside, almost my only reason for downloading videos these days is to have the convenient keyboard scrubbing in VLC for when I miss something. That and they generally run better on my Mac that way.)

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Edited By mrcellophane

Guys, please please PLEASE add an "edits overview" to the wiki pages so we can figure out who is reverting our well-meant edits, and duke it out with them! I'm holding off doing hardcore wiki work until then

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Edited By Nasar7

If you keep making smart updates like that I may subscribe yet.

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I'm not sure if I like WALL OF VIDEOS. It's a little overwhelming at first.

I love the embiggen button.

Thanks for trying to make some cool improvements!

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Really nice work on the site, duders. It's inspiring :)
Gonna go premium tonight, finally worth it, even on a student budget.

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@TinyGallon: We have a fix for the iPad issues along with HTML5 support coming in a couple hours.

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I'm really digging the new layout changes. The sites look awesome! I've got a few feature requests as well as a bug rapport though:

Could we have more precise timestamps in the comments please? That plus a robust notification system whenever someone answers a thread you're participating in would really improve the commenting section.

In the bug department, I've noticed scrolling problems with the arrow keys whenever I use the New Editor. Pressing the up and down keys result in something similar to pressing home/end. Changing to the Old Editor clears up the bug. I'm using Firefox 4.0.1/Windows and running it in safemode doesn't help (so I doubt it's my extensions).

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Edited By TinyGallon

Having some weird usability problems with my iPad on the Videos page.

When you click the name of a video, the title in the upper Right Hand will change to the correct title, however the video box stays the same and gives the error message "Flash version 9.0 or greater is required" (I can still click on the Video's title in the Upper Right to go to that Page, where the video is displayed correctly)

Not sure the pecking order for iPad bugs, but watching HD video thru it *is* the reason I'm a subscriber. Keep up the great work! Thanks :)

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Edited By MrMuscle

Im using IE and i have some problems with the DOWNLOAD button on the videos. Because of the EMBED button right below it wont let me select a quality on my download so i cant get it to start. It just jumps out of the menu and targets the EMBED button.

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The engineering talent at Whiskey Media is beyond amazing.

Thanks for being so open about the rational behind the design changes! The paid membership is totally worth it!

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Thanks for all the nice perks for being a subscriber. I'd be a paid member even without them, $50 a year or whatever it is is a small price to pay to help support the content I love so much.

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Edited By vager

Absolutely love embiggen!

Embiggen would work well in text articles too, by moving the sidebar down and giving the entire article the site's full width. I hope you'll consider it when you start working on that part.

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Edited By rmanthorp  Moderator

Subscribing next month! :D

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I love it and am glad that you guys are building the site design for us subscribers.

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FYI - From Dave's twitter: "Feedback that makes sense. Autoplay optional, timestamps, open in new window. The team will tweak and improve as usual in the next week."

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This design philosophy warms my heart. It's one of the reasons I've pitched my tent over there in the alleyway way back when. I need to set fire to no trashcans to keep my digits from falling off if there are no mutliple page views. 
 
All I've noticed is that the site feels a bit faster, which makes me less sad...  is that called happy? Yes. Happy.

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@heavyplay said:

Is there any way to stop the next video from automatically loading and playing after the clip I'm watching has finished? Because I really hate that.

+1

If I have to walk away from my computer or switch to another task quickly I want to be able to come back to the same video.

I'd also prefer the Video Hub to default to the Newest videos, not the Featured ones.

Otherwise it's slick. Good job.

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Edited By heavyplay

@DeeGee said:

@JamesKond said:

@100_Hertz said:

edit edit: Wait, hold on. I just reread the post and watched the video. You're telling me that if I wasn't a subscriber I would be able to actually open videos in new tabs?! Well, what the fuck! In this very specific case, I would actually prefer to not be a paying member.

Also, I do like the embiggen button.

I love using tabs for videos (loading two videos at the same time or whatever) I have been considering becoming a member, but this seems like a bad thing. But hey, room for improvement!

I don't understand this at all. At no point was your ability to right click and select 'open in new tab' taken away.

I think the confusion is that middle-click for new tab no longer works. Right click -> new tab (like you said) still works.

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Edited By heavyplay

Is there any way to stop the next video from automatically loading and playing after the clip I'm watching has finished? Because I really hate that.

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@Siphillis: We used to have 'em, but they got rid of them a year and a half ago, maybe two. They didn't really add much.

Basically, what you're asking for is for them to get rid of the "FIRST!" quest. To which I say: no.