Rise From Your Grave, True Crime: Hong Kong

Well hey, that's pretty cool Square-Enix.

@PrimeSynergy said:

I saw the headline and just began to laugh uncontrollably. This is going to be great. Not the game, mind you, I mean the spectacle of this game tanking and Square coming up with some excuse as to why this game failed.

Always baffled when people are so eager for developers and publishers to fail.

@HubrisRanger: It just doesn't connect in some people's minds that this isn't a hobby for these guys. It's their job. It's years of their lives. It's how they feed their families and pay their bills.

@TheDudeOfGaming said:

The first two games SUCKED. I really don't see how they plan to make a good game out of a franchise that failed two times.

the first game didn't suck. in fact, it was quite good.

@TheDudeOfGaming said:

The first two games SUCKED. I really don't see how they plan to make a good game out of a franchise that failed two times.

the first game didn't suck. in fact, it was quite good.

You know what? I don't care about this one fig. Square Enix seems bound and determined to lose its identity in mediocrity and half-assed games. I get that they want their share of the western market and have decided to steer their releases in that direction, but until they stop this half-hearted attempt and get out there to find out what it takes to make a great western-feel game, they're going to continue to pump out sad could-have-beens like The Last Remnant, Final Fantasy XIII, or Infinite Undiscovery. The last game they published that I really cared about was Just Cause 2, and even that, I purchased at a steep, steep discount. Square Enix is lost right now, and games like this are not how they're going to get me back as a consumer. I hope at some point to be a Square Enix fan again, so prove me wrong, Square. Make this game great.

Square Enix funding a game that's not another awful Final Fantasy game seems like a plus.

Best news i have heard in awhile, people can poo poo on it all they want but from all the gameplay footage i have seen it looked incredibly fun, and that's why i play video games, to have FUN.

good to hear its coming back, open world game in Hong Kong sounds awesome.

It would be cool if Square went back to the original ideas they were doing for this game, where it starred a female protagonist.

@swomar said:

@President_Barackbar said:

Oh yeah, True Crime AND Square Enix, two names I immediately associate with quality /eyeroll

I know that it's cool nowadays to shit on Square Enix, but their games are generally of high quality whether you're into them or not. Of course they've had a couple of flops, especially recently, but every publisher has some of these. And they're the exception not the rule.

Completely agree, really bites my ass that gamers are so goddamn jaded these days, for how many years no decades has square given us quality titles? so what if they released some shitty ones are companies not allowed to have some shitty games? this isn't blizzard, these companies actually release more than 1 game every 10 years so everything can't be perfect.

First EA was shitted on, then Activision now capcom now back to SE it's ridiculous, play your games and be happy you are able to play them you jaded whining little babies, be thankful you have the money/ability to play your games, be thankful the gaming industry survived when it was supposed to die.

God forbid one of you actually make it a day in your life enjoying a video game instead of coming to the internet to complain about games you don't even care about, i used to think PC "elitist" were bad but the console kids are just ridiculous

/rant

Now i am off to enjoy FF13, yeah i bought it and enjoyed it deal with it haters.

@PrimeSynergy said:

I saw the headline and just began to laugh uncontrollably. This is going to be great. Not the game, mind you, I mean the spectacle of this game tanking and Square coming up with some excuse as to why this game failed.

Always baffled when people are so eager for developers and publishers to fail.

Wouldn't it be great if Squeenix re-re-worked this game back into Black Lotus, the non- True Crime title it started life as before Activision decided they don't like female protagonists?

Awesome news, loved where this game was headed.

So, the game Activision killed, after spending boatloads of time and money on it, because the quality was bad (IIRC, that was the implication at the time) is getting scooped up by Sq/nix?

/picture of that drunk from TinTin laughing so hard he cries.jpg

Not to rain on people's parade, but for anyone sceptical about Square Enix's pedigree lately: Square Enix does have a hand in the Batman: Arkham series. Whether or not that makes up for their high profile duds is probably best left for another discussion.

@Styl3s said:

@swomar said:

@President_Barackbar said:

Oh yeah, True Crime AND Square Enix, two names I immediately associate with quality /eyeroll

I know that it's cool nowadays to shit on Square Enix, but their games are generally of high quality whether you're into them or not. Of course they've had a couple of flops, especially recently, but every publisher has some of these. And they're the exception not the rule.

Completely agree, really bites my ass that gamers are so goddamn jaded these days, for how many years no decades has square given us quality titles? so what if they released some shitty ones are companies not allowed to have some shitty games? this isn't blizzard, these companies actually release more than 1 game every 10 years so everything can't be perfect.

First EA was shitted on, then Activision now capcom now back to SE it's ridiculous, play your games and be happy you are able to play them you jaded whining little babies, be thankful you have the money/ability to play your games, be thankful the gaming industry survived when it was supposed to die.

God forbid one of you actually make it a day in your life enjoying a video game instead of coming to the internet to complain about games you don't even care about, i used to think PC "elitist" were bad but the console kids are just ridiculous

/rant

Now i am off to enjoy FF13, yeah i bought it and enjoyed it deal with it haters.

Dear oh dear, where do I start with this one? I will admit, I give fuckall about Final Fantasy, but Square doesn't make what I consider to be quality titles. Not only that, True Crime is CERTAINLY not a franchise that's had ANY kind of quality in the past. And you automatically say I'm some kind of "console kid" because I'm skeptical of a product that was already cancelled once being revived by a company I don't think delivers quality entertainment? What the fuck does that even have to do with platform elitism? And saying you enjoy FFXIII doesn't make you some kind of "deep" gamer. Why do people think championing games that aren't very well regarded makes them better than everyone else?

franchises never really die, they just go away for a while sometimes 
 
on one hand, I feel like we can have room for mid-tier games on the market, but on the other hand those games need to realize where they stand and price themselves accordingly, even $40 is pushing it I feel.

I'm glad Square Enix is taking a risk with this one. I like the city of Hong Kong and would like to see a good action game set in it.

Didn't Activision specifically say they cancelled this game because it wasn't going to be good?

Yeah...not super excited about this.

I  didnt think this game would ever be released, I'm genuinely suprised. I hope it doesnt actualy suck...

@BananaKid said:

Didn't Activision specifically say they cancelled this game because it wasn't going to be good?

Yeah...not super excited about this.

No, they cancelled it because they felt it wouldn't sell (not the numbers they wanted at least).

HARD-BOILED!

@BananaKid said:

Didn't Activision specifically say they cancelled this game because it wasn't going to be good?

Yeah...not super excited about this.

No, they cancelled it because they felt it wouldn't sell (not the numbers they wanted at least).

@HS21 said:

@zoner said:

@FoxMulder said:

@Resident4t said:

@FoxMulder said:

....ugh why? Far better games have been cancelled I'm sure, why bring this series back fro mthe dead?

Answer to your questions
1. "When we first saw and got our hands on the game we fell in love with it," said Square Enix London
2. picked up the development rights to True Crime: Hong Kong--but NOTthe franchise itself." Those were both in the article :3 On Topic : I for one am excited, I liked the little footage that was shown of the game.

Thank you for answering my rhetorical questions!

You kind of asked for it with your uppity 'ugh! Why do people like stuff I dont!'

UNGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. Excited for this game.

I do hope you're planning on cleaning that up.

@President_Barackbar said:

@Styl3s said:

@swomar said:

@President_Barackbar said:

Oh yeah, True Crime AND Square Enix, two names I immediately associate with quality /eyeroll

I know that it's cool nowadays to shit on Square Enix, but their games are generally of high quality whether you're into them or not. Of course they've had a couple of flops, especially recently, but every publisher has some of these. And they're the exception not the rule.

Completely agree, really bites my ass that gamers are so goddamn jaded these days, for how many years no decades has square given us quality titles? so what if they released some shitty ones are companies not allowed to have some shitty games? this isn't blizzard, these companies actually release more than 1 game every 10 years so everything can't be perfect.

First EA was shitted on, then Activision now capcom now back to SE it's ridiculous, play your games and be happy you are able to play them you jaded whining little babies, be thankful you have the money/ability to play your games, be thankful the gaming industry survived when it was supposed to die.

God forbid one of you actually make it a day in your life enjoying a video game instead of coming to the internet to complain about games you don't even care about, i used to think PC "elitist" were bad but the console kids are just ridiculous

/rant

Now i am off to enjoy FF13, yeah i bought it and enjoyed it deal with it haters.

Dear oh dear, where do I start with this one? I will admit, I give fuckall about Final Fantasy, but Square doesn't make what I consider to be quality titles. Not only that, True Crime is CERTAINLY not a franchise that's had ANY kind of quality in the past. And you automatically say I'm some kind of "console kid" because I'm skeptical of a product that was already cancelled once being revived by a company I don't think delivers quality entertainment? What the fuck does that even have to do with platform elitism? And saying you enjoy FFXIII doesn't make you some kind of "deep" gamer. Why do people think championing games that aren't very well regarded makes them better than everyone else?

1. It's your opinion they don't make quality games, NES-Current games that square has made, millions of gamers agree they MAKE quality games, but it's all opinions

2. I never said YOU were a console kid, don't flatter yourself because i don't know who you are and frankly don't care, my comment was pointing towards console kids who only care about graphics and current gen

3. Never said i was better, never said i was a "deep" gamer because i enjoy FF13, either you are illiterate or assume too much.

And it all boils down to opinions, if you don't like them then you can well.. you know.

Rating, Sells and millions upon millions of fans can't be fake, square has and does make quality games, just because you don't think they do doesn't make it untrue. I think bungie sucks but doesn't change the fact they make and made quality games. Get yourself kid.

I can honestly say that I didn't see this coming. Who knows how the game was before Activision cancelled it, and it's even more unclear how it'll end up with Square applying the finishing touch. I'm hoping, but not expecting, for a nice result.

@Meatsim said:

Square Enix funding a game that's not another awful Final Fantasy game seems like a plus.

You... Must not notice Square's name on a lot of games, huh?

I LOVE the True Crime series...but I won't play this game if it doesn't have the name...I don't give a fuck if it has the same spirit, I want the name on the fucking box.

@President_Barackbar said:

@Styl3s said:

@swomar said:

@President_Barackbar said:

Oh yeah, True Crime AND Square Enix, two names I immediately associate with quality /eyeroll

I know that it's cool nowadays to shit on Square Enix, but their games are generally of high quality whether you're into them or not. Of course they've had a couple of flops, especially recently, but every publisher has some of these. And they're the exception not the rule.

Completely agree, really bites my ass that gamers are so goddamn jaded these days, for how many years no decades has square given us quality titles? so what if they released some shitty ones are companies not allowed to have some shitty games? this isn't blizzard, these companies actually release more than 1 game every 10 years so everything can't be perfect.

First EA was shitted on, then Activision now capcom now back to SE it's ridiculous, play your games and be happy you are able to play them you jaded whining little babies, be thankful you have the money/ability to play your games, be thankful the gaming industry survived when it was supposed to die.

God forbid one of you actually make it a day in your life enjoying a video game instead of coming to the internet to complain about games you don't even care about, i used to think PC "elitist" were bad but the console kids are just ridiculous

/rant

Now i am off to enjoy FF13, yeah i bought it and enjoyed it deal with it haters.

Dear oh dear, where do I start with this one? I will admit, I give fuckall about Final Fantasy, but Square doesn't make what I consider to be quality titles. Not only that, True Crime is CERTAINLY not a franchise that's had ANY kind of quality in the past. And you automatically say I'm some kind of "console kid" because I'm skeptical of a product that was already cancelled once being revived by a company I don't think delivers quality entertainment? What the fuck does that even have to do with platform elitism? And saying you enjoy FFXIII doesn't make you some kind of "deep" gamer. Why do people think championing games that aren't very well regarded makes them better than everyone else?

Referring to the Final Fantasy series "games that aren't very well regarded"

O.k. I get it now, will stop feeding you.

I'd give it a shot. Haven't tried a True Crime game before but I really enjoy the genre.

Sweet. I was looking forward to the game before it was cancelled.

@swomar said:

@President_Barackbar said:

@Styl3s said:

@swomar said:

@President_Barackbar said:

Oh yeah, True Crime AND Square Enix, two names I immediately associate with quality /eyeroll

I know that it's cool nowadays to shit on Square Enix, but their games are generally of high quality whether you're into them or not. Of course they've had a couple of flops, especially recently, but every publisher has some of these. And they're the exception not the rule.

Completely agree, really bites my ass that gamers are so goddamn jaded these days, for how many years no decades has square given us quality titles? so what if they released some shitty ones are companies not allowed to have some shitty games? this isn't blizzard, these companies actually release more than 1 game every 10 years so everything can't be perfect.

First EA was shitted on, then Activision now capcom now back to SE it's ridiculous, play your games and be happy you are able to play them you jaded whining little babies, be thankful you have the money/ability to play your games, be thankful the gaming industry survived when it was supposed to die.

God forbid one of you actually make it a day in your life enjoying a video game instead of coming to the internet to complain about games you don't even care about, i used to think PC "elitist" were bad but the console kids are just ridiculous

/rant

Now i am off to enjoy FF13, yeah i bought it and enjoyed it deal with it haters.

Dear oh dear, where do I start with this one? I will admit, I give fuckall about Final Fantasy, but Square doesn't make what I consider to be quality titles. Not only that, True Crime is CERTAINLY not a franchise that's had ANY kind of quality in the past. And you automatically say I'm some kind of "console kid" because I'm skeptical of a product that was already cancelled once being revived by a company I don't think delivers quality entertainment? What the fuck does that even have to do with platform elitism? And saying you enjoy FFXIII doesn't make you some kind of "deep" gamer. Why do people think championing games that aren't very well regarded makes them better than everyone else?

Referring to the Final Fantasy series "games that aren't very well regarded"

O.k. I get it now, will stop feeding you.

Name someting non Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest games thats been good attached to the Square Enix name the last few years. I wont accept Kingdom Hearts since that series is not good.

SE are a far cry from what they once were. And the only interresting games coming out of SE are former Eidos properties like Tomb Raider, Deus Ex and Hitman.

The problems that Square Enix faces are problems that have plagued japaneese game development for almost a decade

The fact is that Japaneese game development has fallen so far behind that the only good or interresting games coming out of Japan are the batshit crazy ones or games that are completly unique. That would be good if they weren't so few and far between. Japan can no longer fight on the same terms in the game industry. They are forced to go so far of the beaten path just to get noticed in the west that they end up not appealing to the avarage gamer and don't sell.

Since the japaneese games don't sell well in the west, they focuse on making games that appeal to the japaneese market. The means that they can't have big budgets becuase they can't hope to make a return and thats why the games don't appeal to the big budget centric western market.

Just looking at this and next years most antisipated games they are almost all from western developers. It's not fun to see that since I grew up playing japaneese games but now they are eather stale, boring, uninterresting or down right bad. Its been a long time since I played a japaneese developed game that I really enjoyed AND that sold well.

 "When we first saw and got our hands on the game we fell in love with it," 

 I must say, Square Enix have been invested in too many affairs in recent months :P.

wow guys, miracles really do happen!!

As cool as New York is we need an open world game of this nature taking place outside of America for once. Thank you Square Enix.

Yea really. GTA has done open world American city to death already. Can we get open world.... somewhere else now? I mean it won't change much but at least seeing a slightly different scenery is a nice change.

Well, it depends on what they paid for it, but it probably worked out considering that United Fronts said that they were virtually finished with the game. So this could be done some time soon.

So Kane & Lynch: Hong Kong?

Sounds like another SE open world flop...

SQUARE 
 
ARE YOU FUCKING STUPID 
 
ALL THESE SHIT INVESTMENTS 
 
FUCK

 "When we first saw and got our hands on the game we fell in love with it,"   I must say, Square Enix have been invested in too many affairs in recent months :P.

Square-Enix makes the weirdest decisions.

Thank God for this!! I was seriously looking forward the TC: Hong Kong after being super skeptical at first. After seeing more of the game and learning that a lot of the development team were made out for ex- Rockstar, Criterion and other talented people from studios i can't currently remember, i was super bummed it didn't get its chance. And it seems Activision were confident the game was going to be good, its just that they didn't beleve in its commercial success. At least now it has a chance. 

Great news for the development team. Now lets hope the game shapes up.

Flash forward to a year and a half later:

I wish similar fate for Shenmue 3.

This is still going to be so wonderfully awful, if it ever comes out.