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'Small Number' of Xbox 360s Have Borked Disc Drives [UPDATED]

Update makes some Xbox 360s unable to read retail discs. Woops, have a free Xbox 360!

Getting a free Xbox 360 S ain't that bad.
Getting a free Xbox 360 S ain't that bad.

UPDATE: This one just got a tad more confusing. Stay with me here!

Microsoft has not responded to my request for comment on today's reports about disc drives, but Eurogamer's gotten more. The issue has nothing to do with the upcoming firmware update but, as it turns out, a previous update.

"Additionally, this disc read error message is tied to a change in the disc reading algorithms in a recent software update and is not specific to older or newer versions of Xbox 360," the company said in a statement.

As such, if you haven't had an issue with your machine playing retail discs so far, you're out of luck when it comes to getting a brand-new Xbox.

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The spring update for Xbox Live is imminent, bringing an important security change to the way Xbox 360 machines read discs, freeing up a substantial amount of space to developers on each disc. The update breaks the ability for a "very small number" of Xbox 360s to read retail discs, however, prompting Microsoft to reach out to affected consumers, offering them a replacement Xbox 360 S.

== TEASER ==

Kotaku first broke the news, based on an email received by an Xbox Live user. You can imagine their surprise. Xbox Support's Twitter account then verified the email, based on other folks receiving similar emails, were true. Microsoft then released a statement to Eurogamer, elaborating on the issue itself.

"Following a recent update to our system software, we have become aware of an issue that is preventing a very small number of Xbox 360 owners from playing retail game discs," the company said. "This issue manifests itself a as a unique 'disc unreadable' or 'disc unsupported' error on the screen. We are also able to detect this issue over Xbox Live and are proactively reaching out to customers that may be impacted to replace their console."

I've contacted Microsoft separately for more information but have yet to hear back. Let me know if you've heard from Microsoft. My Xbox 360 is several years old, but I've heard nothing from them yet.

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wow i didn't hear about this. it's pretty sad that, that happened. i think that this generation is just the generation of broken systems. xbox 360, and ps3 are the systems that have trouble with broken systems.

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The small price to pay to catch modders, I guess.

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Is it something that can be detected through your serial number or other means? I believe my Xbox was having these errors, but it has since red-ringed so I can't check if it's still doing it.

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@H4xlike:You should have read up on it man. Don't just go opening things up like that without researching it first... :(
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This sucks.  I got the disc read error, xbox live support told me it was out of date, so I popped open my 360, voiding the warranty, to clean the laser in a last hope effort.  When that didn't work I just bought a new 360 S, and now they're going to give them for free.  What the hell.  How could I go through 3 xbox's in a 4 year span lol.

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Bork? So the Sweedish Chef will jump out of your disk drive?

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I just tried every 360 disk I had in hopes of getting rid of this 20gb 360 that sounds like a blender, too bad...

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Damn it! Mine didn't break.

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@Vodun said:
@LiquidPrince said:
Is borked a word?
As long as you keep using it, and people agree on its meaning, it will be.
I am in that weird situation where I'm sure that I invented the work "borked", because I used it well before I heard anyone else use it.
But I suspect I probably heard it on TV and subconsciously absorbed it into my vocabulary.
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Bell tolls for the last survivors of the RROD cull of the ancient X360s. A minute of silence for those so dearly departed, adorned red rings and wrapped in towel shrouds, is in order. :(

 

OR IS IT A CONSPIRACY TO REMOVE THE REST OF THE OLDER X360S FROM THE BASE ALTOGETHER??? AND WHAT DOES J ALLARD THINK ABOUT THIS???

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@xsheps: Why?
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@Vodun: You should take a class in American History.
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I'm glad they're helping out those affected by this but I won't get my hopes up that this applies to the 2 Xbox 360's I have that refuse to read discs of any kind, I'm still pretty salty about that. 

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@LiquidPrince said:
Is borked a word?
As long as you keep using it, and people agree on its meaning, it will be.
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@HarrySound said:

Clearing up some confusion

Clarification time! The console replacement plan that is the subject of some of today’s headlines is related to a previous update, NOT the system update that has been in public beta and will be deployed shortly. 

The new disc format that is part of the beta has been rigorously tested across all Xbox 360 models and there are no known compatibility issues.

Hope that clears a few things up.

I believe my xbox was affected, have you heard who I contact to start that process?
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I keep getting the sense that, if I opened up my 360, all I'd find is bailing twine and a hamster running on a very small wheel.

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Gotta say I'm actually very happy with what Microsoft are going to compensate on this one.

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@shodan2020: Ummm.... why? If you have this issue, MICROSOFT will be giving you a whole new system free of charge, apparently. If anything, that will be useless if you have the issue because your new console won't be covered by it.
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kinda hope mine will break so i can get a new one :P

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Any idea when the offending update was? And do we know if it's just newer games that it will have problems with or is it all games?

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@xsheps said:
@LiquidPrince: Yes, it is a reference to Robert Bork, whose nomination to the Supreme Court was blocked by the U.S. Senate.   
And now I know.
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@LiquidPrince: Yes, it is a reference to Robert Bork, whose nomination to the Supreme Court was blocked by the U.S. Senate.   
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They may have led with most hardware failures in the first few years, but at least Microsoft is usually willing to replace people systems for free.  You have to give them that at least.  Hopefully, they'll work out these glitches soon.

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Is borked a word?

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Oh shit I need this. My 360 randomly gives the disc read error, even on brand new games and games downloaded over XBL (which pisses me off to no end). It's still usable, but about ten shades of infuriating.

Microsoft, come find meeeee.

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I'd rather go a month without online play and a store than deal with a shit console that can't play games, or just RRoD.

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So PSN got hacked and still has password flaws, some Xbox 360s are getting borked.  Whom is behind all of this?!?!

NINTENDO!!!!!!!   Just in time for the project cafe E3 announcement!!

Jk Jk....

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Why is everything breaking???

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I thought the big benefit of consoles was that they always just work and you never had to worry about the patching and software/firmware revisions?  My how things have changed.

Pathetic Microsoft.  Updating a piece of consumer electronics should be infrequent, not mandatory, and should never cause a malfunction in a single shipped unit.  Amateur hour.

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I'm shocked that there are still people out there with systems old enough to not be compatible with this update. I've sent mine in for repairs (see replacement) for red ring on my main system at least 3 times and actually bought an elite later on down the line. Which also red ringed twice. The first time, I actually got a South American system back which wouldn't play US DVD. I didn't realize this until I got a call from MS telling be about the error though since I was also an early adopter of HD-DVD so I was playin them from that little doodad. Anyway, they offered to change it out immediately, but I told them I was fine, I'd just send it in once it broke again. We both had a laugh, then a few months later, I was sending my South American 360 back for RRoD.


Oh, and I bought an arcade system, and it red ringed the day of purchase. At least in that case, I could drive it back to gamestop and swap it that day rather than wait for shipping. All together, I must have had over 7 red ringed systems.

Funny thing is, my PS3 broke once and I had to pay some ridiculous amount to sony to get it fixed. I would rather send in my 360 7 times over a few years, than my PS3 once and have to pay for it. 

Steve
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One of my friends just told me his disk drive wasn't working, and he couldn't get his Forza fix. 360 S time for him!

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Thanks for letting everyone know! :D

I wouldnt have had a clue otherwise.

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I blame Sony, I don't know why but I bet it is their fault.

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Edited By HarrySound

Clearing up some confusion

Clarification time! The console replacement plan that is the subject of some of today’s headlines is related to a previous update, NOT the system update that has been in public beta and will be deployed shortly. 

The new disc format that is part of the beta has been rigorously tested across all Xbox 360 models and there are no known compatibility issues.

Hope that clears a few things up.

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@animateria said:
@paulunga said:

@GunslingerPanda said:

That should shut up the smug Xbots.
Of course using the term "Xbot" also immediately disqualifies you from any discussion that isn't just a shit-slinging contest.
What if you use them all at once to say how silly all of em are? Xbot, PSlut, PCunt, Ninten....  Erm... Ninten... Nintendumbass... I dunno, best I could come up with.
Nintendrone and Wiitard are the ones I've heard before.
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Glad I have that Best Buy warranty... :)

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@Contro said:

Major Nelson:


It's time to clarify things!  The plan to replace the console that is the subject of headlines today is related to a previous update and NOT update the system that was tested in public beta and will soon be deployed.

The new disc format that is part of the beta version has been rigorously tested in all models of Xbox 360 and there are no known compatibility issues.
I hope this clarifies things.
   
People who are scared about updating their console need to see this. 
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Oh, wow. This happened to my Elite for some random reason and I was wondering why. I've got 4 360's so I wasn't really too worried about it, but now I guess I can get another 360 S. 


MICROSOFT SURE IS A SOFTWARE COMPANY, RIGHT GUYS!? Ahhaaaaaa
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@paulunga said:

@GunslingerPanda said:

That should shut up the smug Xbots.
Of course using the term "Xbot" also immediately disqualifies you from any discussion that isn't just a shit-slinging contest.
What if you use them all at once to say how silly all of em are? Xbot, PSlut, PCunt, Ninten.... 
Erm... Ninten... Nintendumbass... I dunno, best I could come up with.
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Major Nelson:


It's time to clarify things!  The plan to replace the console that is the subject of headlines today is related to a previous update and NOT update the system that was tested in public beta and will soon be deployed.

The new disc format that is part of the beta version has been rigorously tested in all models of Xbox 360 and there are no known compatibility issues.
I hope this clarifies things.
   

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@GunslingerPanda said:
That should shut up the smug Xbots.
Of course using the term "Xbot" also immediately disqualifies you from any discussion that isn't just a shit-slinging contest.
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OH GOD THE END OF THE WORLD IS INDEED COMING. FIRST PSN, THEN DEUS EX 3 WEBSITE, NOW THIS.

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That should shut up the smug Xbots.

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@Aishan said:
@Kazona said:
@Aishan said:
The thing I love most about this is that it's one of the few things that people can legitimately say "Wow, I hope my console bricks."
Wow I hope my console bricks!
You forgot the comma. Slacker. And I didn't use an exclamation mark.

Please try harder next time.
I'm sorry! I'll do better this time!

Ahum...

Wow, I hope my console brikcs.
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I got "disk read error" on my xbox, and took it in to get fixed the other day! I could have gotten a new one if I waited?!  DAMN!!!!!
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@umdesch4 said:
More details would sure be nice. Is it only certain retail discs, and/or is there some way to identify if you have an affected xbox? 99% of my xbox's use these days is one or two particular discs, and lots of live arcade downloads, so if those couple of discs don't show the problem, will I have to start randomly loading up all my other games to find out if there's an issue?
From what it says I think its your 360 wouldn't play any disc based game, so you'd know by now.
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@Branthog said:

Right. This is a "new" issue. Whatever.My 360 had this problem after about 100 hours of use, in 2006 or 2007 and it was CLEAR that the problem was a malfunctioning optical drive. Absolutely no doubt about it. When I reported it to Microsoft, they said it wasn't any sort of a known issue and wasn't going to be covered, so I basically had to buy a new box (yeah, I know there maybe could have been a way to replace it myself, but I'm not going to fuck with the guts of a console and risk an account ban).So four or five years later, they finally acknowledge it? Fuck them.

 The problem here doesn't sound like a malfunctioning optical drive.  This is a change to how information is read from the discs that, for some reason, causes some 360's to not recognize the discs as 360 discs(like putting a PS3 game in your Xbox).  From what you said about what happened to you it sounds like your optical drive just broke and the Xbox couldn't read the discs at all.

I'm not trying to comment on whether or not they should or shouldn't have replaced your Xbox. I'm just saying that your problem and the problem this article is about don't appear to be the same thing.
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http://majornelson.com/2011/05/18/clearing-up-some-confusion/

 
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@Phoenix87 said:
Well, I'm on my 3rd Xbox 360 right now, so needless to say, this doesn't surprise me, but seriously, I think I'm done buying Microsoft consoles.
You don't have to buy anything. If it breaks you get a new one for free.