Sony GDC: More on Move

" And anyone who seriously believes this is going to "sell gangbusters" is deluding themselves."

" Would've been better if it were called Oscar Mic. "

3-D is to cinema what Motion Controls are to video games. 

" And anyone who seriously believes this is going to "sell gangbusters" is deluding themselves.
 
This has a bunch of shit going wrong for it:
 
1) One HUNDRED dollars.
2) Totally optional. Third parties will drop this thing like it's hot once their obligatory "okay Sony fine we'll make ONE GAME with motion control for you" contract is up. Remember the Sixaxis? Remember how you threw grenades in Uncharted 1? Remember how fast THAT shit got dropped?
3) A sports compilation and a party game? Is that what you've got? Why would anyone buy a PS3 and this motion controller nonsense with the camera and the controllers and the games when they could just buy a Wii for a hundred and fifty dollars less and get the exact same experience?
4) One HUNDRED dollars.  "It's the Wii but more expensive and more complicated" is not going to sell to ANYONE. "

Wow. Defend harder, PS3 fanboys. Defend harder. The Playstation Nation needs you.

" @Olivaw said:

" And anyone who seriously believes this is going to "sell gangbusters" is deluding themselves."

Naw, that'd be you. This is actually a brilliant move on Sony's part.  You can either pay 200 bucks for a Wii, or you can pay 400 bucks for a PS3 slim, a game, Move, and the PS Eye. As well as something that also plays adult games, can stream HD Netflix movies, can play Blurays, etc. Anyone that knows anything about technology is going to know that this is way more bang for their buck. And like I mentioned, there are a ton of families out there that won't buy a PS3 because they feel like it's a purely "adult" platform. This is going to get rid of that stigma completely. With one purchase, they will have something for everyone. Movies for everyone, mature games for the dad, silly games for the kids, family games to give everyone something to do together...  This is going to sell well. There is no doubt. Once it comes out, and does end up doing terrific. I want you to remember my name, and picture me saying "I told you so."  =) "

Peter Dille looks like that guy in the Denny's commercials.

" All of this 'ripping off of the wii'  
 
"First of all- eyetoy says hi "
 

Also if you think $100 is expensive I guarantee Natal will cost just as much if not substantially more. "

" Wow. Defend harder, PS3 fanboys. Defend harder. The Playstation Nation needs you. "

Main controller shoulda had a stick on it.  With one of those in each hand you could actually implement something different and interesting.
 
"Gladiator Duel" but with ~8 people running around, with a ton of different weapons and customized persistent characters would be totally awesome.  Two people locked in place slugging it out is decidedly unawesome.

" The Sony Defense force sounds alot like the Wii Defense force in this thread, and it's probably what the Natal Defense force are going to sound like when that comes out.  These things will not find mainstream success, they will be moderately sucessfull add-ons at best. "

"HA! HD Corn Flakes! That's great!  I go back and forth on the matter. I liked the demo that was shown at last year's E3 with the sword and shield. I like the responsiveness of it if the game's tailor made to support the 1:1 movement. Seems like it'll be much better than the Wii's motion controls. I guess it all comes down to the games released for it for me. Time will tell. " 
 

" @Olivaw said:

" And anyone who seriously believes this is going to "sell gangbusters" is deluding themselves."

Naw, that'd be you. This is actually a brilliant move on Sony's part.  You can either pay 200 bucks for a Wii, or you can pay 400 bucks for a PS3 slim, a game, Move, and the PS Eye. As well as something that also plays adult games, can stream HD Netflix movies, can play Blurays, etc. Anyone that knows anything about technology is going to know that this is way more bang for their buck. And like I mentioned, there are a ton of families out there that won't buy a PS3 because they feel like it's a purely "adult" platform. This is going to get rid of that stigma completely. With one purchase, they will have something for everyone. Movies for everyone, mature games for the dad, silly games for the kids, family games to give everyone something to do together...  This is going to sell well. There is no doubt. Once it comes out, and does end up doing terrific. I want you to remember my name, and picture me saying "I told you so."  =) "

" @Ragdrazi said:

" Wow. Defend harder, PS3 fanboys. Defend harder. The Playstation Nation needs you. "

Well what do you expect when people are bashing this for no reason? It's like me bashing the 360 just because of Natal. The damn thing is optional, it doesn't effect me any. So it would be completely absurd for me to condemn the entire system because of some peripheral it has.  This might be a radical thought, but sometimes something does need defending, and the person defending it isn't always necessarily biased in some way. Also, getting on a forum and calling other people "fanboys" has become so cliche, it's really sad and pathetic at this point. It's gotten to where a person can't even show up and casually say "Yeah, I enjoy the PS3" or "I enjoy the 360" without someone immediately responding with "DIE YOU STINKING FANBOY!!!111!11111" Grow up guys. Grow up. "

uh, interesting I guess. Not for me though.

" @Milkman: True. But the blatant ripping off of the Wii really made me feel uneasy. "

"And when this comes out, and no one buys it but you... "

"The market doesn't want it."

"It's not going to appeal to casual gamers, they already have the Wii. "

This comment section gets more like gamespot each day.

This...makes me not want to buy a PS3.

" @WinterSnowblind said:

"It's not going to appeal to casual gamers, they already have the Wii. "

To be honest, you haters and doomsayers sound like the exact people Jeff is always calling out. Move might not be some revolutionary thing that's going to blow everybody's mind, and sell 500 million units, but it's also not saying that isn't going to "appeal to casual gamers." It's not something that's going to flop. It's not even something that won't make a decent amount of money for Sony. As Jeff always says "The truth is somewhere in the middle." And that's the only point I'm trying to make. 
I'm tired of all you haters that act like you know that it's going to completely fail. Like you have some inside scoop into the future. That's why I told you to stow it. This will do just fine. Sony will support it for many years into the future. It will have some neat games come out on it. Most of it probably won't appeal to core gamers like you and I, but there will still be some fun to be had with it. It will make Sony a decent amount of money. It will do just fine!  All this "doom and gloom" from you people sounds like 360 loyalists who are threatened by this, and want to bash it as much as possible in order to try and sabotage it. "

You know what's REALLY awesome? How some of those incredibly derivative games they demoed required two motion controllers!
 
So you'll need to buy a starter pack AND an additional controller just to play those games!
 
Truly, this is the best possible way to get your game out there - require TWO controllers.

....I just want motion controls to die already.

Looks alright. None of the launch games really interest me, but I can see some awesome games coming out for it if develepers use it too its full potential.

" I specifically said that the thing will likely sell alright."

" This...makes me not want to buy a PS3. "

" @Ragdrazi said:

"The market doesn't want it."

Lol, and how would you know? Are you a high paid market analyst? Nope, you sure aren't! Honestly, you haters are nothing more then delusional prats. Maybe I sound like a fanboy defending Move, but you guys sound as much like 360 fanboys trying to attack something that you consider a threat. The cliche "fanboy" accusations go both ways. "  

"mass market  for the ps movw= epic fail why siple 1-- is the same then the wii but much more expensive and and grafix dont matter how do i know i always try my brother to get on xbox360 over wii. 2-- natal  is really much diferent and way cheaper in terms of$$ 69 or and you have multyplayer  al rady vs howmany controlers with camera/nunchuks ok so ps3 299 + starter kit $99 plus mutyplayer 3xmore of nunchuks and dildmove=599 plus tax. and same experince as the wii 3--conpetition is really better (natal) xbox360 $199 with natal $269 and new  ways of playing and no need for extra contrallers wich is much more casual appeling  "

" You know what's REALLY awesome? How some of those incredibly derivative games they demoed required two motion controllers!  So you'll need to buy a starter pack AND an additional controller just to play those games!  Truly, this is the best possible way to get your game out there - require TWO controllers. "

@Rayfield said:

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Sony is FINALLY Oscar Mike.

" This comment section gets more like gamespot each day. "

Give it a break guys.
 
It's like the Wii HD, that can only be good if you're into the Wii. Besides, that Wii Sports rip-off seemed really fun, more fun than the real deal. Also, if they use move™ in LBP for level editing, that will be an amazing addition.

The only downside I see with fighting games is not being able to kick.  I'm sure MS will exploit that the entire body is not being used and with Natal is it. That is unless Sony has something up it's sleeve to track leg and feet movements which they have not revealed.    

"It's like the Wii HD..."

I was really impressed with the Socom 4 demo actually, the guy was calm, not flinging his arms everywhere and the kit was responding well, i still like my controller though.

Looks kind of cool to me. 
HD Games + Wii Style Games + Blue Ray = PS3, if it is marketed correctly and gets some solid releases can't see how this is a bad thing.

 
A lot of people are talking here as if everyone who ever wanted a Wii has already bought one, though I think the Wii is still the best selling console so Playstation wanting in on that action makes sense. 
 
Time will tell I guess.

" @Olivaw said:

" You know what's REALLY awesome? How some of those incredibly derivative games they demoed required two motion controllers!  So you'll need to buy a starter pack AND an additional controller just to play those games!  Truly, this is the best possible way to get your game out there - require TWO controllers. "

So? Most people bought a second Wii nunchuck, and remote. Which together ran like 60 bucks? Plus tax? Again, you people are making mountains out of mole hills. All in an attempt to bash something because..? I don't even know why. It's not something you have to buy. It's an extra, optional thing. You can pretend Playstation Move doesn't even exist if you want to. The only reason I can come up with is, as I said before, you are a 360 loyalists trying to bash something you feel threatened by in order to sabotage it before it even comes out.  Honestly, all you haters sound more pathetic and desperate then the people that are defending Move. Just FYI... "