Sony GDC: More on Move

" @Renegade said:

" @Hitchenson said:

" SOCOM looked odd with motion sensor controls. "

Looked like playing a shooter on the...um...what's it called? That Nintendo console...oh right the Wii!   Motion controls have been done, why is Sony trying to make it seem like it's a new thing? This is just motion plus on another console. "

no it isn't though.  i mean yeah its the same idea, but they have delivered something far more capable than even motion plus.  couple that with ps3 power and the door opens to far more ideas.  "

" @Hitchenson said:

" SOCOM looked odd with motion sensor controls. "

Looked like playing a shooter on the...um...what's it called? That Nintendo console...oh right the Wii!   Motion controls have been done, why is Sony trying to make it seem like it's a new thing? This is just motion plus on another console. "

" Unlike the Wii, this is all completely optional. Everyone needs to stop acting like Sony pissed in their HD Corn Flakes. "
 
but who wants this option?

I WANNA BE ABLE TO KICK IN MOTION FIGHTER!!!!

Very underwhelming.  Then again, it is motion controls.

It's a cycle:
- Nintendo puts Analog in its n64 Controller, Sony followed a short while after with 2 Analogs in its PS Controller, Dual Analog
- NIntendo adds Rumble to its Controller with the Rumble Pack, Sony added 2 rumbles in its controller and called it the Dual Shock
- Nintendo puts Mii in the Wii, Sony came up with Home after
- Nintendo bring the Motion Controller, Sony came up with the same stuff 3-4 years after (at least Microsoft does something a little bit different with Natal)
 It will be similar to the Wii, with better graphics and optional.

Socom with motion controls?

The Wii is popular.  A competitor tries to cash in on the concept. 
 
Sounds like Business 101 to me.

Wow these comments make me consider to stop reading the forums. This site sadly seems to be turning into site full of fanboys screaming at each other, just like gamefaqs. But that is the case for almost all video game communities. If you guys want people to take video games seriously, you have to stop being the sheep you are and grow up. Because of all the sites I read video game sites are always the worst.

" @Cristoflanga said:

" This is kind of sad. I trusted PS3 as non-corruptible source of real games. "

I thought PS3 was more a non-corruptible source of interactive movies and cutscene compilations, honestly. Really, how much of Metal Gear Solid 4 is actually spent playing, compared to watching cutscenes? "

Lot of heated debate going on here... I'm just gonna wade into the middle... there we go
 
 Sony is ape-ing the Wii.
If this stuff was original then it would be great. But instead all we are getting is a HD Wii.
And if the price is as estimated the full pack will retail for £350.
Is a casual gamer really gonna put down an addtional £350 after already buying a Wii and four controllers, god knows how many sports packs etc.
The only way this thing will actually sell is if it is substantially better than the Wii. Not just a little. Not just HD.
And 1:1 control? Dont make me laugh. No game can ever support 1:1 control.
Just look at the Wii Motion-Plus. It isnt quite 1:1 and yet people complained it made golf too accurate. How would 1:1 control help this? If I wanted to suck at golf I'd go to the driving range!
 
So I'm sorry Sony but unless you pull some really interesting software out of your bag this thing aint gonna fly

" Looks like the (new) current generation war is finally going to start. "

Wii 2.0

no thanks, I got a wii already

Hope you're ready for lots & lots of shovelware titles; the ports from Wii to PS3 are just beginning, thanks to the PS Move itself being an exact copy off of the Wii-mote (sorry if posted before).
 
 http://kotaku.com/5490658/playstation-move-gets-its-first-wii-port
 

Yeah, I dont get the hate for this thing. It looks like simply a more modern implementation of the wii remote, with some cool additions (like camera). I'd love to try playing a real current gen FPS with motion controls. There's just too much holding the Wii back for it to be a compelling alternative for Motion control fans at this point in the technology cycle. 
 
Come on, imagine how much more awesome heavy rain could have been with this thing.

" This is kind of sad. I trusted PS3 as non-corruptible source of real games. "

They only needed to do 1 simple thing, LIGHTSABER!!!!!!
 
I'm not impressed and I'm scared that my favorit hobby will turn into a fad.  I like the idea of natal, not for games but beeing able to move my interface. But that's as far as I go, I like beeing able to totaly kick ass after a long day and not haveing to stop because my arms are tired.

Its a shame you all think this is stupid. It looks better than Natal because you actually have something in your hand with buttons on it. Waving your hands about in front of the TV is not a user friendly input method. Even though it is effectively just a Wii remote it does have the advantage of the camera, and being on an HD system. I don't see it as being a massive success but I think it has a little more going for it than Natal. Natal is cool technology but is it really better than holding a controller?

Well this looks like a shitty gimmick.

Sonys Move lacks a second analogstick, so welcome another few years of shitty camera controls. I would have thought they had learned that lesson by now from the failures of the PSP and Wii.

Meh, fuckin wii ripoff

Ripping off the Wii so blatently just doesn't make any sense, surely Sony doesn't think that they'll be able to cut into Nintendo's market, do they? Microsoft tried to cut into Apple's iPod market with the Zune and we see how that turned out. The Wii doesn't continue to sell like it does because of the controls, I mean sure, that's what got it going, but now it's the Nintendo Wii name that keeps the sales figures up. If anyone thinks that all the casual gamers that bought Wii's are gonna turn around and drop $3-400 on a PS3 for motion controls then they are crazy.

So everyone makes fun of Nintendo then Sony once again copies one of Nintendo's ideas. Wow how original sony! Man get a new business plan.

Damn you Nintendo!

These comments are starting to remind me of when Microsoft announced the Avatar support in their New Xbox Experience; "A gaming company is taking a successful idea and creating their own adaption of it? OH MY GOD WHAT A GIANT RIPOFF THEY HAVE NO SHAME". Hahahaha...guess what happened when MS did that, guys? They completely and seamlessly integrated the Avatar system into their IP, which has been a huge success and, like everyone is saying, is still completely optional. 
 
I've always found that the base concept of the Wii has been a great one, but too much focus was taken away from the strength of the hardware to realize it, and it always felt like I was playing last-gen games, but with a new control system. I believe that this will finally bring both elements together as they always should have been. Like another commenter said, provide a great middle-ground between markets to appeal to everybody, casual and dedicated markets included. Now for god's sakes, stop whining about this; you can completely ignore it and play your own games while some of us actually enjoy this new control system.

As much is I know this is supposed to cater to the Wii crowd, i don´t really think they´re in the same market, yeah the ps3 may be more of a complete package but the fact that the Wii is considerable cheaper really separates the different tastes. 
  
Perosnally, I dont think ill be buying this because its $100 for the starter kit which doesn´t include the sub controller, besides I really couldn´t care less for motion controllers.

" I think Sony has jumped the shark. They are just shamelessly ripping off Nintendo... Pathetic. "

Anyone know how these things are powered?  I'm wondering if each has a rechargeable battery in them like the Dual Shock 3 or if they require alkalines. 

" I'm so tired of motion controls. For the love of god, make it stop. "

I think this stuff looks neat.  People need to stop complaining about motion controllers, because, well, we only have had one console have a motion controller so far.  We will see what happens, but why not let the other give it a shot with better technology.  For all we know, it could be awesome! 
 
That is the most positive thing I have said about Sony in years.

WTF?! So the main one doesn't have a thumbstick? Well looks like this is not the implementation of motion controls that gamers like us have been waiting for.
 
  @Renegade said:

" I'm so tired of motion controls. For the love of god, make it stop. "

I think Sony has jumped the shark. They are just shamelessly ripping off Nintendo... Pathetic.

I'm looking forward to it. Sony is actually taking motion control seriously, unlike Nintendo who treats it as a gimmick. You guys need to be a little more optimistic and open minded, being on the internet too long can make you cynical.

how am i going to strangle myself with this?????

I gotta be honest....The reason I don't use my Wii as much as the other systems has nothing to do with its diminutive technical specs. It's because it's just not as fun to come home after a long day, kick my feet up and then wave my arms around for two hours just to play a game. Holding a controller is comfortable, I can sit back, have a drink, smoke - whatever ...
 
This is more of the same. It's no better because it's a better looking system, even if I use it more. I'll stick to my conventional controllers for awhile

@liquidsol said:

" @mazik765 said:

" Does anyone actually WANT motion control? It kind of seems like these companies are doing this just because they can. I have never once sat down after a long day of work, turned on my console and though 'I wish I had to stand up and move during this game' "

Exactly. "

Kids and Chicks.  My PS3 is mine, I'm the only one that plays it for the main reason of  'It's not family friendly" but our Wii is used when kids or my fiance wants to game.  
I don't even like playing my PS3 after work let alone motion controls, the vast majority of people on this board aren't the targeted demographic.

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The only thing that I am looking forward to with motion controls on PS3 , is the possibility of a M rated next gen HD motion game. I hate motion controls as much as anyone but if they can do this for me it may change my mind, I doubt it though. I just hope they do something besides some lame ass wii game imitations. .