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That Latest Fallout: New Vegas Patch for Xbox 360? Yeah, Don't Install It

Reports of saves translating into frequent game crashes have Bethesda regrouping.


 An artist's depiction of the latest patch.
 An artist's depiction of the latest patch.
Hold onto your butts, Vault Dwellers. 

Even though Xbox Live is demanding you update your copy of Fallout: New Vegas with the latest patch, publisher Bethesda Softworks is separately demanding you decline the update. 

What? Exactly.

Players have reported repeated crashes on Xbox 360 upon loading game saves, after the update. Bethesda looked into it and found plenty of validity to the claims...

"Regarding the Xbox 360 update, we’ve discovered a solution to the issue that’s causing problems with game saves," said the company on its blog. "We’ll be hosting a replacement update on Xbox LIVE as soon as humanly possible. If you haven’t grabbed the New Vegas update on 360 today, we recommend you decline the update until the new one is live. We’ll be sure to let you know when it’s up."

That's right: a patch for a patch! Such is the age of games we live in, apparently, though one has to wonder how a botched patch survived both development and certification without anyone catching this bad boy.

I love me some Fallout, but this? This isn't right.    
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I installed the patch today, I haven't been online in a few days because i'm decorating my house and had everything unplugged, so i wasn't up to date with everything. I thought i'd have ago on Vegas, got the update, kept crashing with my save about 2 hours from the end game and 50 hours in. I was about to delete my saves, but i thought i'd check GiantBomb and thankfully found this thread. On my previous saves i found that i had no HUD, game saves worked but crashed on ENTRY/ EXIT doors or fast travel, no damage counter and stats drained.


Sort it out bethesda.
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Edited By Claude

I just bought the game about two weeks ago. And like a dumbass, I downloaded that bad patch. Things started to go wrong.

After downloading the patch that fixed the patch, the game became worse. Graphical artifacts started showing up. A rad scorpion looked like an egg all rolled up on itself with pretty colors. When crouching, the textures on my gun would appear on the top of my screen and eventually cover the whole screen.

I tried to take the game back, but I bought it new so no go. The dude at the store gave me another copy just in case and at least it had the preorder stuff included.

I went home, deleted everything Fallout: New Vegas, cleared the cache, reinstalled the game, downloaded the latest patch and started from scratch. So far so good, I like the game, hope I can continue to play it this time. Fingers crossed.

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Edited By Jack_Frost

As much as I adore Fallout, I've had it with this game.

I bought it pre-order and, after having completed everything in the wasteland before entering The Strip, I ran into a game-breaking glitch. If you know the game, DO NOT COMPLETE VAULT 11 BEFORE HEADING INTO THE STRIP! The robots in Vault 11 are faction linked to the ones that guard the Lucky 38 and if you attacked and made hostile the ones in Vault 11, the ones in front of and inside the Lucky 38 will be hostile to you. Basically this means, no Mr. House quest lines for you - at all.

When they had the first patch in December, as far as I know, they did not fix this. If I want to complete the game, I must start it over at the beginning.

Consequently, I have been unwilling to do that and now I'm glad I didn't with this new patch bullshit.

A friend of mine who's never played Fallout picked the game up because it is now $20 brand new (gee, I wonder why?) and I told him to take it back and spend the extra $20 to get the Fallout 3 GOTY edition.

So far, no complaints.

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Ugh. I wish that Bethesda hadn't given Obsidian Entertainment a shot at the Fallout franchise. I know that Obsidian has a lot of veterans who worked on previous Fallout games, and I don't mean to be a jerk about this, but I have never played an Obsidian game that wasn't a buggy piece of crud.

 

I'm not exagerating either. Knights of the Old Republic 2 had a mediocre storyline, plotholes, framerate issues, and loading bugs that once cost me three hours of my obsessive compulsive life. There were five or so cutscenes in a row, each one with a loading screen before it, and each loading screen had at least a 50% chance of freezing my game. Looking back on it, I don't know why I didn't give up after the first hour. :-D

 

 

Neverwinter Nights 2? Memory leaks, framerates problems, terrible pathfinding, a puritanical viewpoint on sexuality and clothing that made belly dancers dress as if hell had frozen over, and so on. I never even bothered to buy the expansions. I honestly couldn't see the point.

 

I wish I could say that they did better with their own intellectual properties, but Alpha Protocol was a hopeless joke of a game. Honestly, how did they get the go-ahead to make Fallout: New Vegas? I've put off buying the game until Bethesda fixes most of the bugs for Obsidian, and I'm starting to think that such a thing is never going to happen. There are just too many to cope with, and I don't think there is enough interest left in the product for Bethesda to waste much more time on it.

 

So yeah, ugh. I actually felt really annoyed when I heard that Obsidian had the license to A Wheel of Time. The moment I saw that news update, I immediately gave up on the franchise's video game future. Obsidian's track record is just too consistently awful for me to have any hope. 

 

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Well.. as long as they fix it.. Its not like they poisoned water supply for orphan kids...

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@Marlowefire said:
" I still haven't played this game due to all the game freezing glitches I've heard about. Guess I'll never play it. Sigh. "
Honestly, I've been playing it for a couple of months, and it's not that big of a deal. You'll occasionally have to reboot, but if you save as often as you're supposed to, the positives far outweigh the negatives. If it were almost any other game, I'd agree with your desire to skip it, but Fallout 3 and New Vegas are both worth the occasional headache. In my opinion, it's not worth depriving yourself of a great game, just to avoid occasional lock-ups.
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I still haven't played this game due to all the game freezing glitches I've heard about. Guess I'll never play it. Sigh.

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All I have to say to this is HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

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@FireBurger said:
" @Video_Game_King
Come on. This was on the forums for some time. It seems a bit off when you see news on the forums before you see it from journalists.
A regular user can notice the problem and post a topic within 2 minutes. A journalist has to research the problem, make a couple calls and then write a full article. Not to mention, Patrick has clearly been busy writing a lot of other stories as well. Jesus, people need to stop complaining about the news on this site. "
Here here!
But on the Fallout tip, Bros at Obsidian need to check that code a bit closer next time.Or blame the intern, cause you know there was an intern involved at some point.
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This game is so full of jank even after all this time.

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@Alphazero said:
" Gamebryo Engine. Gamebryo Engine never changes. "

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Edited By fox01313

Just tried it out a little earlier, there is a new patch. So far the only difference is I'm not getting the DLC error text. Rest of the game seems the same with the troublesome hard freeze especially when going to buy things from gun runners, apparently something that's there isn't agreeable with my save game on one character. Oh well as I was there to just collect the guns I didn't find in the wild.

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Edited By Shimastu

seriously no reason to worry. I mean it was actually 2 days long. go outside! I mean I didn't realize it till I had a 8mb update lol

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I would think a nice little call to Microsoft from Bethesda would just get it deleted of Live's servers, but I guess Microsoft doesn't have a special 1-800 # for developers to reach them in emergencies like this!!

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Edited By JQuizzle

I love Fallout but these games have been nothing but a mess! I agree how can games/updates even get released! 

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Edited By rethla

Why do people keep expecting stuff from bethesda will work? Ofc the game is broken, ofc the patch is broken and breaks the game even more.

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Edited By drakesfortune

nvm, glad to hear they fixed it.  Here goes.  I'm crossing my fingers...

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Edited By drakesfortune

What I don't get is why the patch is still live.  I just started the game, and they are STILL pushing the patch to people.  That's just messed up.

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@phish09 said:
" I don't get how it can make it any buggier than it already was.  I had the game completely crash on me about 40 hours into the game, and I got to this point where I was always incumbered, no matter how few items I was holding.  Some mission markers just constantly stayed on the screen despite the fact that the missions were done.   I just don't get why they thought that product was ready to ship when it did.  Someone done fucked up and ruined Fallout for me with that game and I'd be really hesitant to ever buy another Obsidian product again...though I guess that's not really going to be an issue anymore. "
You realize this was in no possible way Obsidians fault? It was Microsofts fault. The bugs that New Vegas had were also in Fallout 3, and have since been patched out in both games.
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The patch for the patch is now live in EU, i'm not sure about NA or the rest. If you have downloaded the bugged title update then i highly suggest that you delete it (In the Fallout: New Vegas folder - 8mb) and then clear the game cache afterwards, just in case.

 

I had none game crashes with the new (bugged) patch, 15 hours in, but when they released the fixed one i got two in couple of hours. I'm not sure if this is related to that i did not delete the bugged one first, since i assumed it should overwrite the TU #3 in the game folder. So now i've deleted the patch again and cleared the game cache and redownloaded the TU #4, hoping that it wont freeze more, or not that often.

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I don't get how it can make it any buggier than it already was.  I had the game completely crash on me about 40 hours into the game, and I got to this point where I was always incumbered, no matter how few items I was holding.  Some mission markers just constantly stayed on the screen despite the fact that the missions were done.   I just don't get why they thought that product was ready to ship when it did.  Someone done fucked up and ruined Fallout for me with that game and I'd be really hesitant to ever buy another Obsidian product again...though I guess that's not really going to be an issue anymore.

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@drakesfortune: They fixed it i believe, install all the patches and the patches of patches you want
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They already fixed this so everyone can shut the fuck up.

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Edited By sins_of_mosin

I've still not played this game because of the issues it still has.  This sure helps me keep it out of the console for a bit longer.

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Edited By drakesfortune

Damn, glad I read this.  I literally was about to go boot up new vegas right now to play, and I would have certainly installed it.  Yikes!

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@FireBurger:

Again, it seems a bit off when you see the news on the forum first, and not on the news part of the site. Besides, given that the forum post probably linked to another journalist, it feels weird that this wouldn't be on the front page first.
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@Video_Game_King
Come on. This was on the forums for some time. It seems a bit off when you see news on the forums before you see it from journalists.
A regular user can notice the problem and post a topic within 2 minutes. A journalist has to research the problem, make a couple calls and then write a full article. Not to mention, Patrick has clearly been busy writing a lot of other stories as well.

Jesus, people need to stop complaining about the news on this site.
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@Zaxex said:
" @TheChaos said:
" @Alphazero said:
" Gamebryo Engine. Gamebryo Engine never changes. "
"
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The patch for the patch is now patched on live.


Patch.
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Shit happens

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Edited By ItBeStefYo

Same exact thing happened recently with Team Fortress 2 I really dont know how these things get through testing

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@Terranova said:
" @Ghostiet said:
" @xombi242 said:
" Wow! How did that get through cert? "
Obsidian does that all the time. "
Obsidion doesn't certifiy the updates / patches they are a developer, it gets sent off to Microsoft if it's for the 360 or Sony for PS3 they are the ones that certify them or not. "

Yes, I know. I just couldn't stop myself from taking a bite at them.
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@Ghostiet said:
" @xombi242 said:
" Wow! How did that get through cert? "
Obsidian does that all the time. "
Obsidion doesn't certifiy the updates / patches they are a developer, it gets sent off to Microsoft if it's for the 360 or Sony for PS3 they are the ones that certify them or not.
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Fallout series thi sgen has been nothing but a buggy mess of a series.

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@xombi242 said:
" Wow! How did that get through cert? "
Obsidian does that all the time.
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Wow! How did that get through cert?

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@Godzilla_Sushi said:
" I don't even know what the certification is for a business anymore. How corporate/qualified are the employees to review that stuff. Do they report to anyone? Does anyone there care about video games? What about the Libyans, won't someone think of the Libyans?! "
I'm a QA tester and i've asking myself the same thing, in the last 3 years especially quality control over at M$ and Sony really went down the drain, they just want the games out there making money as fast as possible.

I've seen game leave our office full of crashes with us banging our heads on the wall telling the publisher there is no way this will go through certification and what do you know, the game passes first try with no major issues flagged...
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I don't even know what the certification is for a business anymore. How corporate/qualified are the employees to review that stuff. Do they report to anyone? Does anyone there care about video games? What about the Libyans, won't someone think of the Libyans?!

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Seriously. Seriously.


Stop blaming the engine and fix your damned game without breaking it more, kthx.
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@TheChaos said:
" @Alphazero said:
" Gamebryo Engine. Gamebryo Engine never changes. "
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People keep telling me that the reason we need to keep the current generation of consoles going for another five years is because we've finally gotten to the point where we know the platform enough that we can make great games without the problems of our original titles. . . But I just don't see it. They may be doing more, in the sense that they're shoving more money-making bullshit DLC down our throats. Just not actually making better products and better experiences (and don't get most people started on Fallout 3 or Fallout: New Vegas on the PC, which seems to both still be a TERRIBLE failure on the PC according to the Steam forums.)

Since I  have been a PC gamer my entire life, I'm not sure if this is the way it has always been. Do the last few years of a console cycle always find themselves filled with half-assedness? Or is this unique?

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I didn't have any start up issues, but sometimes when I try and open up the Pip-Boy the screen just goes blurry and I can't see anything and then I exit out of it and everything is fine and then I try again and it works.

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I would expect nothing less (or more I guess) from Obsidian... Sigh...

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I does bring into question the usefulness of Microsoft certification, especially when they miss something like this on a closed platform like the 360.

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@Alphazero said:
" Gamebryo Engine. Gamebryo Engine never changes. "
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Zero Quality Assurance. That seems to be the root of all this game's problems.

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Not a problem for me, been done with this game for awhile.

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Edited By Claude

I had already installed the new patch, but I just bought the game earlier this week. Once I started the game with the new patch it said DLC not available and some content can not be used or some shit like that. I didn't even have the DLC. But now I see graphic problems like tearing and stuff. Maybe I can take the game back and tell them it is broken.

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As long as the PC version is fine.

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@TorMasturba:
I'd love to if I could, but it has too many bugs, save file issues, etc.  The patch I was hoping would fix the issues Bethesda is telling me not to download.