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The Man Behind Your Next Favorite PlayStation Game

As the industry twists, turns and changes, Shuhei Yoshida is tasked with envisioning the future of Sony and video games.

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Yoshida comes across as all formal in this picture, but he's down-to-earth in person.
Yoshida comes across as all formal in this picture, but he's down-to-earth in person.

It’s easy to like Shuhei Yoshida, the head of Sony Computer Entertainment Worldwide Studios, the position last held by another charismatic individual, Phil Harrison, who's now with Microsoft.

Yoshida is thoughtful, contemplative, surprisingly funny, and while he’s quick to defend and explain his company’s decisions, he comes across as an executive well aware of Sony’s past mistakes and keeping track of what’s happening in the world around him.

I’ve already filed stories based on my time with Yoshida at E3 (the lack of Vita games and 3D at the press conference, and whether The Last Guardian is coming out), encompassing only a few moments of our wide-ranging 30-minute conversation. I spoke with Yoshida just hours after Nintendo’s press conferences wrapped, an event largely seen as a swing and a miss for the company.

“To me, they [Nintendo] are continuing their very family friendly approach with [a] games for everyone style,” said Yoshida. “I see them, this time, more serious about a mature games or high-definition kinds of games, as well as network services. So it’s interesting how they will balance what they’ve been doing with something new for them that they seem to be trying to do this time.”

Not exactly a endorsement, but what do you expect from the competition?

Sony and Microsoft’s time to shine with glitzy new pieces of hardware seems destined for next year, while E3 2012 was focused on what could be the last major blitz of PlayStation 3 software, PlayStation Network, and the recently launched PS Vita. Yoshida already apologized for the lack of Vita software at the press conference, though had I already been to Sony’s booth, I would have asked him about the surprising absence of first-party games there, too.

Sony has an impressive stable of first-party developers, but many may be committed to early Orbis development, and unlike the past, Sony has not been able to count on third-parties to pick up the slack.

Yoshida admitted it’s been tougher to attract third-parties to Vita. There’s Facebook, iOS and other areas companies are committing resources to.

“It’s understandable when that happens,” he said. “It’s kind of hard for us to get as much support that we’d like to have from publishing partners.”

Liberation seems in the mold of PSP's God of War games--probably good, but why not on PS3?
Liberation seems in the mold of PSP's God of War games--probably good, but why not on PS3?

In the past, Sony’s (and Nintendo's) marketshare in handhelds was much larger. In the past few years, that’s changed. The short-term solution appears to getting hands-on and working closely with third-parties that Sony’s had strong relationships with, a strategy that may have birthed Assassins Creed: Liberation.

Nintendo president Satoru Iwata used his keynote at the Game Developers Conference in 2011 to warn the industry about the dangers creators faced by the rise of social and mobile games. It’s not that social and mobile games were inherently bad, but Iwata worried small, cheap games could undermine everyone else.

Yoshida doesn’t share that opinion, or at least doesn’t appear to be as concerned.

“I always believe core gamers will never leave core gaming consoles because consoles are made for games,” he said. “We believe we understand what core gamers want, and it’s our role to provide the platform for game developers to really create deeper, immersive game experiences. We also appreciate people playing games on smartphones, as well. I play games on my smartphone, as well. Gamers play all kinds of games. I think the smartphone and tablet casual market will continue to grow, but what it’s doing is increasing the population of gamers in the world market.”

To that end, Sony’s established PS Mobile, formerly called PS Suite, a software development kit to get classic PlayStation games onto today’s modern mobile platforms. It’s partnering with HTC, but I couldn’t help but wonder if Sony would continue to ignore the elephant in the room named Apple.

Yoshida didn’t dismiss it outright, and blamed the lack of an iOS version on “technical difficulties.” He did admit it’s impossible to disregard the sheer number of devices Apple has sold, and that Sony is actively “experimenting” with applications to keep players connected to their PlayStation experiences.

“That’s one way in thinking to reach out to that casual audience who have found gaming for the first time,” he said.

Vita is just four months old, but the machine has not been a runaway success. There haven’t been many big games since its February launch here, and one of the chief reasons I’d been considering buying one for myself, Sound Shapes, is now coming to PS3, too. Yoshida didn’t make it sound like Sony was preparing to take the same drastic steps Nintendo did when 3DS stumbled out of the gate, where the company tossed out price cuts and free games.

Still, he was especially proud of announcing support for original PlayStation games, the most requested feature he’s heard from PS Vita owners on Twitter. (He’s really active on Twitter and responds often, by the way).

Since Square Enix doesn't feel like remaking Final Fantasy VII, maybe it's time to play it again.
Since Square Enix doesn't feel like remaking Final Fantasy VII, maybe it's time to play it again.

Yoshida sympathized with players who simply find the $250 device too expensive right now, though.

“Our hardware group always work hard to try to cost reduce,” he said, “so that people who are waiting for PS Vita to eventually, in the future, become more affordable to them [can buy it].”

There’s no timetable for a possible price cut, only that it will happen “eventually.”

One way to extend the value proposition for Vita owners might be PlayStation Plus features, a no-brainer addition that made no appearance at E3. Yoshida actually laughed in a knowing sort of way when I asked him about it.

“We’ve been thinking, yeah,” he said.

Seconds later, a Sony representative made it clear there were no announcements at the moment, but Yoshida’s response should speak volumes. It’s unclear why PlayStation Plus for Vita wasn’t ready to go at E3, but count on it showing up eventually. Maybe Sony will make a bigger push at Tokyo Game Show.

Maybe we’ll see Orbis at TGS, too--I'm willing to bet a teaser. We didn’t touch on Sony’s next hardware very much, except in very broad strokes. I pointed out how it’s surprising to see Sony investing in new properties like Beyond and The Last of Us with the cycle winding down, but Yoshida saw that as an obvious move.

Even if you don't like Cage's games, you have to applaud Sony bankrolling his original ideas.
Even if you don't like Cage's games, you have to applaud Sony bankrolling his original ideas.

“It’s very important for us to have an opportunity to try something new for creative people,” he said, “while maintaining popular franchises so we can balance the business needs, as well as creative people’s needs.”

Though not explicitly said, it seems clear Yoshida’s group is deeply involved with Orbis. Vita was a “defining project” for the company, as it represented the first time the development side had a profound influence on hardware features. It was Yoshida’s job to connect the Japanese hardware developers with the right creative people from his departments, and make sure everyone’s needs were met.

“I moved to Japan from the US and every week, every day, I met with the hardware guys and joined the discussions and helped them communicated with the right studios,” he said.

He “absolutely” expected that relationship to continue going forward.

And forward may not be far off. Yoshida's tasked with the mammoth duty of managing Sony's development portfolio as several internal and external transitions are underway. We'll see how those ideas pan out in the years ahead.

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@patrickklepek: If there's concern over the quality of the experience, then that's totally valid. I guess my problem is just with the argument of "why can't I just play this on my HDTV?" There are plenty of bite-sized handheld games that work great on HDTVs, like Rhythm Heaven or Lumines, and plenty of traditional console games that work great on handhelds, like God of War or Grand Theft Auto. As long as Vita has a good balance of both styles of games, I don't see the problem with having crazy ambitious big screen-style experiences on a handheld.

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@AuthenticM said:

@samcroft90 said:

@Th3_James said:

Uncharted 2 and Heavy Rain were the last games I played on PS3. I might have to turn it on once again for The Last of Us, but idk if I even want to bother despite how cool it looks.

Hearing anyone say they bought a system (whether its Sony, Xbox, or Nintendo), and regrets it because they dont play it, well you are 100% correct you shouldn't buy the next gen systems; But why wouldn't we want to be able to play all games on all systems? I agree STEAM is awesome! I play that as much as the other systems. But why would you only want Steam? I mean if you are a "PC or die" troll guy, then yeah this conversation is over already. but 100% all 3 companies first party stuff is totally worth owning. I can see if you said you bought it at $500 and wish it had been cheaper? But to not want it at all??? Really?

Like Authentic, Nintendo is the one that gets played least - but i would be sad as hell not be able to play Mario Galaxy etc... And enough Xbox Live games are cool enough to own and Xbox for even if you don't like Halo or Gears.

But to not like your PS3 you literally bought one and then just decided: #1 - i wont play any 3rd party games on it even if they have features that the Xbox or PC versions don't, (right there it was dumb of you to have bought it), #2 - the blu-ray player, and free netflix etc is totally worthless to you, (why/how can you not at least use blu-ray, you sound like liars!), and #3- MSG4, Heavenly Sword, Twisted Metal, Uncharted 1-3, Infamous 1+2, LBP 1+2, Motorstorms, Gran Turismo, Resistance 1-3, Killzone 2+3, Demon Souls, the E3 stuff (Beyond and Battle Royal and Last of Us), God of War, the Sony Collections, Heavy Rain, Ratchet and Clank, Sly Cooper, MLB the Show, all the PSN stuff like Journey etc is not worth owning the system for??? Really? Are you that spoiled or that not into games that none of that floats your boat? I can see being mad that you bought Wii motion plus, or Move, or Kinect or even Vita or something. But not liking a whole console at all - with that many exclusives and downloadable games and features? Even with no 3rd party games (which again is kinda stupid to blame a console for your weird ass behavior), I literally don't believe you.

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Apple crap sucks ball its overpriced slow ass hardware in shiny white plastic with a horrible OS and None of the fucking apple hipster that own that crap know how to work there devices enough to use playstation mobile anyway. I am fucking amazed some apple hipster get photoshop installed on there machines and know how to work it.

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great read dude but why wasn't this made a video like the other e3 interviews? Lots of off the record side conversations?

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@Chroma_Auron: Phil Harris, the fisherman who died?

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@Cubical: great photoshop work on that android icon. super stuff. what time did you get to bed, 2?

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No sarcasm or snark, but I honestly believe that Sony is not putting money into Cage's ideas so much as they are putting money into his tech demos. Among other things, they didn't seem to market Heavy Rain much, but I'll be damned if that "The Casting" video didn't make the rounds several times to show off the hardware.

Nevertheless, I'm very much happy that Cage is able to try out his experiments regardless of why he's being bankrolled.

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@Cubical: Mad?

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@squidracerX said:

@AuthenticM said:

@samcroft90 said:

@Th3_James said:

Uncharted 2 and Heavy Rain were the last games I played on PS3. I might have to turn it on once again for The Last of Us, but idk if I even want to bother despite how cool it looks.

Hearing anyone say they bought a system (whether its Sony, Xbox, or Nintendo), and regrets it because they dont play it, well you are 100% correct you shouldn't buy the next gen systems; But why wouldn't we want to be able to play all games on all systems? I agree STEAM is awesome! I play that as much as the other systems. But why would you only want Steam? I mean if you are a "PC or die" troll guy, then yeah this conversation is over already. but 100% all 3 companies first party stuff is totally worth owning. I can see if you said you bought it at $500 and wish it had been cheaper? But to not want it at all??? Really?

Like Authentic, Nintendo is the one that gets played least - but i would be sad as hell not be able to play Mario Galaxy etc... And enough Xbox Live games are cool enough to own and Xbox for even if you don't like Halo or Gears.

But to not like your PS3 you literally bought one and then just decided: #1 - i wont play any 3rd party games on it even if they have features that the Xbox or PC versions don't, (right there it was dumb of you to have bought it), #2 - the blu-ray player, and free netflix etc is totally worthless to you, (why/how can you not at least use blu-ray, you sound like liars!), and #3- MSG4, Heavenly Sword, Twisted Metal, Uncharted 1-3, Infamous 1+2, LBP 1+2, Motorstorms, Gran Turismo, Resistance 1-3, Killzone 2+3, Demon Souls, the E3 stuff (Beyond and Battle Royal and Last of Us), God of War, the Sony Collections, Heavy Rain, Ratchet and Clank, Sly Cooper, MLB the Show, all the PSN stuff like Journey etc is not worth owning the system for??? Really? Are you that spoiled or that not into games that none of that floats your boat? I can see being mad that you bought Wii motion plus, or Move, or Kinect or even Vita or something. But not liking a whole console at all - with that many exclusives and downloadable games and features? Even with no 3rd party games (which again is kinda stupid to blame a console for your weird ass behavior), I literally don't believe you.

I never said I regret my purchases. I just said I didn't get that much out of them. I will probably end up purchasing every next gen console at some point in time, but probably will not buy day one. Out of all those games you listed I only really gave a fuck about MGS4, Uncharted 2, heavy rain, god of war, and pixel junk shooter. I don't see how that makes me spoiled, or not into games. I don't hate the PS3, I just expected more from it. I still think it has the best dashboard and features of any of the current consoles.

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It's nice to see Sony as a company sticking with "we've made a gaming device to play games on and that's always what it will primarily be for" rather than Microsoft's ever-expanding media network machine.

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@Th3_James said:

@squidracerX said:

I never said I regret my purchases.

Bah i just posted and it didn't post, I hate that, what a waste of time :)

Trying to read who wrote what up top is confusing at 4am, and i certainly didnt want to put words in your mouth. But I think your comments did in fact imply you regret buying the ps3, and wouldn't do it again next gen? Either way I know if I paid $500 for a system and only played 4 games on it; if i hadn't even played a new release in 2 years of a 6 year cycle - unless I was super rich so it didn't matter to me i know i would regret that purchase! Its just a waste of money :) "I don't know if I am going to own all consoles in this coming generation of systems like I did with this one." That sounds like the very definition of regret! You bought all the consoles this gen, barely played PS3, were disappointed with it and dis-satisfied obviously, learned your lesson and won't repeat that action again next gen. Hence regret; doing something that afterwords you realize wasn't worth it and you wouldn't repeat it if given the choice. So I wasn't being kooky crazy off base there assigning that word to you. literally disappointment and dissatisfaction are in the definition of regret. Not saying you have to love the console, but if you really do own a PS3 (which isn't listed on your profile so i dont know if you do or are just trolling, but maybe you never connect to the net, i know I dont on my old xbox, so i give you benefit of doubt), its crazy what you are missing. i also see that you have played 120 Xbox games, so again i think you actually give the PS3 a big disservice here (its a PS3 article) by saying it "disappoints", if you played all those xbox and steam games that are not exclusive to the platforms on the PS3 it would be doing just fine for you. So basically your odd choice to ONLY play exclusives which you cant even be bothered to try on one of your consoles is really odd? But again you mention that your PC is more entertaining than any console, so maybe that's your bag. But fanboy-ism aside - all the consoles first party stuff has been mind blowing this gen. But you cant bother to try a game you think looks cool?? wacky! So I agreed with you, dont bother wasting your cash next gen, you are right! Stay away for you pocket book's sake, nothing on PS4 will be much better than what you saw this gen :)

"I don't see how that makes me spoiled, ... I just expected more from it". Again, that kind of is the definition of spoiled? What the hell else could they do to make you happy? Blu-ray, free internet, in your own words "the best interface", 3rd party exclusive content, tons of PSN games, billions of dollars in developer costs - tons of games that never come to steam; and you can't even be bothered to try the new games that are basically sequels to the only ones you say you liked? You are entitled to be disappointed, i just think its CRAZY. Fact is Gameinformer, (who you may or not agree with - but they are the biggest game magazine in the world), did an article last month which showed that PS3 had more 9+ games than Xbox or Wii in their magazine. And you seem to be fine with Xbox? So there are a ton of good games just on PS3 alone, combined with the other 2 console's exclusives and i am baffled at your disappointment in "the consoles". Baffled. If its just weird personal preference, or a truly honest opinion, well you are entitled to that and opinions cannot be wrong. I will drop it now. I know guys that wouldn't touch SNES back in the day because they loved Genesis, i think they are nuts (and SNES was better), but that's their opinion. Certainly if i was an MMO guy i'd choose PC. But i still wouldn't crap on consoles. So sorry if i was wrong, but to me it just sounded a lot like you were trolling.

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haha it did post. doh! :)

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@Y2Ken said:

It's nice to see Sony as a company sticking with "we've made a gaming device to play games on and that's always what it will primarily be for" rather than Microsoft's ever-expanding media network machine.

Agree 100%

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Great inerview, Shuhei is awesome

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Sounds interesting!

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@squidracerX said:

@Th3_James said:

@squidracerX said:

I never said I regret my purchases.

Bah i just posted and it didn't post, I hate that, what a waste of time :)

Trying to read who wrote what up top is confusing at 4am, and i certainly didnt want to put words in your mouth. But I think your comments did in fact imply you regret buying the ps3, and wouldn't do it again next gen? Either way I know if I paid $500 for a system and only played 4 games on it; if i hadn't even played a new release in 2 years of a 6 year cycle - unless I was super rich so it didn't matter to me i know i would regret that purchase! Its just a waste of money :) "I don't know if I am going to own all consoles in this coming generation of systems like I did with this one." That sounds like the very definition of regret! You bought all the consoles this gen, barely played PS3, were disappointed with it and dis-satisfied obviously, learned your lesson and won't repeat that action again next gen. Hence regret; doing something that afterwords you realize wasn't worth it and you wouldn't repeat it if given the choice. So I wasn't being kooky crazy off base there assigning that word to you. literally disappointment and dissatisfaction are in the definition of regret. Not saying you have to love the console, but if you really do own a PS3 (which isn't listed on your profile so i dont know if you do or are just trolling, but maybe you never connect to the net, i know I dont on my old xbox, so i give you benefit of doubt), its crazy what you are missing. i also see that you have played 120 Xbox games, so again i think you actually give the PS3 a big disservice here (its a PS3 article) by saying it "disappoints", if you played all those xbox and steam games that are not exclusive to the platforms on the PS3 it would be doing just fine for you. So basically your odd choice to ONLY play exclusives which you cant even be bothered to try on one of your consoles is really odd? But again you mention that your PC is more entertaining than any console, so maybe that's your bag. But fanboy-ism aside - all the consoles first party stuff has been mind blowing this gen. But you cant bother to try a game you think looks cool?? wacky! So I agreed with you, dont bother wasting your cash next gen, you are right! Stay away for you pocket book's sake, nothing on PS4 will be much better than what you saw this gen :)

"I don't see how that makes me spoiled, ... I just expected more from it". Again, that kind of is the definition of spoiled? What the hell else could they do to make you happy? Blu-ray, free internet, in your own words "the best interface", 3rd party exclusive content, tons of PSN games, billions of dollars in developer costs - tons of games that never come to steam; and you can't even be bothered to try the new games that are basically sequels to the only ones you say you liked? You are entitled to be disappointed, i just think its CRAZY. Fact is Gameinformer, (who you may or not agree with - but they are the biggest game magazine in the world), did an article last month which showed that PS3 had more 9+ games than Xbox or Wii in their magazine. And you seem to be fine with Xbox? So there are a ton of good games just on PS3 alone, combined with the other 2 console's exclusives and i am baffled at your disappointment in "the consoles". Baffled. If its just weird personal preference, or a truly honest opinion, well you are entitled to that and opinions cannot be wrong. I will drop it now. I know guys that wouldn't touch SNES back in the day because they loved Genesis, i think they are nuts (and SNES was better), but that's their opinion. Certainly if i was an MMO guy i'd choose PC. But i still wouldn't crap on consoles. So sorry if i was wrong, but to me it just sounded a lot like you were trolling.

I didn't mention this, but for quite some time I used the PS3 for media purposes. I played more than 4-5 PS3 games, I just said I only gave a shit about a handful of them because those were the experiences that made it really worth it. I also didn't mention that I gave my ps3 to my mother awhile ago and I would have to borrow it back if I wanted to play the last of us. I also stated that the games I own on steam could last me longer than any console could. I say this because I have such a huge backlog of games to get to and I want to play, but new games keep coming out and I have a pool that is much larger to pull from on PC due to the shear amount of games on PC dating back 15+ years.

I don't want to start internet beef or some stupid argument, so lets just leave this.

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I own a PS3, but not a Vita. I just can't bring myself to throw down $250 for it when the only game I would play is Uncharted Golden Abyss, and I still have Among Thieves and Drake's Deception to get through, anyway. I'm not even sure what would make me justify buying the Vita.

Oh, and great piece, Patrick.

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@Y2Ken said:

It's nice to see Sony as a company sticking with "we've made a gaming device to play games on and that's always what it will primarily be for" rather than Microsoft's ever-expanding media network machine.

This is probably the only time where Sony's size is helping them. "Why would people pay a yearly fee and get hyped up to use features on one device that they take for granted everywhere else? They should take them for granted on our hardware as well."

Youtube, Hulu and Netflix and all that are nice, but in this day and age, you can get that shit on damn never every electronic device imaginable. Even ignoring dedicated media hubs like Roku and Boxee, internet video apps are on blu-ray and DVD players, in TVs, and can be downloaded on smartphones. Microsoft is making a huge deal out of what are now rather mundane features. I expect Sony to continue their glorious comeback as MS continues to lose the plot.

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@Binarynova said:

Liberation seems in the mold of PSP's God of War games--probably good, but why not on PS3?

There haven’t been many big games since [the Vita's] February launch here, and one of the chief reasons I’d been considering buying one for myself, Sound Shapes, is now coming to PS3, too.

/facepalm

Well, now I'm confused. Which is it? Should Sony market great gaming experiences exclusively for the Vita or do you want to play them on the PS3?

The point he's making with the first quote is that Assassin's Creed and God of War aren't doing anything unique on the Vita hardware and would almost certainly be improved as console games.

Sound Shapes, on the other hand, is the sort of quirky game that seems like a perfect fit for a handheld, but its viability as a major seller for the Vita (like Lumines for the PSP of Brain Age on the DS) has been neutered by its availability on an already-established PS3 market.

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@Y2Ken: Definitely

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Sony, I think has been very smart with its first parties this generation. Ten years ago I sort of knew who Naughty Dog was but the the emphasis was very solidly on the property. Now properties and studio booth get press and the people working on the games get more press as well. The terms Amy Hening, Naughty Dog, Nathan Drake, and Uncharted are known. . I think that is why Sony can support a new IP so late in the cycle. They know Naughty Dog has cashe.

The second thing I think Sony has done correctly this generatiuon has been to give developers space to succeed and fail. They gave Kazunori Yamauchi space to make Gran Tourismo his way, but they were also giving him rope to either climb up or hang himself... Kazunori Yamauchi climbed.Fumito Ueda hung himself with the rope given. It may seem like bad business to let people spend four or five years on projects, but it is PROBABLY good art.

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@Dark_Lord_Spam said:

@Binarynova said:

Liberation seems in the mold of PSP's God of War games--probably good, but why not on PS3?

There haven’t been many big games since [the Vita's] February launch here, and one of the chief reasons I’d been considering buying one for myself, Sound Shapes, is now coming to PS3, too.

/facepalm

Well, now I'm confused. Which is it? Should Sony market great gaming experiences exclusively for the Vita or do you want to play them on the PS3?

The point he's making with the first quote is that Assassin's Creed and God of War aren't doing anything unique on the Vita hardware and would almost certainly be improved as console games.

Sound Shapes, on the other hand, is the sort of quirky game that seems like a perfect fit for a handheld, but its viability as a major seller for the Vita (like Lumines for the PSP of Brain Age on the DS) has been neutered by its availability on an already-established PS3 market.

Soundshapes would never have been a system seller for the Vita, outside of a few enthusiasts on internet forums. Sony know this and now buying it once gets you both the PS3 and Vita versions - it's better for them in the long run in many ways. There's quite a few things they've done wrong with the system but that certainly isn't one of them. 
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