The Next Assassin’s Creed Won’t Star Connor

Good. I disliked Conner and the time period. Glad they are leaving it in the dust. Though after this game I think I'm kind of done with the series for a bit. Or at least until the next one goes on a super sale.

Hear me out. You start the new game as Desmond (very, very briefly) , with the early twist being that you are someone in the Animus reliving Desmond's experiences as an assassin. You then do all sorts of neat future assassin stuff.

@GaspoweR said:

It doesn't seem surprising with what happened to Assassin's Creed 3 when I found out that the current Creative Director of Assassin's Creed was also the guy who spear headed the last Army of Two game prior to joining Ubisoft. He also doesn't really think that feudal Japan is a good setting and has also made some other dumb comments .

Well he's right about boring settings, at least.

@WeaponBoy said:

Connor was just...boring. He just lacked that certain charm that made you like him despite how much of a douche he could be. Connor was just kind of a douche in general.

Fair warning, I'm going to make a comparison that some people might be grumpy about and I'm honestly not trying to start a flame war, this is just my opinion.

I liken Connor vs. Ezio to DmC's Dante vs. DMC3/4's Dante. They're both idiotic power fantasies, but I just found new Dante to be kind of insufferably cocky rather than entertainingly cocky. Kind of like Nero was in DMC4, but Nero's melodrama was balanced out by Dante being around to act as a foil.

Well, you could also liken Nero to the current Dante with the whole teenage angst angle. Like playing as Nero though in terms of combat but didn't like him as a character. I liked his dad better (even though it's only alluded to and I'm not sure if it has been confirmed).

So who the hell are they going to put in the animus?

i dont think Connor was a bad character, he was just a meh character. his best character moments were in those stupid homestead side missions.

i think feudal japan would be perfect for th e next one though. (except the protagonist assassin ISNT a ninja WHAT A TWIST).

though i dont think i'll be playing anymore assassins creed games unless they finally stop using that blinding white loading/transition screen that pops up every 2 seconds. its so distracting and annoying, especially once you're aware of it. (sorry if i ruined AC games for you now) but its a REALLY bad design choice i hate it.

No Japan. That would be silly and boring.

Victorian-Era London or the 1917 Russian revolution would be an AMAZING setting for an Assassin's Creed game.

Praise the lord. No more Mr. Boring Slab

@jerseyscum said:

No Japan. That would be silly and boring.

How so?

Connor wasn't THAT bad, he was just outshined by Haytham and Ezio.

@Hailinel said:

@jerseyscum said:

No Japan. That would be silly and boring.

How so?

Last time somebody tried to mix Japan and assassins, it didn't work out so well.

@Ett said:

Assassins Creed 1666.

Diablo 4?

@Video_Game_King said:

@Hailinel said:

@jerseyscum said:

No Japan. That would be silly and boring.

How so?

Last time somebody tried to mix Japan and assassins, it didn't work out so well.

Ouch!

@jerseyscum said:

@Video_Game_King said:

@Hailinel said:

@jerseyscum said:

No Japan. That would be silly and boring.

How so?

Last time somebody tried to mix Japan and assassins, it didn't work out so well.

Ouch!

Non sequiturs don't answer the question.

Ya, my problems with the game weren't with Connor but I can't say he'll be missed either. 
Weird choice, though. To do that instead of, you know, write him better.

@chilipeppersman: I agree with you. It is very much like Call of Duty. Every game doesn't evolve the formula and doesn't give you a good reason to come back to it once you have experienced it once already.

But you haven't experienced it. You played the first game, which is significantly worse than the follow ups. Assassins Creed 2 was a gigantic leap forward from the first game in almost every single way, while its sequels have been just Assassins Creed 2, but with a new coat of paint.

Look, I hate what the series has become and its dead to me as it stands, but that doesn't stop me from recommending someone play (and only) Assassins Creed 2. I don't get the reasoning of writing off an entire series when you haven't even tried one of the games in it that was actually praised.

In my eyes, it's kind of like writing off the entire Call of Duty franchise, even though Modern Warfare is considered an outstanding title of this generation, because you didn't like a PS1 Medal of Honour game.

If the Assassins Creed games just aren't your thing, then fine. Not saying everyone has to play them or will enjoy them. But don't write off the games in the past by how the series is treated in the present.

Played the first, loved it (Altair is still my favorite assassin), played ACII and Brotherhood, liked them too. But I just couldn't play more then 4-5 hours of Revelations (tired of Ezio). I want to complete ACIII but I just don't have fun playing it, it feels like a chore.

@jerseyscum said:

No Japan. That would be silly and boring.

How so?

Move things forward to Cold War Germany after the wall went up. I Don't think it would happen since Ubi seems to like their history pre-eighteenth century, but one can hope.

Overall, I enjoyed AC3 enough to finish it, but the main character wasn't interesting at all, especially after you've gotten use to playing as the cool Templar guy at the beginning. Most people agree, he should have been the main character. And the way they wrapped up Desmond's story was also very disappointing. They need to comeback strong with this next AC or the series may die.

Sadly, we do live in a "What have you done for me lately?" society.

While Connor was no Ezio, I still liked him. Even so, I'm not sure where they could have taken his story if they were to make a sequel to AC3.

Just please, no Japan. It's so overdone. There are so many other possible avenues to take the franchise. I really hope they get creative.

@jerseyscum said:

No Japan. That would be silly and boring.

Victorian-Era London or the 1917 Russian revolution would be an AMAZING setting for an Assassin's Creed game.

This.

I also think the French Revolution would have been more interesting than the American Revolution, but as the French say, c'est la vie.

They announced there would be a new protagonist and setting in an earnings call? Is there at least a quote or something?

Assassin's Creed set in the first Moon city please.

@chilipeppersman: Good to hear you played the worst in the series and completely gave up on it.

But can anyone give me a reason to care about this franchise anymore? Anyone? Please?

@Hailinel said:

@jerseyscum said:

No Japan. That would be silly and boring.

How so?

Given Ubisoft's stated ambition of visiting time periods unexplored by video games, a game set in, say, Feudal Japan doesn't really fit that bill. That's not to say that there are actually feudal Japan-set games clogging up the shelves, but rather that the fetishization of that element of Japanese history is so ubiquitous in gaming culture that it comes to the same thing.

Alright, no I don't want a Japanese Assassin's Creed. It just reminds me of the GTA IV rumors, back then. Nah. Egypt, might be alright though, Russia.

Civil War Assassin's Creed game. Basically Django Unchained, but with like stealth and shit. And just for fun, you play as a woman, bam. GAME OF THE FUCKING YEAR!

Connor looked boring, but he isn't the main problem with this series. Maybe it's time to stop calling it "Assassin's" Creed.

@Encephalon said:

@Hailinel said:

@jerseyscum said:

No Japan. That would be silly and boring.

How so?

Given Ubisoft's stated ambition of visiting time periods unexplored by video games, a game set in, say, Feudal Japan doesn't really fit that bill. That's not to say that there are actually feudal Japan-set games clogging up the shelves, but rather that the fetishization of that element of Japanese history is so ubiquitous in gaming culture that it comes to the same thing.

Nah, Feudal Japan wouldn't work as well as the Bakumatsu. Whether it is the actual feudal setting, or a 1800s one, or something mythical like Okami, a Japan-centric Assassin's Creed game is something people have wanted since AC1. Not saying it is the only good setting, but one of them could be great, as could a laundry list of many others.

Anyway, though I really liked AC3 and Connor in general, it makes perfect sense why he won't be the main character in the next one, since it will probably be set in the French Revolution, seeing as how the next "thing" in history that would be big enough for an AC game in the USA is the Civil War, that would be a pretty long time for ol' Rathtahthreh:ton.

@sprode said:

Connor looked boring, but he isn't the main problem with this series. Maybe it's time to stop calling it "Assassin's" Creed.

Yeah, time to call it Hitman's List of Unbreakable Rules.

Okay, I'm a hardcore fan of the Assassins Creed series, and I was really disappointed in how AC3 ended. That said, it sounds like Ubi Soft is moving on from both Desmond and Conner, and I have to say I'm very happy about that. We're finally getting a new character and possibly a new setting that hasn't been explored in video games yet. I'm looking forward to learning more about this game, so we can see how it turns out.

One thing, though. I would really appreciate it if Ubi Soft would take it's time on the game, and not release it until next year. It would feel too rushed if it comes out this year, since they just announced it.

@LotusPrince said:

Civil War Assassin's Creed game. Basically Django Unchained, but with like stealth and shit. And just for fun, you play as a woman, bam. GAME OF THE FUCKING YEAR!

Southern Belle assassin = Yes

I still think that a French Revolution Assassin's Creed would be amazing.

To be fair to Ubisoft.....Ezio is possibly my favorite character in gaming this entire generation. I'm naturally going to be biased against a new protagonist.

One more thing: SET THE GAME IN ONE GODDAMN CITY. THIS IS WHAT MADE BROTHERHOOD SO GREAT.

The Frontier nonsense in AC3 killed the pacing and flow of that game stone dead. Simplify (or eliminate) the economy, focus on actually intresting side quests (Tombs, Da Vinci Machines, Subject 16 puzzles, Naval combat) and you can do no wrong.

Or.....we turn the dial on the Animus all the way back.

Back to the First Civ.

Sadly I'm one of the (seemingly few) people that LOVED AC3 and Ratohnhaké:ton as a character. I loved the wilderness and climbing in 1700's Boston. I loved hunting animals and climbing trees and cliff sides. Spent hours exploring the wilds and wanted more.

I would love to see more of this setting, its unique and interesting. Japan or China would be really boring. Maybe take it to Central/South America? Aztecs or Inca. BEFORE any Europeans came.

@Nikz said:

Sadly I'm one of the (seemingly few) people that LOVED AC3 and Ratohnhaké:ton as a character. I loved the wilderness and climbing in 1700's Boston. I loved hunting animals and climbing trees and cliff sides. Spent hours exploring the wilds and wanted more.

I would love to see more of this setting, its unique and interesting. Japan or China would be really boring. Maybe take it to Central/South America? Aztecs or Inca. BEFORE any Europeans came.

I loved the wilderness in 3! I don't know what wilderness they could put for Brazil, but I'd sure love it!

Playing AC3 now, not loving it, barely liking it. Shaking the dice & rolling again may be a good thing.

Fuck that shit. I was mislead by Ubisoft into thinking the plot would be resolved in 3, what with the 2012 shit they had been hyping for so long.

Well guess what? It's 20 fucking 13 and I don't give a shit about Assassin's Creed anymore. You had your chance to end it, now we're physically past the time point where your story is even relevant. The world ended, Desmond failed. So what the 4th game is going to take place over a year in the past by the time in comes out?

After 5 games in 5 years, I think that's enough. I took a year off from the franchise with Revelations to come back with III and realized I just couldn't do it anymore. Looking forward to the next big Ubisotft franchise (Watchdogs?)

The first AC showed so much promise but made me want to punch the shit out of my TV, for some reason I found it frustrating...not the difficulty, but the pacing.

But I'm tired of hearing people bitching about Ubisoft..."milking the franchise dry," etc...from morons who just seem to copy/paste arguments they read somewhere else. The series got exponentially better, anyone who just likes the first one is...just wrong.

And while ACIII was a little disappointing, it's hard not to admire the direction they took, and the story-telling was and has always been top-notch as far as games go, probably among the best storylines of any game, while I'm the kind of person who doesn't give a damn about whatever goes on in a game as long as it's fun to play.

I forgot my point...oh yeah...I agree with Patrick, I really liked Connor as a character, he wasn't one of the drawbacks in the game. As badass as Ezio is, it was time to move on from him, and I liked starting out as a stubborn kid who came from nothing, had all odds against him, etc. It was a refreshing change of pace after playing as Ezio, basically the Bruce Wayne of the Renaissance, for three games straight (although three amazing games).

But to hell with the first game, ACIII was certainly disappointing but definitely not a bad game and still light years beyond AC 1.

Haytham game, plz.

Another one hops on the COD cho cho train.

French Revolution!!! PLEASE!

Wow a lot of people are butthurt in here. You guys do know this will be the 2nd in the ac3 series so it's going to be the best. Just like all the other second games.

@fox01313 said:

I'd much rather them do another assassin creed game with the female assassin from the vita game.

Word. Didn't play the game, but she seemed a really intersting character. And she had the best name. :)

Probably for the best they just move away from the Desmond line of things. I mean, I actually like Connor, but having Desmond be revived in some way - even if it's a fake revival or whatever - to play as Connor again would have turned me pretty cold on this franchise at last.

@needforswede said:

And while ACIII was a little disappointing, it's hard not to admire the direction they took, and the story-telling was and has always been top-notch as far as games go, probably among the best storylines of any game, while I'm the kind of person who doesn't give a damn about whatever goes on in a game as long as it's fun to play.

I forgot my point...oh yeah...I agree with Patrick, I really liked Connor as a character, he wasn't one of the drawbacks in the game. As badass as Ezio is, it was time to move on from him, and I liked starting out as a stubborn kid who came from nothing, had all odds against him, etc. It was a refreshing change of pace after playing as Ezio, basically the Bruce Wayne of the Renaissance, for three games straight (although three amazing games).

Agreed for the most part, man. Connor's probably the one I sympathized with the most out of the three main assassins. And I think Haytham was just a run-of-the-mill snarky English character so I wasn't all that impressed with him.

I will say, however, that the Desmond story was a rushed, hot mess. That had a great thing going on in the first couple of games with just a bunch of general historical conspiracy theories and Templar v. Assassin stuff which panned out to diddly squat and the First Civilization nonsense. Last game definitely ended with on a low note for me.

I would love to see more of this setting, its unique and interesting. Japan or China would be really boring. Maybe take it to Central/South America? Aztecs or Inca. BEFORE any Europeans came.

Yes, please! I wouldn't mind China or Japan, though. I'd be more bored w/ a Victorian England setting tbh.

Ooooooor they could bring an Aveline game to the main consoles? Pretty please? No? If not her specifically then at least another female main character? I'd settle for that.

I've had dreams about ACIII, running through trees, throwing tomahawk at a bear, and stabbing a redcoat and pushing him off a stupidly high building. ~ This is all whatever, whatever I think. But, I just don't think there's too many other games where one would rather, "live," in. GTA, COD, RE, all no. Maybe Red Dead. Anyway, I'm still awfully excited for, "Black Flags." I saw that Reddit earlier, and it was pretty amazing.

I want to be an assassin in feudal Japan

This game is both feet into "they cant just do another one of those" status, right next to zelda