Ubisoft Responds to Assassin's Creed III Leaks by Just Up and Revealing its Cover Art [UPDATED]

Looks like I'll be playing AC for the fourth consecutive winter.

Not really excited about this one and I am an AC whore. I have all Xbox releases of AC.

I tolerated gameplay for the architectural vistas and relaxation from historical and political remoteness.

American revolution is too close for escape. There are so many political minefields: slavery, constitutional issues, native American issues. And there are no cities.

The game mechanics better be different to make climbing trees and forts interesting.

I will probably buy it anyway, but it looks like they are getting away from the core offering that made AC unique to me.

That is just... YES.

Hmmm if they handle the subject accurately this could be interesting. The American war of independence is one of the most freely altered and revised events in the history of America so this could go either way could be interesting to see.

Oh and Alex WTF why make an inflammatory comment like that? I mean seriously like that wasn't going to have people arguing and bring down the tone of the site. I'm a bit disappointed to be honest.

@FirebirdINF: Actually, there WERE already cities in America... just saying.

Fail

Shouldn't listen to anyone with a flag of their country as their avatar

I wonder will the UK box art be different...

Judging from the leaked details, it sounds a lot like the developers took a few pages from Red Dead Redemption. There's going to be a wilderness set around the cities of Boston and New York, filled with animals that you can hunt for pelts and stuff.

And you can climb trees. They're making a sort of "Predator" element to it. So think that fight in the woods scene in The Patriot, but with Assassin shit.

Cannot fucking wait for this game.

Damn. I really liked the ideas of Victorian London or Old ass Japan.

Not interested so far.

This whole "I can blend into the crowd with my fancy ass assassins robe" thing is becoming increasingly less practical.

Looks awesome. Can't wait for the game to come out.

@envane said:

@huser said:

@Turambar said:

@huser said:

@Humanity said:

@huser

@Turambar said:

@Humanity said:

@MindOST

Like most people, I just hope they don't go the easy route and make the British the "Bad Guys" and the revolutionaries the "Good Guys."

I don't see why they wouldn't do that. Do people really think the British were really nice guys during that time or something? British colonies weren't some happy fun camps where the indigenous population thrived. The English were by all account "bad guys" throughout early history, unless exploitation for self benefit is ok all of a sudden.

If by indigenous population, you mean the Native Americans, almost all fought on the side of the British, not the Colonists. If you are talking about the white population of the colonies, it's worth pointing out that Canada was more than willing to stay with the crow for another century while in the 13 Colonies, estimates of the size of the Loyalist population is around a third of the total population.

Seriously, it's not like the Revolutionary War suddenly altered people on a genetic level and deleted their upbringing. They were, just a few years earlier, largely loyal subjects of the crown. So if the English were right bastards, then...well it's not exactly six degrees of separation here.

I'm referring to the fact that this will be a video game where there will be a good and a bad side. AC Revelations had very clearly defined good and bad guys despite neither party being completely guilt free in historical context. So people saying "I hope the British aren't portrayed as bad guys here that's bullshit!" are strange to me because that's exactly how I'd imagine it would pan out. From the American standpoint the colonists were the "good guys" that splintered off from the crown. Of course the term "Americans" is largely symbolical at that point in time since as you mention they were loyal British born and bred subjects. Since we are slowly moving towards the present and Desmond is American that just leads me to naturally assume the game would have you play as a third party, as the series always had, lending a helping hand to the colonists.

I'd assume the badguys are the Templars and their knowing or unknowing minions and accomplices. Given they pretty much own the US by the time of Desmond, I'd be just as likely be inclined to believe that the TEMPLARS are running the secessionist train to establish a completely independent political body.

Given what all the released artwork of the game are like thus far, I'd say the protagonist being on the side of the colonists is pretty much guaranteed.

I'm just going by this one here

http://www.joystiq.com/screenshots/assassins-creed-3/4863676/#/3

Blue and Gold being an established color scheme for the Continental Army. Whereas the Brits, well you know...

Now maybe that guy is a traitor, spy, or about to be saved, but he looks not long for this world.

EDIT - Maybe a Hessian, though. The exact cut is beyond my knowledge of the times.

WHAT IS THIS MESSY NEST OF QUOTES FUUUCK

WE NEED TO GO DEEPER!!

@Stubee said:

If someone asked me "What country has a very short and limited history that has been portrayed to death in almost every form of media" do you know what I would answer.....

You can see where I'm going. This is disappointing.

Says the guy with the Red Dead Redemption avatar. :P

I want to put it this way for all of you: If the Assassin's Creed lore has already firmly established that the Americans would more than likely not be the good guys (due to the founding fathers potentially all being templars), why would they go ahead and pick America, then switch it up for fear of backlash? Their sales are good enough without needing to pander to us, so it's not like they're trying to reclaim the American audience.

That said, I hope that the Americans and British are both harboring baddies. I want someone to stick a thumb in Fox News' eye and break free of this oppressive patriotism. It's beyond old and we Americans weren't angels of purity throughout history so we need to stop being so defensive about it.

@Rotnac said:

@envane said:

@huser said:

@Turambar said:

@huser said:

@Humanity said:

@huser

@Turambar said:

@Humanity said:

@MindOST

Like most people, I just hope they don't go the easy route and make the British the "Bad Guys" and the revolutionaries the "Good Guys."

I don't see why they wouldn't do that. Do people really think the British were really nice guys during that time or something? British colonies weren't some happy fun camps where the indigenous population thrived. The English were by all account "bad guys" throughout early history, unless exploitation for self benefit is ok all of a sudden.

If by indigenous population, you mean the Native Americans, almost all fought on the side of the British, not the Colonists. If you are talking about the white population of the colonies, it's worth pointing out that Canada was more than willing to stay with the crow for another century while in the 13 Colonies, estimates of the size of the Loyalist population is around a third of the total population.

Seriously, it's not like the Revolutionary War suddenly altered people on a genetic level and deleted their upbringing. They were, just a few years earlier, largely loyal subjects of the crown. So if the English were right bastards, then...well it's not exactly six degrees of separation here.

I'm referring to the fact that this will be a video game where there will be a good and a bad side. AC Revelations had very clearly defined good and bad guys despite neither party being completely guilt free in historical context. So people saying "I hope the British aren't portrayed as bad guys here that's bullshit!" are strange to me because that's exactly how I'd imagine it would pan out. From the American standpoint the colonists were the "good guys" that splintered off from the crown. Of course the term "Americans" is largely symbolical at that point in time since as you mention they were loyal British born and bred subjects. Since we are slowly moving towards the present and Desmond is American that just leads me to naturally assume the game would have you play as a third party, as the series always had, lending a helping hand to the colonists.

I'd assume the badguys are the Templars and their knowing or unknowing minions and accomplices. Given they pretty much own the US by the time of Desmond, I'd be just as likely be inclined to believe that the TEMPLARS are running the secessionist train to establish a completely independent political body.

Given what all the released artwork of the game are like thus far, I'd say the protagonist being on the side of the colonists is pretty much guaranteed.

I'm just going by this one here

http://www.joystiq.com/screenshots/assassins-creed-3/4863676/#/3

Blue and Gold being an established color scheme for the Continental Army. Whereas the Brits, well you know...

Now maybe that guy is a traitor, spy, or about to be saved, but he looks not long for this world.

EDIT - Maybe a Hessian, though. The exact cut is beyond my knowledge of the times.

WHAT IS THIS MESSY NEST OF QUOTES FUUUCK

WE NEED TO GO DEEPER!!

Going Deeper

@Brockly46 said:

@Rotnac said:

@envane said:

@huser said:

@Turambar said:

@huser said:

@Humanity said:

@huser

@Turambar said:

@Humanity said:

@MindOST

Like most people, I just hope they don't go the easy route and make the British the "Bad Guys" and the revolutionaries the "Good Guys."

I don't see why they wouldn't do that. Do people really think the British were really nice guys during that time or something? British colonies weren't some happy fun camps where the indigenous population thrived. The English were by all account "bad guys" throughout early history, unless exploitation for self benefit is ok all of a sudden.

If by indigenous population, you mean the Native Americans, almost all fought on the side of the British, not the Colonists. If you are talking about the white population of the colonies, it's worth pointing out that Canada was more than willing to stay with the crow for another century while in the 13 Colonies, estimates of the size of the Loyalist population is around a third of the total population.

Seriously, it's not like the Revolutionary War suddenly altered people on a genetic level and deleted their upbringing. They were, just a few years earlier, largely loyal subjects of the crown. So if the English were right bastards, then...well it's not exactly six degrees of separation here.

I'm referring to the fact that this will be a video game where there will be a good and a bad side. AC Revelations had very clearly defined good and bad guys despite neither party being completely guilt free in historical context. So people saying "I hope the British aren't portrayed as bad guys here that's bullshit!" are strange to me because that's exactly how I'd imagine it would pan out. From the American standpoint the colonists were the "good guys" that splintered off from the crown. Of course the term "Americans" is largely symbolical at that point in time since as you mention they were loyal British born and bred subjects. Since we are slowly moving towards the present and Desmond is American that just leads me to naturally assume the game would have you play as a third party, as the series always had, lending a helping hand to the colonists.

I'd assume the badguys are the Templars and their knowing or unknowing minions and accomplices. Given they pretty much own the US by the time of Desmond, I'd be just as likely be inclined to believe that the TEMPLARS are running the secessionist train to establish a completely independent political body.

Given what all the released artwork of the game are like thus far, I'd say the protagonist being on the side of the colonists is pretty much guaranteed.

I'm just going by this one here

http://www.joystiq.com/screenshots/assassins-creed-3/4863676/#/3

Blue and Gold being an established color scheme for the Continental Army. Whereas the Brits, well you know...

Now maybe that guy is a traitor, spy, or about to be saved, but he looks not long for this world.

EDIT - Maybe a Hessian, though. The exact cut is beyond my knowledge of the times.

WHAT IS THIS MESSY NEST OF QUOTES FUUUCK

WE NEED TO GO DEEPER!!

Going Deeper

I can't see my original post anymore!

@MindOST said:

@Brockly46 said:

@Rotnac said:

@envane said:

@huser said:

@Turambar said:

@huser said:

@Humanity said:

@huser

@Turambar said:

@Humanity said:

@MindOST

Like most people, I just hope they don't go the easy route and make the British the "Bad Guys" and the revolutionaries the "Good Guys."

I don't see why they wouldn't do that. Do people really think the British were really nice guys during that time or something? British colonies weren't some happy fun camps where the indigenous population thrived. The English were by all account "bad guys" throughout early history, unless exploitation for self benefit is ok all of a sudden.

If by indigenous population, you mean the Native Americans, almost all fought on the side of the British, not the Colonists. If you are talking about the white population of the colonies, it's worth pointing out that Canada was more than willing to stay with the crow for another century while in the 13 Colonies, estimates of the size of the Loyalist population is around a third of the total population.

Seriously, it's not like the Revolutionary War suddenly altered people on a genetic level and deleted their upbringing. They were, just a few years earlier, largely loyal subjects of the crown. So if the English were right bastards, then...well it's not exactly six degrees of separation here.

I'm referring to the fact that this will be a video game where there will be a good and a bad side. AC Revelations had very clearly defined good and bad guys despite neither party being completely guilt free in historical context. So people saying "I hope the British aren't portrayed as bad guys here that's bullshit!" are strange to me because that's exactly how I'd imagine it would pan out. From the American standpoint the colonists were the "good guys" that splintered off from the crown. Of course the term "Americans" is largely symbolical at that point in time since as you mention they were loyal British born and bred subjects. Since we are slowly moving towards the present and Desmond is American that just leads me to naturally assume the game would have you play as a third party, as the series always had, lending a helping hand to the colonists.

I'd assume the badguys are the Templars and their knowing or unknowing minions and accomplices. Given they pretty much own the US by the time of Desmond, I'd be just as likely be inclined to believe that the TEMPLARS are running the secessionist train to establish a completely independent political body.

Given what all the released artwork of the game are like thus far, I'd say the protagonist being on the side of the colonists is pretty much guaranteed.

I'm just going by this one here

http://www.joystiq.com/screenshots/assassins-creed-3/4863676/#/3

Blue and Gold being an established color scheme for the Continental Army. Whereas the Brits, well you know...

Now maybe that guy is a traitor, spy, or about to be saved, but he looks not long for this world.

EDIT - Maybe a Hessian, though. The exact cut is beyond my knowledge of the times.

WHAT IS THIS MESSY NEST OF QUOTES FUUUCK

WE NEED TO GO DEEPER!!

Going Deeper

I can't see my original post anymore!

It's like were diving into our ancestors' posting memories.

I would like to see the characters clothes fit the style of the era he is in. That look makes him look well out of place.

@Shun_Akiyama said:

@hermes said:

It sure looks more interesting than anything AC has thrown recently, but I will need to see it in motion though. There are too many things in the gameplay I don't know how they will translate to the new setting.

I will also be disappointed if all the templars are on the british side, while the good guys are all american revolutionaries... Seems too politically correct for a game made out of "different people from different cultures".

George Washington was a Templar in real life, so I don't think They'd change it.

Not true. He was a Mason. Though the Masons claim a link to the Templars, it is only 'in spirit', in fact there is no link whatsoever.

Trailer!

@Humanity said:

@MindOST said:

@Brockly46 said:

@Rotnac said:

@envane said:

@huser said:

@Turambar said:

@huser said:

@Humanity said:

@huser

@Turambar said:

@Humanity said:

@MindOST

Like most people, I just hope they don't go the easy route and make the British the "Bad Guys" and the revolutionaries the "Good Guys."

I don't see why they wouldn't do that. Do people really think the British were really nice guys during that time or something? British colonies weren't some happy fun camps where the indigenous population thrived. The English were by all account "bad guys" throughout early history, unless exploitation for self benefit is ok all of a sudden.

If by indigenous population, you mean the Native Americans, almost all fought on the side of the British, not the Colonists. If you are talking about the white population of the colonies, it's worth pointing out that Canada was more than willing to stay with the crow for another century while in the 13 Colonies, estimates of the size of the Loyalist population is around a third of the total population.

Seriously, it's not like the Revolutionary War suddenly altered people on a genetic level and deleted their upbringing. They were, just a few years earlier, largely loyal subjects of the crown. So if the English were right bastards, then...well it's not exactly six degrees of separation here.

I'm referring to the fact that this will be a video game where there will be a good and a bad side. AC Revelations had very clearly defined good and bad guys despite neither party being completely guilt free in historical context. So people saying "I hope the British aren't portrayed as bad guys here that's bullshit!" are strange to me because that's exactly how I'd imagine it would pan out. From the American standpoint the colonists were the "good guys" that splintered off from the crown. Of course the term "Americans" is largely symbolical at that point in time since as you mention they were loyal British born and bred subjects. Since we are slowly moving towards the present and Desmond is American that just leads me to naturally assume the game would have you play as a third party, as the series always had, lending a helping hand to the colonists.

I'd assume the badguys are the Templars and their knowing or unknowing minions and accomplices. Given they pretty much own the US by the time of Desmond, I'd be just as likely be inclined to believe that the TEMPLARS are running the secessionist train to establish a completely independent political body.

Given what all the released artwork of the game are like thus far, I'd say the protagonist being on the side of the colonists is pretty much guaranteed.

I'm just going by this one here

http://www.joystiq.com/screenshots/assassins-creed-3/4863676/#/3

Blue and Gold being an established color scheme for the Continental Army. Whereas the Brits, well you know...

Now maybe that guy is a traitor, spy, or about to be saved, but he looks not long for this world.

EDIT - Maybe a Hessian, though. The exact cut is beyond my knowledge of the times.

WHAT IS THIS MESSY NEST OF QUOTES FUUUCK

WE NEED TO GO DEEPER!!

Going Deeper

I can't see my original post anymore!

It's like were diving into our ancestors' posting memories.

Have we now achieved "deep"? So deep? So deep it coincided with putting a farm animal to sleep?

@MarkWahlberg said:

@talideon said:

@MarkWahlberg said:

Benedict Arnold is a Templar, Paul Rivere is an Assassin, Benjamin Franklin designs your gadgets and the Boston Tea Party was just a distraction for what *really* happened.

Nah, Arnold ought to be an Assassin given how history (and his opponents at the time) crapped all over him continuously. He ought to be portrayed as an Assassin who either gets suckered by the Templars into switching sides or he discovers dangerous Templar influence in the American forces, which makes him switch sides in spite of the negative consequences for him. That's be far more complex and interesting that his straight-up demonisation.

But having him be evil - or at least constantly exasperated by the good guys - would be funnier? I dunno, I was going more for what I expect out of this than what I'd actually like to happen.

Far from it. I'd like to see him portrayed as a three-dimensional character rather than the usual two-dimensional villain he's usually portrayed as. That would be much more interesting. He could end up being an interesting tragic character. There are at least two excellent potential Templar characters that could be used to set up his downfall: Benedict's wife and Horatio Gates.

I don't think Arnold will end up being portrayed as either a Templar or an Assassin myself, though I think it's more likely that, given AC lore to date, he'd be portrayed as an Assassin. Given his history, Ubisoft Montreal would be squandering an excellent character if he was portrayed simplistically.

Finally we are leaving Ezio behind and exploring a new character and time period. I have little doubt that there will be "villians" on both sides and I am looking forward to how this will play out.

@talideon said:

Far from it. I'd like to see him portrayed as a three-dimensional character rather than the usual two-dimensional villain he's usually portrayed as. That would be much more interesting. He could end up being an interesting tragic character. There are at least two excellent potential Templar characters that could be used to set up his downfall: Benedict's wife and Horatio Gates.

The odd part about this, is that I can't think of a single portrayal of him, period. This is a period that is covered to death in elementary school (especially if you go to school in one of the original colonies), so everyone grows up feeling like this stuff is old and boring, but as far as fictional tellings of colonial America, there's Mel Gibson, and that one HBO thing nobody saw. That's about it. Anything else is like, 50 year year old TV specials and children's books. Sure, everyone knows the basic story beats of the Revolution, and everyone knows his name means 'traitor', but the simple act of making a video game about the Revolution means they're not doing any 'same old tired story'. If they want to make him a two dimensional asshole (and let's face it, AC isn't exactly renowned for its character development) I'm oddly ok with that. Yes, it would absolutely be way more interesting to make him on the 'good' side, but just the idea of a game that has all the craziness that was the Revolution in it, Arnold included, is enough for me.

Assuming, that is, that he's even in the game to begin with.

@Humanity said:

@MindOST said:

@Brockly46 said:

@Rotnac said:

@envane said:

@huser said:

@Turambar said:

@huser said:

@Humanity said:

@huser

@Turambar said:

@Humanity said:

@MindOST

Like most people, I just hope they don't go the easy route and make the British the "Bad Guys" and the revolutionaries the "Good Guys."

I don't see why they wouldn't do that. Do people really think the British were really nice guys during that time or something? British colonies weren't some happy fun camps where the indigenous population thrived. The English were by all account "bad guys" throughout early history, unless exploitation for self benefit is ok all of a sudden.

If by indigenous population, you mean the Native Americans, almost all fought on the side of the British, not the Colonists. If you are talking about the white population of the colonies, it's worth pointing out that Canada was more than willing to stay with the crow for another century while in the 13 Colonies, estimates of the size of the Loyalist population is around a third of the total population.

Seriously, it's not like the Revolutionary War suddenly altered people on a genetic level and deleted their upbringing. They were, just a few years earlier, largely loyal subjects of the crown. So if the English were right bastards, then...well it's not exactly six degrees of separation here.

I'm referring to the fact that this will be a video game where there will be a good and a bad side. AC Revelations had very clearly defined good and bad guys despite neither party being completely guilt free in historical context. So people saying "I hope the British aren't portrayed as bad guys here that's bullshit!" are strange to me because that's exactly how I'd imagine it would pan out. From the American standpoint the colonists were the "good guys" that splintered off from the crown. Of course the term "Americans" is largely symbolical at that point in time since as you mention they were loyal British born and bred subjects. Since we are slowly moving towards the present and Desmond is American that just leads me to naturally assume the game would have you play as a third party, as the series always had, lending a helping hand to the colonists.

I'd assume the badguys are the Templars and their knowing or unknowing minions and accomplices. Given they pretty much own the US by the time of Desmond, I'd be just as likely be inclined to believe that the TEMPLARS are running the secessionist train to establish a completely independent political body.

Given what all the released artwork of the game are like thus far, I'd say the protagonist being on the side of the colonists is pretty much guaranteed.

I'm just going by this one here

http://www.joystiq.com/screenshots/assassins-creed-3/4863676/#/3

Blue and Gold being an established color scheme for the Continental Army. Whereas the Brits, well you know...

Now maybe that guy is a traitor, spy, or about to be saved, but he looks not long for this world.

EDIT - Maybe a Hessian, though. The exact cut is beyond my knowledge of the times.

WHAT IS THIS MESSY NEST OF QUOTES FUUUCK

WE NEED TO GO DEEPER!!

Going Deeper

I can't see my original post anymore!

It's like were diving into our ancestors' posting memories.

Have we now achieved "deep"? So deep? So deep it coincided with putting a farm animal to sleep?

@AhmadMetallic said:

@huser said:

@Humanity said:

@MindOST said:

@Brockly46 said:

@Rotnac said:

@envane said:

@huser said:

@Turambar said:

@huser said:

@Humanity said:

@huser

@Turambar said:

@Humanity said:

@MindOST

Like most people, I just hope they don't go the easy route and make the British the "Bad Guys" and the revolutionaries the "Good Guys."

I don't see why they wouldn't do that. Do people really think the British were really nice guys during that time or something? British colonies weren't some happy fun camps where the indigenous population thrived. The English were by all account "bad guys" throughout early history, unless exploitation for self benefit is ok all of a sudden.

If by indigenous population, you mean the Native Americans, almost all fought on the side of the British, not the Colonists. If you are talking about the white population of the colonies, it's worth pointing out that Canada was more than willing to stay with the crow for another century while in the 13 Colonies, estimates of the size of the Loyalist population is around a third of the total population.

Seriously, it's not like the Revolutionary War suddenly altered people on a genetic level and deleted their upbringing. They were, just a few years earlier, largely loyal subjects of the crown. So if the English were right bastards, then...well it's not exactly six degrees of separation here.

I'm referring to the fact that this will be a video game where there will be a good and a bad side. AC Revelations had very clearly defined good and bad guys despite neither party being completely guilt free in historical context. So people saying "I hope the British aren't portrayed as bad guys here that's bullshit!" are strange to me because that's exactly how I'd imagine it would pan out. From the American standpoint the colonists were the "good guys" that splintered off from the crown. Of course the term "Americans" is largely symbolical at that point in time since as you mention they were loyal British born and bred subjects. Since we are slowly moving towards the present and Desmond is American that just leads me to naturally assume the game would have you play as a third party, as the series always had, lending a helping hand to the colonists.

I'd assume the badguys are the Templars and their knowing or unknowing minions and accomplices. Given they pretty much own the US by the time of Desmond, I'd be just as likely be inclined to believe that the TEMPLARS are running the secessionist train to establish a completely independent political body.

Given what all the released artwork of the game are like thus far, I'd say the protagonist being on the side of the colonists is pretty much guaranteed.

I'm just going by this one here

http://www.joystiq.com/screenshots/assassins-creed-3/4863676/#/3

Blue and Gold being an established color scheme for the Continental Army. Whereas the Brits, well you know...

Now maybe that guy is a traitor, spy, or about to be saved, but he looks not long for this world.

EDIT - Maybe a Hessian, though. The exact cut is beyond my knowledge of the times.

WHAT IS THIS MESSY NEST OF QUOTES FUUUCK

WE NEED TO GO DEEPER!!

Going Deeper

I can't see my original post anymore!

It's like were diving into our ancestors' posting memories.

Have we now achieved "deep"? So deep? So deep it coincided with putting a farm animal to sleep?

Am I doing it right?

Is this like when you look into a mirror and see the mirror you're looking into and it keeps repeating? Are we repeating yet?

But seriously... Yankee-fied AssCreed!? No... please no.

@spudbyte said:

@AhmadMetallic said:

@huser said:

@Humanity said:

@MindOST said:

@Brockly46 said:

@Rotnac said:

@envane said:

@huser said:

@Turambar said:

@huser said:

@Humanity said:

@huser

@Turambar said:

@Humanity said:

@MindOST

Like most people, I just hope they don't go the easy route and make the British the "Bad Guys" and the revolutionaries the "Good Guys."

I don't see why they wouldn't do that. Do people really think the British were really nice guys during that time or something? British colonies weren't some happy fun camps where the indigenous population thrived. The English were by all account "bad guys" throughout early history, unless exploitation for self benefit is ok all of a sudden.

If by indigenous population, you mean the Native Americans, almost all fought on the side of the British, not the Colonists. If you are talking about the white population of the colonies, it's worth pointing out that Canada was more than willing to stay with the crow for another century while in the 13 Colonies, estimates of the size of the Loyalist population is around a third of the total population.

Seriously, it's not like the Revolutionary War suddenly altered people on a genetic level and deleted their upbringing. They were, just a few years earlier, largely loyal subjects of the crown. So if the English were right bastards, then...well it's not exactly six degrees of separation here.

I'm referring to the fact that this will be a video game where there will be a good and a bad side. AC Revelations had very clearly defined good and bad guys despite neither party being completely guilt free in historical context. So people saying "I hope the British aren't portrayed as bad guys here that's bullshit!" are strange to me because that's exactly how I'd imagine it would pan out. From the American standpoint the colonists were the "good guys" that splintered off from the crown. Of course the term "Americans" is largely symbolical at that point in time since as you mention they were loyal British born and bred subjects. Since we are slowly moving towards the present and Desmond is American that just leads me to naturally assume the game would have you play as a third party, as the series always had, lending a helping hand to the colonists.

I'd assume the badguys are the Templars and their knowing or unknowing minions and accomplices. Given they pretty much own the US by the time of Desmond, I'd be just as likely be inclined to believe that the TEMPLARS are running the secessionist train to establish a completely independent political body.

Given what all the released artwork of the game are like thus far, I'd say the protagonist being on the side of the colonists is pretty much guaranteed.

I'm just going by this one here

http://www.joystiq.com/screenshots/assassins-creed-3/4863676/#/3

Blue and Gold being an established color scheme for the Continental Army. Whereas the Brits, well you know...

Now maybe that guy is a traitor, spy, or about to be saved, but he looks not long for this world.

EDIT - Maybe a Hessian, though. The exact cut is beyond my knowledge of the times.

WHAT IS THIS MESSY NEST OF QUOTES FUUUCK

WE NEED TO GO DEEPER!!

Going Deeper

I can't see my original post anymore!

It's like were diving into our ancestors' posting memories.

Have we now achieved "deep"? So deep? So deep it coincided with putting a farm animal to sleep?

Am I doing it right?

Is this like when you look into a mirror and see the mirror you're looking into and it keeps repeating? Are we repeating yet?

No someone needs to start repeating their previous posts for that to work I Thinks.

Also do you think the English audience for this game is gonna be a little put off by the overly pro American message this game is touting.

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Like most people, I just hope they don't go the easy route and make the British the "Bad Guys" and the revolutionaries the "Good Guys."

I don't see why they wouldn't do that. Do people really think the British were really nice guys during that time or something? British colonies weren't some happy fun camps where the indigenous population thrived. The English were by all account "bad guys" throughout early history, unless exploitation for self benefit is ok all of a sudden.

If by indigenous population, you mean the Native Americans, almost all fought on the side of the British, not the Colonists. If you are talking about the white population of the colonies, it's worth pointing out that Canada was more than willing to stay with the crow for another century while in the 13 Colonies, estimates of the size of the Loyalist population is around a third of the total population.

Seriously, it's not like the Revolutionary War suddenly altered people on a genetic level and deleted their upbringing. They were, just a few years earlier, largely loyal subjects of the crown. So if the English were right bastards, then...well it's not exactly six degrees of separation here.

I'm referring to the fact that this will be a video game where there will be a good and a bad side. AC Revelations had very clearly defined good and bad guys despite neither party being completely guilt free in historical context. So people saying "I hope the British aren't portrayed as bad guys here that's bullshit!" are strange to me because that's exactly how I'd imagine it would pan out. From the American standpoint the colonists were the "good guys" that splintered off from the crown. Of course the term "Americans" is largely symbolical at that point in time since as you mention they were loyal British born and bred subjects. Since we are slowly moving towards the present and Desmond is American that just leads me to naturally assume the game would have you play as a third party, as the series always had, lending a helping hand to the colonists.

I'd assume the badguys are the Templars and their knowing or unknowing minions and accomplices. Given they pretty much own the US by the time of Desmond, I'd be just as likely be inclined to believe that the TEMPLARS are running the secessionist train to establish a completely independent political body.

Given what all the released artwork of the game are like thus far, I'd say the protagonist being on the side of the colonists is pretty much guaranteed.

I'm just going by this one here

http://www.joystiq.com/screenshots/assassins-creed-3/4863676/#/3

Blue and Gold being an established color scheme for the Continental Army. Whereas the Brits, well you know...

Now maybe that guy is a traitor, spy, or about to be saved, but he looks not long for this world.

EDIT - Maybe a Hessian, though. The exact cut is beyond my knowledge of the times.

WHAT IS THIS MESSY NEST OF QUOTES FUUUCK

WE NEED TO GO DEEPER!!

Going Deeper

I can't see my original post anymore!

It's like were diving into our ancestors' posting memories.

Have we now achieved "deep"? So deep? So deep it coincided with putting a farm animal to sleep?

Am I doing it right?

Is this like when you look into a mirror and see the mirror you're looking into and it keeps repeating? Are we repeating yet?

No someone needs to start repeating their previous posts for that to work I Thinks.

Also do you think the English audience for this game is gonna be a little put off by the overly pro American message this game is touting.

I'll start the process of repeating posts and say it's set during the Revolutionary War so there is no other tone it could have. I guess the English will see what the Germans felt like during all those WWII first person shooters.

@Cyrisaurus: lol yeah, totally. imagine Desmond with a ridiculous Russian accent. i could see it "dis is how we deal with people we hate in Russia" commence epic mid air assassination.

No hidden blade, that is bad, this is more read dead redemptiom, i wanted egypt or russia.

Excited for this one! Pre-ordered today.