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Valve Confirms New Counter-Strike for PC and...Consoles?

He's baaaaaaaack.

First artwork for the new Counter-Strike game, coming in early 2012 to PC, Mac, consoles.

Instead of finally announcing Half-Life 3, Valve has confirmed suspicions something was up with the Counter-Strike franchise the studio has left alone for a few years now.

Counter-Strike: Global Offensive is a brand-new installment being developed in conjunction with Hidden Path Entertainment, the developers behind Defense Grid.

It's been 12 years since Counter-Strike first burst onto the scene as a Half-Life mod, but it returns early next year on PC, Mac, Xbox Live Arcade and PlayStation Network (yes, consoles--cue the angry PC crowd!).

If you're at the Penny Arcade Expo later this month, though, you'll get to play it far ahead of release.

Valve hasn't released any screen shots of the game yet, only the logo. The studio said Counter-Strike: Global Offensive will feature "new maps, characters, and weapons," "updated versions of the classic CS content (de_dust, etc.)," and "new gameplay modes, matchmaking, leader boards, and more."

A downloadable shooter from Valve? Count us in.

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Posted by Solemn

Sounds great but where the fuck is Episode 3?

Posted by markusespar

This has Battlefield 1943 written all over it, in the best possible way.  I doubt it'll generate a PSN/XBLA following that'll last more than a few months, but I'm always eager for Valve to give me an excuse to indulge another short-lived CS kick.

Posted by TonicBH
@TPoppaPuff said:
@kyrieee: 
 
And I hope for half of those years you haven't been wasting on CSS. That game is garbage compared to the real CS.
 
You played CSS recently? It seems to suck less than it was before. Plus elitist 1.6 jackasses are lame and stupid.
Posted by Deusoma
@TonicBH said:
Plus elitist <anything> jackasses are lame and stupid.
I'm not very in tune with online lingo, but I believe the appropriate joke is "fixed".
Posted by Rawrz

Sounds cool. Cant say ive ever been a big PC person so I never really got into Counter-Strike though I did have some fun with that xbox version which I guess was crap but meh, I found some enjoyment out of it. Ill be down for some CS on Live Arcade.

Posted by Vigorousjammer

@cassus: what you need are some good indie games, sir...

Posted by Moonshadow101

@Rolyatkcinmai: CS and CSS only top the charts if you only look at steam's numbers. WoW and several other games beat them in a more complete look.

Posted by JoyfullOFrockets

I'd happily pay for it if came with something that is Half-Life with a 3 in it.

Edited by TPoppaPuff

@TonicBH:        


It's been a year and a half, maybe two years since I last played. I hated it. I always scoffed at those who kept complaining about CSS as well. Then I bought it back in 2006 and played a couple weeks worth in game time over a couple years. I understand why they complained even after all the gameplay updates. The hit detection is just off and the gunplay just doesn't feel as tight as it is in the original. It's a sad imitation. CS 1.5/1.6 is still the best multiplayer game ever IMHO and I can't even bring myself to play CSS, so something must be wrong with the game. Disappointing to say the least. In CSS if I'm happy it's despite the game and when I'm frustrated it's because of the game mechanics and hit detection. In CS 1.6, I'm happy with myself and feel a sense of actual accomplishment when pulling off something sweet. And when I'm frustrated at the game it's directed at myself or my enemies or bad luck; not at the game itself. That might not sound like a big discrepency, but it completely is the difference between a merely good game and a fantastic game.

Posted by Lotus

I think of norway, everytime i see that picture now, fuck... anyways, more fps plz, no wait.

Posted by SgtGrumbles

@Phonics said:

WOOO!!!! Turn Counter-Strike to another dumbed down slow shitfest FPS for the console mouthbreathers. If you think this won't be another snail-pace aim-assist ironsights shit console FPS guess again. You can't play a game like Quake or Counter-Strike on pads. Way to rape a classic Valve!

Phew, reading the comments I was starting to think there wouldn't be a stupid overreaction. I'm glad internet balance was restored.

Posted by lhaymehr

Cue the Klepek troll

Posted by Tebbit

@NeverDave said:

@Phonics said:

WOOO!!!! Turn Counter-Strike to another dumbed down slow shitfest FPS for the console mouthbreathers. If you think this won't be another snail-pace aim-assist ironsights shit console FPS guess again. You can't play a game like Quake or Counter-Strike on pads. Way to rape a classic Valve!

Phew, reading the comments I was starting to think there wouldn't be a stupid overreaction. I'm glad internet balance was restored.

I was about to say something faux-disparaging and restore internet balance, but now I see that I don't have to! This guy copied my argument, word for word. Except I said "jokes" at the end.

Edited by dcgc

I've already got CS 1.6 or CS:S. I don't need another CS Game. What I really need is HL:EP3.

Posted by kagekage

Hopefully, this game doesn't follow the Crysis 2 path.... 
Now THAT was incredibly dumbed down.

Posted by bill

why would i be mad that it will be on consoles too?

Edited by NobodyHIFI

hopefully CS GO fairs better than the PSP GO 
 
AMIRIGHT!??!?!?!
Edited by JEC03
@kagekage said:

Hopefully, this game doesn't follow the Crysis 2 path.... Now THAT was incredibly dumbed down.

Don't forget FEAR 2 one of the worst sequels in the history of gaming they took everything that was good about the first game and got rid of it and dumbed it down times a million such a shame.
Posted by Kraznor

I played crazy amounts of CS:Source six years ago. Definitely be up for this.

Posted by dozerking

" (yes, consoles--cue the angry PC crowd!)." -Klepek 
 
Chill Klepek. So long CS:GO PC's Version is done properly for the platform, which we all know it will with Valve, it won't be an issue. Either way, nothing wrong with getting ticked off when a franchise goes multiplat and disregards someone's platform of choice.  

Posted by TonicBH
@TPoppaPuff: Well, Hidden Path's been changing up the game significantly for the past year or so, you should give it another try.
Posted by The_Moose

good stuff!

Posted by sins_of_mosin

Uh, believe its not a whole new game, just a updated version with new maps blah blah.  Wish they use some of their 'rep' to create a new AAA game that everyone thinks they can do.

Posted by Belonpopo

I'll buy it on Xbox.

Edited by joachimo

New weapons? dear god, we dont need new weapons - just reskin 1.6 and put in matchmaking and leaderboards with some achievements and u are golden.

Edit: And do not, i repeat, DO NOT put hats in..

Posted by BoG

Well, even though every CS game post original has been less than stellar, I'll totally be buying this. I really can't resist.
Posted by CylonAndrew

Half Life Episode 3 please?

Edited by kyrieee
@TPoppaPuff said:

@kyrieee: 
 
You need to get better on a controller and at least try them. That way your garbage-ass complaints have at least a shred of credibility.  And no shit you would or should win in most cases like that; especially in CS 1.6 which is the only game that has that level of precision.  
 
I don't even know where to begin with the silly-logic that you can't have basic recoil with a gamepad. The consistency of holding the stick at an exact spot without having to reset your hand means you can have MORE recoil than a kb+m. If you have consistent recoil in any sustained direction for a period of time you must drag the mouse to offset the recoil and eventually a mouse runs out of real estate and you must recenter your hand on the mouse pad.  As soon as you try to reset, the controller is instantly better equipped at handling recoil. And you can have a ton of accuracy at medium range, you the player just have to be mildly decent.  If that's a problem for you that's too bad, but don't pretend your own incompetence is a reflection of the gaming community as a whole. And the level of accuracy is possible, it's just a matter of the speed in which you can reach that accuracy.  Obviously nobody's arguing that controllers are as easy or intuitive or as responsive in relation to acquiring targets as a mouse is. That doesn't mean that CS is going to be "dumbed down" or "streamlined" for consoles. The accuracy and precision, or in this case since it's a CSS update the lack thereof, will be just the same as it will always (not) be for CSGO as it is(n't) for CSS on PC. If any of the hitboxes were to change for the consoles it would be the first time that they resized the hitboxes because of consoles.  And I hope for half of those years you haven't been wasting on CSS. That game is garbage compared to the real CS.

Good luck headshotting someone in CT-spawn from B on Dust2, that's medium range. At that distance a head is only a few pixels big. No you don't have infinite time to get that accurate because people don't stand around forever, so the time it takes does matter. If you can't hit someone within 2 seconds you can't hit them. That's the thing about CS, it's not CoD where you can just point in someone's general direction and hold down fire, it's about precise aiming. Console shooters use aim assist to make up for the last bit of aiming you need to do, but in CS that last bit of aiming is where all the skill lies. Aim assist just makes it pointless. And of course I don't fucking play CSS
Posted by TPoppaPuff
@kyrieee
 
If it takes you two seconds in anything in a shooter, you already lost, regardless of platform.
Posted by CitizenJP

I can die happy now.

Posted by Cessate
@Buckfitches said:

Excited!

Now everyone can move on from Team Fortress 2, thank god.

You act as if TF2 is a bad thing.
Posted by IIChristian89II

Herr derr PC Iz da baestesest  herr derr !!

Posted by Winternet

C.S. 1.6 HD Remix would be so much better!

Posted by AssInAss
@joachimo said:

New weapons? dear god, we dont need new weapons - just reskin 1.6 and put in matchmaking and leaderboards with some achievements and u are golden.

Edit: And do not, i repeat, DO NOT put hats in..

This is not a HD remake.
Posted by joachimo

@AssInAss said:

@joachimo said:

New weapons? dear god, we dont need new weapons - just reskin 1.6 and put in matchmaking and leaderboards with some achievements and u are golden.

Edit: And do not, i repeat, DO NOT put hats in..

This is not a HD remake.

Yeah I realize that, I guess I'm just a cynical brat - also I want episode 3.

Posted by EXCellR8

Ugh, please be bundled with Half-Life 3... or something I don't even care if it's a trailer.

Posted by StepwiseDuchess

Childhood memories coming to mind of blowing people's heads open!

Posted by Makoto_Mizuhara_Sakamoto

Ahh... good ol' Counter-Strike- NOW WITH MORE HATS!!!

Posted by foxhound421

Any word on Steam integration (a la Portal 2) on PS3?

Edited by Cubical
Posted by TheLeamenator
@Cubical: Calm down, PC nerd. Shit.
Edited by Cubical

@kyrieee :    
 
@kyrieee said:

@TPoppaPuff said:

@kyrieee: 
 
You need to get better on a controller and at least try them. That way your garbage-ass complaints have at least a shred of credibility.  And no shit you would or should win in most cases like that; especially in CS 1.6 which is the only game that has that level of precision.  
 
I don't even know where to begin with the silly-logic that you can't have basic recoil with a gamepad. The consistency of holding the stick at an exact spot without having to reset your hand means you can have MORE recoil than a kb+m. If you have consistent recoil in any sustained direction for a period of time you must drag the mouse to offset the recoil and eventually a mouse runs out of real estate and you must recenter your hand on the mouse pad.  As soon as you try to reset, the controller is instantly better equipped at handling recoil. And you can have a ton of accuracy at medium range, you the player just have to be mildly decent.  If that's a problem for you that's too bad, but don't pretend your own incompetence is a reflection of the gaming community as a whole. And the level of accuracy is possible, it's just a matter of the speed in which you can reach that accuracy.  Obviously nobody's arguing that controllers are as easy or intuitive or as responsive in relation to acquiring targets as a mouse is. That doesn't mean that CS is going to be "dumbed down" or "streamlined" for consoles. The accuracy and precision, or in this case since it's a CSS update the lack thereof, will be just the same as it will always (not) be for CSGO as it is(n't) for CSS on PC. If any of the hitboxes were to change for the consoles it would be the first time that they resized the hitboxes because of consoles.  And I hope for half of those years you haven't been wasting on CSS. That game is garbage compared to the real CS.

Good luck headshotting someone in CT-spawn from B on Dust2, that's medium range. At that distance a head is only a few pixels big. No you don't have infinite time to get that accurate because people don't stand around forever, so the time it takes does matter. If you can't hit someone within 2 seconds you can't hit them. That's the thing about CS, it's not CoD where you can just point in someone's general direction and hold down fire, it's about precise aiming. Console shooters use aim assist to make up for the last bit of aiming you need to do, but in CS that last bit of aiming is where all the skill lies. Aim assist just makes it pointless. And of course I don't fucking play CSS

OHh and that  TPoppaPuff   dude has never been with in 50 miles of a real game PC to use a mouse because it is obvious like most console noobs he has no fucking clue the game auto aims for him and the games have hit boxes on the characters the size of Fat cows.  

 Most of the Console noobs have only touched a Walmart special PC or the crap netbooks they use to get on the internet and it has a crap intel GPU passed onto the motherboard and they could not a run a game to save there life on it and they pretend the game plays the same it does fucking not period.
 
I have a fucking xbox 360 wii and a ps3 the fucking things are so cheep I can go out and shake a tree and they will fall out like free apples  ( Check my fucking profile I got Xbox 360  achievements   in it!)   I can say what ever the fuck I want about xbox 360 ps3 or the fucking wii I have one I know what it is like, when you get a fucking real pc and play fucking games on it then you console noobs can start acting like you know what it is like until then it's just laughable at what you people say.
 
and using a controller sucks balls and the precision is not fucking there why do you think it sucks so fucking much to move that arrow around on the ps3 web browser with a controller analog stick?  it is not capable of doing it that is fucking why    a fucking mouse has tons more tracking X and Y points than that fucking analog stick.

So watching them pretend act like they know what using a mouse on a real Decent PC is like is fucking hilarious or what a PC game is even fucking like because they never even fucking been near it. 


Even the fucking wii pointer and ps3 move Is better at tracking than the fucking controller analog stick.

Posted by blueduck
@Cubical said:

@kyrieee :    
 
@kyrieee said:

@TPoppaPuff said:

@kyrieee: 
 
You need to get better on a controller and at least try them. That way your garbage-ass complaints have at least a shred of credibility.  And no shit you would or should win in most cases like that; especially in CS 1.6 which is the only game that has that level of precision.  
 
I don't even know where to begin with the silly-logic that you can't have basic recoil with a gamepad. The consistency of holding the stick at an exact spot without having to reset your hand means you can have MORE recoil than a kb+m. If you have consistent recoil in any sustained direction for a period of time you must drag the mouse to offset the recoil and eventually a mouse runs out of real estate and you must recenter your hand on the mouse pad.  As soon as you try to reset, the controller is instantly better equipped at handling recoil. And you can have a ton of accuracy at medium range, you the player just have to be mildly decent.  If that's a problem for you that's too bad, but don't pretend your own incompetence is a reflection of the gaming community as a whole. And the level of accuracy is possible, it's just a matter of the speed in which you can reach that accuracy.  Obviously nobody's arguing that controllers are as easy or intuitive or as responsive in relation to acquiring targets as a mouse is. That doesn't mean that CS is going to be "dumbed down" or "streamlined" for consoles. The accuracy and precision, or in this case since it's a CSS update the lack thereof, will be just the same as it will always (not) be for CSGO as it is(n't) for CSS on PC. If any of the hitboxes were to change for the consoles it would be the first time that they resized the hitboxes because of consoles.  And I hope for half of those years you haven't been wasting on CSS. That game is garbage compared to the real CS.

Good luck headshotting someone in CT-spawn from B on Dust2, that's medium range. At that distance a head is only a few pixels big. No you don't have infinite time to get that accurate because people don't stand around forever, so the time it takes does matter. If you can't hit someone within 2 seconds you can't hit them. That's the thing about CS, it's not CoD where you can just point in someone's general direction and hold down fire, it's about precise aiming. Console shooters use aim assist to make up for the last bit of aiming you need to do, but in CS that last bit of aiming is where all the skill lies. Aim assist just makes it pointless. And of course I don't fucking play CSS

OHh and that  TPoppaPuff   dude has never been with in 50 miles of a real game PC to use a mouse because it is obvious like most console noobs he has no fucking clue the game auto aims for him and the games have hit boxes on the characters the size of Fat cows.  

 Most of the Console noobs have only touched a Walmart special PC or the crap netbooks they use to get on the internet and it has a crap intel GPU passed onto the motherboard and they could not a run a game to save there life on it and they pretend the game plays the same it does fucking not period.
 
I have a fucking xbox 360 wii and a ps3 the fucking things are so cheep I can go out and shake a tree and they will fall out like free apples  ( Check my fucking profile I got Xbox 360  achievements   in it!)   I can say what ever the fuck I want about xbox 360 ps3 or the fucking wii I have one I know what it is like, when you get a fucking real pc and play fucking games on it then you console noobs can start acting like you know what it is like until then it's just laughable at what you people say.
 
and using a controller sucks balls and the precision is not fucking there why do you think it sucks so fucking much to move that arrow around on the ps3 web browser with a controller analog stick?  it is not capable of doing it that is fucking why    a fucking mouse has tons more tracking X and Y points than that fucking analog stick.

So watching them pretend act like they know what using a mouse on a real Decent PC is like is fucking hilarious or what a PC game is even fucking because they never even fucking been near it. 


Even the fucking wii pointer and ps3 movie Is better at tracking than the fucking controller analog stick.

You say fuck a lot but I pretty much agree. FPS (like RTS) really shouldn't be on consoles for anymore than casual play. The sheer amount of auto aim needed to make analog sticks usable should make this obvious. If console fps players really want to see how much auto aim is in their games put in a copy of halo 2 and try to aim and kill a teammate.
Posted by Novacain

It would be nice if for once this shit did not devolve into relentless semantics about personal superiority complexes, but I guess that is unlikely with the amount of venom people have about how other people, who are totally unrelated and different from one another, enjoy their media entertainment.

Edited by TPoppaPuff
@Cubical said:


               

@kyrieee :    

 

@kyrieee

said:


@TPoppaPuff

said:



                    @kyrieee: 
 
You need to get better on a controller and at least try them. That way your garbage-ass complaints have at least a shred of credibility.  And no shit you would or should win in most cases like that; especially in CS 1.6 which is the only game that has that level of precision.  
 
I don't even know where to begin with the silly-logic that you can't have basic recoil with a gamepad. The consistency of holding the stick at an exact spot without having to reset your hand means you can have MORE recoil than a kb+m. If you have consistent recoil in any sustained direction for a period of time you must drag the mouse to offset the recoil and eventually a mouse runs out of real estate and you must recenter your hand on the mouse pad.  As soon as you try to reset, the controller is instantly better equipped at handling recoil. And you can have a ton of accuracy at medium range, you the player just have to be mildly decent.  If that's a problem for you that's too bad, but don't pretend your own incompetence is a reflection of the gaming community as a whole. And the level of accuracy is possible, it's just a matter of the speed in which you can reach that accuracy.  Obviously nobody's arguing that controllers are as easy or intuitive or as responsive in relation to acquiring targets as a mouse is. That doesn't mean that CS is going to be "dumbed down" or "streamlined" for consoles. The accuracy and precision, or in this case since it's a CSS update the lack thereof, will be just the same as it will always (not) be for CSGO as it is(n't) for CSS on PC. If any of the hitboxes were to change for the consoles it would be the first time that they resized the hitboxes because of consoles.  And I hope for half of those years you haven't been wasting on CSS. That game is garbage compared to the real CS.

                   

               

Good luck headshotting someone in CT-spawn from B on Dust2, that's medium range. At that distance a head is only a few pixels big. No you don't have infinite time to get that accurate because people don't stand around forever, so the time it takes does matter. If you can't hit someone within 2 seconds you can't hit them. That's the thing about CS, it's not CoD where you can just point in someone's general direction and hold down fire, it's about precise aiming. Console shooters use aim assist to make up for the last bit of aiming you need to do, but in CS that last bit of aiming is where all the skill lies. Aim assist just makes it pointless. And of course I don't fucking play CSS
           

OHh and that  TPoppaPuff    dude has never been with in 50 miles of a real game PC to use a mouse because it is obvious like most console noobs he has no fucking clue the game auto aims for him and the games have hit boxes on the characters the size of Fat cows.  

   Most of the Console noobs have only touched a Walmart special PC or the crap netbooks they use to get on the internet and it has a crap intel GPU passed onto the motherboard and they could not a run a game to save there life on it and they pretend the game plays the same it does fucking not period.
 
I have a fucking xbox 360 wii and a ps3 the fucking things are so cheep I can go out and shake a tree and they will fall out like free apples  ( Check my fucking profile I got Xbox 360  achievements   in it!)   I can say what ever the fuck I want about xbox 360 ps3 or the fucking wii I have one I know what it is like, when you get a fucking real pc and play fucking games on it then you console noobs can start acting like you know what it is like until then it's just laughable at what you people say.
 
and using a controller sucks balls and the precision is not fucking there why do you think it sucks so fucking much to move that arrow around on the ps3 web browser with a controller analog stick?  it is not capable of doing it that is fucking why    a fucking mouse has tons more tracking X and Y points than that fucking analog stick.

So watching them pretend act like they know what using a mouse on a real Decent PC is like is fucking hilarious or what a PC game is even fucking like because they never even fucking been near it. 


Even the fucking wii pointer and ps3 move Is better at tracking than the fucking controller analog stick.


           

Alright, squirt, are you done talking about things too complicated for you to understand yet? Again, I guess CS doesn't count as a real PC game, nor does TFC, UT2k4, and TF2 as well, right? I guess the fact that I spent like $70 just on my razer means I'm full of crap, right?  I like how your peanut-sized brain is trying to make an argument against statements I made that you simply couldn't comprehend and then claim I'm the dumb one. It's hilarious. Look at it again, tweener. I specifically stated that if the hitboxes were changed for CSGO it would be the first Valve game to change the size of the hitboxes. Have you ever played a Valve game on console? Of course not, you'd rather be wrong and delusional than honest and open to reality. I have HL2 on three different platforms. The hitboxes are guess what? ALL THE DAMN SAME.  Earth-shattering revelation for you I'm sure considering the way you act. 
 
You don't need to own the consoles to say whatever you want about. You can say whatever you want; it's the internet. You still sound like an idiot though.
 
Go measure your epeen somewhere else and at least learn to know what you're arguing against rather than what you misinterpret because of your deep insecurities when it comes to games. It's sad how insecure you are about PC vs. Console gaming, or the fact that you consider it PC vs. Console gaming rather than just PC and Console gaming. Grow up and learn to read.
Posted by Xpgamer7

Here comes the next generation.

Posted by xaLieNxGrEyx
@Phonics said:
@Crushed said:

@Buckfitches said:

Excited!

Now everyone can move on from Team Fortress 2, thank god.

What do Counter Strike and Team Fortress have to do with each other?

@Phonics said:

WOOO!!!! Turn Counter-Strike to another dumbed down slow shitfest FPS for the console mouthbreathers. If you think this won't be another snail-pace aim-assist ironsights shit console FPS guess again. You can't play a game like Quake or Counter-Strike on pads. Way to rape a classic Valve!

Playtesters have already confirmed no aim-assist, ironsights, or regenerating health.

Can you explain how do you play a FPS without aim assist and ironsights on a pad.

 
It's called rainbow six vegas one and two you fucking moron. Stop saying you can't do it, it's not even that hard. Go jerk off with your pc mouse and blow all over your keyboard.
Posted by mithhunter55
@AlwaysBeClothing said:

Gotta continue to rehash the same maps over and over. Then again, that's just what people who are still playing CS are likely to want. We'll see if this turns out.


Well there are so many custom maps its not a problem. Revisiting the old maps in the new game I imagine is a good way to ease in to it. Nice ot see them updated too. CS:S has a fairly large number of deafult maps.  I have barely played them in the last 4 years other, always gungame with me.
Posted by Colonel_Fury

The arguments in the comments here are exceedingly nerdy.

Posted by rockhardalibi

(yes, consoles--cue the angry PC crowd!).


Please, oh please stop this nonsense. Yes there are some vocal A-holez in PC gaming, and maybe more in the counterstrile crowd. But the constant beating I take as a PC prefered guy is getting old. And it seems that a lot of the complaints these dudes have are valid. They express them poorly, but that shouldn't invalidate the entire platform.