Valve Confirms New Counter-Strike for PC and...Consoles?

Sounds great but where the fuck is Episode 3?

This has Battlefield 1943 written all over it, in the best possible way.  I doubt it'll generate a PSN/XBLA following that'll last more than a few months, but I'm always eager for Valve to give me an excuse to indulge another short-lived CS kick.

@kyrieee: 
 
And I hope for half of those years you haven't been wasting on CSS. That game is garbage compared to the real CS.

Plus elitist <anything> jackasses are lame and stupid.

Sounds cool. Cant say ive ever been a big PC person so I never really got into Counter-Strike though I did have some fun with that xbox version which I guess was crap but meh, I found some enjoyment out of it. Ill be down for some CS on Live Arcade.

@cassus: what you need are some good indie games, sir...

@Rolyatkcinmai: CS and CSS only top the charts if you only look at steam's numbers. WoW and several other games beat them in a more complete look.

I'd happily pay for it if came with something that is Half-Life with a 3 in it.

@TonicBH:        

It's been a year and a half, maybe two years since I last played. I hated it. I always scoffed at those who kept complaining about CSS as well. Then I bought it back in 2006 and played a couple weeks worth in game time over a couple years. I understand why they complained even after all the gameplay updates. The hit detection is just off and the gunplay just doesn't feel as tight as it is in the original. It's a sad imitation. CS 1.5/1.6 is still the best multiplayer game ever IMHO and I can't even bring myself to play CSS, so something must be wrong with the game. Disappointing to say the least. In CSS if I'm happy it's despite the game and when I'm frustrated it's because of the game mechanics and hit detection. In CS 1.6, I'm happy with myself and feel a sense of actual accomplishment when pulling off something sweet. And when I'm frustrated at the game it's directed at myself or my enemies or bad luck; not at the game itself. That might not sound like a big discrepency, but it completely is the difference between a merely good game and a fantastic game.

I think of norway, everytime i see that picture now, fuck... anyways, more fps plz, no wait.

@Phonics said:

WOOO!!!! Turn Counter-Strike to another dumbed down slow shitfest FPS for the console mouthbreathers. If you think this won't be another snail-pace aim-assist ironsights shit console FPS guess again. You can't play a game like Quake or Counter-Strike on pads. Way to rape a classic Valve!

Phew, reading the comments I was starting to think there wouldn't be a stupid overreaction. I'm glad internet balance was restored.

Cue the Klepek troll

@NeverDave said:

@Phonics said:

WOOO!!!! Turn Counter-Strike to another dumbed down slow shitfest FPS for the console mouthbreathers. If you think this won't be another snail-pace aim-assist ironsights shit console FPS guess again. You can't play a game like Quake or Counter-Strike on pads. Way to rape a classic Valve!

Phew, reading the comments I was starting to think there wouldn't be a stupid overreaction. I'm glad internet balance was restored.

I was about to say something faux-disparaging and restore internet balance, but now I see that I don't have to! This guy copied my argument, word for word. Except I said "jokes" at the end.

Hopefully, this game doesn't follow the Crysis 2 path.... 
Now THAT was incredibly dumbed down.

why would i be mad that it will be on consoles too?

Hopefully, this game doesn't follow the Crysis 2 path.... Now THAT was incredibly dumbed down.

I played crazy amounts of CS:Source six years ago. Definitely be up for this.

" (yes, consoles--cue the angry PC crowd!)." -Klepek 
 
Chill Klepek. So long CS:GO PC's Version is done properly for the platform, which we all know it will with Valve, it won't be an issue. Either way, nothing wrong with getting ticked off when a franchise goes multiplat and disregards someone's platform of choice.  

good stuff!

Uh, believe its not a whole new game, just a updated version with new maps blah blah.  Wish they use some of their 'rep' to create a new AAA game that everyone thinks they can do.

I'll buy it on Xbox.

Half Life Episode 3 please?

@kyrieee: 
 
You need to get better on a controller and at least try them. That way your garbage-ass complaints have at least a shred of credibility.  And no shit you would or should win in most cases like that; especially in CS 1.6 which is the only game that has that level of precision.  
 
I don't even know where to begin with the silly-logic that you can't have basic recoil with a gamepad. The consistency of holding the stick at an exact spot without having to reset your hand means you can have MORE recoil than a kb+m. If you have consistent recoil in any sustained direction for a period of time you must drag the mouse to offset the recoil and eventually a mouse runs out of real estate and you must recenter your hand on the mouse pad.  As soon as you try to reset, the controller is instantly better equipped at handling recoil. And you can have a ton of accuracy at medium range, you the player just have to be mildly decent.  If that's a problem for you that's too bad, but don't pretend your own incompetence is a reflection of the gaming community as a whole. And the level of accuracy is possible, it's just a matter of the speed in which you can reach that accuracy.  Obviously nobody's arguing that controllers are as easy or intuitive or as responsive in relation to acquiring targets as a mouse is. That doesn't mean that CS is going to be "dumbed down" or "streamlined" for consoles. The accuracy and precision, or in this case since it's a CSS update the lack thereof, will be just the same as it will always (not) be for CSGO as it is(n't) for CSS on PC. If any of the hitboxes were to change for the consoles it would be the first time that they resized the hitboxes because of consoles.  And I hope for half of those years you haven't been wasting on CSS. That game is garbage compared to the real CS.

I can die happy now.

Excited!

Now everyone can move on from Team Fortress 2, thank god.

Herr derr PC Iz da baestesest  herr derr !!

C.S. 1.6 HD Remix would be so much better!

New weapons? dear god, we dont need new weapons - just reskin 1.6 and put in matchmaking and leaderboards with some achievements and u are golden.

Edit: And do not, i repeat, DO NOT put hats in..

Ugh, please be bundled with Half-Life 3... or something I don't even care if it's a trailer.

Childhood memories coming to mind of blowing people's heads open!

Ahh... good ol' Counter-Strike- NOW WITH MORE HATS!!!

Any word on Steam integration (a la Portal 2) on PS3?

@kyrieee :    
 
@kyrieee said:

@TPoppaPuff said:

@kyrieee: 
 
You need to get better on a controller and at least try them. That way your garbage-ass complaints have at least a shred of credibility.  And no shit you would or should win in most cases like that; especially in CS 1.6 which is the only game that has that level of precision.  
 
I don't even know where to begin with the silly-logic that you can't have basic recoil with a gamepad. The consistency of holding the stick at an exact spot without having to reset your hand means you can have MORE recoil than a kb+m. If you have consistent recoil in any sustained direction for a period of time you must drag the mouse to offset the recoil and eventually a mouse runs out of real estate and you must recenter your hand on the mouse pad.  As soon as you try to reset, the controller is instantly better equipped at handling recoil. And you can have a ton of accuracy at medium range, you the player just have to be mildly decent.  If that's a problem for you that's too bad, but don't pretend your own incompetence is a reflection of the gaming community as a whole. And the level of accuracy is possible, it's just a matter of the speed in which you can reach that accuracy.  Obviously nobody's arguing that controllers are as easy or intuitive or as responsive in relation to acquiring targets as a mouse is. That doesn't mean that CS is going to be "dumbed down" or "streamlined" for consoles. The accuracy and precision, or in this case since it's a CSS update the lack thereof, will be just the same as it will always (not) be for CSGO as it is(n't) for CSS on PC. If any of the hitboxes were to change for the consoles it would be the first time that they resized the hitboxes because of consoles.  And I hope for half of those years you haven't been wasting on CSS. That game is garbage compared to the real CS.

Good luck headshotting someone in CT-spawn from B on Dust2, that's medium range. At that distance a head is only a few pixels big. No you don't have infinite time to get that accurate because people don't stand around forever, so the time it takes does matter. If you can't hit someone within 2 seconds you can't hit them. That's the thing about CS, it's not CoD where you can just point in someone's general direction and hold down fire, it's about precise aiming. Console shooters use aim assist to make up for the last bit of aiming you need to do, but in CS that last bit of aiming is where all the skill lies. Aim assist just makes it pointless. And of course I don't fucking play CSS

OHh and that  TPoppaPuff   dude has never been with in 50 miles of a real game PC to use a mouse because it is obvious like most console noobs he has no fucking clue the game auto aims for him and the games have hit boxes on the characters the size of Fat cows.  

 Most of the Console noobs have only touched a Walmart special PC or the crap netbooks they use to get on the internet and it has a crap intel GPU passed onto the motherboard and they could not a run a game to save there life on it and they pretend the game plays the same it does fucking not period.
 
I have a fucking xbox 360 wii and a ps3 the fucking things are so cheep I can go out and shake a tree and they will fall out like free apples  ( Check my fucking profile I got Xbox 360  achievements   in it!)   I can say what ever the fuck I want about xbox 360 ps3 or the fucking wii I have one I know what it is like, when you get a fucking real pc and play fucking games on it then you console noobs can start acting like you know what it is like until then it's just laughable at what you people say.
 
and using a controller sucks balls and the precision is not fucking there why do you think it sucks so fucking much to move that arrow around on the ps3 web browser with a controller analog stick?  it is not capable of doing it that is fucking why    a fucking mouse has tons more tracking X and Y points than that fucking analog stick.

So watching them pretend act like they know what using a mouse on a real Decent PC is like is fucking hilarious or what a PC game is even fucking like because they never even fucking been near it. 

Even the fucking wii pointer and ps3 move Is better at tracking than the fucking controller analog stick.

@kyrieee :    
 
@kyrieee said:

@TPoppaPuff said:

@kyrieee: 
 
You need to get better on a controller and at least try them. That way your garbage-ass complaints have at least a shred of credibility.  And no shit you would or should win in most cases like that; especially in CS 1.6 which is the only game that has that level of precision.  
 
I don't even know where to begin with the silly-logic that you can't have basic recoil with a gamepad. The consistency of holding the stick at an exact spot without having to reset your hand means you can have MORE recoil than a kb+m. If you have consistent recoil in any sustained direction for a period of time you must drag the mouse to offset the recoil and eventually a mouse runs out of real estate and you must recenter your hand on the mouse pad.  As soon as you try to reset, the controller is instantly better equipped at handling recoil. And you can have a ton of accuracy at medium range, you the player just have to be mildly decent.  If that's a problem for you that's too bad, but don't pretend your own incompetence is a reflection of the gaming community as a whole. And the level of accuracy is possible, it's just a matter of the speed in which you can reach that accuracy.  Obviously nobody's arguing that controllers are as easy or intuitive or as responsive in relation to acquiring targets as a mouse is. That doesn't mean that CS is going to be "dumbed down" or "streamlined" for consoles. The accuracy and precision, or in this case since it's a CSS update the lack thereof, will be just the same as it will always (not) be for CSGO as it is(n't) for CSS on PC. If any of the hitboxes were to change for the consoles it would be the first time that they resized the hitboxes because of consoles.  And I hope for half of those years you haven't been wasting on CSS. That game is garbage compared to the real CS.

Good luck headshotting someone in CT-spawn from B on Dust2, that's medium range. At that distance a head is only a few pixels big. No you don't have infinite time to get that accurate because people don't stand around forever, so the time it takes does matter. If you can't hit someone within 2 seconds you can't hit them. That's the thing about CS, it's not CoD where you can just point in someone's general direction and hold down fire, it's about precise aiming. Console shooters use aim assist to make up for the last bit of aiming you need to do, but in CS that last bit of aiming is where all the skill lies. Aim assist just makes it pointless. And of course I don't fucking play CSS

OHh and that  TPoppaPuff   dude has never been with in 50 miles of a real game PC to use a mouse because it is obvious like most console noobs he has no fucking clue the game auto aims for him and the games have hit boxes on the characters the size of Fat cows.  

 Most of the Console noobs have only touched a Walmart special PC or the crap netbooks they use to get on the internet and it has a crap intel GPU passed onto the motherboard and they could not a run a game to save there life on it and they pretend the game plays the same it does fucking not period.
 
I have a fucking xbox 360 wii and a ps3 the fucking things are so cheep I can go out and shake a tree and they will fall out like free apples  ( Check my fucking profile I got Xbox 360  achievements   in it!)   I can say what ever the fuck I want about xbox 360 ps3 or the fucking wii I have one I know what it is like, when you get a fucking real pc and play fucking games on it then you console noobs can start acting like you know what it is like until then it's just laughable at what you people say.
 
and using a controller sucks balls and the precision is not fucking there why do you think it sucks so fucking much to move that arrow around on the ps3 web browser with a controller analog stick?  it is not capable of doing it that is fucking why    a fucking mouse has tons more tracking X and Y points than that fucking analog stick.

So watching them pretend act like they know what using a mouse on a real Decent PC is like is fucking hilarious or what a PC game is even fucking because they never even fucking been near it. 

Even the fucking wii pointer and ps3 movie Is better at tracking than the fucking controller analog stick.

It would be nice if for once this shit did not devolve into relentless semantics about personal superiority complexes, but I guess that is unlikely with the amount of venom people have about how other people, who are totally unrelated and different from one another, enjoy their media entertainment.

               

@kyrieee :    

 

@kyrieee

said:

@TPoppaPuff

said:

                    @kyrieee: 
 
You need to get better on a controller and at least try them. That way your garbage-ass complaints have at least a shred of credibility.  And no shit you would or should win in most cases like that; especially in CS 1.6 which is the only game that has that level of precision.  
 
I don't even know where to begin with the silly-logic that you can't have basic recoil with a gamepad. The consistency of holding the stick at an exact spot without having to reset your hand means you can have MORE recoil than a kb+m. If you have consistent recoil in any sustained direction for a period of time you must drag the mouse to offset the recoil and eventually a mouse runs out of real estate and you must recenter your hand on the mouse pad.  As soon as you try to reset, the controller is instantly better equipped at handling recoil. And you can have a ton of accuracy at medium range, you the player just have to be mildly decent.  If that's a problem for you that's too bad, but don't pretend your own incompetence is a reflection of the gaming community as a whole. And the level of accuracy is possible, it's just a matter of the speed in which you can reach that accuracy.  Obviously nobody's arguing that controllers are as easy or intuitive or as responsive in relation to acquiring targets as a mouse is. That doesn't mean that CS is going to be "dumbed down" or "streamlined" for consoles. The accuracy and precision, or in this case since it's a CSS update the lack thereof, will be just the same as it will always (not) be for CSGO as it is(n't) for CSS on PC. If any of the hitboxes were to change for the consoles it would be the first time that they resized the hitboxes because of consoles.  And I hope for half of those years you haven't been wasting on CSS. That game is garbage compared to the real CS.

                   

               

Good luck headshotting someone in CT-spawn from B on Dust2, that's medium range. At that distance a head is only a few pixels big. No you don't have infinite time to get that accurate because people don't stand around forever, so the time it takes does matter. If you can't hit someone within 2 seconds you can't hit them. That's the thing about CS, it's not CoD where you can just point in someone's general direction and hold down fire, it's about precise aiming. Console shooters use aim assist to make up for the last bit of aiming you need to do, but in CS that last bit of aiming is where all the skill lies. Aim assist just makes it pointless. And of course I don't fucking play CSS
           

OHh and that  TPoppaPuff    dude has never been with in 50 miles of a real game PC to use a mouse because it is obvious like most console noobs he has no fucking clue the game auto aims for him and the games have hit boxes on the characters the size of Fat cows.  

   Most of the Console noobs have only touched a Walmart special PC or the crap netbooks they use to get on the internet and it has a crap intel GPU passed onto the motherboard and they could not a run a game to save there life on it and they pretend the game plays the same it does fucking not period.
 
I have a fucking xbox 360 wii and a ps3 the fucking things are so cheep I can go out and shake a tree and they will fall out like free apples  ( Check my fucking profile I got Xbox 360  achievements   in it!)   I can say what ever the fuck I want about xbox 360 ps3 or the fucking wii I have one I know what it is like, when you get a fucking real pc and play fucking games on it then you console noobs can start acting like you know what it is like until then it's just laughable at what you people say.
 
and using a controller sucks balls and the precision is not fucking there why do you think it sucks so fucking much to move that arrow around on the ps3 web browser with a controller analog stick?  it is not capable of doing it that is fucking why    a fucking mouse has tons more tracking X and Y points than that fucking analog stick.

So watching them pretend act like they know what using a mouse on a real Decent PC is like is fucking hilarious or what a PC game is even fucking like because they never even fucking been near it. 

Even the fucking wii pointer and ps3 move Is better at tracking than the fucking controller analog stick.

           

Here comes the next generation.

@Crushed said:

@Buckfitches said:

Excited!

Now everyone can move on from Team Fortress 2, thank god.

What do Counter Strike and Team Fortress have to do with each other?

@Phonics said:

WOOO!!!! Turn Counter-Strike to another dumbed down slow shitfest FPS for the console mouthbreathers. If you think this won't be another snail-pace aim-assist ironsights shit console FPS guess again. You can't play a game like Quake or Counter-Strike on pads. Way to rape a classic Valve!

Playtesters have already confirmed no aim-assist, ironsights, or regenerating health.

Can you explain how do you play a FPS without aim assist and ironsights on a pad.

Gotta continue to rehash the same maps over and over. Then again, that's just what people who are still playing CS are likely to want. We'll see if this turns out.

The arguments in the comments here are exceedingly nerdy.

(yes, consoles--cue the angry PC crowd!).


Please, oh please stop this nonsense. Yes there are some vocal A-holez in PC gaming, and maybe more in the counterstrile crowd. But the constant beating I take as a PC prefered guy is getting old. And it seems that a lot of the complaints these dudes have are valid. They express them poorly, but that shouldn't invalidate the entire platform.