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Wii U Does Not Play GameCube Games

You'll have to toss those tiny discs into the closet.

You'll be able to play existing (and perhaps forthcoming) Wii games on Nintendo's Wii U hardware, but if you were hoping to play more Super Mario Sunshine, there's bad news to report.

Wii U will not play GameCube games. I learned this and other details I'll share soon about Wii U during a short interview with Mark Franklin, the head of Nintendo's public relations division.

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Brawl for WiiU is junk now!

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@Sevan said:

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So where's the part where Nintendo makes people sell their old systems even though it's established that the new ones will not play those games?   Or are we talking about people who never had the old system, in which case this argument makes no sense?  If people are going to buy games they already have just because they're too lazy to connect another piece of hardware or something, it's pretty funny to put all of the blame on Nintendo for cutting costs.
 when i buy the next xbox, i dont keep my old one. i know very few people who hang onto their old system when they get the next one. The economy is crud, and people like to get that free 30 bucks towards replacing their old system when they trade it in.   And its not always easy for people to dis and reconnect their systems. maybe your entertainment system makes it simple, but what if you only have two wall plugs, and your tv is shoved someplace thats easy to see but hard to get to? Now your struggling to unplugging the power and the A/V. And if you live with multiple people, you would have to do it every time, and someone else would keep changing it back. Your calling people who dont want to be inconvenienced lazy... but tell me you dont get pissed when you loose the remote and have to walk to change the channel.     Nintendo could have easily put that extra gig of software in to allow backwards compatibility and raised the price of the system to compensate( you know, like PS3 version1 and 360 did) . But thats only one extra 30 dollars they can charge. But this way, they can charge +20 bucks a game instead of +30 a system.    Its all about their cockiness. PS3 and 360 HAD to add backwards compatibility to compete with each other. Its would have been stupid for either of them not to. But there is no competition for the Wii U, so they can do what they want and you'll still buy it.   i find it funny you think Nintendo is trying to help you. Cutting cost? no. cutting costs would have been letting you do as much as possible with your system. If you have to buy something else to make up for what was "cut" for pricing... your being sold the chance to spend more money.
I didn't say Nintendo was trying to "help" me.  I said that it cuts costs, plain and simple.  Nintendo has a long track record of cutting corners to keep their hardware costs down, including not having a hard drive (still), the GameCube not playing DVDs, and lower RAM than many people think their systems should have, just to name a few examples.  It's not just about a single thing either.  It's that when they cut MANY small features, they all add up.
 
If you really need $30 that much, I put forth the idea that perhaps buying a new $250+ video game system and some $50 - $60 games might not be the best thing to do with your money.    
 
360's backwards compatibility, as I already stated, does not properly work with every game, and that is just going back ONE generation (which is all there was, obviously), whereas presumably (until it's demonstrated otherwise) the Wii U will play all games of the previous generation.  Sony pulled PS2 backwards compatibility from later versions of their system, and that included software emulation, so I don't even know how anyone can use them as the counter-example.  Apparently all PS3s can still play PS1 games, but not PS2 games, which is far more idiotic on pretty much every level.
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@Grumbel said:

@Forum_User said:

So where's the part where Nintendo makes people sell their old systems even though it's established that the new ones will not play those games?
The point here is that backward compatibility doesn't generate money for Nintendo. People who already have the old system just gain a lot of comfort by backward compatibility, that's no money for Nintendo. People who don't have the old system might end up buying used games, that's not money for Nintendo either. So in essence, the only way to generate money via backward compatibility is when the old system is still alive enough to sell new games for it, which is probably the case with the Wii and certainly not the case with the Gamecube. Thus no backward compatibility, as the only one who would win would be the consumer.
So Nintendo doesn't care about the consumer cus they don't support used games, confirmed. Mindbending logic ITT. 
Turns out if you want to make a dowsing rod for idiots, you don't make a religion thread. Making a Nintendo's new console thread is far more efficient.
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@Sevan said:

@DeeGee said:

@Sevan said:

its a greed thing, no question. No one sells you what you already paid for like Nintendo. I played halfway through Pokemon White before i realized it was for the most part no different from Pearl. the plan it to slightly improve (graphically) dozens of GC games, then sell them to you as digital downloads. Nintendo probably calls it free money.

Great little conspiracy theory there. What you call greed is what I call common sense. For people who don't have a Wii, they get the option to buy loads of new updated Gamecube games that they've never played. For people who have a Wii, then they can already play their Gamecube games on that so they have no reason to bitch.

I mean, I doubt they'll even sell Gamecube games at all digitally, but even in the off chance they did, it's nothing but a good thing. Who are these idiots who will buy a new copy of a game they already own?

  PS3 did it. Xbox did it. Its common sense to allow your system to do what others can. Its common sense for your more advanced system to be able to run less advanced programs. like say computers. It would be absolutely stupid for your new PC to be unable to play doom.   whats going on here is Nintendo doesnt want you to go to your neighborhood gamestop and buy Smashbrothers for 10 bucks with none of that money going to them... even though they already got their money from that game and its now 6 or 7 years old. Its a business strategy, but its not the thing you would do if you truly appreciate  your customers.   Nintendo knows you will pay full price again to play their exclusive titles (see Zelda OoT coming out on 3DS). thats all thats going on here.
I wish that all of my Windows 9x programs ran correctly under new versions of Windows.
 
Anyway, to put it bluntly, if you sell your old systemfor $30 (as in your other post) because you supposedly need the money, only to turn around and rebuy your old games for more than that, because the ones you had don't play on your new system, you're not really making much sense. 
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    Again i say, PS3 gave us the ability, but then had to cut back on the cost because no one was buying their system at its original rate. Since they DID cut that piece and introduce their slim console, they have really made leaps and bounds (if not for the hack, this would have been the year they surpassed the competition). Obviously they made the right choice... even though that was the LAST thing they should have done and they knew it. And obviously they are still able to give PS1 games because PS1 disks and emulation are a simpler code.  im pretty sure PS1 disks were glorified cdrom's( the format that ANY disk player can translate with ease), ps2's were glorified dvdroms, and PS3's are bluray. Im not tech expert, but i bet the hard and software for ps2 disk reading is a bit harder to manage, becuase PS3 only removed it to help drop its cost from nearly 600 dollars. i garuntee you Nintendo will stil make this one under 400, which is well within what the standard person would pay for a system. They could have charged the extra.
   and people dont hang onto old hardware. VHS's are not still a big thing. They were sold for DVD's. Its the way of tech. And if you dont understand living from Paycheck to paychek, you know less about American business and lifestyles than i though. But Nintendo does. All the companies do. And its part of what Gamestop and the like are built off of. They know that someone will save exactly the amount to get the newest system, and then use the "trade in bonuses" from stores to buffer the cost. It has nothing to do with being poor and "Supposedly needing the money".  its called being middle class in america. 
  And FYI, i would probably hang on to the system too, but the average Nintendo customer doesnt follow the specs of the systems. Any " casual gamer" (who are Nintendoes bread and butter now days) simply walks in and sells the system to get the new one. Its not until 4 months later when they want to play mario party that they give a thought about it... and low and behold theres a 15 dollar download. And on the other end of the spectrum, a teen or young adult who IS relatively poor would trade in their old games and just decide to never play them again... and then Nintendo advertises the nostalgia of the game 5 months later, said teen has a better job and more money, and BAM. You just bought Paper Mario again. If you dont believe in that just wait and see how well Starfox 3ds sells.
 
 Bottom line is you dont make your product lesser than the competition unless there is profit to be made somehow. Nintendo is an international business. If you really think this decision wasnt based on the option of RE SELLING old titles (which is what they have been doing religiously since the gameboy was created) i dont even know why im talking to you.
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I feel like this is DS Lite to DSi all over again.

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@Sevan said:
@Forum_User said:     Again i say, PS3 gave us the ability, but then had to cut back on the cost because no one was buying their system at its original rate. Since they DID cut that piece and introduce their slim console, they have really made leaps and bounds (if not for the hack, this would have been the year they surpassed the competition). Obviously they made the right choice... even though that was the LAST thing they should have done and they knew it. And obviously they are still able to give PS1 games because PS1 disks and emulation are a simpler code.  im pretty sure PS1 disks were glorified cdrom's( the format that ANY disk player can translate with ease), ps2's were glorified dvdroms, and PS3's are bluray. Im not tech expert, but i bet the hard and software for ps2 disk reading is a bit harder to manage, becuase PS3 only removed it to help drop its cost from nearly 600 dollars. i garuntee you Nintendo will stil make this one under 400, which is well within what the standard person would pay for a system. They could have charged the extra.   and people dont hang onto old hardware. VHS's are not still a big thing. They were sold for DVD's. Its the way of tech. And if you dont understand living from Paycheck to paychek, you know less about American business and lifestyles than i though. But Nintendo does. All the companies do. And its part of what Gamestop and the like are built off of. They know that someone will save exactly the amount to get the newest system, and then use the "trade in bonuses" from stores to buffer the cost. It has nothing to do with being poor and "Supposedly needing the money".  its called being middle class in america.    And FYI, i would probably hang on to the system too, but the average Nintendo customer doesnt follow the specs of the systems. Any " casual gamer" (who are Nintendoes bread and butter now days) simply walks in and sells the system to get the new one. Its not until 4 months later when they want to play mario party that they give a thought about it... and low and behold theres a 15 dollar download. And on the other end of the spectrum, a teen or young adult who IS relatively poor would trade in their old games and just decide to never play them again... and then Nintendo advertises the nostalgia of the game 5 months later, said teen has a better job and more money, and BAM. You just bought Paper Mario again. If you dont believe in that just wait and see how well Starfox 3ds sells.   Bottom line is you dont make your product lesser than the competition unless there is profit to be made somehow. Nintendo is an international business. If you really think this decision wasnt based on the option of RE SELLING old titles (which is what they have been doing religiously since the gameboy was created) i dont even know why im talking to you.
Okay, so in short, it's great when Sony does it and shitty when Nintendo does it.  You should have just said that and spared us the time.
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and nothing of value was lost

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Wait, so 92% of you guys on this thread dont already own Gamecubes/Wiis? mhm...i think we have a problem here...

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I hope their digital console includes gamecube games in that case.

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@Forum_User: lol no. if Sony has made the initial system without it, i would be calling the same amount of BS. But they had to remove it. They were falling behind in a race they technically should have been winning. They made the change to compete, and it worked. Wii U isnt starting with it, and they DONT need to do this to compete. 
 difference.
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fret not. Im sure they will.
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@ApuZ said:

Fine, that would be like asking the original Wii to play N64 games.

This

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I figured it would, but oh well. I'd rather buy a $15 HD remaster of Wind Waker with added dungeons than play the GameCube original anyway.

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Oh shit, I guess I can't play resident evil remake games then. Now it's ruined, I can't buy this console thing.

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thats not a big deal, i already played the games i have, i want new games.

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While looking for new games for the Wii, I discovered that Nintendo was creating the Wii U. I was excited at first since the Wii is awesome and now a better version was coming out. Unfortunately my enthusiasm for the new Wii U dropped after having discovered that the Wii U will not be backwards compatible with Game Cube games. This means we will not be able to play any of our older favorite games on the new system, or in order to play them we may have to pay to download them. Does anybody else feel the same? Why? We need to hammer the Nintendo web site with complaints about the lack of backwards compatibility. Here is the address to send your protest about this stupid move on their part: http://www.nintendo.com/consumer/webform.jsp

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@GameTitan123 said:
While looking for new games for the Wii, I discovered that Nintendo was creating the Wii U. I was excited at first since the Wii is awesome and now a better version was coming out. Unfortunately my enthusiasm for the new Wii U dropped after having discovered that the Wii U will not be backwards compatible with Game Cube games. This means we will not be able to play any of our older favorite games on the new system, or in order to play them we may have to pay to download them. Does anybody else feel the same? Why? We need to hammer the Nintendo web site with complaints about the lack of backwards compatibility. Here is the address to send your protest about this stupid move on their part: http://www.nintendo.com/consumer/webform.jsp
Maybe it's not an intentional design choice, and maybe it's not even possible without doing some serious software magic that probably won't be profitable at all in the end? 
 
Just like the PS3 slim doesn't have BWC because it lacks the Emotion Engine and whatever the other PS2 chip was called, and making a full software emulator that works flawlessly is just a big waste of resources in the end. 
 
I'm not happy to see it go either, but that's just how things work.
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First off, way to bump up a 4 month old topic, second, it is kind of unheard of for a console to be backwards compatible by 2 generations... might as well as complain that it doesn't also play your old copies of N64, SNES, or NES games while you are at it

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@Zor said:

second, it is kind of unheard of for a console to be backwards compatible by 2 generations...

All PS3s can play PS1 disk games.... and you can even play them on your PSP over the internet!

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Hmm, see that Wii ya got there? If ya pop a Gamecube game in there, It works!

Problem solved.

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Wow Patrick has been around for 17 months? I still think of him as the new guy.

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@taku128 said:

Wonder if we'll be seeing HD re-releases ala the HD Collections on PS3. I'd buy the shit outta Wind Waker HD.

lol