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Wii U Inspired By Original Concept for Wii Remote

The idea of creating a controller with a separate screen isn’t new at Nintendo.

An image from a Nintendo patent that would add a touchpad display to the Wii remote design.
An image from a Nintendo patent that would add a touchpad display to the Wii remote design.

There’s clearly more to Wii U than what Nintendo has shown so far, as evidenced by last week’s surprise announcement of the tablet-esque controller featuring near-field communication technology.

Nintendo has also been seriously thinking about the idea of a controller with a screen attached for some time, based on comments by the company in its recent Q&A session with investors.

Genyo Takeda, Nintendo’s senior managing director and general manager of the integrated research and development division (!), responded to a question about differentiating Wii U from other hardware manufacturers, and dropped this tidbit.

“So, how to differentiate the Wii U in terms of brand-new uniqueness with other video game systems is important,” he said, “and regarding this point, all I can say today is, we now have the new controller which revolves around the original concept of the Wii Remote, and the developers can take advantage of multiple screens, which enable them to leverage upon the unique combination of a big TV screen and a smaller screen in player’s hands.”

Even though Wii U is coming many years after Wii, if Takeda isn’t just messing with us, what we’re seeing with Wii U is simply fulfilling part of an idea Nintendo has been kicking around for a while.

The Wii remote and nunchuck will both be compatible with Wii U. A Nintendo patent was discovered last year detailing a version of the Wii remote with a touchpad display, essentially bringing the whole thing full circle.

You should read the whole Q&A, which also includes extensive comments from Nintendo president Satoru Iwata and designer Shigeru Miyamoto. There are no startling revelations--that will come at E3--but it’s all interesting.

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I still don't get the wiiu at all.

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@benspyda: Uh, I don't see why. Weaker consoles have won console wars in the past. It isn't like there would be much of a difference between the two anyway. The next Xbox is rumored to use a HD6670 and the Wii U apparently uses a HD4850/4870. There isn't a huge difference between the two, but the latter is definitely capable of doing more. We don't really need GPUs that can do more than either of those in the next generation of consoles.

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@Skanker: I can't imagine microsoft will let nintendo one up them on hardware. If so the next-xbox will bomb.

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That image from that patent looks completely bonkers.

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Looks like Nintendo will once again shape the industry in SOME way. I wonder how long it will be before Sony and Microsoft rip them off this time...

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Dreamcast did it first though. NEVER FORGET THE VMU!

Never Forget
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I keep reading the headline as Wii UnInspired. I'm not joking, it's weird.

Hopefully they put some good games out.

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@Skanker said:

@Robo said:

@zityz I doubt Nintendo is chuckling with 2011 losses 10x their estimate.

I doubt they are chuckling at the response so far to the Wii U.

I doubt they are chuckling at Microsoft encroaching on their gimmicky motion gaming segment.

I doubt they are chuckling about mobile phone/iPad gaming looking to take a huge chunk out of their hanheld market soon.

Actually their losses were a little over 3x their estimate. Japan had some rough times last year and the 3DS did worse than expected initially. The 3DS is expected to sell at a profit within the first quarter of this year though and sales of that system are way up. They might not be chuckling, but I don't think they're all that bothered. They've still got a fucking ton of money built up from the Wii and DS.

Response to the Wii U by who? They haven't started marketing it yet, so there hasn't really been a response to it yet. I'd even say it's way too early to feel one or the other about the system, really.

The Kinect and the Wii are pretty different. You couldn't do a game like Skyward Sword on Kinect, for example. I don't think people are necessarily exclusive to one or the other. Nintendo certainly doesn't seem concerned, considering the Wii is still selling a fucking lot. The Wii U's new controller is something else entirely too.

Soon? Mobile phones and their apps are already pretty big, man. The 3DS and its games seem to be doing just fine, despite that.

From what I heard, they were expecting a 4.2 BILLION yen loss, and lost something like 45 Billion yen, so where did you get x3 from? I'm just curious.

Also, Nintendo ceratinly don't do things half-assed, even their losses are crazy!

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@Rey_Leone said:

@punkxblaze said:

@RetroVirus said:

@NoelVeiga said:

@OllyOxenFree said:

@Chibithor said:

@TehFlan: Retro Studios is working on "a project everyone wants us to do" (Metroid!) for the console, if that counts. Darksiders 2 is also coming among some other multiplatform games. Also Smash Bros.

Another Metroid from Retro Studios does not scream "a project that everyone wants us to do"...

Really? Because I can scream it into your ear if you need to hear it.

I WOULD TOTALLY LIKE TO HAVE AN HD METROID PRIME!

There.

I TOO WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SEE AN HD METROID PRIME ANNOUNCED!

I AM TOTALLY BACKING THESE DUDES UP. ALWAYS BE PRIME.

IS ANYONE ELSE'S CAPS LOCK BUTTON BROKEN TOO?

NONSENSE! THIS IS NOT CAPS LOCK, I AM SIMPLY USING THE ROYAL CANTERLOT VOICE! TIS' A VERY NOBLE THING TO DO!

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Glad they didn't go with that above concept pad!! °__O

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@Robo said:

@zityz I doubt Nintendo is chuckling with 2011 losses 10x their estimate.

I doubt they are chuckling at the response so far to the Wii U.

I doubt they are chuckling at Microsoft encroaching on their gimmicky motion gaming segment.

I doubt they are chuckling about mobile phone/iPad gaming looking to take a huge chunk out of their hanheld market soon.

Actually their losses were a little over 3x their estimate. Japan had some rough times last year and the 3DS did worse than expected initially. The 3DS is expected to sell at a profit within the first quarter of this year though and sales of that system are way up. They might not be chuckling, but I don't think they're all that bothered. They've still got a fucking ton of money built up from the Wii and DS.

Response to the Wii U by who? They haven't started marketing it yet, so there hasn't really been a response to it yet. I'd even say it's way too early to feel one or the other about the system, really.

The Kinect and the Wii are pretty different. You couldn't do a game like Skyward Sword on Kinect, for example. I don't think people are necessarily exclusive to one or the other. Nintendo certainly doesn't seem concerned, considering the Wii is still selling a fucking lot. The Wii U's new controller is something else entirely too.

Soon? Mobile phones and their apps are already pretty big, man. The 3DS and its games seem to be doing just fine, despite that.

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@Rey_Leone said:

@punkxblaze said:

@RetroVirus said:

@NoelVeiga said:

@OllyOxenFree said:

@Chibithor said:

@TehFlan: Retro Studios is working on "a project everyone wants us to do" (Metroid!) for the console, if that counts. Darksiders 2 is also coming among some other multiplatform games. Also Smash Bros.

Another Metroid from Retro Studios does not scream "a project that everyone wants us to do"...

Really? Because I can scream it into your ear if you need to hear it.

I WOULD TOTALLY LIKE TO HAVE AN HD METROID PRIME!

There.

I TOO WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SEE AN HD METROID PRIME ANNOUNCED!

I AM TOTALLY BACKING THESE DUDES UP. ALWAYS BE PRIME.

IS ANYONE ELSE'S CAPS LOCK BUTTON BROKEN TOO?

NO BUT MY SHIFT KEY IS TOTALLY STUCK! I HEARD THEY WERE WORKING ON STAR FOX FROM SOME GUY BUT I HAVE NO IDEA!

also, UbiSoft announced something for the Wii U: Killer Freaks From Outer Space

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@benspyda: If the recent rumours of the next Xbox's are true, the Wii U is going to be the more powerful console of the two.

You need to remember that TVs are going to be 1080p for a while still. The graphics card in the Wii U will be able to handle that resolution just fine.

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There's really only so much gimmicky shit you can attach to electronic hardware before the user just ends up looking like a completely dork while using it.

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@phrali said:

attn: nintendo

plz make a system with a normal fucking controller

thanks

Yeah, why can't they make something normal and boring?

It's not like we have any other consoles right now with a plain old controller.

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attn: nintendo

plz make a system with a normal fucking controller

thanks

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They always seem to know what you what even shen you fight it. Maybe it will work.

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@Rolyatkcinmai: Why would you hope that?

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The Wii U might be a decent stepping stone while waiting for the next-xbox if you are not keen on building your own new pc, as it should be a little more powerful than the 360 and PS3. Plus you get to play nintendo and 'real' games on this console (referring to most of the crap that mainly comes to wii). I may consider buying one. I'm not a fan of controller though.

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@Xeiphyer: I think that a controller with a screen will be enough for kids to say "OMG COOL, MOM I WANT THAT!"

I know I would if I were 11 years old!

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I honestly think the WiiU will do perfectly fine. People seem to have their heads in a box stretching as far as their own headroom. So; just because your perspective fails to see how ninty can do well, they will fail. Interesting!

Anyway, I wont buy a WiiU, I can't be hyped at all from whatever Nintendo has to announce. I have tonnes of friends like this but I also have friends that still get hyped about EVERYTHING Nintendo does.

Also, I think that it is hard for us to understand the mentality of kids these days! They will probably dictate the future of Nintendo.

Enough from me.

Elzar out.

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I'm really interested to see how this does once it releases, I suspect its going to flop, hard. 
 
From what I have seen, all the casual folks who own a Wii are still content with their Wii, or would respond to the WiiU in the typical uninformed parent answer "We already have a Wii, and you never play with it!", which is stereotypical but true.
 
What made the Wii so popular was its motion controls, they were able to make adults interested in the product as well as the children, thanks almost exclusively to WiiSports. The WiiU doesn't look to be able to offer anything really interesting in that way. Another screen doesn't have that same hook, and that hilariously terrible golf demo isn't going to sell anyone.
 
I guess, the casual market seems still content with their Wii's because this update is coming too soon, not to mention it looks and sounds like a marginal update to the Wii, which isn't an easy sell when its a few hundred bucks. So I don't think they're going to get nearly as much of the casual market on board this time around. Although the Kinect sold extremely well, which might be another signal that the casual market is ready to start buying tons of electronic devices, though I suspect that is just because the Kinect was offering its own unique experience.
 
Actually, to look at it another way, Sony's Move didn't do amazing numbers because it was essentially a marginally improved Wii remote. The WiiU could be seen as essentially a marginally improved Wii.
 
I'm sure there will be some people that will disagree with me, and considering Nintendo's track record of generating fucking magic, the WiiU might still do amazingly. We still haven't seen the final product or any marketing, which are obviously important.
 
Also, I remember hearing Nintendo saying they're trying to focus more towards the Hardcore audience again with this console. FINALLY they listened to us and made that WiiU controller! Yes! And it looks like the WiiU is going to be a device dedicated to third party current gen title ports! Woohoo! Hardcore audience get hype! 
 
Nintendooooooooo, don't fuck us! Please don't suck!

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I miss the gamecube...

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@KaneRobot said:

@zityz said:

@PrincessMattakiStar said:

Sadly, I think the WiiU is gonna fail. Yea, Nintendo is seemingly good at capturing the casual gamer market, but I think that it is too soon. People are still getting over the wii fad, and I don't think they are ready to drop a load of money on yet another system. As for the hardcore gamers... Well, Nintendo just doesn't seem to care about you and me. Seriously, Nintendo is on a downward spiral. This is just my opinion.

Funny thing is. People have been saying this since the N64. It makes me chuckle every time.

Not sure why you're laughing, since Nintendo has only had one industry leading home console since the N64. I guess it depends on your definition of fail.

I don't know a single human being excited or planning to buy a WiiU, but I knew tons of people excited to buy a Wii.

I don't expect them to fail really, but it is going to be hard to justify another Wii console after the first one dropped off -hard- with its lack of selection.

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@beast780 said:

Right now, I'm leaning towards getting the Wii U, if it's priced like I think it will be.

I'm hoping the launch price is right around $299. I'm really looking forward to the Wii U, but if it retails at $399 I might think about waiting a little while.

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@zityz I doubt Nintendo is chuckling with 2011 losses 10x their estimate.

I doubt they are chuckling at the response so far to the Wii U.

I doubt they are chuckling at Microsoft encroaching on their gimmicky motion gaming segment.

I doubt they are chuckling about mobile phone/iPad gaming looking to take a huge chunk out of their hanheld market soon.

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@punkxblaze said:

@RetroVirus said:

@NoelVeiga said:

@OllyOxenFree said:

@Chibithor said:

@TehFlan: Retro Studios is working on "a project everyone wants us to do" (Metroid!) for the console, if that counts. Darksiders 2 is also coming among some other multiplatform games. Also Smash Bros.

Another Metroid from Retro Studios does not scream "a project that everyone wants us to do"...

Really? Because I can scream it into your ear if you need to hear it.

I WOULD TOTALLY LIKE TO HAVE AN HD METROID PRIME!

There.

I TOO WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SEE AN HD METROID PRIME ANNOUNCED!

I AM TOTALLY BACKING THESE DUDES UP. ALWAYS BE PRIME.

IS ANYONE ELSE'S CAPS LOCK BUTTON BROKEN TOO?

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hey can u guys ask nintendo what happened to the vitality sensor? wii u, or shelved?

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The thing I've learned about Nintendo is that pretty much everything "new" they are doing now they already did before, probably in the 80's and only released in Japan. Such as the Famicom Modem or their ventures into steroscopic with Famicom Grand Prix II: 3D Hot Rally.

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It seems like before Nintendo releases any hardware, they come out and say "We've had this idea for a while now". Almost as if to say, "Look how inventive and forward thinking we are!". I'm pretty sure they claimed to be thinking of bringing back 3D back in the GC era. Maybe they should look at we were already are and take some lessons. How about them friend codes!

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@RetroVirus said:

@NoelVeiga said:

@OllyOxenFree said:

@Chibithor said:

@TehFlan: Retro Studios is working on "a project everyone wants us to do" (Metroid!) for the console, if that counts. Darksiders 2 is also coming among some other multiplatform games. Also Smash Bros.

Another Metroid from Retro Studios does not scream "a project that everyone wants us to do"...

Really? Because I can scream it into your ear if you need to hear it.

I WOULD TOTALLY LIKE TO HAVE AN HD METROID PRIME!

There.

I TOO WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SEE AN HD METROID PRIME ANNOUNCED!

I AM TOTALLY BACKING THESE DUDES UP. ALWAYS BE PRIME.

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@NoelVeiga said:

@OllyOxenFree said:

@Chibithor said:

@TehFlan: Retro Studios is working on "a project everyone wants us to do" (Metroid!) for the console, if that counts. Darksiders 2 is also coming among some other multiplatform games. Also Smash Bros.

Another Metroid from Retro Studios does not scream "a project that everyone wants us to do"...

Really? Because I can scream it into your ear if you need to hear it.

I WOULD TOTALLY LIKE TO HAVE AN HD METROID PRIME!

There.

I TOO WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SEE AN HD METROID PRIME ANNOUNCED!

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Right now, I'm leaning towards getting the Wii U, if it's priced like I think it will be.

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sega does what nintendont

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Well, I suppose if people don't like what Nintendo is offering, they could ..... well, you know, not buy it?

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I hope this thing fails hard as a motherfucker.

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It will be interesting to see how this sells. The casual market that they sold the majority of the Wii too won't be ready to buy a new "thing we play bowling on" and the "hardcore" market (us?) will likely take a wait and see approach.

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*cough*...VMU...*cough*

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But where is the nintendo horse-bag?

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Will nintendo ever get fucking real? This shit is getting annoying

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@OllyOxenFree said:

@Chibithor said:

@TehFlan: Retro Studios is working on "a project everyone wants us to do" (Metroid!) for the console, if that counts. Darksiders 2 is also coming among some other multiplatform games. Also Smash Bros.

Another Metroid from Retro Studios does not scream "a project that everyone wants us to do"...

Really? Because I can scream it into your ear if you need to hear it.

I WOULD TOTALLY LIKE TO HAVE AN HD METROID PRIME!

There.

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@KaneRobot said:

@zityz said:

@PrincessMattakiStar said:

Sadly, I think the WiiU is gonna fail. Yea, Nintendo is seemingly good at capturing the casual gamer market, but I think that it is too soon. People are still getting over the wii fad, and I don't think they are ready to drop a load of money on yet another system. As for the hardcore gamers... Well, Nintendo just doesn't seem to care about you and me. Seriously, Nintendo is on a downward spiral. This is just my opinion.

Funny thing is. People have been saying this since the N64. It makes me chuckle every time.

Not sure why you're laughing, since Nintendo has only had one industry leading home console since the N64. I guess it depends on your definition of fail.

The N64 was not even close to being a leading console on its generation. The Playstation 1 has that honour. The Wii is the first Nintendo home console to lead its gen since the SNES.

EDIT: For the record, you're still totally right about the other thing. Remember how the Gamecube was their last console for sure because who the hell had the idea to make one button larger than the others? Clearly appealing to the casuals would never work on a home console at all.

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@KaneRobot said:

Not sure why you're laughing, since Nintendo has only had one industry leading home console since the N64. I guess it depends on your definition of fail.

They're leading this generation, but did not lead the last one. Winning 1 out of 2 in a 3 player game is..failing?

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@zityz said:

@PrincessMattakiStar said:

Sadly, I think the WiiU is gonna fail. Yea, Nintendo is seemingly good at capturing the casual gamer market, but I think that it is too soon. People are still getting over the wii fad, and I don't think they are ready to drop a load of money on yet another system. As for the hardcore gamers... Well, Nintendo just doesn't seem to care about you and me. Seriously, Nintendo is on a downward spiral. This is just my opinion.

Funny thing is. People have been saying this since the N64. It makes me chuckle every time.

Not sure why you're laughing, since Nintendo has only had one industry leading home console since the N64. I guess it depends on your definition of fail.

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They've been doing it for years, it's called "hand-held game machines". Another example of "fresh" thinking that isn't.

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@zityz said:

@PrincessMattakiStar said:

Sadly, I think the WiiU is gonna fail. Yea, Nintendo is seemingly good at capturing the casual gamer market, but I think that it is too soon. People are still getting over the wii fad, and I don't think they are ready to drop a load of money on yet another system. As for the hardcore gamers... Well, Nintendo just doesn't seem to care about you and me. Seriously, Nintendo is on a downward spiral. This is just my opinion.

Funny thing is. People have been saying this since the N64. It makes me chuckle every time.

but for real this time.

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@PrincessMattakiStar said:

Sadly, I think the WiiU is gonna fail. Yea, Nintendo is seemingly good at capturing the casual gamer market, but I think that it is too soon. People are still getting over the wii fad, and I don't think they are ready to drop a load of money on yet another system. As for the hardcore gamers... Well, Nintendo just doesn't seem to care about you and me. Seriously, Nintendo is on a downward spiral. This is just my opinion.

Funny thing is. People have been saying this since the N64. It makes me chuckle every time.

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@Chibithor said:

@TehFlan: Retro Studios is working on "a project everyone wants us to do" (Metroid!) for the console, if that counts. Darksiders 2 is also coming among some other multiplatform games. Also Smash Bros.

Another Metroid from Retro Studios does not scream "a project that everyone wants us to do"...
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sheesh...Nintendo, what have you become?!?!?! Sad to see one of the biggest gaming companies from who shaped my childhood really going off the deep end. Atleast they got it right with the DS!!!

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I will never underestimate Nintendo.