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Yeah, Fez Has a Release Date

The lengthy development of Fez has come to a close.

After years of development, a couple of re-designs and a few public gaffes later, Fez is finally done.

Designer Phil Fish announced last night on Twitter that Fez would be released via Xbox Live Arcade on a rather appropriate date: April 13. You’ll only be paying 800 Microsoft Points ($10) for it, too.

Fez was first revealed all the way back in 2007, and loosely had a release window several times, only to be delayed over and over again. The game was a source of controversy at this year’s Independent Games Festival, as Fez won for “Excellence in Visual Art” in 2008, which also came with $2,500, and the “Seumas McNally Grand Prize” this year, which came with a much bigger pot: $30,000. The rules on entering twice may change next year.

Fish also made waves around the same time for deeply criticizing Japanese video games during the Q&A session for Indie Game: The Movie, following a question from a Japanese designer in the audience.

In a few weeks, though, we'll have the best way to judge a designer: their game.

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Hey guys, if you're not going to buy the game because you don't like the developer thats fine. But don't use it as an excuse to pirate the game. Thats bullshit.

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Man, fuck this game! Phil is a pretentious asshole, he can suck my dick! I will never support anything made by an asshole EVER!!!

*Looks around at everything he owns and realizes it's all made by assholes*

*Reads what he posted and realizes he himself is an asshole*

*Burns everything he owns and kills himself*

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@Veri7as said:

Man, fuck this game! Phil is a pretentious asshole, he can suck my dick! I will never support anything made by an asshole EVER!!!

*Looks around at everything he owns and realizes it's all made by assholes*

*Reads what he posted and realizes he himself is an asshole*

*Burns everything he owns and kills himself*

No dude! He's an asshole stuck up prick and I hope he rots in hell because I hate his guts and he sucks as a human being!!! Not giving him my money! I hope his game fails miserably! What a PRICK!!

(apparently he eats babies)

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@Mesoian: Well, I'm not buying it anyway because he doesn't want my filthy PC dollars (and it doesn't look that good), but if I know someone's a racist, homophobe, or just a super smug asshole it has an impact on how I feel about their work. I mean, let's not forget his comments about winning the IGF grand prize as well, so I'm pretty sure he's still an asshole :)

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@Mesoian said:

Because his attitude, good or bad, has nothing to do with the quality of game produced. It's like not buying the milk at the store because the stockboy is a prick.

Protip: everyone is an asshole at some point in their life. No one is except from that. No one buys Miyamoto's games because they think he's a swell guy. They buy them because he's proven himself in making good games.

I think you're assuming a lot about why people buy games. People don't just buy games that are good, or games that are made by proven developers or whatever. Because someone is consistently an asshole is a perfectly acceptable reason to not buy a game (as if somebody even needs a reason to not buy something).

Will people be missing out on a great game? Maybe. The thing is, there are a ton of great games available that aren't made by jerks. My choices of games to buy are myriad, so if faced with the choice to buy a good game from a jerk and a good game from a not-jerk, I would buy from the not-jerk every time.

I won't buy this game cause Fish is a jerk, and I don't want to support his jerky bullshit. Am I missing a good game? MAYBE. Am I consciously supporting a jerk? Definitely not.

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And honestly guys, seriously, take some time to remember that time you were a dick to someone you liked. The time that you let your emotions get away from you and were a bit of an asshole for one reason or another. Maybe you felt bad about it. Maybe you didn't. But it happens to all of us, and to condemn others for it, YEARS LATER IN SOME CASES, is silly and petty. If you wanna judge this guy, play the demo of this and bring realistic critique to the game. But if you're going to sit there and continue to say, "AH HE'S AN ASSHOLE SO EVERYTHING HE DOES SUCKS!", then you are just as terrible as you're claiming him to be.

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@Faltru said:

Hey guys, if you're not going to buy the game because you don't like the developer thats fine. But don't use it as an excuse to pirate the game. Thats bullshit.

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@wh1terav3n said:

@Sweetz: It's not coming to steam. Phil has said that this is a console game and will never come to steam because it "is something you sit on a couch on a saturday morning and relax with. It is not a PC game" We'll see if that holds, but knowing him, he'd rather die than have his game go somewhere else for money.

Well that sucks. I haven't closely followed all the hubbub about Phil, but man, statements like that don't get me on his side. There are plenty of us with our PCs hooked to HDTVs and 360 pads that can "relax" with our game platform as well anyone else.

Meh, it was just officially announced that Insanely Twisted Shadow Planet will be coming to PC soon, so I have that to look forward to in terms of once exclusive XBLA games. Plus I'm guessing it's only another month or two until the Iron Brigade embargo ends.

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I'm pretty sure even Patrick, who's friends with him, said he's an asshole so I don't know why you want to argue that point

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@Gordo789 said:

@Mesoian said:

Because his attitude, good or bad, has nothing to do with the quality of game produced. It's like not buying the milk at the store because the stockboy is a prick.

Protip: everyone is an asshole at some point in their life. No one is except from that. No one buys Miyamoto's games because they think he's a swell guy. They buy them because he's proven himself in making good games.

I think you're assuming a lot about why people buy games. People don't just buy games that are good, or games that are made by proven developers or whatever. Because someone is an consistently an asshole is a perfectly acceptable reason to not buy a game (as if somebody even needs a reason to not buy something).

Will people be missing out on a great game? Maybe. The thing is, there are a ton of great games available that aren't made by jerks. My choices of games to buy are myriad, so if faced with the choice to buy a good game from a jerk and a good game from a not-jerk, I would buy from the not-jerk every time.

I won't buy this game cause Fish is a jerk, and I don't want to support his jerky bullshit. Am I missing a good game? MAYBE. Am I consciously supporting a jerk? Definitely not.

You'd be supporting a jerk who makes good games. Nothing wrong with that. Plenty of groundbreaking artists are fuckwads, so who cares?

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@Gordo789 said:

@Mesoian said:

Because his attitude, good or bad, has nothing to do with the quality of game produced. It's like not buying the milk at the store because the stockboy is a prick.

Protip: everyone is an asshole at some point in their life. No one is except from that. No one buys Miyamoto's games because they think he's a swell guy. They buy them because he's proven himself in making good games.

I think you're assuming a lot about why people buy games. People don't just buy games that are good, or games that are made by proven developers or whatever. Because someone is consistently an asshole is a perfectly acceptable reason to not buy a game (as if somebody even needs a reason to not buy something).

Will people be missing out on a great game? Maybe. The thing is, there are a ton of great games available that aren't made by jerks. My choices of games to buy are myriad, so if faced with the choice to buy a good game from a jerk and a good game from a not-jerk, I would buy from the not-jerk every time.

I won't buy this game cause Fish is a jerk, and I don't want to support his jerky bullshit. Am I missing a good game? MAYBE. Am I consciously supporting a jerk? Definitely not.

The only reason why you should be looking to buy a game is so you can be entertained in playing it. If you're letting other politics get in the way of that, you have forgotten the reason why you're playing games in the first place.

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@Animasta said:

I'm pretty sure even Patrick, who's friends with him, said he's an asshole so I don't know why you want to argue that point

I don't think anyone is saying he's not. I think the big argument is to not ignore a good game because the developer of said game is an asshole.

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@Animasta said:

I'm pretty sure even Patrick, who's friends with him, said he's an asshole so I don't know why you want to argue that point

If meeting him once or twice makes you his friend then we are BFF's.

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I've been salivating over FEZ for years, but boy do I wish somebody found some contractual loophole to scam Phil Fish out of any proceeds from it. The guy seems like a grade A douchebag.

I'll still reluctantly buy it cause I'm a hypocrite though

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@Mesoian said:

@Animasta said:

I'm pretty sure even Patrick, who's friends with him, said he's an asshole so I don't know why you want to argue that point

I don't think anyone is saying he's not. I think the big argument is to not ignore a good game because the developer of said game is an asshole.

so, lets say (this is theoretical, he obviously wouldn't do this) he tweets "KILL ALL JEWS KILL ALL F*GS KILL ALL AMERICANS" would you still buy it?

Another thing; as someone said, there are plenty of people I like to support because they're nice guys. Why can't I not support a guy because he's an asshole?

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@Set: I do?

I don't think it's really your place to tell me why I should or should not be buying games.

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I'm just saying that you shouldn't let a person's personality tarnish your expectations for a game. Art is a very strange thing.

A lot of people have problems watching Roman Polanski flicks.

THAT'S RIGHT! I CALLED PHIL FISH A PEDOPHILE RAPIST WHO RAN AWAY FROM THE LAW!

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@Animasta said:

@Mesoian said:

@Animasta said:

I'm pretty sure even Patrick, who's friends with him, said he's an asshole so I don't know why you want to argue that point

I don't think anyone is saying he's not. I think the big argument is to not ignore a good game because the developer of said game is an asshole.

so, lets say (this is theoretical, he obviously wouldn't do this) he tweets "KILL ALL JEWS KILL ALL F*GS KILL ALL AMERICANS" would you still buy it?

Another thing; as someone said, there are plenty of people I like to support because they're nice guys. Why can't I not support a guy because he's an asshole?

There's a big difference between an asshole and a biggot dude. But on that same note, Mel Gibson is a huge biggot, Lethal Weapon is still an amazing action movie. Roman Polaski is a self attributing pedophile, Chinatown is still one of the greatest films ever made.

Let's flip the script. You support people who are totally nice. What if what they make is terrible? Do you still support them?

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@Animasta said:

@Mesoian said:

@Animasta said:

I'm pretty sure even Patrick, who's friends with him, said he's an asshole so I don't know why you want to argue that point

I don't think anyone is saying he's not. I think the big argument is to not ignore a good game because the developer of said game is an asshole.

so, lets say (this is theoretical, he obviously wouldn't do this) he tweets "KILL ALL JEWS KILL ALL F*GS KILL ALL AMERICANS" would you still buy it?

Another thing; as someone said, there are plenty of people I like to support because they're nice guys. Why can't I not support a guy because he's an asshole?

Yeah I would. I bought music made by racists in the past because I liked what they made. But that is besides the point. Phil is not a hateful person with national socialistic tendencies, he just has an ego.

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@Faltru:

I don't think anyone was advocating that, Faltru.

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Yeah but, Japanese games do suck

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@TeflonBilly said:

@Set said:

I'm just saying that you shouldn't let a person's personality tarnish your expectations for a game. Art is a very strange thing.

A lot of people have problems watching Roman Polanski flicks.

THAT'S RIGHT! I CALLED PHIL FISH A PEDOPHILE RAPIST WHO RAN AWAY FROM THE LAW!

LOL, I read it on the internet. It must be true.

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@Mesoian said:

@Animasta said:

@Mesoian said:

@Animasta said:

I'm pretty sure even Patrick, who's friends with him, said he's an asshole so I don't know why you want to argue that point

I don't think anyone is saying he's not. I think the big argument is to not ignore a good game because the developer of said game is an asshole.

so, lets say (this is theoretical, he obviously wouldn't do this) he tweets "KILL ALL JEWS KILL ALL F*GS KILL ALL AMERICANS" would you still buy it?

Another thing; as someone said, there are plenty of people I like to support because they're nice guys. Why can't I not support a guy because he's an asshole?

There's a big difference between an asshole and a biggot dude. But on that same note, Mel Gibson is a huge biggot, Lethal Weapon is still an amazing action movie. Roman Polaski is a self attributing pedophile, Chinatown is still one of the greatest films ever made.

Let's flip the script. You support people who are totally nice. What if what they make is terrible? Do you still support them?

terrible? maybe not, depends on the price I suppose, but I don't see what that has to do with anything.

Also good job on you supporting bigots

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The internet is such a dumb place sometimes.

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@Animasta said:

@Mesoian said:

@Animasta said:

@Mesoian said:

@Animasta said:

I'm pretty sure even Patrick, who's friends with him, said he's an asshole so I don't know why you want to argue that point

I don't think anyone is saying he's not. I think the big argument is to not ignore a good game because the developer of said game is an asshole.

so, lets say (this is theoretical, he obviously wouldn't do this) he tweets "KILL ALL JEWS KILL ALL F*GS KILL ALL AMERICANS" would you still buy it?

Another thing; as someone said, there are plenty of people I like to support because they're nice guys. Why can't I not support a guy because he's an asshole?

There's a big difference between an asshole and a biggot dude. But on that same note, Mel Gibson is a huge biggot, Lethal Weapon is still an amazing action movie. Roman Polaski is a self attributing pedophile, Chinatown is still one of the greatest films ever made.

Let's flip the script. You support people who are totally nice. What if what they make is terrible? Do you still support them?

terrible? maybe not, depends on the price I suppose, but I don't see what that has to do with anything.

Also good job on you supporting bigots

Now you're just being dismissive because you don't have any sort of valid argument anymore.

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I disagree with his comments a few months back, but I really get into the niche Japanese games. Either way, game itself seems to have an interesting gimmick, and i'll check out the demo, see if I want it.

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@mnzy said:

The internet is such a dumb place sometimes.

I know, right? Comparing Phil to antisemitism and all? That's pretty childish if you ask me.

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@Veri7as: uhuh. That's totally what I was saying, I was basically saying fish was the worst person in the world! you cracked it!

or you know I was asking him if he would ever not support someone because they're a bigot instead of just an asshole.

and he would, so...

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I dunno. I just can't support a product whose developer is a gigantic douche. Even if the game is good, that thought will still linger in my mind while I play it.

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@Animasta:

How can you compare "KILL ALL JEWS KILL ALL F*GS KILL ALL AMERICANS" with "You're games suck"? I find it childish to make huge assumptions about a person based on one or two readings from the internet.

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I heard Fez is being used to help fund Phil Fish's outspokenness to annoy internet people.

Welp, he's got my money.

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@Veri7as said:

@Animasta:

How can you compare "KILL ALL JEWS KILL ALL F*GS KILL ALL AMERICANS" with "You're games suck"? I find it childish to make huge assumptions about a person based on one or two readings from the internet.

I wasn't! I was asking HIM PERSONALLY if he would support ANYONE who said that, or things like that, IF they had a game/movie/book he wanted. Maybe I should have said someother indie darling, but I did say that this theoretical and that he would never say it.

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@Animasta said:

@Veri7as said:

@Animasta:

How can you compare "KILL ALL JEWS KILL ALL F*GS KILL ALL AMERICANS" with "You're games suck"? I find it childish to make huge assumptions about a person based on one or two readings from the internet.

I wasn't! I was asking HIM PERSONALLY if he would support ANYONE who said that, or things like that, IF they had a game/movie/book he wanted. Maybe I should have said someother indie darling, but I did say that this theoretical and that he would never say it.

I think you misread my post. How can you compare someone that wants to kill people to someone that thinks Japanese games suck?

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@Veri7as said:

@Animasta said:

@Veri7as said:

@Animasta:

How can you compare "KILL ALL JEWS KILL ALL F*GS KILL ALL AMERICANS" with "You're games suck"? I find it childish to make huge assumptions about a person based on one or two readings from the internet.

I wasn't! I was asking HIM PERSONALLY if he would support ANYONE who said that, or things like that, IF they had a game/movie/book he wanted. Maybe I should have said someother indie darling, but I did say that this theoretical and that he would never say it.

I think you misread my post. How can you compare someone that wants to kill people to someone that thinks Japanese games suck?

I wasn't really comparing them, I was just wondering if he would support someone much much worse than just some guy who was an asshole. because he was basically saying (well, what I got out of it) that all works of art are completely separated from the artists' personality or perceived personality, which I disagreed with.

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Hoping for a PC release eventually.

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@Animasta said:

@Veri7as said:

@Animasta said:

@Veri7as said:

@Animasta:

How can you compare "KILL ALL JEWS KILL ALL F*GS KILL ALL AMERICANS" with "You're games suck"? I find it childish to make huge assumptions about a person based on one or two readings from the internet.

I wasn't! I was asking HIM PERSONALLY if he would support ANYONE who said that, or things like that, IF they had a game/movie/book he wanted. Maybe I should have said someother indie darling, but I did say that this theoretical and that he would never say it.

I think you misread my post. How can you compare someone that wants to kill people to someone that thinks Japanese games suck?

I wasn't really comparing them, I was just wondering if he would support someone much much worse than just some guy who was an asshole. because he was basically saying (well, what I got out of it) that all works of art are completely separated from the artists' personality or perceived personality, which I disagreed with.

Why would you ask if you didn't want to compare his answers? Therefore comparing the two...

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@Mesoian said:

The only reason why you should be looking to buy a game is so you can be entertained in playing it. If you're letting other politics get in the way of that, you have forgotten the reason why you're playing games in the first place.

Not sure I agree with this statement, are you saying that there is nothing anyone can do with the money you spent on something that would make you wish that you had not spent it? Or is this something you apply to videogames and videogames only, and if so, why? Maybe I'm missing some sort of rethorical device that you're employing, but it sounds pretty messed up to me to let the quality of a product be the sole defining measure that you use to decide whether or not to support the people behind it.

Also, for the record, this is not about this fish-whatever guy, because I'm not in the camp of thinking what he did was terrible enough to warrant anyone changing their mind about getting the game.

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@OllyOxenFree said:

I dunno. I just can't support a product whose developer is a gigantic douche. Even if the game is good, that thought will still linger in my mind while I play it.

Oh man then never play a Cliffy B. game.

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@RockmanBionics: I think he's suggesting that the only correct metric by which to choose which games to buy is by their ability to entertain you, and that choosing them in any other way is somehow wrong.

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@Veri7as said:

@Animasta said:

@Veri7as said:

@Animasta said:

@Veri7as said:

@Animasta:

How can you compare "KILL ALL JEWS KILL ALL F*GS KILL ALL AMERICANS" with "You're games suck"? I find it childish to make huge assumptions about a person based on one or two readings from the internet.

I wasn't! I was asking HIM PERSONALLY if he would support ANYONE who said that, or things like that, IF they had a game/movie/book he wanted. Maybe I should have said someother indie darling, but I did say that this theoretical and that he would never say it.

I think you misread my post. How can you compare someone that wants to kill people to someone that thinks Japanese games suck?

I wasn't really comparing them, I was just wondering if he would support someone much much worse than just some guy who was an asshole. because he was basically saying (well, what I got out of it) that all works of art are completely separated from the artists' personality or perceived personality, which I disagreed with.

Why would you ask if you didn't want to compare his answers? Therefore comparing the two...

I guess that by that definition I was comparing the two, so I apologize, but it was still a valid question; at what point does a person's personality factor in that you won't support the product? I was trying to find out if he would or would not support it if they were super big on bigotry. That's all, I wasn't insinuating or even trying to compare the two, beyond the fact that both are bad things to be (being a bigot is obviously, clearly worse than being an asshole, BY THE WAY, in case you try jumping down my throat again) but are you saying that I'm wrong for not buying some product because they're an asshole, or a PERCEIVED asshole?

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How can you compare "KILL ALL JEWS KILL ALL F*GS KILL ALL AMERICANS" with "You're games suck"? I find it childish to make huge assumptions about a person based on one or two readings from the internet.

I wasn't! I was asking HIM PERSONALLY if he would support ANYONE who said that, or things like that, IF they had a game/movie/book he wanted. Maybe I should have said someother indie darling, but I did say that this theoretical and that he would never say it.

I think you misread my post. How can you compare someone that wants to kill people to someone that thinks Japanese games suck?

I wasn't really comparing them, I was just wondering if he would support someone much much worse than just some guy who was an asshole. because he was basically saying (well, what I got out of it) that all works of art are completely separated from the artists' personality or perceived personality, which I disagreed with.

Why would you ask if you didn't want to compare his answers? Therefore comparing the two...

I guess that by that definition I was comparing the two, so I apologize, but it was still a valid question; at what point does a person's personality factor in that you won't support the product? I was trying to find out if he would or would not support it if they were super big on bigotry. That's all, I wasn't insinuating or even trying to compare the two, beyond the fact that both are bad things to be (being a bigot is obviously, clearly worse than being an asshole, BY THE WAY, in case you try jumping down my throat again) but are you saying that I'm wrong for not buying some product because they're an asshole, or a PERCEIVED asshole?

Jumping to conclusions about a person based on a few quotes taken out of context and then depriving yourself of a great game because of it is retarded. That's what I'm saying.

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How can you compare "KILL ALL JEWS KILL ALL F*GS KILL ALL AMERICANS" with "You're games suck"? I find it childish to make huge assumptions about a person based on one or two readings from the internet.

I wasn't! I was asking HIM PERSONALLY if he would support ANYONE who said that, or things like that, IF they had a game/movie/book he wanted. Maybe I should have said someother indie darling, but I did say that this theoretical and that he would never say it.

I think you misread my post. How can you compare someone that wants to kill people to someone that thinks Japanese games suck?

I wasn't really comparing them, I was just wondering if he would support someone much much worse than just some guy who was an asshole. because he was basically saying (well, what I got out of it) that all works of art are completely separated from the artists' personality or perceived personality, which I disagreed with.

Why would you ask if you didn't want to compare his answers? Therefore comparing the two...

I guess that by that definition I was comparing the two, so I apologize, but it was still a valid question; at what point does a person's personality factor in that you won't support the product? I was trying to find out if he would or would not support it if they were super big on bigotry. That's all, I wasn't insinuating or even trying to compare the two, beyond the fact that both are bad things to be (being a bigot is obviously, clearly worse than being an asshole, BY THE WAY, in case you try jumping down my throat again) but are you saying that I'm wrong for not buying some product because they're an asshole, or a PERCEIVED asshole?

Jumping to conclusions about a person based on a few quotes taken out of context and then depriving yourself of a great game because of it is retarded. That's what I'm saying.

when one of those few quotes is "no PC version" then it's not, in fact "retarded"

also don't say retarded please and thank you

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@Animasta said:

when one of those few quotes is "no PC version" then it's not, in fact "retarded"

also don't say retarded please and thank you

I didn't know you were an expert on the contract that was signed in order to get the game on to XBLA.

"Fish stated that he currently has no plans to bring Fez to any other platform, but will consider doing so if the game sells well."

Are you saying this makes him an asshole and therefore Fez is not worth supporting? Are you that much of a PC snob?

(Sorry for my language, I didn't know asshole was ok but retarded wasn't... ...)

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I like to think that I'm pretty good about separating the art from the artist when it comes to purchasing decisions, but Phil Fish's behavior really rubbed me the wrong way. Maybe it was partially because of Patrick's dismissive attitude over the incident, when he previously wrote that article on sexism in the fighting game community. Patrick just shrugged off Fish's comments with, "that's just how he is", when that was the same argument Aris Bakhtanians' defenders used when he was harrassing Miranda Pakozdi.

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The only reason why you should be looking to buy a game is so you can be entertained in playing it. If you're letting other politics get in the way of that, you have forgotten the reason why you're playing games in the first place.

Not sure I agree with this statement, are you saying that there is nothing anyone can do with the money you spent on something that would make you wish that you had not spent it? Or is this something you apply to videogames and videogames only, and if so, why? Maybe I'm missing some sort of rethorical device that you're employing, but it sounds pretty messed up to me to let the quality of a product be the sole defining measure that you use to decide whether or not to support the people behind it.

Also, for the record, this is not about this fish-whatever guy, because I'm not in the camp of thinking what he did was terrible enough to warrant anyone changing their mind about getting the game.

Why? I don't see why that's messed up at all.

We play video games to be entertained by them. We watch movies and TV shows so we can be entertained. Music, poetry, fine art, we endulge within it all so we can be entertained. The moment we let outside politics intervene with our entertainment is the moment we allow ourselves to be swayed. I think most of us can say we enjoyed Batman Begins and the Dark Knight Returns. I think American Psycho is a pretty solid movie. They were entertaining and I got my money's worth. Now, did that entertainment value somehow go down when Christian Bale went on that crazy rampage in the studio on that light guy that one time? No. How is this any different?

The only time you should truly feel remorse about spending money on something is when that certain something is not up to par. I'm sure Yoshinori Kitase is a nice dude who really put a lot of time and effort into his projects and really tried is best to make sure that all audiences could enjoy his games. That being said, FF7: Dirge of Cerberus was a fucking piece of shit and no one should ever play it because it is TERRIBLE. I bought that game. I have buyers remorse for it, and the fact that it helped fund the payroll at Square Enix does not make me feel any better about buying it.

The quality of work, at the end of the day, should be the bottom line. Uwe Boll is a big sack of shit, but if his movies were actually made well and were worth seeing (in a non ironic way) I'd give him my money. We know for a fact that Yoshinori Ono is a super cool guy, but I don't like what he did with SFxT at all, so I'm not buying that game. Let the work speak for itself. Allow yourself to be entertained. And if you are not, THEN you can get upset.

Because honestly, at the end of the day, no one really cares about what Phil Fish said. And if they did take it personally for some reason, he already apologized. So why cut yourself off from a good experience (and again, I already know it's good having played a good chunk of it) because you decided to get upset about something that doesn't really matter. When Phil Fish starts attacking your personal beliefs, then you can get upset. Until then, why don't you try his game?

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Can anyone tell me what the actual gameplay will be? I mean, the visuals are nice but I haven't seen any actual game yet. Is it a platformer, a puzzler or an adventure game?

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@Mesoian: Some people are just different though, I definitely thought of the behind the scenes incident while I was watching Terminator Salvation - didn't really affect my enjoyment of the film but I DID think of it.

I never had much interest in this game (I might get a demo because I do for most arcade games) and if the game is good I would buy it . The point that I and others are trying to make is that different people have their enjoyment of a product affected by different things. Sure you don't care about the creator being a tool, incidentally a lot of people do.

As another poster said Patrick's attitude towards this also rubbed me the wrong way too.

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@Autechresaint: I don't mean to accuse anyone on here. I just meant in general. I've read comments elsewhere from people who plan to do exactly that. Its an excuse you hear pretty frequently.

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@Mesoian: Well I disagree. I wouldn't want to spend money on a product that supported human trafficking, for instance, regardless of its quality.