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Your Wii Games Won't Be Upscaled On Wii U

Wii games will look just like Wii games on Wii U.

Wii hardware was capable of playing GameCube discs, but that won't be possible in Wii U. Since it's compatible with Wii remotes and accesories, it'll obviously play Wii discs, but the question is whether Nintendo will alter the look of those Wii games with the more powerful Wii U.

The answer is no, based on a conversation I had yesterday with Mark Franklin, head of Nintendo's public relations. Pop in a Wii disc, the games will play like they did on the Wii.

No upscaling or texture filtering, unfortunately.

Ah well. The dream of effortlessly getting Super Mario Galaxy 2 in HD has been shot down.

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Posted by patrickklepek

Wii hardware was capable of playing GameCube discs, but that won't be possible in Wii U. Since it's compatible with Wii remotes and accesories, it'll obviously play Wii discs, but the question is whether Nintendo will alter the look of those Wii games with the more powerful Wii U.

The answer is no, based on a conversation I had yesterday with Mark Franklin, head of Nintendo's public relations. Pop in a Wii disc, the games will play like they did on the Wii.

No upscaling or texture filtering, unfortunately.

Ah well. The dream of effortlessly getting Super Mario Galaxy 2 in HD has been shot down.

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Edited by Burb

Quest complete?  Sucks that Wii games will still look like crap.

Edited by keithfreitag

damnit!!

EDIT: - Always the bridesmaid, never the bride.. I've been 2nd so many times.. I just want to finish this damn quest already!

Posted by Jeffsekai

Why.

Posted by pocketfudge

How else are they going to try to resell you HD versions of the same crap you've already bought? 
 
Typical Nintendo.

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Posted by onlineatron

This be some buuuulsheet.

Posted by Brendan

@pocketfudge said:

How else are they going to try to resell you HD versions of the same crap you've already bought? Typical Nintendo.

It's typical everyone at this point. Nintendo is far from the only company to do this.

Posted by ChrisTaran

What a missed chance.

Edited by DirtyData

This is the same company that released the ROM for Super Mario All-Stars on a Wii disc. Can't say I'm too surprised but appreciate the confirmation on the new system.

Thanks Patrick!

Posted by GalacticPunt

What the crap? Hasn't the emulation scene established that first-party Wii games have better textures on the disc? Why is Nintendo never going to use them?

Posted by Finstern

Come October I will be able to play them on my PC upscaled... so sure, keep it up Nintendo!

Edited by MayorFeedback

The fact that you can do this via emulation on the PC means that there are few reasons Nintendo couldn't have included it. Many of the higher-res textures are already on disc.

Posted by MysteriousBob
@Brendan said:

@pocketfudge said:

How else are they going to try to resell you HD versions of the same crap you've already bought? Typical Nintendo.

It's typical everyone at this point. Nintendo is far from the only company to do this.

No, they just make lazy 'Wii' ports of GameCube games.
Posted by notha

man, fuck that. another reason to not spend money on nintendo

Posted by bhhawks78

Everytime more news about the wiiu comes out the less I want it.

No unified online.

More powerful than 360/pc but less powerful than my 3 year old 600$ pc :(

No wii upscaling

No gamecube support

Guess I'm sitting the wiiu out or buying it to play 2-3 games I thought were awesome (silent hill/boom blox) and then selling it like I did with the wii.

Posted by metalsnakezero

The closest that Wii games will ever be HD is 480p, which isn't too bad but yeah. Still the Wii U game will be 1080p so that good to hear. 

Posted by This_Dude

This is a really stupid thing on nintendo's part.   If some homebrew dudes can cook up an emulator to run all that stuff in nice crisp HD then certainly Nintendo should have something on the Wii U that can do the same thing.  They'd sell a lot more people some games that they might not have picked up during the Wii's run just because they didn't want a console that wasn't HD.

Posted by Little_Socrates

@Brendan said:

@pocketfudge said:

How else are they going to try to resell you HD versions of the same crap you've already bought? Typical Nintendo.

It's typical everyone at this point. Nintendo is far from the only company to do this.

QFT, though I can definitely agree with everyone else that this particular instance is kind of dumb.

Posted by Claude

I'm sure the reason they did this is to keep the cost down. I'm not really sure how consoles do that anyway. But there again, Nintendo does like to repackage games. Super Mario Galaxy HD with both SMG 1&2 on the disk would sell like hotcakes.

Posted by CornishRocker

@Burb said:

first

A winner is not you.

Posted by Saga

So the Wii U is basically a HDMI cable for your standard Wii....

Posted by phish09
@Saga said:

So the Wii U is basically a HDMI cable for your standard Wii....

I guess, as much as the PS3 is just an HDMI cable for your PS2.  
 
Talk about an uninformed opinion.
Posted by n8

@Patrick Klepek Gee, thanks for ruining my WEEK. :-/

Posted by PKHilson
@keithfreitag:  
 
Don't stress over it too much. I didn't and one day I got it by error by posting like 30th lol. It barely gives any points by the way...
Posted by CagePlay

Just the fact it plays Wii games is good, unlike PS3 not being backward compatible with PS2. I'm pretty positive about the potential of Wii U, especially that Nintendo have got the time to decide on the final spec of the box.

Posted by AuthenticM

Well, that sucks.

Edited by DefaultProphet

@Little_Socrates said:

@Brendan said:

@pocketfudge said:

How else are they going to try to resell you HD versions of the same crap you've already bought? Typical Nintendo.

It's typical everyone at this point. Nintendo is far from the only company to do this.

QFT, though I can definitely agree with everyone else that this particular instance is kind of dumb.

PS3 upscales PS2 by default. It doesn't look as good as the HD re-released but that's to be expected. So no, not typical everyone.

Posted by NellyK

Not a big surprise. Gotta sell us those Wii HD Classics. I'm sure we'll see Mario Galaxy 1 & 2, Twilight Princess, and Goldeneye in dazzling HD for the new low cost of $29.95 each.

Posted by hturan

C'mon people, get some sense. Not even the most powerful PC out today can handle the Wii library at 100%. Even with low-level knowledge of Wii hardware it would take years to emulate and check every Wii release.

Posted by ryanwho
@pocketfudge said:
How else are they going to try to resell you HD versions of the same crap you've already bought?  Typical Nintendo.
Really? Because that sounds like half the shit on the PS3's lineup right now.
Posted by Scarlet_Rogue

No gamecube games and no upscaling. I'm sure someone's said this before, but apparently the U in Wii U stands for useless.

Posted by dankempster

Wow, the response to this article caught me completely off-guard. Personally I wouldn't even consider this factoid news-worthy, but people are apparently genuinely bothered by the fact that the Wii U won't upscale Wii games. I'd have thought that the majority of people playing Wii games wouldn't be worried about something as trivial as a few extra pixels. It matters even less when you consider that games like Super Mario Galaxy look great irrespective of the Wii's technical handicaps.

I'm growing increasingly tired of the HD-obsessed, pixel-counting, 'graphics are everything' mentality that seems to pervade gaming communities these days.

Posted by Scarlet_Rogue

@dankempster: It's a valid thing to be tired of, but then it raises the question of what would sell you on a new gaming system?

Posted by Osiris

Coudn't care less, I never cared about backwards compatibility, new generation means new games. If I really want to play old-gen game, I will hook up the old system and play it that way for nostalgic reasons. You guys are such whiners.

Posted by Phoenix87

First no Gamecube and now this. Wii U is turning into F U.

Posted by Claude

@dankempster: To me, people are just looking for a reason to hate on Nintendo. I bet half these people don't play Gamecube games and also say their Wii is collecting dust and has no games. It leaves me scratching my head. But if Nintendo did release Super Mario Galaxy 1&2 in HD, I would buy it along with many other HD revisions from the Wii catalog of games.

Posted by HarlequinRiot
@dankempster: On the one hand, I agree. But the main issue for me is that playing the Wii on an HDTV looks terrible and really detracts from the experience to be honest. You're better off finding an older tv and playing them there. So while in that sense, it's a shame the Wii U won't upscale the games (it can't be that hard, can it? free emulators have been doing it for years). In the long run, though, it doesn't matter. Not sure why people are getting in a tiffy about this.
Posted by Krakn3Dfx

Seems silly that it won't do this seeing that you can do it on the PC using Dolphin, so obviously it's capable. Got to figure it would take almost no work on their part to make this happen on the Wii U if they wanted to.

Nintendo seems bent on making it it harder and harder for me to be interested in their new console.

Posted by solarisdeschain

This is not an issue. Stop pretending that it is.

Posted by HatKing

Wow, really?  This seems like a huge oversight, if it is true.  I was sort of looking forward to seeing Super Mario Galaxy in HD.  Oh well, this clearly isn't the selling point.

Posted by dankempster

@Scarlet_Rogue: I guess I'm in a very, very small minority that wouldn't mind if we didn't see big leaps forward graphically in the next generation of consoles. Ultimately, the thing that sells a system to me is the games that are (or will be) available for it. I realise a lot of people aren't like me and they want visible returns for investing in a new system. Graphics are the most obvious and instant way of providing that return to the consumer, I guess. I just don't personally see how refusing to upscale last-generation games is a big deal.

Don't misunderstand me, I'm not saying I don't like pretty things. I like a gorgeous game as much as the next guy. It just bothers me when it gets taken to such extremes as people pixel-counting to ensure that a game is running in 'true HD', or people saying that something 'looks like a PS2 game', completely ignorant of the fact that hey, a lot of PS2 games still look pretty good, even today. Ultimately graphics are an aspect of the game. They're not the game itself, and they're not a de-facto measurement of a game's overall quality. Choosing not to upscale those Wii games isn't going to make them somehow worse, but judging by the reactions here, that's what a lot of people seem to think.

Posted by Black_Rose

Jesus christ, most of you people don't even play Wii games, stop acting like it's a problem. 

Posted by JazGalaxy
@dankempster said:

@Scarlet_Rogue: I guess I'm in a very, very small minority that wouldn't mind if we didn't see big leaps forward graphically in the next generation of consoles. Ultimately, the thing that sells a system to me is the games that are (or will be) available for it. I realise a lot of people aren't like me and they want visible returns for investing in a new system. Graphics are the most obvious and instant way of providing that return to the consumer, I guess. I just don't personally see how refusing to upscale last-generation games is a big deal.

Don't misunderstand me, I'm not saying I don't like pretty things. I like a gorgeous game as much as the next guy. It just bothers me when it gets taken to such extremes as people pixel-counting to ensure that a game is running in 'true HD', or people saying that something 'looks like a PS2 game', completely ignorant of the fact that hey, a lot of PS2 games still look pretty good, even today. Ultimately graphics are an aspect of the game. They're not the game itself, and they're not a de-facto measurement of a game's overall quality. Choosing not to upscale those Wii games isn't going to make them somehow worse, but judging by the reactions here, that's what a lot of people seem to think.

Also, one of the reasons graphics aren't as exciting as they used to be is because every game makes incremental improvements instead of making generational improvements when the hardware dictates it's beneficial.
Posted by Scarlet_Rogue

@dankempster: I agree mostly. I think the bigger deal is that there's really nothing actually coming out for this new system, so this is how upscaling and Gamecube compatibility become more of an issue. I will say though they won't upscale it good that the wii games are at least compatible.

Posted by Whiskeyjack

Seriously?... lame.

Posted by Claude

@Scarlet_Rogue said:

@dankempster: I agree mostly. I think the bigger deal is that there's really nothing actually coming out for this new system, so this is how upscaling and Gamecube compatibility become more of an issue. I will say though they won't upscale it good that the wii games are at least compatible.

How can you say nothing is coming out for the new system when it's not going to be released until probably fall of next year? Do you work for Nintendo and know something we don't?

Posted by Scarlet_Rogue

@Claude: That's my point. How can you be exicted for something which as of now, is just a box that plays wii games. I think any hate/praise is premature. Maybe next E3 when they have more solid things to show for it.

Posted by ttocs

@Burb: Quit it with the first crap.

Posted by Claude

@ttocs said:

@Burb: Quit it with the first crap.

Quit it with the calling out the first crap by calling out the first crap.

Posted by TheHBK

At least the games will still look better, all I wanted at the very minimum was HDMI.  Component makes shit look like even more shit.

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