Okay...so, where's the spoiler?  Don't put a spoiler tag and then deny me the spoiler.  I need muh spoilerz!

I just watched the ending on Youtube and it does take a somewhat Da Vinci code like take on historical facts like Ryan mentioned on the latest Bombcast. 
  
I haven't played the game yet, but I'm sure it will make more sense when I see it in context.

So basically, they are referencing the Egyptians (as they worship Ra, the Sun God)...which leads to the belief that alien technology is what built the pyramids blah blah yadda yadda...as well as linking in the releasing of sin via creation in Paradise (i.e., Adam and Eve...or the "Golden Apple"). 
 
Yeah, I hate that they try to act all intellectual because they can reference all kinds of conspiracy theories and crazy shit that any monkey can find on YouTube.  Oh well, my question is whether the gameplay is more varied than the last game.  That's all I care about, to be honest.

", my question is whether the gameplay is more varied than the last game.  That's all I care about, to be honest. "

"So basically, they are referencing the Egyptians (as they worship Ra, the Sun God)...which leads to the belief that alien technology is what built the pyramids blah blah yadda yadda...as well as linking in the releasing of sin via creation in Paradise (i.e., Adam and Eve...or the "Golden Apple").  Yeah, I hate that they try to act all intellectual because they can reference all kinds of conspiracy theories and crazy shit that any monkey can find on YouTube.  Oh well, my question is whether the gameplay is more varied than the last game.  That's all I care about, to be honest. "

I...what..aliens...I shall read no more

Okay so, what I got from it is that there were people before humans, and that these people then made humans using the Piece of Eden. However, they manufactured the humans so they would obey them as long as the Piece of Eden was in their possession. Adam and Eve find out and steal the Piece of Eden, releasing the humans from their figurative chains, and leading a rebellion against them. So, in a sense, without realizing it, the "Gods" for lack of a better term, were the first Templars and Adam and Eve, along with all who followed, were the first Assassins. And so they waged war. The "Gods" were stronger but the humans were way more numerous, so the "Gods" were fighting a losing battle. Then, out of nowhere, something that no one expected happened. Some kind of catastrophe involving the sun caused some kind of mass genocide, but there were survivors. Then, realizing that they should stop fighting and rebuild, the "Gods" and humans united. The "Gods" died out and after a looooooooooong time that really happened transformed from truth into myth and speculation since there was no written language. The "Gods" become actual Gods and the sun becomes some sort of be all end all for civilization. The Eastern Hemisphere "evolves" but the Western Hemisphere, or at least the middle of it, still know what's up. But then the conquerers come and destroy nearly everything, leaving only the calender that has the fateful day when it might all happen again--12/21/2012. So anyway, now nobody remembers and the world is doomed once more, except this time there are no "Gods" to protect the humans. However, the "Gods" foresaw this and put temples, or "Vaults" all over the planet to retell the actual tale. HOWEVER, Ezio finds it much too soon, before he can actually do anything about it. The "Gods" foresaw THIS too, and knew that Desmond would revisit the memories of his ancestors so they made sure that in the temple they let him know that they were talking to HIM and not Ezio. It can be assumed that Ezio passed this information down through his ancestors as well, which is probably why Desmonds parents knew it was so vital to keep him safe. So now the threat has shifted from the Templars ruling the world with the Piece of Eden to the sun destroying the world altogether. There's a catch though. Just like the first Vault that Ezio found, you need Pieces of Eden to gain entry to all the other ones. So now that Desmond has all his ancestors' abilities, along with the hidden blade, the search is on, both for another Piece of Eden and the Vaults themselves. Oh, and the Templars may or may not be oblivious to the fact that their doom is imminent. Whether they seek to just rule the world with the Pieces of Eden or save the world with the Pieces of Eden and THEN rule it remains to be seen. I think they know though. The satillite mentioned on one of the computers needed the Piece of Eden to function. I'm just not sure if it's to broadcast the mind-control effects or display the locations of the temples. Maybe the former, because they definitely want dominion like their ancestors. Maybe the latter, because Ezio did the exact same thing with the Piece of Eden when he found the location of the first Vault on the codex pages. Anyway, what I'm trying to get at is that Assassin's Creed III should involve an Eternal Darkness-esque search for the Pieces of Eden, locating and entering the remaining Vaults, and reconciling with the Templars. Or destroying them once and for all. Should be fun. :D

" Did anyone else beat the game yet? I'm soooo confused!!! Where would Ubisoft even get an idea like this from? "

" @Giuseppe said:

" Did anyone else beat the game yet? I'm soooo confused!!! Where would Ubisoft even get an idea like this from? "

if you watch Subject 16's "Truth" video it all makes sense.  or you can at least see the ending coming. "

"Okay so, what I got from it is that there were people before humans, and that these people then made humans using the Piece of Eden. However, they manufactured the humans so they would obey them as long as the Piece of Eden was in their possession. Adam and Eve find out and steal the Piece of Eden, releasing the humans from their figurative chains, and leading a rebellion against them. So, in a sense, without realizing it, the "Gods" for lack of a better term, were the first Templars and Adam and Eve, along with all who followed, were the first Assassins. And so they waged war. The "Gods" were stronger but the humans were way more numerous, so the "Gods" were fighting a losing battle. Then, out of nowhere, something that no one expected happened. Some kind of catastrophe involving the sun caused some kind of mass genocide, but there were survivors. Then, realizing that they should stop fighting and rebuild, the "Gods" and humans united. The "Gods" died out and after a looooooooooong time that really happened transformed from truth into myth and speculation since there was no written language. The "Gods" become actual Gods and the sun becomes some sort of be all end all for civilization. The Eastern Hemisphere "evolves" but the Western Hemisphere, or at least the middle of it, still know what's up. But then the conquerers come and destroy nearly everything, leaving only the calender that has the fateful day when it might all happen again--12/21/2012. So anyway, now nobody remembers and the world is doomed once more, except this time there are no "Gods" to protect the humans. However, the "Gods" foresaw this and put temples, or "Vaults" all over the planet to retell the actual tale. HOWEVER, Ezio finds it much too soon, before he can actually do anything about it. The "Gods" foresaw THIS too, and knew that Desmond would revisit the memories of his ancestors so they made sure that in the temple they let him know that they were talking to HIM and not Ezio. It can be assumed that Ezio passed this information down through his ancestors as well, which is probably why Desmonds parents knew it was so vital to keep him safe. So now the threat has shifted from the Templars ruling the world with the Piece of Eden to the sun destroying the world altogether. There's a catch though. Just like the first Vault that Ezio found, you need Pieces of Eden to gain entry to all the other ones. So now that Desmond has all his ancestors' abilities, along with the hidden blade, the search is on, both for another Piece of Eden and the Vaults themselves. Oh, and the Templars may or may not be oblivious to the fact that their doom is imminent. Whether they seek to just rule the world with the Pieces of Eden or save the world with the Pieces of Eden and THEN rule it remains to be seen. I think they know though. The satillite mentioned on one of the computers needed the Piece of Eden to function. I'm just not sure if it's to broadcast the mind-control effects or display the locations of the temples. Maybe the former, because they definitely want dominion like their ancestors. Maybe the latter, because Ezio did the exact same thing with the Piece of Eden when he found the location of the first Vault on the codex pages. Anyway, what I'm trying to get at is that Assassin's Creed III should involve an Eternal Darkness-esque search for the Pieces of Eden, locating and entering the remaining Vaults, and reconciling with the Templars. Or destroying them once and for all. Should be fun. :D "

" @Giuseppe said:

" Did anyone else beat the game yet? I'm soooo confused!!! Where would Ubisoft even get an idea like this from? "

if you watch Subject 16's "Truth" video it all makes sense.  or you can at least see the ending coming. "

" Okay so, what I got from it is that there were people before humans, and that these people then made humans using the Piece of Eden. However, they manufactured the humans so they would obey them as long as the Piece of Eden was in their possession. Adam and Eve find out and steal the Piece of Eden, releasing the humans from their figurative chains, and leading a rebellion against them. So, in a sense, without realizing it, the "Gods" for lack of a better term, were the first Templars and Adam and Eve, along with all who followed, were the first Assassins. And so they waged war. The "Gods" were stronger but the humans were way more numerous, so the "Gods" were fighting a losing battle. Then, out of nowhere, something that no one expected happened. Some kind of catastrophe involving the sun caused some kind of mass genocide, but there were survivors. Then, realizing that they should stop fighting and rebuild, the "Gods" and humans united. The "Gods" died out and after a looooooooooong time that really happened transformed from truth into myth and speculation since there was no written language. The "Gods" become actual Gods and the sun becomes some sort of be all end all for civilization. The Eastern Hemisphere "evolves" but the Western Hemisphere, or at least the middle of it, still know what's up. But then the conquerers come and destroy nearly everything, leaving only the calender that has the fateful day when it might all happen again--12/21/2012. So anyway, now nobody remembers and the world is doomed once more, except this time there are no "Gods" to protect the humans. However, the "Gods" foresaw this and put temples, or "Vaults" all over the planet to retell the actual tale. HOWEVER, Ezio finds it much too soon, before he can actually do anything about it. The "Gods" foresaw THIS too, and knew that Desmond would revisit the memories of his ancestors so they made sure that in the temple they let him know that they were talking to HIM and not Ezio. It can be assumed that Ezio passed this information down through his ancestors as well, which is probably why Desmonds parents knew it was so vital to keep him safe. So now the threat has shifted from the Templars ruling the world with the Piece of Eden to the sun destroying the world altogether. There's a catch though. Just like the first Vault that Ezio found, you need Pieces of Eden to gain entry to all the other ones. So now that Desmond has all his ancestors' abilities, along with the hidden blade, the search is on, both for another Piece of Eden and the Vaults themselves. Oh, and the Templars may or may not be oblivious to the fact that their doom is imminent. Whether they seek to just rule the world with the Pieces of Eden or save the world with the Pieces of Eden and THEN rule it remains to be seen. I think they know though. The satillite mentioned on one of the computers needed the Piece of Eden to function. I'm just not sure if it's to broadcast the mind-control effects or display the locations of the temples. Maybe the former, because they definitely want dominion like their ancestors. Maybe the latter, because Ezio did the exact same thing with the Piece of Eden when he found the location of the first Vault on the codex pages. Anyway, what I'm trying to get at is that Assassin's Creed III should involve an Eternal Darkness-esque search for the Pieces of Eden, locating and entering the remaining Vaults, and reconciling with the Templars. Or destroying them once and for all. Should be fun. :D "

I will make this make sense. 
Stargaterix. 
Now you understand.

The game rocks and I did enjoy the ending.

The Ones Who Came Before are aliens, they came here and did some genetic modification on early hominids (aka humanoids) to make them more like The Ones Who Came Before, both in terms of appearance and mentally. Despite having nigh godly technological prowess, they totally forgot that the sun was important, and a solar flare happened which somehow caused a pole shift (which could never happen in real life), and then the pole shift somehow destroyed the earth? I don't know how that follows, it doesn't make sense, Earth undergoes pole shifts periodically, and when it happens, there are never any mass-extinctions that coincide with it.

But Anyway, the aliens somehow magically predicted the future, and knew that Desmond would view the recording in the Animus, and wanted to warn you about it, telling you to go raid some temples, Indianna Jones style, to find a magical plot device that will save the world.

I liked it. So we can expect Assassins Creed 3 in 2012.

What a let down. No hook there for me to play the third game.

" What a let down. No hook there for me to play the third game. "

So why are the aliens warning Desmond 500 years before his birth to his relative Ezio about themselves then? That was the part that made no sense. At the end of the game Desmond and Lucy and the other two scientists are talking about how the real fight is against those aliens, but the aliens seemed bent on telling Desmond that they were coming lol. So if their nubers are so few, why tell the one guy that can beat you that you are coming? Made less sense than the first game, but at least the game was done way better this time around. So glad I rented this and didn't buy it. What a waste of $60 that would have been.

" @The_Dude_Abides said:

" What a let down. No hook there for me to play the third game. "

Uhh. there is a very large hook....pay attention more. "

" @CL60 said:

" @The_Dude_Abides said:

" What a let down. No hook there for me to play the third game. "

Uhh. there is a very large hook....pay attention more. "

 Duuur. Read my post again, no hook for ME to play the third game.   "

" @The_Dude_Abides said:

" @CL60 said:

" @The_Dude_Abides said:

" What a let down. No hook there for me to play the third game. "

Uhh. there is a very large hook....pay attention more. "

 Duuur. Read my post again, no hook for ME to play the third game.   "

That doesn't even make any sense. There is either a hook or there isn't a hook, and the game has a big hook at the end to make people want more. It's irrelevant if you don't enjoy the game enough to be interested in the next one. There IS a hook. "

You fist fight the Pope in the Sixtine Chapel! Who cares about the rest?! I CAN HEADBUTT THE POPE!!

I like how the pope was inexplicably the toughest fighter in the entire world, tougher than swathes of professional fighters that you taken on in full plate armor, even in a fist fight.

Well all that fat could make for good armor... 
 
Surprisingly agile being the fatass he was, but oh well. 
 
 
Dude anyone else find it kinda cool you strangle him to death? Seems like both an anticlimatic, but satisfyingly cold way of killing someone. It's like "I'm not gonna honor your ass by giving you a cool death, I'll just choke the shit outta ya!"

" So why are the aliens warning Desmond 500 years before his birth to his relative Ezio about themselves then? That was the part that made no sense. At the end of the game Desmond and Lucy and the other two scientists are talking about how the real fight is against those aliens, but the aliens seemed bent on telling Desmond that they were coming lol. So if their nubers are so few, why tell the one guy that can beat you that you are coming? Made less sense than the first game, but at least the game was done way better this time around. So glad I rented this and didn't buy it. What a waste of $60 that would have been. "

God is a hot chick lady thing and I got to fist fight with the fucking pope best ending Evar!
 
And the tease for the third one where you FINALLY got to fight as Desmond was epic I am already stoked for the third one I wish it wasn't 2-3 years away :(

  Dude, I really like the way you summarise, And I really like the way you are defending a great game, And I really like the way you process the information, But please, please use the enter key, It makes it much easier to read than a body of text,  
 
And maybe people will read it and not skip because tl/dr, I hate when people just write that, 

" Okay so, what I got from it is that there were people before humans, and that these people then made humans using the Piece of Eden. 

However, they manufactured the humans so they would obey them as long as the Piece of Eden was in their possession. Adam and Eve find out and steal the Piece of Eden, releasing the humans from their figurative chains, and leading a rebellion against them. So, in a sense, without realizing it, the "Gods" for lack of a better term, were the first Templars and Adam and Eve, along with all who followed, were the first Assassins.  

And so they waged war. The "Gods" were stronger but the humans were way more numerous, so the "Gods" were fighting a losing battle. Then, out of nowhere, something that no one expected happened. Some kind of catastrophe involving the sun caused some kind of mass genocide, but there were survivors. 
 
Then, realizing that they should stop fighting and rebuild, the "Gods" and humans united. The "Gods" died out and after a looooooooooong time that really happened transformed from truth into myth and speculation since there was no written language. The "Gods" become actual Gods and the sun becomes some sort of be all end all for civilization. 
 
The Eastern Hemisphere "evolves" but the Western Hemisphere, or at least the middle of it, still know what's up. But then the conquerers come and destroy nearly everything, leaving only the calender that has the fateful day when it might all happen again--12/21/2012. So anyway, now nobody remembers and the world is doomed once more, except this time there are no "Gods" to protect the humans.
 
However, the "Gods" foresaw this and put temples, or "Vaults" all over the planet to retell the actual tale. HOWEVER, Ezio finds it much too soon, before he can actually do anything about it. The "Gods" foresaw THIS too, and knew that Desmond would revisit the memories of his ancestors so they made sure that in the temple they let him know that they were talking to HIM and not Ezio. It can be assumed that Ezio passed this information down through his ancestors as well, which is probably why Desmonds parents knew it was so vital to keep him safe. So now the threat has shifted from the Templars ruling the world with the Piece of Eden to the sun destroying the world altogether. 
 
There's a catch though. Just like the first Vault that Ezio found, you need Pieces of Eden to gain entry to all the other ones. So now that Desmond has all his ancestors' abilities, along with the hidden blade, the search is on, both for another Piece of Eden and the Vaults themselves. 
 
Oh, and the Templars may or may not be oblivious to the fact that their doom is imminent. Whether they seek to just rule the world with the Pieces of Eden or save the world with the Pieces of Eden and THEN rule it remains to be seen. I think they know though. The satillite mentioned on one of the computers needed the Piece of Eden to function. I'm just not sure if it's to broadcast the mind-control effects or display the locations of the temples. Maybe the former, because they definitely want dominion like their ancestors. Maybe the latter, because Ezio did the exact same thing with the Piece of Eden when he found the location of the first Vault on the codex pages. 
 
Anyway, what I'm trying to get at is that Assassin's Creed III should involve an Eternal Darkness-esque search for the Pieces of Eden, locating and entering the remaining Vaults, and reconciling with the Templars. Or destroying them once and for all. Should be fun. :D "

It's all pretty contrived...
 
Didn't whatever-the-cyberpunker-assassin's-name is, tell Desmond that the sun would probably not scorch the Earth?  I thought that she was predicting some sort of solar flare, EMPish type calamity, or something.
 
If anyone is counting, I think it would be ill to see an assassin running around in an American Civil War type environment.  
 
Victorian could be neat too.

" @CptBedlam: I did touch on the sun being a piece of eden or that al the pieces could attract the sun in some way. and I have seen on another site that the emails in the game indicate that they have until a certain date to get this piece of eden that creates illusions and also subject 16 writes that this dooms day happens on the same day. And when you said that Desmonds parents knew about this information and kept him safe for it could be right but knowing this information or not he was the son of assassins so he would be hunted down anyway.  I didn't say they where aliens I said that they were not aliens.  So the vault that Ezio found is most probably the "temples" Desmond needs to locate. Also in an email on assassins creed they say there is a piece of eden that can warp time and they test it this could be how the Gods know about Desmond specificaly and that in Desmonds time there will be the means and resources to find these vaults. "

They aren't Gods, they're Sufficiently Advanced Aliens .

" They aren't Gods, they're Sufficiently Advanced Aliens . "

Hey, if anyone remembers, in AC1 in one of the writings in blood it mentions a Japanese island reminiscent to Atlantis. Also, Vidic mentions some of the temples were land-masses that are "gone". Since one of the Pieces of Eden control time......i am willing to bet that time travel to different places all over the world will occur in AC3. If anyone finds this idea wrong, please comment.

What? Why do the pieces of Eden control time? When did we find that out?
 
@tcrown7:
 
I thought it was established that they came from somewhere else, and visited Earth to uplift the proto-humans?

  @adam_grif said:

" What? Why do the pieces of Eden control time? When did we find that out?  @tcrown7:  I thought it was established that they came from somewhere else, and visited Earth to uplift the proto-humans? "

@blackoutz79

" Hey, if anyone remembers, in AC1 in one of the writings in blood it mentions a Japanese island reminiscent to Atlantis. Also, Vidic mentions some of the temples were land-masses that are "gone". Since one of the Pieces of Eden control time......i am willing to bet that time travel to different places all over the world will occur in AC3. If anyone finds this idea wrong, please comment. "

I think in the game, God will still exist as a singular entity. The spin on it however is that God created the Pieces of Eden, and Minerva and her race, and in turn Minerva created the humans. When asked if they were gods, Minerva merely laughed and said no, so I assume that the Pieces of Eden needed to have been created originally by God.

Why does God need to be included at all? The Ones Who Came Before are extremely advanced, and I see no reason why they didn't/couldn't have created the Pieces of Eden themselves. Did I miss something?

" Why does God need to be included at all? The Ones Who Came Before are extremely advanced, and I see no reason why they didn't/couldn't have created the Pieces of Eden themselves. Did I miss something? "

I don't really think logic is coming into this at all, you're talking about a race of people who mock humans for their minds not being advanced enough to undertand them, yet had the pieces of Eden stolen from them. Apparently we were "many", but they never thought to build a friggin machinegun or something. The TRUTH clip shows humans in some kind of forge beating metal with a hammer, so they clearly aren't approaching our modern day level of technological sophistication. 
 
Secondly, saying you're not a God does not mean that there are Gods, that they believe there are Gods, or anything of the such. You're reading something into it that isn't there.

They make electricity with it, send Lance Armstrong to the moon with it, and lets H.

" I don't really think logic is coming into this at all, you're talking about a race of people who mock humans for their minds not being advanced enough to undertand them, yet had the pieces of Eden stolen from them. Apparently we were "many", but they never thought to build a friggin machinegun or something. The TRUTH clip shows humans in some kind of forge beating metal with a hammer, so they clearly aren't approaching our modern day level of technological sophistication.   Secondly, saying you're not a God does not mean that there are Gods, that they believe there are Gods, or anything of the such. You're reading something into it that isn't there. "