Assassin's III a true fallow up to the series

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#1 Edited by ShinjiEx (624 posts) -

I did not like Ezio "COD" journey

Rented played finish part II was like meh more of the same

Rented Brotherhood just an expensive expansion was boring never finished

Revelation from what I hear fell flat to busy playing other games

So for me Assassin's Creed III is the sequel to part I that is awesome and still the best to date

that is till well hopefully part III which is actually an all new game

#2 Posted by JasonR86 (9653 posts) -

Wasn't 'fallow' a monster in Skyrim?

#3 Edited by Abendlaender (2782 posts) -

So you didn't like three games out of four but are excited for the fifth?

.......

#4 Posted by FluxWaveZ (19321 posts) -

I don't understand what "COD" journey means.

#5 Edited by ShinjiEx (624 posts) -
@JasonR86: Pretty sure there is the more I think about it... LOL
 
@Abendlaender: Hopefully it's not RE5 all over again *shivers*
  
@FluxWaveZ: Releasing the same game ever year with more bells & whistles
#6 Edited by BisonHero (6407 posts) -

@FluxWaveZ said:

I don't understand what "COD" journey means.

Everyone knows that Ezio Journey's nickname is "COD". He is quite the fisherman.

No relation to Ezio Auditore da Firenze.

#7 Posted by MariachiMacabre (7074 posts) -

ACII is superior to the original in every way. This seems like a strange attempt at trolling.

#8 Posted by Abendlaender (2782 posts) -

@BisonHero:

Ezio always seemed pretty fishy to me

#9 Posted by ShinjiEx (624 posts) -
@MariachiMacabre: That's your opinion dude! but not fact to which ACI is better then ACII 
#10 Edited by MarkWahlberg (4599 posts) -

@JasonR86 said:

Wasn't 'fallow' a monster in Skyrim?

No, he means fallow like, 'your fields lay fallow'. Untended land. What he's trying to say is, there's a farming mini-game in this one.

AssFarm.

#11 Posted by MariachiMacabre (7074 posts) -
@ShinjiEx
@MariachiMacabre: That's your opinion dude! but not fact to which ACI is better then ACII 
In which ways do you consider 1 to be better? All one is is repeat 3 quests for intel and the assassinate a guy. The setting was a bit more exotic but Altair is a prick the entire time and I never felt attached to him at all. He's in his predicament because he murdered innocent people. Ezio, meanwhile, became an assassin after he watched his kid brother die and was genuinely likeable.
#12 Posted by Dad_Is_A_Zombie (1225 posts) -

@ShinjiEx said:

Rented played finish part II was like meh more of the same

If you truly believe AC 2 was the same as AC 1 then it is very difficult to take your opinion seriously.

#13 Posted by Ghostiet (5243 posts) -
#14 Posted by Snail (8593 posts) -

For it to be a "true follow up" to the first game it has to have challenge in it. Starting right with Assassin's Creed II they got increasingly easier. The first one is still my favorite in the series, even if it doesn't have air assassinations in it.

#15 Posted by face15 (1285 posts) -

You're weird.

#16 Posted by Bourbon_Warrior (4523 posts) -

Ac2 saved the franchise, I hated 1 and freaking loved 2

#17 Posted by ShaggE (6403 posts) -
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#18 Edited by Sarge506 (87 posts) -

This guy needs to write a weekly newspaper column.

#19 Posted by mazik765 (2315 posts) -

@JasonR86 said:

Wasn't 'fallow' a monster in Skyrim?

You heard it here first. The larger conspiracy, we discover in AC3, is that the Templar's are actually run by the fallow from Skyrim and Connor turns out to be a Dragonborn.

#20 Posted by AhmadMetallic (18955 posts) -

wat is happen in dis thred?

#21 Posted by billyhoush (1192 posts) -

HAY GUYS FALLOW ME ON TWEETER

#22 Posted by ShinjiEx (624 posts) -
@Bourbon_Warrior said:
Ac2 saved the franchise, I hated 1 and freaking loved 2
All hope is gone.
#23 Posted by ShadowConqueror (3050 posts) -

I would say the Assassin's Creed series is anything but "fallow" considering how they make yearly installments.

#24 Posted by SethPhotopoulos (5211 posts) -

This may sound mean and I apologize but you write the way Tommy Wiseau speaks.

#25 Posted by PeasantAbuse (5138 posts) -

ShinjiEx has the best mini bio.

#26 Edited by BasketSnake (1186 posts) -

My sources tell me work has begun on AC 4

#27 Posted by BBQBram (2212 posts) -

I liked the austere tone of the first game, and the aesthetic. While the premise was still goofy as fuck, it was a bit more serious.

That said the game's structure sucked and the sequels have improved upon that and added actual gameplay in spades. I even liked the spin-off collectathons more than the first one.

#28 Posted by Sean2206 (264 posts) -

AC2 was so much better than the first in every way I went back to try and replay 1 a while ago and you just can't. I enjoyed brotherhood just as much but revelations did fall a bit flat. I'd say AC3 is the true follow up toAC 2, yes and I'd even say brotherhood as it was just as good. In my opinion all 3 ezio games are good and have good stories but you can't say AC3 is the true follow up to the original as if anything it will be more like the ezio games than the original and you can't really skip 3 games in a series and go from the 1st to the fifth.

#29 Posted by DJJoeJoe (1323 posts) -

There is a vast difference between how Ubisoft handles the AC franchise and how Activision slaps around whatever studio they feel like forcing into making new CoD games. Ubisoft has multiple studios working together in a way that hasn't happened before that I'm aware of, this is why they have been able to deliver these massive games so quickly. While progression of the systems within AC don't jump as far as you'd see otherwise, the games themselves are more than worth the time investing in making them (they are better than the 1-2 year dev time allots).

#30 Posted by Morrow (1829 posts) -

@MariachiMacabre said:

ACII is superior to the original in every way. This seems like a strange attempt at trolling.

ACII is superior in terms of freedom and gameplay mechanics. But somehow the first game is still my favourite. Altair is just a way cooler character in every way than Ezio. Also the setting and atmosphere in the first one were tighter in my opinion, maybe just because it was more linear than its followers.

#31 Posted by MilleRD (8 posts) -
@Morrow said:

@MariachiMacabre said:

ACII is superior to the original in every way. This seems like a strange attempt at trolling.

ACII is superior in terms of freedom and gameplay mechanics. But somehow the first game is still my favourite. Altair is just a way cooler character in every way than Ezio. Also the setting and atmosphere in the first one were tighter in my opinion, maybe just because it was more linear than its followers.

In what way do you think the first was more linear? I always felt like I had more freedom in I than I did in II and especially Brotherhood. When it came to the actual assassinations and you'd done all of your digging into the victim the game basically pointed you to where the guy was and from there you could kill him however you wanted, you could try and be stealthy or you could go in and kill the guy and all of the guards that got in your way if you wanted. In Brotherhood I specifically remember being told exactly where to go and it felt like a lot of the freedom I liked in the earlier games was taken away, for example climbing the Vatican and having some marker constantly update to tell me exactly how I needed to climb this building and do this mission, because if I didn't it would fail me because I'd desync from the memory.
 
If anyone who has played Revelations reads this, is it worth playing? I played I, II and Brotherhood, but everything I saw of Revelations put me off it and I was feeling a bit burned out on the series (because I don't like Ezio). Should I play it before I get III or am I ok just going to a wiki and reading the plot of the story and skipping the game entirely?
#32 Posted by Morrow (1829 posts) -

@MilleRD:

Well, AC I was all about the killing, while in AC II you could upgrade Monteriggioni, buy new weapons and armor, and do a lot more side-missions. It had more game elements than the first one, that's what I meant :)

#33 Posted by MilleRD (8 posts) -
@Morrow
 
That's fair, other than the outfits and capes I'd forgotten all about the upgrades you could make to your arsenal and home.
#34 Posted by DharmaBum (1049 posts) -

@Morrow: I also prefer the first AC for its setting and simplicity. This article does a great job explaining why. Somewhat long read, but basically delves into what Ubisoft got right about the first game in terms of it being an authentic assassin simulator.

#35 Posted by probablytuna (3604 posts) -

@MilleRD said:

If anyone who has played Revelations reads this, is it worth playing? I played I, II and Brotherhood, but everything I saw of Revelations put me off it and I was feeling a bit burned out on the series (because I don't like Ezio). Should I play it before I get III or am I ok just going to a wiki and reading the plot of the story and skipping the game entirely?

I finished it a few months ago in preparation for ACIII and I think it was good but not great compared to Brotherhood which I felt is the best AC experience so far. It just did too little to change the formula while the new additions weren't that significant (bombs and den defence). Still, the introduction of the hookblade was awesome and made climbing buildings faster and more satisfying (something I kinda didn't like too much in the previous games). Even if you just want to know what happens in the game, I don't know if it warrants a purchase because story-wise it's pretty much a side story with no real revelations, contrary to the game's subtitle.

#36 Posted by Morrow (1829 posts) -

@DharmaBum: Wow, great read. He totally nailed it, although I wouldn't call Altair a "shallow Hashshashin".

To me he didn't seem like an empty shell to play pretend. As far as I remember, he had a great deal of personality and went from the arrogant, cold-hearted jerk that he was to a more understanding and wise person. That became especially apparent when he had a conversation with Malik before a mission, where he apologized for his behaviour that killed Maliks brother and cost him his arm.

But maybe that meant more to me because I'm a woman and don't think myself into a male protagonist, but watch him on his journey and try to connect with him.

#37 Posted by project343 (2816 posts) -

I don't know what to say. Brotherhood, to me, is the best that the series has ever been; the original Assassin's Creed is the worst that the series has ever been. Here's to hoping that AC3 has more in common with Brotherhood than AC1.

#38 Posted by ImHungry (377 posts) -

The real question here is how do you deem AC3 as the true follow-up when you haven't actually played the full game?

Unless you actually meant 'fallow' in reference to the outdoor setting and are suggesting some sort of farming context or farmer assassinations, in which case my apologies and you can keep your AC3 and give me more real men's farming.

#39 Posted by project343 (2816 posts) -

@ShinjiEx said:

@Bourbon_Warrior said:
Ac2 saved the franchise, I hated 1 and freaking loved 2
All hope is gone.

Maaaaan. I recommend getting out while you can. People are going to troll you into nonexistence for that opinion.

#40 Posted by Video_Game_King (36272 posts) -

I guess continuing the storyline isn't enough to be considered a true follow-up.

#41 Posted by Morrow (1829 posts) -

@project343 said:

@ShinjiEx said:

@Bourbon_Warrior said:
Ac2 saved the franchise, I hated 1 and freaking loved 2
All hope is gone.

Maaaaan. I recommend getting out while you can. People are going to troll you into nonexistence for that opinion.

trololololo :D

#42 Posted by Gladiator_Games (444 posts) -
@JasonR86 I remember Fallow Wurm cost 2 colourless and 2 green for a 4/4 that would bury one of your lands when it came into play...
#43 Posted by thedj93 (1237 posts) -

your spelling is so good but your grammar is so bad D:

brotherhood has been the zenith of the series so far give a fuck what you think

#44 Posted by RAMBO604 (137 posts) -

I can understand disliking Brotherhood and Revelations as more of the same but damn I cannot comprehend how you can apply that to the jump from AC1 to AC2. AC2 changed just about everything aside from movement controls. The minute to minute gameplay, mission structure, and story structure are all radically different in the second game. In the first game you did 3 of 6 missions 9 times, then the assassinations were different. The one advantage I would give AC1 is that the storyline assassinations are far superior in 1. They required planning and went shit went belly up you either rolled with it or you failed. In AC2 they were more the "there is one way to do it" variety and messing up isn't as big of a penalty.

#45 Posted by phantomzxro (1571 posts) -

Well i say sure if you never been fond of Ezio but AC2 and brotherhood were not bad in the least. I know many did not care for AC 1 but i enjoyed it a good deal to me the series break down like this.

AC1 - Game play did get repetitive but i really enjoyed the bigger focus on story and planning out a kill (assassinations)

AC2 - Improved on game play in almost every way and gave the player opinions. Story focus took a hit and planning out assassinations was gone which was my biggest problem with AC2, felt a little too GTA formula (Go here, kill this dude).

AC Brotherhood - Made small improvements to the already vast improvements of AC2 in the realm of game play. Training assassins and using them in combat was a great addition and was really fun. The story seemed like filler almost to the point of feeling like AC2.5. The missions gave bonuses for having creative kills or stealthy kills which returned the assassination like planning of the first game at least to a point.

AC Revelations - More or less the same game play as brotherhood. New location and new toys to play with. Story still felt very filler even if it did wrap up Ezio and Altiar story. For a game called revelations there were a big lack of revelations and nothing really big even happen to even keep you hooked into the fiction of the story. So all in all revelations was pretty disappointing and may have been the game that was stretched too thin in terms of being a stop gap to AC3.

#46 Posted by evanbower (1210 posts) -
#47 Posted by Fredchuckdave (5353 posts) -

@evanbower: Nice catch. Also yay necros

#48 Posted by Jumbs (243 posts) -

hey mate hows it going

#49 Posted by MilleRD (8 posts) -
@probablytuna said:

@MilleRD said:

If anyone who has played Revelations reads this, is it worth playing? I played I, II and Brotherhood, but everything I saw of Revelations put me off it and I was feeling a bit burned out on the series (because I don't like Ezio). Should I play it before I get III or am I ok just going to a wiki and reading the plot of the story and skipping the game entirely?

I finished it a few months ago in preparation for ACIII and I think it was good but not great compared to Brotherhood which I felt is the best AC experience so far. It just did too little to change the formula while the new additions weren't that significant (bombs and den defence). Still, the introduction of the hookblade was awesome and made climbing buildings faster and more satisfying (something I kinda didn't like too much in the previous games). Even if you just want to know what happens in the game, I don't know if it warrants a purchase because story-wise it's pretty much a side story with no real revelations, contrary to the game's subtitle.

Honestly at this point I'm only really interested in Desmond's story and how crazy the ending was to Brotherhood, do they go into more of that with Revelations or do you think I'll be ok just picking up 3 and skipping this or is the Desmond stuff just some crazy shit that needs to be seen? That's really the only thing making me want to check out the game.
#50 Posted by punkxblaze (2968 posts) -

I'm trying to figure out of OP was written in the style of a Haiku.

Did not like three games

Ezio journey is dumb

Please for bring connor

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