Your favorite Assassin?

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#1 Edited by handlas (2749 posts) -

I've been meaning to ask this since Ryan keeps saying on the podcast that Connor is not a character people would accept for multiple games like they did with Ezio. Who do you prefer? Altair, Ezio, or Connor (or Desmond...who would say that tho)?

The reason I bring it up is because I like Connor a lot. Probably the most out of them. He's very no nonsense, and he's completely brutal when he kills doods. I love the animation of him chopping down guys 3 times with his tomahawk.

#2 Posted by FluxWaveZ (19388 posts) -

Why wouldn't you make this a poll...

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#3 Edited by handlas (2749 posts) -

Never made a poll before so I didn't know how. Feel free to make a new one if ya want.

mmm I see in the main forum part you can choose "create a poll instead" but that option was not there when I create a topic in this forum.

#4 Posted by ImmortalSaiyan (4701 posts) -

I liked Ezio in AC2. From what I played of Brotherhood I was done with the character. I don't remember much about Alteir. Conner is decent I guess. Kinda a one note character.

#5 Posted by solidwolf52 (301 posts) -

Connor just felt blank to me. He was just told what to do and he did it. Ezio was on a more personal mission that i cared more about. I mean maybe over a couple of games they could flesh him out more, but as of now I'm pretty indifferent to Connor.

#6 Posted by Morrow (1823 posts) -

Haven't played as Connor yet, but to me Altair has the most personality.

#7 Edited by handlas (2749 posts) -

@ImmortalSaiyan said:

I liked Ezio in AC2. From what I played of Brotherhood I was done with the character. I don't remember much about Alteir. Conner is decent I guess. Kinda a one note character.

I guess playing as Ezio for 3 games in a short period of time might be why I was tired of him and ready for a new character like Connor. I liked the scene with him and Paul Revere where he keeps touching him on the shoulder and Connor keeps giving him the evil eye. Good change of pace between characters.

#8 Posted by laserbolts (5365 posts) -

Altair. He seemed the most badass out of the three.

#9 Posted by pyrodactyl (2348 posts) -

If you consider homestead mission for AC3, I would say it's an Ezio/Connor tie.

#10 Posted by mercutio123 (473 posts) -

Ezio was awesome. But Connor I liked a hell of a lot more by the end of the game then I did at the beginning, when he was just irritating. However.

HAYTHAM WAS AN ABSOLUTE BADASS. I know he was a templar, but the interplay between him and Connor was the best part of the game. And he was British. That's a win for me.

#11 Posted by Vorbis (2750 posts) -

Haytham.

#12 Edited by handlas (2749 posts) -

oh no abort abort! That's too spoilery.

I thought about mentioning him but ya... the revelation about him was awesome tho. If we are talking about favorite characters... I'm not very far but one of the first guys in the game that ends up being a bad guy is awesome. I thought he looked creepy as hell as the beginning and I'm so happy he ended up not being on your side. They messed up his hair and stuff when you play as Connor to make him look even creepier (that should probably indicate who I'm talking about).

#13 Posted by Onkel_Apan (56 posts) -

is it ok to say Agent 47?

#14 Posted by AhmadMetallic (18954 posts) -

It will always be Utta-er for me

#15 Posted by FancySoapsMan (5818 posts) -

I think Connor is a great character, and it's interesting seeing feel out of place among the colonists.

Never liked Ezio, always thought he was kind of douchey.

Don't remember much about Altair.

#16 Posted by Village_Guy (2662 posts) -

Altair I guess, I haven't played 3 yet, but I never really Ezio.

#17 Posted by VikG (133 posts) -

Ezio Auditore Da Firenze has to be my favourite from the series so far, maybe it has to do with him having the most fleshed out storyline (which spans 3 games!) & the excellent Italian voice acting (which was superb imho), along with the European setting, although I did like Altair & playing a game set in the Middle East

#18 Posted by deskp (453 posts) -

I like Connor, he's fun when hes angry. Need another game with him though. just perhaps not 2...

#19 Posted by xxizzypop (578 posts) -

As much as I hate to admit it, looking back, it was definitely Ezio. I thought he was kind of douchey, and that the tone set in the ACII chronicles was just, kind of off for some reason. But now, getting back into a game in the franchise that doesn't have a kind of cheeky character, I realize how much I miss the flamboyance and bombast. Connor is functioning much in the same way Altair did, and I'm finding neither of them to be super compelling. Competent, well-utilized, but nothing special. That could hinge just as much on the supporting cast though. Connor is just surrounded by assholes and dudes that are far too serious, whereas Ezio had Da Vinci and a few others that made it seem like he have, y'know, friends, and be capable of something other than a gruff attitude and burying a blade to the hilt in his enemies.

#20 Posted by project343 (2838 posts) -

Ezio from Revelations was my favourite. There was something refreshing about not being a spry young man. The game itself sucked, but there were some narrative beats that I thought were spectacularly well executed (particularly his relationship with Sofia). While I enjoy his cocky, flamboyant AC2 self, I think the Revelations Ezio was far more refreshing.

#21 Posted by overnow (292 posts) -

I was completely fine with both Ezio (I never played Brotherhood or Revelations) and Connor, I think I would take Ezio between the two of them but not by too much. Also I really enjoyed Haytham.

#22 Posted by Revan_NL (343 posts) -

My vote goes to Ezio, even though I was done with the character after Brotherhood

#23 Posted by Loki9876 (89 posts) -

I really liked Connor at the end of the game and do the homestead missions. I liked Ezio too and I never realy got attached to altair.

#24 Posted by Lord_Xp (606 posts) -

I wish Connor would show a little bit more emotion about something. He didn't seem to get angry, sad, or happy about anything. Just kind of followed rules and that's about it.

#25 Edited by Ares42 (2796 posts) -

@Vorbis said:

Haytham.

This. If they're gonna make any AC3 spin-offs it should definitely be a Haytham prequel.

Also, I've never really agreed with the Ezio love. He just seemed too much of a nice guy to me.

#26 Posted by Silvergun (297 posts) -

Wan't Bartolomeo an Assassin? If so, Bartolomeo!

#27 Posted by thomasnash (585 posts) -

@solidwolf52 said:

Connor just felt blank to me. He was just told what to do and he did it. Ezio was on a more personal mission that i cared more about. I mean maybe over a couple of games they could flesh him out more, but as of now I'm pretty indifferent to Connor.

A lot of people have been saying this. I don't know how much of the side stuff you've played, and even then I'd say this is a pretty valid opinion, but I feel like the perception of Connor as "blank" is more the fault of the wider storytelling than anything else. Like, moment to moment it's very difficult to see how the things Connor does and is told to do fit into the whole story, and indeed how they fit in to Connors character and his goals. It felt like they were more interested in jamming in major events from the American Revolution than explaining how they related to Connor trying to save his village, or the Templars, or the precursor site, or the key that is the reason Desmond is looking at this stuff in the first place.

But I think during some of the side stuff, particularly the homestead missions, you get a much more rounded picture of his character, the line he straddles between naive and peaceful and vengeful and brutal, but also particularly his devotion to community over brotherhood, where he is a counterpoint against Achilles, whose only community was the brotherhood of assassins, the destruction of which has left him a recluse, and Haytham - the building of the homestead is a nice mirror of Haytham's building of the brotherhood of Templars in the first few sequences, but where Haytham demands that Charles Lee devote his entire self to it (achieving our goals "at the expense of all else"), where his disregard for the desires of his brethren leads to Church's betrayal, Connor builds a community by attending to the needs of those within it. You might argue that the homestead is different to the brotherhood, but I think you see this to an extent in the way liberation missions play out, compared to how they did in previous games; where rescued people would swear themselves into Ezio's service, Connor helps the people of the various districts, and in return local community leaders offer help (they generally say that if Connor needs something they'll help). I suppose this is Connors downfall to a certain extent, his willingness to help the patriots on the basis that they will help him achieve his goals, when in fact they run counter to it.

Personally, I think Connor might be supposed to represent the purest ideals of the revolution, of manifest destiny, freedom and justice, the idea that people can build something in the new world and prosper from it. While the patriots notionally stand for these, as time wears on it becomes apparent that its a facade.

OK, so I'm making it sound a lot more cohesive and coherent than it actually is, and I think a lot of people will say that they don't see it. That's probably fair; I suppose. The potential for this type of reading probably doesn't make up for the various ways in which this game fails...

#28 Posted by handlas (2749 posts) -

@Ares42 said:

@Vorbis said:

Haytham.

This. If they're gonna make any AC3 spin-offs it should definitely be a Haytham prequel.

Also, I've never really agreed with the Ezio love. He just seemed to much of a nice guy to me.

But there is a problem there. The question was who is ur favorite Assassin. Unless something happens in the story that im not aware of

#29 Posted by Jay_Ray (1127 posts) -

John Wilkes Booth's head (in a jar)

Lincoln Force GO!!!!!!!!!!!!

#30 Posted by Ares42 (2796 posts) -

@handlas: well, this is gonna be more spoilerish than I wanted to be (although I doubt anyone that reads this haven't already played the game), but a prequel of Haytham as an assassin would be completely within canon. You might've missed something if you don't realize that :P

#31 Posted by _Chad (960 posts) -

Ezio. He's also one of my favorite characters from this generation.

#32 Edited by Fredchuckdave (6141 posts) -

Option number 4, he was an Assassin at some point and therefore is one in my heart. Also Al Mualim is still a boss and Cam Clarke is a fucking awesome voice actor.

#33 Edited by cclemon36 (181 posts) -

@project343 said:

Ezio from Revelations was my favourite. There was something refreshing about not being a spry young man. The game itself sucked, but there were some narrative beats that I thought were spectacularly well executed (particularly his relationship with Sofia). While I enjoy his cocky, flamboyant AC2 self, I think the Revelations Ezio was far more refreshing.

While Ezio isn't my favourite of the Assassins, old Ezio is in my opinion the best version of that character. In addition to the points you mentioned, I liked the fact that he was digging deep into the history of the brotherhood, trying to understand where they came from (kind of going at the whole assassin thing backwards).

Altair is my favourite of the series, he was born into the brotherhood (didn't just come across a blade and start stabbing dudes), more or less understood what he was doing, and was ruthless about it.

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#34 Posted by themangalist (1747 posts) -

I really liked Altair's redemption. I still haven't played ACIII yet, but he sounds like a dude I'd really dig. I kinda dislike Ezio, and he had three entire games.

#35 Posted by InternetCrab (1504 posts) -

Ezio Auditore Da-fucking-Firenze because of his personal vendetta and fleshed-out personality, which can't compete with Altaïr or Connor.

#36 Posted by Bourbon_Warrior (4523 posts) -

I really like the origin story of Connor plus the Karate Kid inspired training was pretty great. But Ezio was pretty much Italian Batman and that always wins.

#37 Posted by metalsnakezero (2342 posts) -

Ezio will always be the best character. Still Connor is more complex since he has to deal with conflicts of what is right or wrong. He a better character to work with than Altair was at first since your with Connor from the beginning of his journey.

#38 Posted by Nightriff (5335 posts) -

Altair is still my favorite, Ezio is good but the love he gets from people (like my friends) is just ridiculous. Altair mainly because he could actually kill someone and escape where Ezio has to make it a spectacle, in other words he is a bad assassin. Haven't played 3 yet, next year is when I hope to get around to it.

#39 Posted by johncallahan (620 posts) -

Ezio. One of my favorite characters of all time.

#40 Posted by InternetCrab (1504 posts) -

@Nightriff said:

Altair is still my favorite, Ezio is good but the love he gets from people (like my friends) is just ridiculous. Altair mainly because he could actually kill someone and escape where Ezio has to make it a spectacle, in other words he is a bad assassin. Haven't played 3 yet, next year is when I hope to get around to it.

In ACII, Brotherhood and Revalations you can be sneaky if you want to.

#41 Posted by briangodsoe (484 posts) -

Ezio for Assassin as he is one charming motherfucker. Haytham for most interesting villain however. He made up for the one note nature of Charles Lee and made me just like Connor more.

#42 Edited by CooVee (146 posts) -

Ezio is the best hands down. Of course he had more development then the others but thats how it goes.

#43 Posted by shadrox2810 (3 posts) -

I would prefer Ezio from Revelations as well. I like it because its refreshing and its the only reason why i played Revelation i guess, just to see what Ezio does in the end. I have yet to get a taste on Altair but in someday, i would go back to Assassin creed 1.

I recently played AC3 and i don't really like Connor's character. Seems a little one-dimensional if you ask me. Nothing special, just following the orders of his leader. I don't know, maybe because i couldn't really connect to his character. The dude is far too serious and noble if you ask me.

#44 Posted by mordukai (7185 posts) -

@laserbolts said:

Altair. He seemed the most badass out of the three.

I would like to second that.

#45 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (1175 posts) -

Corvo

#46 Posted by ahgunsillyo (458 posts) -

I'm inclined to say Ezio. He arguably has more charisma and personality than the other two featured ancestors combined, and his actions established a significant legacy for both himself as an individual and the Assassin Brotherhood as a group and society.

However, finding out what happens next in Desmond's journey is one of the main reasons I've wanted to play the next Assassin's Creed game, so I'd say he's one of my favorite characters in the series, as well.

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#48 Posted by Ghostiet (5320 posts) -

Ezio. His journey is one of the greatest character arcs in gaming.

However, I gotta say - Connor's voice actor is totally great.

#49 Posted by NoRemnants (386 posts) -

@laserbolts: He is probably the most skilled assassin. I think Connor is the all around has the best fighting skills of the bunch. Ezio is the most interesting character IMO.

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