Everytime an AC comes out people start threads about "what do you think the next game would be set in?"
I'm waiting for the PC version, so I haven't played Revelations yet. Read this(Kotaku haters alert!), a bit spoilery, but basically it's an educated guess on the two possible settings in 3. Desmond in modern/near-future NY, or Shao Jun (from AC:Embers, the animated short) in 15th/16th century imperial China. You know what, Desmond could go eat a tick, I'm totally down for a game set in China, in the full delicious historical detailed treatment from Ubisoft Montreal. It's a game I started imagining since II and god i hope it's true.
I think what most "Western" people think of when it comes to Asia is ninjas and Japan. It's been done far too many times. I've been studying Chinese history, along with world history, since my childhood. It is really really fascinating yet all we see on mainstream media is the bullshit stereotypes of the noodle-stashes and ninja swords. There has yet been a game that does the ancient Chinese setting justice... saddest thing is the closest attempt would be Bioware's Jade Empire, which is hardly historical accurate AND full of the stereotypes.
So, your thoughts? Would you want a AC game set in China?
Assassin's Creed: Revelations
Game » consists of 16 releases. Released Nov 15, 2011
Assassin's Creed: Revelations is the fourth installment in the Assassin's Creed franchise and the final entry in Ezio Auditore's main storyline. A few levels also put players back in control of the original Assassin's Creed's Altair, and depict his rise to the Mentorship of the Crusades-era Brotherhood of Assassins.
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@Double0hFor said:
wait, isn't Revelations the last game?
It's supposedly the final Ezio chapter (Altair as well), and the series'll continue on with a new protagonist with every numbered AC game.
I don't know, I think they can still do feudal Japan with ninjas that seems interesting. I've always seen ninjas portrayed as having some sort of supernatural powers (and like you said, noodle stashes and ninja swords lol) and it'd be nice to portray them closer to a realistic sense (I hesitate to use that word even, but w/e.). But hey, China seems fun, because they have a history that many games haven't really explored, so it'd be nice to have something that people haven't done before. Also, judging from the animated short, there's the possibility that the new protagonist might be a female assassin. I'm down for that too.
The game HEAVILY implies NYC for AC3,
I'd honestly prefer they stay away from Asia and focus more on the under-represented periods they've been sticking with so far. I wish I could come up with an idea for a location, but nothing comes to mind... although if you asked me before Assassin's Creed 2 came out, I would never have come up with renaissance Italy, either. I did like that rumor that it was going to be revolutionary France...
Eastern United States (New York, Boston and Philiadelphia) circa 1870-1880 with weapons designed by Nikola Tesla. There should never be an all-Desmond AC. The historical settings are one of the defining characteristics of the series.
@Emperor_Norton said:
Eastern United States (New York, Boston and Philiadelphia) circa 1870-1880 with weapons designed by Nikola Tesla. There should never be an all-Desmond AC. The historical settings are one of the defining characteristics of the series.
Couldn't agree more, I will quit the series and not feel at all upset as soon as they stop the historical settings. Come to think of it, I really don't care about any of the Desmond story beats at all.
The ending of the DaVinci Disappearance DLC for AC:B telegraphed pretty clearly that they're headed to upstate NYC, and the ending of Revelations did a little to explain why.
That's exactly why I typed up this post. Imperial China IS under-represented, as I said, the closest thing is Jade Empire. And it's full of stereotypical bullshit. If there's one game studio that could do historical settings right, it'd be Ubisoft Montreal.I'd honestly prefer they stay away from Asia and focus more on the under-represented periods they've been sticking with so far. I wish I could come up with an idea for a location, but nothing comes to mind... although if you asked me before Assassin's Creed 2 came out, I would never have come up with renaissance Italy, either. I did like that rumor that it was going to be revolutionary France...
@themangalist said:
@TooWalrus said:That's exactly why I typed up this post. Imperial China IS under-represented, as I said, the closest thing is Jade Empire. And it's full of stereotypical bullshit. If there's one game studio that could do historical settings right, it'd be Ubisoft Montreal.I'd honestly prefer they stay away from Asia and focus more on the under-represented periods they've been sticking with so far. I wish I could come up with an idea for a location, but nothing comes to mind... although if you asked me before Assassin's Creed 2 came out, I would never have come up with renaissance Italy, either. I did like that rumor that it was going to be revolutionary France...
I guess I don't have much knowledge about Chinese history- I mean, what's going to set it apart from stuff like Dynasty Warriors?
EDIT: I totally spelled Chinese wrong.
... sigh. Yip, Ubisoft Montreal please come save the day.@themangalist said:
@TooWalrus said:That's exactly why I typed up this post. Imperial China IS under-represented, as I said, the closest thing is Jade Empire. And it's full of stereotypical bullshit. If there's one game studio that could do historical settings right, it'd be Ubisoft Montreal.I'd honestly prefer they stay away from Asia and focus more on the under-represented periods they've been sticking with so far. I wish I could come up with an idea for a location, but nothing comes to mind... although if you asked me before Assassin's Creed 2 came out, I would never have come up with renaissance Italy, either. I did like that rumor that it was going to be revolutionary France...
I guess I don't have much knowledge about Chinese history- I mean, what's going to set it apart from stuff like Dynasty Warriors?
EDIT: I totally spelled Chinese wrong.
@themangalist: Well excuse me princess, but the American public school system (or the New Zealand schools, for that matter) didn't exactly go over each Chinese dynasty in detail, I'd have to research that shit on my own and guess what- I just don't find it that interesting. You really shouldn't be surprised at people's ignorance of obscure, irrelevant history.
@Emperor_Norton said:
Eastern United States (New York, Boston and Philiadelphia) circa 1870-1880 with weapons designed by Nikola Tesla. There should never be an all-Desmond AC. The historical settings are one of the defining characteristics of the series.
It'd be kind of difficult to constantly have him plug into an animus to retrieve the past, never BEING the character, wouldn't it? It seems like we'd constantly go round and round, with no conclusion, if we live through his ancestors.
I'm also uncertain of Desmond's current time having any parallel to what we know as modern day. Has there been anything definitively shown of it? We just get glimpses.
@TooWalrus: Despite being someone who has lived in China for pretty much his whole life, I couldn't agree with you more.
Chinese history is dull and unimportant, mostly due to Chinese emperors shutting the entire nation off from the rest of the world. China wasn't relevant until the early 1940s when the Chinese Communist Party and Guomindang (the Nationalists) began to fight each other, and again that was only due to broader Cold War implications.
@Waffles13 said:
The game HEAVILY implies NYC for AC3,what with extensive recollections of Desmond's time in NYC prior to his abduction, as well as the fact that while Zeus is showing the world map and talking about their Grand Temple it zooms in on the eastern seaboard.
So can we expect jumping off synchronization points into giant garbage dumps?
I realise that Ubisoft will continue to milk this franchise for as long as they possibly can, but after the ending of Revelations... how can they go anywhere but modern day with Desmond as the main character?
Ubi sent a survey around. Asked about these possibilities.
- The violent conflicts of the Imperial Dynasties in Medieval China
- The advent of the mighty British Empire during Victorian England
- The culmination of the Pharaoh Reign in Ancient Egypt
- The invasion of the Americas by the Spanish Conquistadors
- The confrontation between British colonists and native Americans during The American Revolution
- The overthrow of the Tsar Empire by the Communists during the Russian Revolution
- The Warlord Battles in Feudal Japan
- The rise of Cesar's Empire in Ancient Rome
Should I start playing Assassins Creed one before I move to Revelations, I already own AC2, and I want to play in order, is it worth hunting down a copy of the first AC, or just a waist of time?
@Barrock said:
Ubi sent a survey around. Asked about these possibilities.
- The violent conflicts of the Imperial Dynasties in Medieval China
- The advent of the mighty British Empire during Victorian England
- The culmination of the Pharaoh Reign in Ancient Egypt
- The invasion of the Americas by the Spanish Conquistadors
- The confrontation between British colonists and native Americans during The American Revolution
- The overthrow of the Tsar Empire by the Communists during the Russian Revolution
I haven't gotten to playing Revelations yet. But all of these seme awesome. If the put AC ever into the USA post civil war they fucked up. I am coming to AC for the unusual locations with rich history. They should call it "Revolutions", make two playable characters set into the French and the communist revolution.
@CaptMagic123: I think it is worth playing. Critical path it though. The side stuff is boring. If you got a PS3, the Revelations disc comes with a copy of AC1.
guys....the fucking solar flare is about to kill everyone. It's about time Desmond found that central vault and saved the second civilization. No doubt the ones who came before will have their own agenda and screw over Desmond in some way, but who isn't interested in finding what the hell is in that vault?
I loved ACR more than I perhaps should have, but it's about time AC3 came out and had Desmond as a playable character. Give me a million other spinoffs with the Chinese assassin order, the Norodnaya Volya, the turkish assassins, Qulan Gal in Mongolia, Darius in Persia, Amunet in Egypt, IItani in Babylon or Leonius in ancient Rome and I'll play them but really now...
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