The Next Assassin’s Creed Won’t Star Connor

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#101 Edited by crusader8463 (14429 posts) -

Good. I disliked Conner and the time period. Glad they are leaving it in the dust. Though after this game I think I'm kind of done with the series for a bit. Or at least until the next one goes on a super sale.

#102 Posted by Deusoma (3032 posts) -
@sephirm87 said:

Hear me out. You start the new game as Desmond (very, very briefly) , with the early twist being that you are someone in the Animus reliving Desmond's experiences as an assassin. You then do all sorts of neat future assassin stuff.

That's what I've been saying the series should do since AC2, but nobody listens. :-(
#103 Posted by Efesell (689 posts) -
#104 Edited by GaspoweR (3489 posts) -

@WeaponBoy said:

Connor was just...boring. He just lacked that certain charm that made you like him despite how much of a douche he could be. Connor was just kind of a douche in general.

Fair warning, I'm going to make a comparison that some people might be grumpy about and I'm honestly not trying to start a flame war, this is just my opinion.

I liken Connor vs. Ezio to DmC's Dante vs. DMC3/4's Dante. They're both idiotic power fantasies, but I just found new Dante to be kind of insufferably cocky rather than entertainingly cocky. Kind of like Nero was in DMC4, but Nero's melodrama was balanced out by Dante being around to act as a foil.

Well, you could also liken Nero to the current Dante with the whole teenage angst angle. Like playing as Nero though in terms of combat but didn't like him as a character. I liked his dad better (even though it's only alluded to and I'm not sure if it has been confirmed).

#105 Posted by Kazona (3096 posts) -

So who the hell are they going to put in the animus?

#106 Posted by Clonedzero (4196 posts) -

i dont think Connor was a bad character, he was just a meh character. his best character moments were in those stupid homestead side missions.

i think feudal japan would be perfect for th e next one though. (except the protagonist assassin ISNT a ninja WHAT A TWIST).

though i dont think i'll be playing anymore assassins creed games unless they finally stop using that blinding white loading/transition screen that pops up every 2 seconds. its so distracting and annoying, especially once you're aware of it. (sorry if i ruined AC games for you now) but its a REALLY bad design choice i hate it.

#107 Posted by jerseyscum (925 posts) -

No Japan. That would be silly and boring.

Victorian-Era London or the 1917 Russian revolution would be an AMAZING setting for an Assassin's Creed game.

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#108 Posted by ObsideonDarman (670 posts) -

Praise the lord. No more Mr. Boring Slab

#109 Posted by Hailinel (25205 posts) -

@jerseyscum said:

No Japan. That would be silly and boring.

How so?

#110 Posted by jerseyscum (925 posts) -

Connor wasn't THAT bad, he was just outshined by Haytham and Ezio.

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#111 Posted by Video_Game_King (36272 posts) -

@Hailinel said:

@jerseyscum said:

No Japan. That would be silly and boring.

How so?

Last time somebody tried to mix Japan and assassins, it didn't work out so well.

#112 Posted by OfficeGamer (1086 posts) -

@Ett said:

Assassins Creed 1666.

Diablo 4?

#113 Posted by jerseyscum (925 posts) -

@Video_Game_King said:

@Hailinel said:

@jerseyscum said:

No Japan. That would be silly and boring.

How so?

Last time somebody tried to mix Japan and assassins, it didn't work out so well.

Ouch!

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#114 Posted by Hailinel (25205 posts) -

@jerseyscum said:

@Video_Game_King said:

@Hailinel said:

@jerseyscum said:

No Japan. That would be silly and boring.

How so?

Last time somebody tried to mix Japan and assassins, it didn't work out so well.

Ouch!

Non sequiturs don't answer the question.

#115 Edited by CornBREDX (5997 posts) -

Ya, my problems with the game weren't with Connor but I can't say he'll be missed either. 
Weird choice, though. To do that instead of, you know, write him better.

#116 Posted by DevourerOfTime (459 posts) -

@chilipeppersman: I agree with you. It is very much like Call of Duty. Every game doesn't evolve the formula and doesn't give you a good reason to come back to it once you have experienced it once already.

But you haven't experienced it. You played the first game, which is significantly worse than the follow ups. Assassins Creed 2 was a gigantic leap forward from the first game in almost every single way, while its sequels have been just Assassins Creed 2, but with a new coat of paint.

Look, I hate what the series has become and its dead to me as it stands, but that doesn't stop me from recommending someone play (and only) Assassins Creed 2. I don't get the reasoning of writing off an entire series when you haven't even tried one of the games in it that was actually praised.

In my eyes, it's kind of like writing off the entire Call of Duty franchise, even though Modern Warfare is considered an outstanding title of this generation, because you didn't like a PS1 Medal of Honour game.

If the Assassins Creed games just aren't your thing, then fine. Not saying everyone has to play them or will enjoy them. But don't write off the games in the past by how the series is treated in the present.

#117 Posted by vinsanity09 (212 posts) -

Played the first, loved it (Altair is still my favorite assassin), played ACII and Brotherhood, liked them too. But I just couldn't play more then 4-5 hours of Revelations (tired of Ezio). I want to complete ACIII but I just don't have fun playing it, it feels like a chore.

#118 Edited by Charlee_CoCo (116 posts) -
@Hailinel said:

@jerseyscum said:

No Japan. That would be silly and boring.

How so?

It has more to do with the fact that we've had tons of ninja games already. Granted none of them have the budget or scale of a Assassins Creed game, plus it's always more interesting to see the assassin/ninja characters in areas or a visual styles that they're not traditionally depicted in. 
 
If the AC series was going to go Asian, 16th century China would be a better setting than Japan, not to mention the CG film AC: Embers introduces a character (Shao Jun) that is also referenced in AC3 who's background and native land (China) would make for something better, different, and more interesting than a Japanese based AC game. 
 
http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/Shao_Jun  
 
There's also this really beautiful fan art that gives an idea of what a China based AC could be like  
 
         
 http://chaoyuanxu.deviantart.com/gallery/    
#119 Posted by kgb0515 (405 posts) -

Move things forward to Cold War Germany after the wall went up. I Don't think it would happen since Ubi seems to like their history pre-eighteenth century, but one can hope.

#120 Edited by AV_Gamer (655 posts) -

Overall, I enjoyed AC3 enough to finish it, but the main character wasn't interesting at all, especially after you've gotten use to playing as the cool Templar guy at the beginning. Most people agree, he should have been the main character. And the way they wrapped up Desmond's story was also very disappointing. They need to comeback strong with this next AC or the series may die.

Sadly, we do live in a "What have you done for me lately?" society.

#121 Posted by BABS (75 posts) -

While Connor was no Ezio, I still liked him. Even so, I'm not sure where they could have taken his story if they were to make a sequel to AC3.

Just please, no Japan. It's so overdone. There are so many other possible avenues to take the franchise. I really hope they get creative.

@jerseyscum said:

No Japan. That would be silly and boring.

Victorian-Era London or the 1917 Russian revolution would be an AMAZING setting for an Assassin's Creed game.

This.

I also think the French Revolution would have been more interesting than the American Revolution, but as the French say, c'est la vie.

#122 Posted by Hunter5024 (5963 posts) -

They announced there would be a new protagonist and setting in an earnings call? Is there at least a quote or something?

#123 Posted by Levio (1786 posts) -

Assassin's Creed set in the first Moon city please.

#124 Posted by evanbower (1216 posts) -
@DevourerOfTime

@chilipeppersman: Good to hear you played the worst in the series and completely gave up on it.

But can anyone give me a reason to care about this franchise anymore? Anyone? Please?

Uhhhhh.... Wrist blades? I don't know, after three I think I'm done.
#125 Posted by Encephalon (1334 posts) -

@Hailinel said:

@jerseyscum said:

No Japan. That would be silly and boring.

How so?

Given Ubisoft's stated ambition of visiting time periods unexplored by video games, a game set in, say, Feudal Japan doesn't really fit that bill. That's not to say that there are actually feudal Japan-set games clogging up the shelves, but rather that the fetishization of that element of Japanese history is so ubiquitous in gaming culture that it comes to the same thing.

#126 Edited by Blu3V3nom07 (3780 posts) -

Alright, no I don't want a Japanese Assassin's Creed. It just reminds me of the GTA IV rumors, back then. Nah. Egypt, might be alright though, Russia.

#127 Posted by XChairmanDrekX (310 posts) -

Damn, Ubisoft, give it a rest for a bit will ya? AC really needs to stay of the market for a while and well, maybe not return with something as drastic as a reboot but it desperately needs to be way different. The series just needs to reinvent itself because as it is it's too damn stale.

#128 Posted by LotusPrince (20 posts) -

Civil War Assassin's Creed game. Basically Django Unchained, but with like stealth and shit. And just for fun, you play as a woman, bam. GAME OF THE FUCKING YEAR!

#129 Posted by sprode (112 posts) -

Connor looked boring, but he isn't the main problem with this series. Maybe it's time to stop calling it "Assassin's" Creed.

#130 Edited by Dan_CiTi (3512 posts) -

@Encephalon said:

@Hailinel said:

@jerseyscum said:

No Japan. That would be silly and boring.

How so?

Given Ubisoft's stated ambition of visiting time periods unexplored by video games, a game set in, say, Feudal Japan doesn't really fit that bill. That's not to say that there are actually feudal Japan-set games clogging up the shelves, but rather that the fetishization of that element of Japanese history is so ubiquitous in gaming culture that it comes to the same thing.

Nah, Feudal Japan wouldn't work as well as the Bakumatsu. Whether it is the actual feudal setting, or a 1800s one, or something mythical like Okami, a Japan-centric Assassin's Creed game is something people have wanted since AC1. Not saying it is the only good setting, but one of them could be great, as could a laundry list of many others.

Anyway, though I really liked AC3 and Connor in general, it makes perfect sense why he won't be the main character in the next one, since it will probably be set in the French Revolution, seeing as how the next "thing" in history that would be big enough for an AC game in the USA is the Civil War, that would be a pretty long time for ol' Rathtahthreh:ton.

@sprode said:

Connor looked boring, but he isn't the main problem with this series. Maybe it's time to stop calling it "Assassin's" Creed.

Yeah, time to call it Hitman's List of Unbreakable Rules.

#131 Posted by Roger778 (960 posts) -

Okay, I'm a hardcore fan of the Assassins Creed series, and I was really disappointed in how AC3 ended. That said, it sounds like Ubi Soft is moving on from both Desmond and Conner, and I have to say I'm very happy about that. We're finally getting a new character and possibly a new setting that hasn't been explored in video games yet. I'm looking forward to learning more about this game, so we can see how it turns out.

One thing, though. I would really appreciate it if Ubi Soft would take it's time on the game, and not release it until next year. It would feel too rushed if it comes out this year, since they just announced it.

#132 Posted by Hailinel (25205 posts) -

@LotusPrince said:

Civil War Assassin's Creed game. Basically Django Unchained, but with like stealth and shit. And just for fun, you play as a woman, bam. GAME OF THE FUCKING YEAR!

Southern Belle assassin = Yes

#133 Posted by TekZero (2691 posts) -

I still think that a French Revolution Assassin's Creed would be amazing.

#134 Posted by jerseyscum (925 posts) -

To be fair to Ubisoft.....Ezio is possibly my favorite character in gaming this entire generation. I'm naturally going to be biased against a new protagonist.

One more thing: SET THE GAME IN ONE GODDAMN CITY. THIS IS WHAT MADE BROTHERHOOD SO GREAT.

The Frontier nonsense in AC3 killed the pacing and flow of that game stone dead. Simplify (or eliminate) the economy, focus on actually intresting side quests (Tombs, Da Vinci Machines, Subject 16 puzzles, Naval combat) and you can do no wrong.

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#135 Posted by jerseyscum (925 posts) -

Or.....we turn the dial on the Animus all the way back.

Back to the First Civ.

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#136 Posted by Nikz (28 posts) -

Sadly I'm one of the (seemingly few) people that LOVED AC3 and Ratohnhaké:ton as a character. I loved the wilderness and climbing in 1700's Boston. I loved hunting animals and climbing trees and cliff sides. Spent hours exploring the wilds and wanted more.

I would love to see more of this setting, its unique and interesting. Japan or China would be really boring. Maybe take it to Central/South America? Aztecs or Inca. BEFORE any Europeans came.

#137 Posted by Blu3V3nom07 (3780 posts) -

@Nikz said:

Sadly I'm one of the (seemingly few) people that LOVED AC3 and Ratohnhaké:ton as a character. I loved the wilderness and climbing in 1700's Boston. I loved hunting animals and climbing trees and cliff sides. Spent hours exploring the wilds and wanted more.

I would love to see more of this setting, its unique and interesting. Japan or China would be really boring. Maybe take it to Central/South America? Aztecs or Inca. BEFORE any Europeans came.

I loved the wilderness in 3! I don't know what wilderness they could put for Brazil, but I'd sure love it!

#138 Posted by CaptRocketblaze (175 posts) -

Playing AC3 now, not loving it, barely liking it. Shaking the dice & rolling again may be a good thing.

#139 Posted by MikkaQ (10344 posts) -

Fuck that shit. I was mislead by Ubisoft into thinking the plot would be resolved in 3, what with the 2012 shit they had been hyping for so long.

Well guess what? It's 20 fucking 13 and I don't give a shit about Assassin's Creed anymore. You had your chance to end it, now we're physically past the time point where your story is even relevant. The world ended, Desmond failed. So what the 4th game is going to take place over a year in the past by the time in comes out?

#140 Posted by m3ds334 (43 posts) -

After 5 games in 5 years, I think that's enough. I took a year off from the franchise with Revelations to come back with III and realized I just couldn't do it anymore. Looking forward to the next big Ubisotft franchise (Watchdogs?)

#141 Posted by needforswede (492 posts) -

The first AC showed so much promise but made me want to punch the shit out of my TV, for some reason I found it frustrating...not the difficulty, but the pacing.

But I'm tired of hearing people bitching about Ubisoft..."milking the franchise dry," etc...from morons who just seem to copy/paste arguments they read somewhere else. The series got exponentially better, anyone who just likes the first one is...just wrong.

And while ACIII was a little disappointing, it's hard not to admire the direction they took, and the story-telling was and has always been top-notch as far as games go, probably among the best storylines of any game, while I'm the kind of person who doesn't give a damn about whatever goes on in a game as long as it's fun to play.

I forgot my point...oh yeah...I agree with Patrick, I really liked Connor as a character, he wasn't one of the drawbacks in the game. As badass as Ezio is, it was time to move on from him, and I liked starting out as a stubborn kid who came from nothing, had all odds against him, etc. It was a refreshing change of pace after playing as Ezio, basically the Bruce Wayne of the Renaissance, for three games straight (although three amazing games).

But to hell with the first game, ACIII was certainly disappointing but definitely not a bad game and still light years beyond AC 1.

#142 Posted by Seroth (726 posts) -

Haytham game, plz.

#143 Posted by Aterons (197 posts) -

Another one hops on the COD cho cho train.

#144 Posted by pplus0440 (260 posts) -

French Revolution!!! PLEASE!

#145 Posted by JZ (2125 posts) -

Wow a lot of people are butthurt in here. You guys do know this will be the 2nd in the ac3 series so it's going to be the best. Just like all the other second games.

#146 Posted by Draugen (696 posts) -

@fox01313 said:

I'd much rather them do another assassin creed game with the female assassin from the vita game.

Word. Didn't play the game, but she seemed a really intersting character. And she had the best name. :)

#147 Posted by eternitymemory (153 posts) -

Probably for the best they just move away from the Desmond line of things. I mean, I actually like Connor, but having Desmond be revived in some way - even if it's a fake revival or whatever - to play as Connor again would have turned me pretty cold on this franchise at last.

@needforswede said:

And while ACIII was a little disappointing, it's hard not to admire the direction they took, and the story-telling was and has always been top-notch as far as games go, probably among the best storylines of any game, while I'm the kind of person who doesn't give a damn about whatever goes on in a game as long as it's fun to play.

I forgot my point...oh yeah...I agree with Patrick, I really liked Connor as a character, he wasn't one of the drawbacks in the game. As badass as Ezio is, it was time to move on from him, and I liked starting out as a stubborn kid who came from nothing, had all odds against him, etc. It was a refreshing change of pace after playing as Ezio, basically the Bruce Wayne of the Renaissance, for three games straight (although three amazing games).

Agreed for the most part, man. Connor's probably the one I sympathized with the most out of the three main assassins. And I think Haytham was just a run-of-the-mill snarky English character so I wasn't all that impressed with him.

I will say, however, that the Desmond story was a rushed, hot mess. That had a great thing going on in the first couple of games with just a bunch of general historical conspiracy theories and Templar v. Assassin stuff which panned out to diddly squat and the First Civilization nonsense. Last game definitely ended with on a low note for me.

I would love to see more of this setting, its unique and interesting. Japan or China would be really boring. Maybe take it to Central/South America? Aztecs or Inca. BEFORE any Europeans came.

Yes, please! I wouldn't mind China or Japan, though. I'd be more bored w/ a Victorian England setting tbh.

Ooooooor they could bring an Aveline game to the main consoles? Pretty please? No? If not her specifically then at least another female main character? I'd settle for that.

#148 Posted by Blu3V3nom07 (3780 posts) -

I've had dreams about ACIII, running through trees, throwing tomahawk at a bear, and stabbing a redcoat and pushing him off a stupidly high building. ~ This is all whatever, whatever I think. But, I just don't think there's too many other games where one would rather, "live," in. GTA, COD, RE, all no. Maybe Red Dead. Anyway, I'm still awfully excited for, "Black Flags." I saw that Reddit earlier, and it was pretty amazing.

#149 Posted by theanticitizen (274 posts) -

I want to be an assassin in feudal Japan

#150 Posted by Dizzyhippos (1569 posts) -

This game is both feet into "they cant just do another one of those" status, right next to zelda

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