Bastion Problem (updated, solved)

Posted by ahoodedfigure (4240 posts) -

I figured my embarrassment at not knowing about all the features here on Bastion helped shame me into downloading the game and trying it out. It's fairly easy to understand, but the text doesn't seem to be helping me in this regard. Not sure what happened, wonder if anyone out there had a similar problem and knows how to fix it. Namely:

I added the WTF, but all the text in the game that isn't subtitles has filler text (Latin) and variable names (like LoadHint_Roll above) rather than the text itself. I wonder if this has something to do with localization, but I have no idea. The only real problem when actually playing is that the instructions are all crazy wrong. Another example:

Any help would be appreciated, including pointing me to a relevant post or FAQ or something. Thanks!

Postscript:

Thanks to Wordfalling for the solution! Thanks to most of the rest for your comments :)

#1 Posted by ahoodedfigure (4240 posts) -

I figured my embarrassment at not knowing about all the features here on Bastion helped shame me into downloading the game and trying it out. It's fairly easy to understand, but the text doesn't seem to be helping me in this regard. Not sure what happened, wonder if anyone out there had a similar problem and knows how to fix it. Namely:

I added the WTF, but all the text in the game that isn't subtitles has filler text (Latin) and variable names (like LoadHint_Roll above) rather than the text itself. I wonder if this has something to do with localization, but I have no idea. The only real problem when actually playing is that the instructions are all crazy wrong. Another example:

Any help would be appreciated, including pointing me to a relevant post or FAQ or something. Thanks!

Postscript:

Thanks to Wordfalling for the solution! Thanks to most of the rest for your comments :)

#2 Posted by TwoLines (2799 posts) -

Wow, lorem ipsum! That's cool. If I were you, I'd leave it be. My Alpha Protocol has ([Death_Gunshot]) subtitle everytime I die.

#3 Posted by ahoodedfigure (4240 posts) -

@TwoLines: *laughs* Yeah, good point. This does make it a bit more individualized :)

#4 Posted by Sweep (8844 posts) -

That's pretty mental. Are you trying to play it in English?

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#6 Posted by ahoodedfigure (4240 posts) -

@Sweep: If there's a way to change the language I'm not sure. I'll dig around in the settings a bit to see if I missed something.

@GenocidalKitten: Hehe. It's funny how Latin's always associated with that sort of thing.

I'll report back if I find anything. Otherwise the responses are appreciated even if no one knows what the hell is going on :)

#7 Posted by Flaime (527 posts) -

@ahoodedfigure said:

...Bastion helped shame me into downloading the game and trying it out.

If by downloading you mean pirated it, that might be why.

#8 Edited by ahoodedfigure (4240 posts) -

@Flaime: Is your name what you do? I downloaded it legally, via Humble Bundle V.

#9 Edited by wordfalling (193 posts) -
#10 Posted by ahoodedfigure (4240 posts) -

@wordfalling: Brilliant! Thank you very much :) This may be it. Will test it right now.

#11 Posted by AndrewB (7577 posts) -

Wow, Bastion has Lorem Ipsum placeholder text?

#12 Posted by ahoodedfigure (4240 posts) -

@wordfalling: That did it! Thank you :)

#13 Posted by wordfalling (193 posts) -

@ahoodedfigure: Glad to help!

#14 Posted by ahoodedfigure (4240 posts) -

@AndrewB: Oh, and I wanted to thank you for naming that pseudo-latin that I've seen elsewhere. I was never sure what to call it so I didn't know how to look up the practice. According to wiki it's something people have been doing since the sixties as placeholder text, apparently.

#15 Posted by FirePrince (1763 posts) -

@AndrewB said:

Wow, Bastion has Lorem Ipsum placeholder text?

Everything has Lorem Ipsum placeholder text.

#16 Posted by AndrewB (7577 posts) -

@ahoodedfigure: Yup. I only really knew it from website design mockup placeholder text. I figured Bastion would be spitting out more angry debug error codes rather than Lorem Ipsum.

#17 Posted by Mento (2507 posts) -

I've seen the lorem ipsum thing show up on Bastion before, but in my case it was just a one-off issue that fixed itself upon restarting. There's a certain tolerable limit of "*shrug*, indie games" with bugs like this, but I guess if it had persisted it might've been a bother.

But hey you fixed it, so... pointless comment?

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#18 Posted by ahoodedfigure (4240 posts) -

@Mento: No comment is pointless as long as it isn't strangely mean or blank. I don't think I'm so post-modern as to start nod knowingly at blank comments. At least not yet.

It was persistent, even when I re-installed the thing. But the change in command line thing was an instant fix. I know it's par for the course sometimes, with big and small releases, I just felt it would have helped to know what some of the text was saying so I thought I'd stamp that bug as quick as possible.

#19 Posted by fisk0 (4031 posts) -

@FirePrince said:

@AndrewB said:

Wow, Bastion has Lorem Ipsum placeholder text?

Everything has Lorem Ipsum placeholder text.

I've seen it actually printed on a game box once, PC BEST BUY's Scandinavian budget release of No Respect, they had the flags for descriptions in Danish, Swedish, Finnish and Norwegian, but everything but the Finnish part was Lorem Ipsum placeholder text. Not sure if the Finnish thing was comprehensible to a Finn, but at least it looked like proper Finnish. I really regret not buying it (was kinda expensive for a 13 year old pre-owned budget release at around $10), the next time I went to that store the copy was gone.

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#20 Posted by ahoodedfigure (4240 posts) -

@fisk0: That reminds me! I'm not sure where I saw it, but there was a license agreement translation I saw once that had the frustrated translator complaining about the vagueness of certain terms. They wrote asking for feedback, and the person just printed it as if THAT were the translation!!

Lots of little gems in the world if you look around :)

#21 Edited by Fattony12000 (7292 posts) -

It's lorem ipsum, not proper Latin.

And I love it.

How could anyone who's used a computer in the past 20 or so years not know what that is?

Here's lorem ipsum for the kids! http://slipsum.com/

I also just edited the bit where I said 'past 15 years' because I forgot that we are, in actual fact, living in 2012.

God, Breaking Bad is good.

Oh shit, ice cold.

#22 Edited by ahoodedfigure (4240 posts) -

@Fattony12000: I guess that third line was you trying to provoke a response. Well, here it is.

#23 Posted by ahoodedfigure (4240 posts) -

@Fattony12000: If I misjudged your tone, I apologize.

#24 Posted by Fattony12000 (7292 posts) -

@ahoodedfigure said:

@Fattony12000: If I misjudged your tone, I apologize.

Pardon!? You do yourself a disservice my good man, and insult both our good names by suggesting such a thing were necessary. You have nothing to apologise for.

I'm sorry that my words looked shitty, they were somewhat shitty, but I did not mean them to be so shitty. Sorry.

Peace.

#25 Posted by fisk0 (4031 posts) -

@ahoodedfigure said:

@fisk0: That reminds me! I'm not sure where I saw it, but there was a license agreement translation I saw once that had the frustrated translator complaining about the vagueness of certain terms. They wrote asking for feedback, and the person just printed it as if THAT were the translation!!

Lots of little gems in the world if you look around :)

A bit late, but I managed to track down one of the Lorem Ipsum copies of No Respect again, this time I bought it (despite already owning a copy of it).

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#26 Posted by ahoodedfigure (4240 posts) -

@fisk0: Ah, it was manufactured in Denmark. Seems like it hopped over whoever was in charge of translation :) I wonder if they were thinking at the time "wow, that was easy!" Great find, thanks :)

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