Mark Hamill Probably Won't Be In Batman: Arkham Asylum 3

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Posted by BradNicholson (812 posts) -

    Maurice LeMarche and Stana Katic have reportedly confirmed their involvement with Arkham Asylum 2 as Mr. Freeze and Talia al Ghul respectively.
Like Sledgehammer Games' first Call of Duty "action-adventure," not much has been said about Batman: Arkham Asylum 2--at least, beyond the post-Spike Video Game Awards debut rumor-mongering and the confirmation of a few characters thanks to voice actor slips (see right). But Mark Hamill, the actor who most famously played Luke Skywalker in Star Wars and provided the voice for The Joker in the original Arkham Asylum and its sequel, had something very interesting to say recently about his future with the series: namely, he doesn't have one. 

Speaking with IGN at the Cannes Film festival, Hamill said, "This will be my last, there's no question about that. But it's the last hurrah." 

Those were Hammil's final words on the subject of the new game broached at the festival. Beforehand he mentioned that he wanted to leave Batman on a "high note," but was convinced to do Arkham Asylum due to Kevin Conroy and Paul Dini's involvement. 

As you might agree, that was a good choice. Still--again, before he mentioned that this Joker appearance would be his "last hurrah"--Hammil confided to IGN that the impact of the first game, which made boatloads of money, made him feel the same doubtful way about returning again as The Joker's pipes. According to Hamill, Rocksteady was able to "reassure" the voice actor by telling him the plan for the sequel, which I know woefully, gut-wrenchingly little about. 

It's easy to jump off the speculation cliff as to why Hamill believes Batman: Arkham Asylum 2 will be his last. Is it as simple as The Joker biting the big one in the sequel? Or is it just because the man plans to leave on a high note? My guess is the latter, by the way. What's yours?   

#1 Posted by BradNicholson (812 posts) -

    Maurice LeMarche and Stana Katic have reportedly confirmed their involvement with Arkham Asylum 2 as Mr. Freeze and Talia al Ghul respectively.
Like Sledgehammer Games' first Call of Duty "action-adventure," not much has been said about Batman: Arkham Asylum 2--at least, beyond the post-Spike Video Game Awards debut rumor-mongering and the confirmation of a few characters thanks to voice actor slips (see right). But Mark Hamill, the actor who most famously played Luke Skywalker in Star Wars and provided the voice for The Joker in the original Arkham Asylum and its sequel, had something very interesting to say recently about his future with the series: namely, he doesn't have one. 

Speaking with IGN at the Cannes Film festival, Hamill said, "This will be my last, there's no question about that. But it's the last hurrah." 

Those were Hammil's final words on the subject of the new game broached at the festival. Beforehand he mentioned that he wanted to leave Batman on a "high note," but was convinced to do Arkham Asylum due to Kevin Conroy and Paul Dini's involvement. 

As you might agree, that was a good choice. Still--again, before he mentioned that this Joker appearance would be his "last hurrah"--Hammil confided to IGN that the impact of the first game, which made boatloads of money, made him feel the same doubtful way about returning again as The Joker's pipes. According to Hamill, Rocksteady was able to "reassure" the voice actor by telling him the plan for the sequel, which I know woefully, gut-wrenchingly little about. 

It's easy to jump off the speculation cliff as to why Hamill believes Batman: Arkham Asylum 2 will be his last. Is it as simple as The Joker biting the big one in the sequel? Or is it just because the man plans to leave on a high note? My guess is the latter, by the way. What's yours?   

#2 Edited by Swaboo (451 posts) -

Hamill is the best Joker voice evah.

#3 Posted by ScubaStoobie (133 posts) -

He said the same thing about the first Arkham Asylum 

#4 Posted by ZeForgotten (10397 posts) -

Not "probably" won't. 
He just downright won't

#5 Posted by MrKadaver (140 posts) -

Didn't Hamill say that about the first Arkham Asylum?

#6 Posted by wrecks (2318 posts) -

I take that to mean Joker gets aced in the the sequel.

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#7 Posted by WinterSnowblind (7617 posts) -
@ScubaStoobie said:
" He said the same thing about the first Arkham Asylum  "
Indeed.  I'm guessing he did this one because they moved onto producing it so quickly.
I'd hope that if we do see an Arkham Asylum 3, it won't be about the Joker anyway.  I still say this one should have focused on an enitrely new main villian.
#8 Edited by Bobdaman18 (700 posts) -

you're not the real brad 
 
but ur still cool
#9 Posted by TheHT (11794 posts) -

Well if that's the case then the Joker can't be in AA3. Simple as that.

#10 Posted by Yummylee (22568 posts) -
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#11 Posted by WilliamHenry (1219 posts) -
@wrecks said:
" I take that to mean Joker gets aced in the the sequel. "
Doubtful. The Joker will probably just be locked up and won't be seen in any other sequels.
#12 Posted by ScubaStoobie (133 posts) -
@WinterSnowblind: Yeah I'm a bit disappointed that they chose to make the Joker the main villain again. Not really surprised though, he really is a crowd pleaser.
#13 Posted by Jazz (2322 posts) -
@wrecks said:
" I take that to mean Joker gets aced in the the sequel. "
Thats what they thought at CVG. 
 Does anybody really think DC would allow them to do that?  
They're more likely to kill Bruce Wayne...I mean ACTUALLY kill him, not Omega beam him.
#14 Edited by Bionicicide (1213 posts) -

Would be a crying shame if the Joker was in AA3 without Hamill's quintessential voice. Although would it be hard to scout for a voice impressionist for his Joker style?

#15 Edited by fwylo (3556 posts) -

If they ever kill the Joker in a Batman game I will be fucking pissed.  Even if they just lock him up forever that would be better than killing him. 
 
And he probably doesn't want to do it because Sequels constantly are let-downs in video games.  Like the saying goes. "Quit while you're ahead." 
 
Edit: And yes obviously there are good sequels out there I know this.

#16 Posted by Nock (226 posts) -

This just in the Joker will not be in Arkham Asylum 3, more on the late break news at 11. 
 
On aside note, I just want AA2 before even worrying about 3. In my opinion I think it was kinda lazy going with Joker again, kinda hope the game starts with Joker getting taken down right away. I want new bad guys, Joker is awesome but I don't think it will be as good story wise if he's calling the shots the entire time again. 

#17 Posted by Homeslice (571 posts) -

I hope the second game will have something to do with simulations, Arsenal Joker, George Washington, Patriots, and Robin's sister, Emma.

#18 Posted by ParaParaKing (105 posts) -

I would totally be happy with no Joker in Arkham Asylum 3. Having him in all the games would be borinmg.

#19 Posted by WilliamHenry (1219 posts) -
@fwylo said:
" If they ever kill the Joker in a Batman game I will be fucking pissed.  Even if they just lock him up forever that would be better than killing him. 
 
And he probably doesn't want to do it because Sequels constantly are let-downs in video games.  Like the saying goes. "Quit while you're ahead."  Edit: And yes obviously there are good sequels out there I know this. "
I'd say video games have the highest ratio of good to bad sequels than any other medium.
#20 Posted by PhilESkyline (784 posts) -
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 It's all part of the plan...
#21 Posted by theredcoat24 (218 posts) -

I think a cameo would be enoguh, I don't want them overusing the Joker, I would like a Batman Begins type sencerio complete with the main villan being 

#22 Posted by Seanakin66 (158 posts) -

Don't fuck with a Jedi Master, son.

#23 Posted by sixpin (1309 posts) -

I hope they won't over-use Joker in the series, but I'd hate to see Hamill never touch the VO for Joker again. His version is my favorite.

#24 Posted by GunnBjorn (2911 posts) -

 
I recall he already said he'd quit after the first game...
Guess he was surprised by the success of B: AA thus wanting to reprise his role in the sequell. 
But yeah, a third one would indeed be a little too much.
Give the Joker some time to premeditate a few more criminal activities...
   

#25 Posted by Axdemon (66 posts) -

By now, I've come to accept that Hamill won't always be The Joker. However, any time they get Kevin Conroy to come back for Batman, it would be sacrilege to not get Hamill back for Joker. Same coin situation.

#26 Posted by thealexray (66 posts) -

First the dude who played the joker in the current generation of films gets real life iced and now this

#27 Posted by Daveyo520 (7003 posts) -

When I think of the Joker i think Mark Hamill. He is by far the best. Way better then that dead guy.
#28 Posted by Solh0und (1850 posts) -
@PhilESkyline said:
"
           It's all part of the plan... "
Lol exactly
#29 Posted by Crono (2707 posts) -

Maybe before this statement the Joker was going to live on, but I think if Mark pulls out, the Joker will disappear from the AA series - kind of like they are retconning it before it was ever finished... if anyone follows what I am saying lol

#30 Posted by fwylo (3556 posts) -
@DivineCC said:
" @fwylo said:
" If they ever kill the Joker in a Batman game I will be fucking pissed.  Even if they just lock him up forever that would be better than killing him. 
 
And he probably doesn't want to do it because Sequels constantly are let-downs in video games.  Like the saying goes. "Quit while you're ahead."  Edit: And yes obviously there are good sequels out there I know this. "
I'd say video games have the highest ratio of good to bad sequels than any other medium. "
Sorry I should have said 2nd sequels.  I've found that the 3rd installments of games are constantly bad.  But there are some bad cases of first sequels as well.  KOTOR comes to mind.
#31 Posted by RandomInternetUser (6789 posts) -

DUDE MR. FREEZE!  YES.  Anyways, it sucks Mark Hamil won't be the Joker anymore, he's by far the best Joker of all time.

#32 Posted by Olimar_91 (34 posts) -
@fwylo said:
" @DivineCC said:
" @fwylo said:
" If they ever kill the Joker in a Batman game I will be fucking pissed.  Even if they just lock him up forever that would be better than killing him. 
 
And he probably doesn't want to do it because Sequels constantly are let-downs in video games.  Like the saying goes. "Quit while you're ahead."  Edit: And yes obviously there are good sequels out there I know this. "
I'd say video games have the highest ratio of good to bad sequels than any other medium. "
Sorry I should have said 2nd sequels.  I've found that the 3rd installments of games are constantly bad.  But there are some bad cases of first sequels as well.  KOTOR comes to mind. "
Seriously? What about Super Mario Bros. 3? Or The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past? Third installments don't have any lower a success rate than sequels or even new IP's.
#33 Posted by Damian (1538 posts) -

I think dude's just saying this every time to get a bigger check with each sequel/reprisal. That said, I doubt they'll be bringing him along for a third game for that reason among the more obvious one, being that it's dumb to have a super-hero fight the same villain even in two games, let alone three.

#34 Posted by AllanIceman (1323 posts) -
@Swaboo said:
" Hamill is the best Joker voice evah. "
#35 Posted by Dallas_Raines (2221 posts) -

This is exactly what he said about the first game.

#36 Posted by alexl86 (635 posts) -

Didn't he say more or less the same thing when I was getting involved with the first game?

#37 Posted by CornBREDX (6039 posts) -

I believe, honestly, at this point in his career; with all the bad movies and parts that he has played, all he wants is to do is make the fans happy with his work. I believe he is afraid of failure as well. So many games have the potential to ruin something for the fans, and I dont think he wants any part of that. I suspect if they wooed him by telling him the plot then either its truly the last we'll see of Joker in this series or he is just trying to not make any promises he doesnt want to uphold for the future.  
 
Its dangerous to promise you'll do something in the entertainment industry when you can never be sure its going to be a good thing, and as many character voices in games that hes done I think he knows that and he wont be swayed by how the game does now but rather the quality of what is presented to him. I suspect at this point he sees no need for the character anymore (which I would agree) in the series so he really doesnt have an interest in continuing it further. 
 
Just my guess based on interviews and such with him before. He may just be sick of playing the Joker at this point and wants to move on. I really dont know but those are my guesses.
#38 Posted by needforswede (492 posts) -

The first Arkham Asylum is enough to keep me entertained for years.  That game's so good it's almost like giving it a sequel would be spoiling all of us.  If there is an Arkham Asylum 3 in the future, the loss of Hamill doesn't have to be a bad thing.  Sure, he's Batman's most notorious foe, arch-nemesis, whatever (and Hamill's voice work is essential for the character), but there's plenty of other villains that can be just as menacing.  Yet, as I say that, I can't think of one character that would be a good main villain, it would have to be someone very clever and not just very strong.  Scarecrow could probably take over...but shit I just need to stop speculating right now.

#39 Posted by ITSSEXYTIME (236 posts) -
@Olimar_91:

Nintendo is really the exception in this industry, they've been continuing the same franchises for decades now.



#40 Posted by CL60 (16906 posts) -

Yeah..as others have said. He said this same thing about the first game.

#41 Posted by Korne (625 posts) -

Sounds like Hamill is just tired of doing batman stuff. 

#42 Posted by elko84 (1115 posts) -

Simple, the Joker gets caught and locked up.  End of that.  I don't see him dying or anything, Batman doesn't kill.

#43 Posted by s10129107 (1213 posts) -

the man wants to retire the joker

#44 Posted by Jazz (2322 posts) -
@Daveyo520 said:
" When I think of the Joker i think Mark Hamill. He is by far the best. Way better then that dead guy. "
oh god yes
#45 Posted by Vao (329 posts) -

Just me but who really wants to be thinking about AA3 already, does it really seem like a series that we need to see every year, or even two?  I did love him as the joker in the first game, +

#46 Posted by hbi2k (17 posts) -

As long as they don't try to recast the Joker I'm fine with this.  Batman has arguably the largest stable of awesome villains of any super hero ever, and cool as the Joker is, he doesn't need to be in EVERY game/movie/whatever.
 
But for the love of God DON'T shoehorn Joker into AA3 and then try to get some other fool trying to do a Mark Hamill impression.  No Hamill, no Joker.  Simple as that.
 
All seems a tad premature until AA2 is out in any case.

#47 Posted by jakob187 (21762 posts) -
#48 Posted by Milkman (17326 posts) -

It sounds like Mark Hamill takes the Joker role very seriously. You gotta respect that.

#49 Posted by Mr_JPeps (167 posts) -

He said the same thing on GTTV for the first Batman: AA too. Its too bad, his Joker voice is, in my eyes, the best Joker voice there is. Hopefully this one makes an ass load of cash too, and is as well loved as the last one, hopefully he will just keep coming back. Besides he's too fat and old to play Luke again, mans gota work right?

#50 Posted by MeatSim (10940 posts) -

If Mark Hamil isn't there to voice the Joker the character straight up shouldn't in the 3rd Arkham Asylum if there is one.

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