Don't know where I heard this but I thought Batman didn't kill people. This was reinforced after playing though Batman Arkham Asylum without him mortally wounding anyone. But I just finished watching the Michael Keaton Batman from 1989, and dude, he kills like a dozen people in that movie. He explodes a building filled with henchmen, he throws a guy off a tall belltower, and he even straight up shoots people with bullets. I don't know if that one isn't considered canon, or if he only recently began more of a pacifist, so I would appreciate it if someone could explain it to me.
Batman
Character » appears in 94 games
After witnessing the cold-blooded murder of his parents, young Bruce Wayne swore to combat the evil that took their lives. Using his family's fortune, he travelled the world, training to physical and mental perfection. Once his training was complete, he returned to Gotham City as the Dark Knight, Batman.
Batman doesn't kill people?
To be honest, I'm not sure where that came from either. It's weird how you can fling a sharp batarang into a guy's face but not kill him.
Movies don't always follow source material. Scratch that, most of the time, they don't. I'm not much of a comic book guy though, so I couldn't tell you if he never killed people in the comics.
The 1989 Batman film is basically completely defiant of the source material. Don't take anything away from that film as Batman fact.
Tim Burton fucked up the lore, that's why. Sure, Batman killed people, but only by accident or desperation.
"Don't know where I heard this but I thought Batman didn't kill people. This was reinforced after playing though Batman Arkham Asylum without him mortally wounding anyone. But I just finished watching the Michael Keaton Batman from 1989, and dude, he kills like a dozen people in that movie. He explodes a building filled with henchmen, he throws a guy off a tall belltower, and he even straight up shoots people with bullets. I don't know if that one isn't considered canon, or if he only recently began more of a pacifist, so I would appreciate it if someone could explain it to me. "
Tim Burton couldn't have cared less about the 'Batman don't kill people' rule that existed in the comics for decades. While the early 40s comics had Batman smoking fools (he had a handgun at one point), it was generally considered 'Yo, if he kills dudes then he's just as bad as said dudes, just like the dude who killed his parents'. Burton didn't give a toss (I'm pretty sure Batman attached a freaking explosive device to a dude in Batman Returns) and Nolan was the only one who really explained why the rule was in place in Batman Begins. But yeah, as a general canon rule, Batman don't kill. He'll cave in your ribcage with his boot instead.
It also completely depends on the representation of Batman. Being a comic book character he's had almost as many different depictions as there have been writers. Generally speaking however he attempts to not kill anyone. It's that fine line he walks to try and stay one of the "good guys."
Batman killed people in the first several comics. I think he even killed people with guns a few times. It wasn't long before they adopted the "batman doesn't kill" guideline, though.
" Superman doesn't kill people. I don't know about Batman, but killing people would be against what he stands for. He's a detective, not a brawler. "Superman actually does kill people. He'll do his best to avoid it, but he has killed in the past. For example, the three Phantom Zone Kryptonian criminals.
Batman doesn't kill, ever.
" @Willy105 said:Comic book have so many different canons and storylines and universes that things that are normal in one storyline could be absurd in another." Superman doesn't kill people. I don't know about Batman, but killing people would be against what he stands for. He's a detective, not a brawler. "Superman actually does kill people. He'll do his best to avoid it, but he has killed in the past. For example, the three Phantom Zone Kryptonian criminals. Batman doesn't kill, ever. "
" @Willy105 said:He'll kill. But only in desperate situations. He doesn't go into a fight saying 'I'm going to kill these dudes'. Or at least, I'd like to imagine such." Superman doesn't kill people. I don't know about Batman, but killing people would be against what he stands for. He's a detective, not a brawler. "Superman actually does kill people. He'll do his best to avoid it, but he has killed in the past. For example, the three Phantom Zone Kryptonian criminals. Batman doesn't kill, ever. "
Otherwise, he's a really shitty killer.
The Batman of Arkham Asylum is Alan Moore's Dark Knight and he definitely enjoys hurting people but does his not to kill them. It's important to know that Alan Moore (and Dave Gibbons) totally changed the nature of DC comics (some would say comics in general) when they revitalised The Swamp Thing as a gentle, misunderstood silent hero. From there they got the nod to take Batman from the action schlock it had been prior to a more deeper, darker journey into Bruce Wayne's psyche and how his issues were dealt with in constant combat with really utterly fucked up people like The Joker (who is literally psychotic in The Dark Knight and Arkham Asylum comics) and Two Face (who is just mean and really dangerously angry). Tim Burton '89 Batman is a result of too many drugs.
First off that is Jason Todd.
2nd to clear things up that batman was created for earth 2. Earth 2 is the "Batman who Killed with a gun" that is what the movie was made from. PureRok's picture is Jason todd, A robin that was beaten to death by a crowbar and then blown up inside a building, he has come back to life many times.
One of the idiosyncratically of Batman is his utter refusal to kill someone unless there is no other option.
The guy has a portfolio on every metabeing in the DC universe with a section specifically about how to incapacitate/kill said person if push comes to shove.
One of my fave examples of this is in The Dark Knight returns when the re imergence of the true Joker forces them to fight and Batman breaks his neck. He could've given it a little more pressure and kill him off, but he backs down realizing that's who he never was and that's what he never wants to be.
Of course, Joker uses whatever last gasp of strength he had to turn himself enough to kill himself. Thereby implicating Batman as a murderer.
Of course Frank Miller shat all over that in the Dark Knights Strikes Again (I fucking hate that comic)
A lot of people aren't all too aware of the Punisher, the most notoriously unreppentant mass murdering "hero", would immediatly turn himself in if an innocent was caught in the line of fire (Which doesn't happed seeing that our boy Frank plans his shit out well) Also, locking Punisher up in a prison full of scum is never the best idea. Casualties abound.
Not to say Batman isn't a sadistic psycho. One of my fave exchanges (Sorry to go back to DKR) is when he kicks some thug in the pelvic none or something and the cop screams out "You've crippled the man!" which he just responds with "He's young. He'll walk again. But you'll stay scared, won't you punk!?"
But yeah, the infamous "Bat-gun" hasn't been seen since the serials of the 30's or whatever.
No, Batman doesn't kill people. At least the version of Batman I've been shown and learned to like doesn't.
Batman doesn't kill people; Russian Martian Batman kills people.
http://www.batmanbatmanbatman.com/
Also: WTF is with all the thread necromancers up in this bitch lately? Or are the dead rising of their own accord?
"Canon" Batman doesn't kill people cus ninja code or some bullshit. Keaton's the best Batman cus he does kill, and it feels right for that character to kill. The best Batman adaptations come from people who don't give a shit about comics largely* written by people not talented enough to make it anywhere else. And Im sure Nolan "read" the Mark Millar stuff, and by reading I mean he looked at the covers and then did his own thing (which was later copied in some awful comics, completing the circle).
*Note I didn't say all. Niel Gaiman and a handful of others have talent. And that's fine. But they're not writing most comics.
Batman doesn't kill, but he allows costumed wimmenz to hump him to death.
See Catwoman #1.
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/09/21/spoiling-the-ending-of-catwoman-1/
Its in the videogame because they want to sell it to younger audiences - not killing. However, this was introduced in the cartoons about 15 or so years ago (maybe 20). The idea Batman was above killing. They essentially perfected this idea in The Dark Knight. However, in reality Batman would kill people in real life or die. He is not invincible nor perfect, hes just smarter and richer then most people (ie villians, citizens).
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