Beta is over

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#1 Posted by JoWill1986 (30 posts) -

Sadness.

I guess I just gotta wait the two weeks til the game comes out.

#2 Posted by easthill (351 posts) -

And I finally got the hang of jets an hour before the beta closed. Helicopters too. 2 weeks is a long time now.

#3 Posted by Funkydupe (3321 posts) -

Did you have fun?

#4 Posted by thornie_delete (436 posts) -

I'm kind of bummed our stats and unlocks won't carry over, but I guess it's only fair considering the amount of people who prestiged already. I'm going to miss that C4 unlock for support which took me forever to get.

#5 Posted by JoWill1986 (30 posts) -

@Funkydupe: If I could get into to a decent squad, and play with teammates who knew what they were doing, it was a very enjoyable experience.

#6 Posted by JoWill1986 (30 posts) -

@thornie: I know. It sucks so bad that we have unlock all that stuff over again.

#7 Posted by TimesHero (694 posts) -

I played it both on 360 and the PC. I must admit, I had more fun with the 360. Playing with a keyboard has never been fun for me as games became more and more realistic (game play wise, eg. prone) The keyboard just doesn't make sense any more.

#8 Posted by zaglis (910 posts) -

@TimesHero said:

I played it both on 360 and the PC. I must admit, I had more fun with the 360. Playing with a keyboard has never been fun for me as games became more and more realistic (game play wise, eg. prone) The keyboard just doesn't make sense any more.

Hahaha.

Wait, what?

#9 Posted by RiotBananas (3600 posts) -

I enjoyed the 10 minutes I played before my PC decided it was too much for it. @TimesHero: Kind of agree with you in the sense that I too struggle enjoying using a keyboard for anything over than movement. I often find myself fumbling for the prone button, any time I have to take my eyes off the screen to look for a button on my keyboard is time lost and maybe a life lost.

#10 Posted by JacDG (2127 posts) -

Kind of sucks, began to actually like it, still think you die too fast though.

#11 Posted by Jack268 (3387 posts) -

And I'm fucking aching to fly more jets. Time for BF2.

#12 Posted by TimesHero (694 posts) -

@zaglis: Mouse > Controller > Keyboard.

The mouse is great, but having to use a keyboard sucks.

∴ I would rather use a controller.

#13 Edited by MikkaQ (10294 posts) -

@TimesHero said:

@zaglis: Mouse > Controller > Keyboard.

The mouse is great, but having to use a keyboard sucks.

∴ I would rather use a controller.

I'd say it depends on the game. BF3 for me has so much going on with changing firing modes, minimap sizes, crouching, going prone, that I need the keyboard buttons. Plus it's a shooter and those are better on a mouse. If this was a simpler 3rd person shooter I might agree with you.

Anyway beta's over. Kinda on the fence now. I know they'll improve the game, but the damage has been done. I'm just kinda soured on the whole BF3 experience. Also that web-based server browser is atrocious, so until they fix the game and give it an in-game server browser, my interest is severely diminished. 90% of my problems with the beta came out of the battlelog.

#14 Posted by awe_stuck (800 posts) -

@Funkydupe said:

Did you have fun?

Yes.

@thornie said:

I'm kind of bummed our stats and unlocks won't carry over, but I guess it's only fair considering the amount of people who prestiged already. I'm going to miss that C4 unlock for support which took me forever to get.

With vehicles, unlocks are different. Stats would not be realistic. I do agree though.

#15 Posted by themangalist (1737 posts) -

Sold me on pre-ordering.

#16 Posted by nick152 (7 posts) -

Definitely getting it, BF3 > MW3

#17 Posted by AhmadMetallic (18955 posts) -
@easthill said:

And I finally got the hang of jets an hour before the beta closed. Helicopters too. 

What did you think?
#18 Posted by TIEfighter77 (80 posts) -

@TimesHero said:

I played it both on 360 and the PC. I must admit, I had more fun with the 360. Playing with a keyboard has never been fun for me as games became more and more realistic (game play wise, eg. prone) The keyboard just doesn't make sense any more.

Weird. I switched over to mouse/keyboard because analog sticks swing too much for me on controller. I have been playing FPS games much better since. But I still play third person with controller on consoles. I loved the beta (minus bugs) and hate having to wait 2 weeks.

Oh well, it gives me time to finish Deus Ex.

#19 Edited by Wacomole (820 posts) -

One good thing about the beta ending... loads of people suddenly playing Bad Company 2.

#20 Edited by Extreme_Popcorn (842 posts) -

Come home from work and all I want to play is Battlefield but I can't so I played Rage and go fucked over by it's stupid ass save system. Fuck that game!

I never got what the fascination with the jets was, I go to fly around in one for like 5 minutes, didn't see anything to shoot then crashed. I'd much rather be on the ground or in a tank.

#21 Posted by emem (1968 posts) -

Well, I really enjoyed the 2 maps we've been allowed to play on the PC and I think they are both great. Before playing the beta I wasn't sure about getting the game on day one, now I am. I'm going to wait until we know about the Steam situation before pre-ordering though.. I'd definitely prefer having it on Steam.

#22 Posted by PillClinton (3291 posts) -

I enjoyed the beta quite a bit, and just want to play more. I wasn't really planning on buying it before, but I guess the beta sold me on it.

#23 Posted by scarace360 (4828 posts) -

i hated metro but i loved Caspian it was really fun and the bombing run was great.

#24 Posted by Hameyadea (348 posts) -

I just hope that those god-awful Deadly Premonition-like glitches of players "forming" from the ground and then traveling at ultra-speeds, won't remain in the final product.

#25 Edited by Zapbrader (174 posts) -

I honestly feel ashamed I only logged 3 hours and 45 minutes in the whole two week time period it was out. The Beta got me to put in my pre-order though.

#26 Posted by Hitchenson (4682 posts) -

I was getting the game anyway. Thought Metro was kind of bollocks, but I play BF for the large scale vehicle/infantry combat and not to play CoD. I'm playing BF to avoid CoD. But Caspian? That is some straight up amazing BF. Holy shit, it's so good. I actually managed to get a jet a fair few times and didn't hang around waiting for it either, they're fun as hell to fly. Red Orchestra 2 will tide my online cravings over until this launches at least (and after because RO2 is so damn sick).

#27 Posted by NoCookiesForYou (761 posts) -

Really liked the beta aswell. I actually came to appreciate the whole server browser thing. All they need to do now is to fix those bugs.

Can't wait to play the finished product.

#28 Posted by chilibean_3 (1644 posts) -

@Verb4tim: I'm really surprised that I ended up enjoying the browser experience. I took the time to actually play with what you can do and all the stats and info you can get into and ended up really liking what was going on there. I think it's going to end up really neat. Logging into Origin seems pretty pointless but it's not a big deal.

#29 Posted by easthill (351 posts) -

@XII_Sniper said:

Anyway beta's over. Kinda on the fence now. I know they'll improve the game, but the damage has been done. I'm just kinda soured on the whole BF3 experience. Also that web-based server browser is atrocious, so until they fix the game and give it an in-game server browser, my interest is severely diminished. 90% of my problems with the beta came out of the battlelog.

I've yet to see a single good reason for the battlelog hate. Can I ask why it's atrocious?

@AhmadMetallic said:

@easthill said:

And I finally got the hang of jets an hour before the beta closed. Helicopters too.

What did you think?

Loved it. Didn't feel like BF2, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. Couldn't bind any keys to my old Logitech Extreme 3D Pro™, but that's most likely a beta issue. Didn't get too many unlocks yet, so haven't tried A2A and A2G missiles or anything like that, but the cannon work wonders against enemy jets and helos. You feel very much more vulnerable in the air than you did in BF2, but that's good as the only danger a jet faced in BF2 was another jet... But it's a bit weird having to unlock flares...

I was originally a bit sour on the helicopters, but after a few rounds I've grown to like 'em. Haven't really gotten any unlocks with them, but they seem much more geared toward a hit and run tactic since they're so easy to shoot down. I do, however, want to be able to a barrel roll and some acrobatic shit - not as much as in BF2, but just something. Feels way to rigid and 'assisted' now.

But the jet's cannon flipping helicopters? That is bullshit.

#30 Posted by Clonedzero (4200 posts) -

DICE was such dicks about it too lol.

"here's a map you're only mildly interested in. its decent, but doesnt play to battlefields strengths....oh you're losing interest and excitement? well here's an awesome huge conquest map for 2-3 days now buy our game!"

now i gotta buy their damn game

#31 Edited by MikkaQ (10294 posts) -

@easthill: Yeah, the interface is slow because it's web, games are difficult to get into, quitting the game, refreshing the page, loading up the executable and map every time I want to switch servers is amazingly slow and inconvenient, and for someone like me that might try 10-15 servers before finding one I like, it's a disaster.

Also the interface itself... not really well put together. Took me a while to find the filter options, and they were layed out awkwardly. Couple all that with the fact that I can't even change game setting until I'm IN a match, and you've got a recipe for constant frustration.

Plus a web-browser game interface? Maybe it's just me, but when I see those I temper my expectations, like it should be a free to play game like quake live or something. I don't really like the idea of paying for a game that exists only in a webbrowser. Too "cloudy" for me.

#32 Posted by Mesklinite (805 posts) -

@Funkydupe said:

Did you have fun?

The game is amazing! I can't wait! The hit detection is so much better then previous BF's. With all the stuff they mentioned would be fixed in release, no flashlights during the day, working squad selection, private squads, terrain deformation, etc... it will be epic!

#33 Posted by Evilsbane (4622 posts) -

:( Damn they let everyone play Caspain border at the end? BAAHHH

#34 Posted by Jethuty (1023 posts) -

@JacDG said:

Kind of sucks, began to actually like it, still think you die too fast though.

i agree.

I mean, my internet is stellar, but sometimes i would die instantly, and i would have to pump almost an entire magazine into an enemy(hitmarkers and all) before he would go down.

Shoddy netcode perhaps?

#35 Posted by mosdl (3229 posts) -

@chilibean_3 said:

@Verb4tim: I'm really surprised that I ended up enjoying the browser experience. I took the time to actually play with what you can do and all the stats and info you can get into and ended up really liking what was going on there. I think it's going to end up really neat. Logging into Origin seems pretty pointless but it's not a big deal.

My hope is that Origin helps Dice make patches faster, since they now have a easy way to update all the clients in one place.

#36 Edited by thornie_delete (436 posts) -

@easthill said:

@XII_Sniper said:

Anyway beta's over. Kinda on the fence now. I know they'll improve the game, but the damage has been done. I'm just kinda soured on the whole BF3 experience. Also that web-based server browser is atrocious, so until they fix the game and give it an in-game server browser, my interest is severely diminished. 90% of my problems with the beta came out of the battlelog.

I've yet to see a single good reason for the battlelog hate. Can I ask why it's atrocious?

Agreed. Battlelog was one of my favorite things about the beta... /hides. According to my stats I logged 5 or 6th most time with the game amongst all of the users in the GBSQ and I never had ONE single issue or problem with battlelog. My games loaded super fast, it was elegant and super easy to use. I also loved alt+entering in and out of full screen while waiting for the maps to load.

#37 Edited by easthill (351 posts) -

@XII_Sniper said:

Yeah, the interface is slow because it's web, games are difficult to get into, quitting the game, refreshing the page, loading up the executable and map every time I want to switch servers is amazingly slow and inconvenient, and for someone like me that might try 10-15 servers before finding one I like, it's a disaster.

In my experience it's lighting fast, because it's web. I'm usually in a game within 30 seconds of logging in to battlelog. That's faster than any other DICE browser I've tried. Frankly I think this is the best browser DICE has made, but that's not really saying much... DICE is also able to update the browser and make changes without the need to send out a patch, which could be a huge deal.

Couple all that with the fact that I can't even change game setting until I'm IN a match, and you've got a recipe for constant frustration.

This I can agree with, but at least in the retail version you don't have to spawn before changing settings. That's something, I guess...

Plus a web-browser game interface? Maybe it's just me, but when I see those I temper my expectations, like it should be a free to play game like quake live or something. I don't really like the idea of paying for a game that exists only in a webbrowser. Too "cloudy" for me.

I see how you feel, and I sorta agree. However, I think the pros outweigh the cons. Besides, in what other game can you 'Hooah!' someone?

#38 Posted by easthill (351 posts) -

@Jethuty said:

@JacDG said:

Kind of sucks, began to actually like it, still think you die too fast though.

i agree.

I mean, my internet is stellar, but sometimes i would die instantly, and i would have to pump almost an entire magazine into an enemy(hitmarkers and all) before he would go down.

Shoddy netcode perhaps?

There was a bug causing bullets do to more damage than intended against moving targets.

#39 Posted by Jethuty (1023 posts) -

@easthill said:

@Jethuty said:

@JacDG said:

Kind of sucks, began to actually like it, still think you die too fast though.

i agree.

I mean, my internet is stellar, but sometimes i would die instantly, and i would have to pump almost an entire magazine into an enemy(hitmarkers and all) before he would go down.

Shoddy netcode perhaps?

There was a bug causing bullets do to more damage than intended against moving targets.

yeah, i saw they fixed it and i was aware of it, but did they didnt patch it in the beta right?

#40 Posted by easthill (351 posts) -

@Jethuty: Nope, only in the retail version.

#41 Posted by Three0neFive (2294 posts) -

That's a bummer, I just found out the Caspian servers were unlocked last night. :/

#42 Posted by Jethuty (1023 posts) -

@easthill said:

@Jethuty: Nope, only in the retail version.

kay, figured as much.

What really bugged me was the way the jets was designed. Because of the countermeasures being unlocks, that means that anyone not playing Jets and getting the unlocks will be at such a disadvantage that its going to be near impossible to get them at all. You have no way to counter the missiles from either the other jets chasing you, or from the ground with the stingers.

imo the flares should be standard.

#43 Posted by mosdl (3229 posts) -

@Jethuty: the beta was so old it wasn't worth their time to patch it.

#44 Posted by Akrid (1356 posts) -

They unlocked Caspian?! Damnit, I missed it.

#45 Posted by ds8k (413 posts) -

@RiotBananas said:

I enjoyed the 10 minutes I played before my PC decided it was too much for it. @TimesHero: Kind of agree with you in the sense that I too struggle enjoying using a keyboard for anything over than movement. I often find myself fumbling for the prone button, any time I have to take my eyes off the screen to look for a button on my keyboard is time lost and maybe a life lost.

If you don't know the keys on your keyboard you probably shouldn't be playing PC games. It's no different than memorizing the buttons on your controller.

#46 Posted by easthill (351 posts) -

@Jethuty said:

@easthill said:

@Jethuty: Nope, only in the retail version.

kay, figured as much.

What really bugged me was the way the jets was designed. Because of the countermeasures being unlocks, that means that anyone not playing Jets and getting the unlocks will be at such a disadvantage that its going to be near impossible to get them at all. You have no way to counter the missiles from either the other jets chasing you, or from the ground with the stingers.

imo the flares should be standard.

I only needed two rounds before I unlocked flares. By having the flares as unlocks it forces players to actually learn the planes instead of heading straight to the enemy airfield and dropping bombs. Hopefully this will lead to less people camping the airfield and crashing their plane ten seconds after takeoff. It's also much easier to shake someone since you don't have access to all the camera angles you did in BF2.

I have yet to get shot down by a stinger, since the fighters are so weak against ground targets, you really have no business getting within lock on range. And you survive one hit. As soon as you hear the beep it's time to get the hell out of dodge.

#47 Posted by Agent47 (1898 posts) -

@zaglis said:

@TimesHero said:

I played it both on 360 and the PC. I must admit, I had more fun with the 360. Playing with a keyboard has never been fun for me as games became more and more realistic (game play wise, eg. prone) The keyboard just doesn't make sense any more.

Hahaha.

Wait, what?

I dunno sometimes I prefer the PC for the graphics boost and mouse precision but I go back to the 360/PS3 alot because the controller feels better.It feels more fun I'd say, the squeezing of triggers acts like pressing one on a gun and the vibration from explosions and gun shots feels satisfying even after all these years.Though if you've never played a console I understand.

#48 Posted by ericdrum (405 posts) -

@XII_Sniper: I actually prefer the web UI now, especially for the party aspect that persists even between reboots. The BC2 in game server refresh and sorting was slower than the BF3 browser version. And really, once the game comes out and you've played a bit, you should have a DEEP favorite servers list and constantly browsing for new servers should be non existent.

#49 Posted by AhmadMetallic (18955 posts) -
@easthill said:

@AhmadMetallic said:

@easthill said:

And I finally got the hang of jets an hour before the beta closed. Helicopters too.

What did you think?

Loved it. Didn't feel like BF2, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. Couldn't bind any keys to my old Logitech Extreme 3D Pro™, but that's most likely a beta issue. Didn't get too many unlocks yet, so haven't tried A2A and A2G missiles or anything like that, but the cannon work wonders against enemy jets and helos. You feel very much more vulnerable in the air than you did in BF2, but that's good as the only danger a jet faced in BF2 was another jet... But it's a bit weird having to unlock flares...

Don't you think they're a little too vulnerable? stingers locking on you as fast as they do on UAV's in Modern Warfare? your plane crashing and burning under 50% health?  
 

I was originally a bit sour on the helicopters, but after a few rounds I've grown to like 'em. Haven't really gotten any unlocks with them, but they seem much more geared toward a hit and run tactic since they're so easy to shoot down. I do, however, want to be able to a barrel roll and some acrobatic shit - not as much as in BF2, but just something. Feels way to rigid and 'assisted' now.

But the jet's cannon flipping helicopters? That is bullshit.

Yep, auto stabilization really killed any chance helis have to be agile and maneuverable.. They feel like they're tied to the ground with strings. 
What cannon flipping? 
#50 Posted by zaglis (910 posts) -

@Agent47 said:

@zaglis said:

@TimesHero said:

I played it both on 360 and the PC. I must admit, I had more fun with the 360. Playing with a keyboard has never been fun for me as games became more and more realistic (game play wise, eg. prone) The keyboard just doesn't make sense any more.

Hahaha.

Wait, what?

I dunno sometimes I prefer the PC for the graphics boost and mouse precision but I go back to the 360/PS3 alot because the controller feels better.It feels more fun I'd say, the squeezing of triggers acts like pressing one on a gun and the vibration from explosions and gun shots feels satisfying even after all these years.Though if you've never played a console I understand.

Oh no. I have played a lot of Xbox 360 shooters. Never enjoyed fully it. The slow, input lagged and imprecise controls ruins everything for me, the squeez or vibrations dont add anything.

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