in my opinion, Steam is much better at customer service than EA is, so I find myself thinking that this must have to do with EA just wanting more money rather than being about giving customers a better experience. With Steam, you make an account, and buy stuff. it's simple. admittedly, the auto-updater is sometimes a pain, if you're like me and like to install mods for games, but it's not a huge problem. EA shoves its social networking nonsense down your throat (see: pre-ordering Old Republic). also, having owned more than one 360, I can say that the way mass effect 2 dlc works is really fucking stupid.
Battlefield 3
Game » consists of 15 releases. Released Oct 25, 2011
Battlefield 3 is DICE's third numerical installment in the Battlefield franchise. It features a single player and co-operative campaign, as well as an extensive multiplayer component.
EA Explains Why Battlefield 3 Might Not Appear on Steam
Does this mean that when PopCap through EA releases a new semi-DLC type game, that game is also pulled?
This argument doesn't really apply, because if both the game and DLC are on Steam and no where else then why shouldn't Valve get a cut for having it sell on their service? Sure if you bought the game from another service and could use it in conjunction with Steam and Valve demanded a cut of the profits from that then, yes.@Gnorbooth said:
EA has every right to sell their games and DLC and get 100% of the profits. But if that's the case, then don't use someone else's service to promote and sell your games. Because if said service has now helped you in any way with promotion, sales, downloads, hosting, etc, then they are entitled to a cut.
I don't understand why Valve is entitled to a cut. Let's go back to the days of disc-based games and expansion packs. I buy The Sims at Best Buy. I love it. I play the game every day. I then find out that The Sims: Livin' Large came out this week. I'm nowhere near a Best Buy, but Walmart is just up the road. I purchase it there and install it and have a blast all over again.
Why does Best Buy deserve a cut?
Why should Valve get a cut?
@gesi1223 said:
@Infininja said:This argument doesn't really apply, because if both the game and DLC are on Steam and no where else then why shouldn't Valve get a cut for having it sell on their service? Sure if you bought the game from another service and could use it in conjunction with Steam and Valve demanded a cut of the profits from that then, yes. Why should Valve get a cut?@Gnorbooth said:
EA has every right to sell their games and DLC and get 100% of the profits. But if that's the case, then don't use someone else's service to promote and sell your games. Because if said service has now helped you in any way with promotion, sales, downloads, hosting, etc, then they are entitled to a cut.
I don't understand why Valve is entitled to a cut. Let's go back to the days of disc-based games and expansion packs. I buy The Sims at Best Buy. I love it. I play the game every day. I then find out that The Sims: Livin' Large came out this week. I'm nowhere near a Best Buy, but Walmart is just up the road. I purchase it there and install it and have a blast all over again.
Why does Best Buy deserve a cut?
That's the whole point of this discussion. The game is on Steam, but the DLC isn't. Valve is forcing the DLC to be on Steam in order to get a cut.
Wow sure alot of People riding the Preverbial balls of Steam and wishing it were a monopoly in the Digital Distribution arena *Which users have already made it into*
It's because people don't understand how bad monpolies can fuck over other buisnesses and consumers alike. When these kids grow up they'll understand how ignorant they're being.
Not sure if it's so much wishing for a monopoly as it is the fear of everyone making their own client eventually. Part of the reason Steam has done so well is that it's the de facto standard for digital distribution, like a PC version of XBLA or PSN. Making it so that people have to have a separate account and client for every publisher will almost certainly retard the PC digital distribution market.Wow sure alot of People riding the Preverbial balls of Steam and wishing it were a monopoly in the Digital Distribution arena *Which users have already made it into*
Which suits me fine as I prefer physical, but that's me. :)
@WilliamRLBaker: It's because people don't understand how bad monpolies can fuck over other buisnesses and consumers alike. When these kids grow up they'll understand how ignorant they're being.All though I fully appreciate all this "DUR HUR MONOPOLIES BAD" discussion, the fact of the matter is that the argument of Steam becoming a monopoly is moot; why? Because Steam is fucking awesome.
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